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Bev
January 13th, 2013, 04:27 PM
In summation: all the propaganda that came out of Belsen was controlled by Jews within the British Army and the Ministry of Information.

The details have been given in the posts above.

That'll be his degree in political science, then.

Henry.
January 13th, 2013, 05:03 PM
That'll be his degree in political science, then.
Because of Bernstein's films which were shown to the British in his own family's cinemas, and in the other cinemas that he and Beddington (Cohen) co-opted for the purpose of propaganda, there are still many people alive who will tell that as kids they saw what the Nazi's had done in the 'gas chambers' of Belsen when in fact no such things existed.

This nonsense was strengthened by press reports from the Belsen trials in 1945.

At these trials the Belsen commandant, Joseph Kramer, was tried, found guilty and subsequently executed.

Kramer gifted the Jews the chance to legally establish the gas chamber myth in a court of law, because he'd previously been a recent commandant at Auschwitz. Therefore during the course of the Belsen trial witnesses from Auschwitz were used to great effect; especially a Russian doctor who claimed that while in Auschwitz she (IIRC the doctor was female) witnessed the murder of 10,000 Jews per day, all of whom were brought to their fate in Red Cross vans!

This blending of evidence from different locations caused the press to become so confused that the Associated Press (AP) circulated these alleged events as having taken place at Belsen (it was the Belsen trial after all) and this misinformation immediately became welded to Bernstein's films and entered the mainstream as a legal fact.

This was the great Jewish profit from Belsen.

Some info on Joseph Kramer and his trial. (http://www.bergenbelsen.co.uk/pages/Trial/Trial/TrialDefenceCase/Trial_026_Kramer.html)

Henry.
January 13th, 2013, 05:34 PM
So in summation you can take it to the bank that from the local ceasefire right up to this very day that the British Army controlled Belsen and all that went on and goes on
No one should take that ''to the bank''

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v15/v15n3p23_Weber.html
Black Market Center

From 1945 until 1950, when it was finally shut down, the British maintained Belsen as a camp for displaced European Jews. During this period it achieved new notoriety as a major European black market center. The "uncrowned king" of Belsen's 10,000 Jews was Yossl (Josef) Rosensaft, who amassed tremendous profits from the illegal trading. Rosensaft had been interned in various camps, including Auschwitz, before arriving in Belsen in early April 1945. (note 42)
British Lieutenant General Sir Frederick Morgan, chief of "displaced persons" operations in postwar Germany for the United Nations relief organization UNRRA recalled in his memoir that (note 43)
under Zionist auspices there had been organized at Belsen a vast illegitimate trading organization with worldwide ramifications and dealing in a wide range of goods, principally precious metals and stones. A money market dealt with a wide range of currencies. Goods were being imported in cryptically marked containers consigned in UNRRA shipments to Jewish voluntary agencies ...

andy
January 13th, 2013, 06:36 PM
That'll be his degree in political science, then.

Ballocks belsen was occupied and to this day (I have a relative stationed there as i write) is occupied by the British Army.By the by Hitchcock was not a jew.Finally my reply is in relation to the murder of German Nurses by British Aryan doctors under the self same command of the man who allowed a foreign national (Dietrich) to her sister and husband away without let or hindrance.A man with such powers could easily have protected the German Nurses he chose not to.

In answer to my question about whether the British liberators had killed any of the Hungarian soldiers, who were sent to the camp to help with the transition and were promised that they could return to their lines after six days, Alsen wrote the following, based on what his father Lt. Lawrence Alsen had told him:

Yes, some of them were shot out of hand for mutiny. A burial detail of Hungarians refused to handle the dead bodies. One officer refused to obey the order saying it was contrary to the Geneva Convention. The captain in charge immediately told them they were under martial law and any refusal was mutiny. The officer still refused and so did four of his men. The captain drew his revolver and cocked it, pointing it at the officer's forehead. The officer still refused and the captain shot him dead. The other four attempted to rush the captain, a somewhat foolish attempt against 8 loaded sten guns in the hands of men itching to use them. All five ended up in one of the grave pits. The officer then reported what he had done to the Colonel who told him not to worry: "You've just saved the hangman a job."

In response to my question about whether any of the SS guards had died from typhus after being forced to handle the dead bodies with their bare hands, Niall Alsen answered as follows, based on what his father Lt. Lawrence Alsen had told him:

That report is true. They were also made to live in one of the huts in the same filthy conditions as the Inmates and fed the same basic rations; that could also be the reason so many contracted Typhus. However, there are suspicions that two of the more sadistic guards were thrown into one of the huts by British troops for a lark; they were kicked and punched to death. (Death by natural causes?) My father said it was very difficult to control the men from meting out summary justice; perhaps it would have been better if that had happened.

Hows that for a cut and paste from a jew as well

Henry.
January 13th, 2013, 06:49 PM
By the by Hitchcock was not a jew.
And who said he was?....Not I.

Read again:
The Belsen film(s) referred to on this thread were commissioned by powerful Jews. Alfred Hitchcock worked for two of them (Jack Beddington and Sidney Bernstein) in the early 1940s and was brought in by them to create a film that featured the well known footage that they had shot at Belsen and elswhere.

Hitchcock's reward was freedom from his suffocating contract with David O. Selznick which was replaced by a partnership with Sidney Bernstein.

'By the by'...where's your proof that Dietrich's brother-in-law was a member of the SS?

Even your own source denies it.

Bev
January 14th, 2013, 05:52 AM
And who said he was?....Not I.

Read again:


'By the by'...where's your proof that Dietrich's brother-in-law was a member of the SS?

Even your own source denies it.

Yes, I'd like to see this proof as well. I've not been able to find anything remotely suggesting of the fact.

Bev
January 14th, 2013, 10:38 AM
I think google must be broken. I still haven't turned up the proof.....

Henry.
January 14th, 2013, 11:01 AM
I think google must be broken. I still haven't turned up the proof.....
It may have been lost in translation....

Bev
January 14th, 2013, 11:21 AM
It may have been lost in translation....

Which translation? aNDY'S or google's? :rofl

Bob 88
January 14th, 2013, 12:32 PM
Whats with recently introduced Daily Mail style thumbs up / down thingies? ;)

Bev
January 17th, 2013, 05:34 AM
Black and white images taken by the first Western photographer to enter the squalid bunker where Hitler and his wife Eva Braun killed themselves have been compiled in a LIFE.com gallery for the first time.

Many of the photos did not make the final cut for the special edition published immediately after the war in 1945, but have been flagged up now after a trawl through the magazine's archives.

Photographer William Vandivert was the first Western snapper to be granted access into the bunker carved beneath the pompous Reich Chancellery which was reduced to brickdust by Allied bombs and Russian artillery shells.

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Traces of the dictator: War correspondents examining the arm of sofa stained with blood while one of them uses a candle to search the floor for evidence of suicide in Adolf Hitler's underground shelter

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HQ: Adolf Hitler's command center conference room partially burned out by SS troops and stripped of evidence by invading Russians, in bunker under the Reichschancellery after Hitler's suicide

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Office: Burned and scattered papers on desk inside Adolf Hitler's command bunker where he and his mistress Eva Braun were said to have committed suicide

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Secret lovers: Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun kept their affair hidden for many years. but new images collated by Life magazine shed fresh light on their final moments

Hitler's Reich, which once stretched from Calais to the shores of the Volga in Russia, and from the Arctic Circle to North Africa, was reduced to a few spartan rooms in a stinking cement submarine where he and his wife killed themselves on April 30 1945.


'These pix were made in the dark with only a candle for illumination ... our small party of four beat all rest of mob who came down about forty minutes after we got there,' said Vandivert whose evocative photographs have lost none of their power to shock and awe.

One of the pictures shows war correspondents examining the sofa upon which the couple ended their days, and the spreading dark stain of the monster's blood upon the fabric after he shot himself in the mouth with his service pistol.
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Remnants: A mould-covered SS officer's cap, with the infamous death's-head skull emblem barely visible - this photo was not originally published in LIFE

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Discovery: A Russian soldier standing amid the rubble. They fought their way to the heart of Nazism, in a crusade of revenge for the 27 million deaths Hitler's forces caused in their homeland


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Abandoned furniture and debris: Photographer William Vandivert was the first Western photographer to gain access to Hitler's Führerbunker after the fall of Berlin

Another is a relic of war, a rare 16th century painting looted from Italy to adorn a wall of the bunker's study where self-appointed 'artist' Hitler issued his final commands to non-existent armies in the dying days of his rule.

On the floor of one room a badly scarred S.S. officer's cap with it's grinning death's head skull is caught in Vandivert's lens while yet another previously unpublished picture shows LIFE correspondent Percy Knauth sifting through debris in the shallow trench in the garden of the Reich Chancellery where the bodies of Hitler and his wife - he married her hours before their suicide pact - were doused with petrol and set ablaze.

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Source: Empty jerrycans of gasoline reportedly used by SS Troops to burn bodies of Adolph Hitler & Eva Braun after their suicides in his command bunker

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Examination: LIFE correspondent Percy Knauth sifting through the dirt & debris in the shallow shell hole where the bodies of Hitler and Eva Braun were thought to have been burned after their suicides, in the garden of the Reichstag. This photo was not originally published in LIFE

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Burned wreckage inside Adolf Hitler's command bunker
Unident hand touching destroyed hinge of door to Adolf Hitler's command bunker, burned off by advancing Russian combat engineers.

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After the Fall: In the garden of the Reich Chancellery, Berlin, 1945. This photo was not originally published in LIFE

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Symbolic: A crushed globe and a bust of Hitler amid rubble outside the ruined Reich Chancellery. This photo was not originally published in LIFE

Other never-before-seen images are those of the ventilation tower of the bunker, pockmarked with shrapnel from bombs and shells, a desk used by Hitler strewn with papers and the entrance to the troglodyte warren.



A particularly poignant shot are the empty jerry cans of petrol used for the Fuehrer's funeral pyre, lying abandoned in the rubble of the Chancellery garden.

Russian soldiers who fought their way street by street and building by building to the heart of Nazism, in a crusade of revenge for the 27 million deaths Hitler's forces caused in their homeland, are seen in a photo taken on the same day moving a huge bronze swastika that once loomed over the entry to Hitler's Chancellery on to a pile of rubble.

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Defiant: At the Reichstag, evidence of a practice common throughout the centuries: soldiers scrawling graffiti to honor fallen comrades, insult the vanquished or simply announce, I was here. I survived.' This photo was not originally published in LIFE


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Heavy work: Russian soldiers and a civilian struggle to move a large bronze Nazi Party eagle that once loomed over a doorway of the Reich Chancellery, Berlin, 1945. This photo was not originally published in LIFE

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It's over: A U.S. soldier, PFC Douglas Page, offers a mocking Nazi salute inside the bombed-out ruins of the Berliner Sportspalast where the Third Reich often held political rallies. This photo was not originally published in LIFE

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Bitter: A man on bicycle and young boy going past smashed vehicles and abandoned artillery which fill Oberwallstrasse street, where some of the most bitter fighting for control of Berlin took place

Other hitherto unpublished photos include a shot of an American serviceman giving the Hitler salute in the bombed out Sportspalast stadium in Berlin, from where in 1943 propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels made his infamous 'total war' speech, and inside the Reichstag, where Russian soldiers carved their names and graffiti on the walls of the parliament building.

A crushed globe of the sort Hitler used to gaze at and dream of world conquest, together with a bust of him made of bronze, are also reproduced for the first time.

At the time Vandivert, who died in 1992, reported for LIFE; 'Almost every famous building in Berlin is a shambles. In the centre of town GIs could walk for blocks and see no living thing, hear nothing but the stillness of death, smell nothing but the stench of death.'

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Death pact: Adolf Hitler with mistress Eva Braun - the pair died together in the bunker

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Downfall: The film of Hitler's life imagined how the dictator would have looked on the sofa where he finally killed himself, sat next to Eva braun

Vandivert was the first Western photographer to gain access to Hitler’s Führerbunker after the fall of Berlin, and a handful of his pictures of the bunker and the ruined city were published in LIFE magazine in July 1945.

On the LIFE website today WEDS it states; 'A few of those images are republished here; most of the pictures in this gallery, however, never appeared in LIFE. Taken together, they illuminate the surreal, disturbing universe Vandivert encountered in the bunker itself, and in the streets of the vanquished city beyond the bunker’s walls.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2263418/Pictured-Squalid-sofa-Hitler-Eva-Braun-killed-secret-bunker-spent-final-hours-revealed-time.html safe

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2263418/Pictured-Squalid-sofa-Hitler-Eva-Braun-killed-secret-bunker-spent-final-hours-revealed-time.html normal for those wishing to see the video

Mouldy. A mouldy cap.

Bev
January 17th, 2013, 05:38 AM
Neo-Nazis hacked into a computer putting carols on to CDs for Christmas - and replaced them with hate-filled Hitler Youth anthems.

Families woke up across Germany on Christmas Day to play what they thought were religious melodies - and instead got tunes including The Rotten Bones Are Trembling, the official anthem of the Nazi youth movement.

Its lyrics run: 'We will continue to march/ Even if everything shatters/ Because today Germany hears us/ And tomorrow, the whole World!'

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Distressing: Families waking up across Germany on Christmas Day were horrified to find the hate-filled Nazi songs on their new CDs, instead of the religious tunes they expected. (Pictured, Adolf Hitler addresseding the Hilter Youth)

A line in another, Germany Awake!, reads: 'We are the fighters of the NSDAP/ True Germans in heart, firm and tough in our struggle.



'To the Swastika, devoted are we/ Hail our leader, Hail Hitler to thee!'
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Corrupting influence: The songs recorded on to the CDs sent out by SOS Children's Villages charity contained lyrics such as 'let the knives slip into the Jew's body'

The NSDAP was the National Socialist German Workers Party - from its German initials, Nazi.

The most shocking tune copied on to the CDs was Blood Must Flow, which runs: 'Sharpen the long knives on the pavement/ let the knives slip into the Jew's body/ Blood must flow, a whole lot of it/ and we s*** on the freedom of this Jew Republic.'

All such songs, along with symbols of Nazism such as the swastika and the lightning flashes of the dreaded SS, have been banned in Germany since the end of the war.

Some 50,000 of the Christmas carol CDs were sent to households in Germany by the SOS Children's Villages charity.

Roger Damm, spokesman for the organisation, said it seemed that the computer which recorded them had been hacked by a neo-Nazi group.

'We have had many complaints that we were spreading Nazi hate propaganda,' he added.

An investigation has been launched into incitement to hatred by prosecutors in Munich.

The Hitler Youth was founded by Hitler in the 1920s to indoctrinate the country's young into Nazi ideals and beliefs.

When the war came in 1939, hundreds of thousands of young men had already passed through its ranks straight into the army.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2262129/Nazis-hack-CD-companys-computers-swap-Hitler-youth-anthems-Christmas-carols.html

Bev
January 17th, 2013, 05:41 AM
A copy of Adolf Hitler's infamous autobiography Mein Kampf which he signed in his bunker as the Allied armies closed in on him has emerged for sale.

The copy of the hate-filled manifesto for his political ideology is believed to be the last one the evil dictator put his name to before he committed suicide in April 1945.

He gave it to an unidentified senior member of his staff in what is said was a last defiant gesture in the hope his evil Nazi ideology would continue after his death.

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A copy of Adolf Hitler's infamous autobiography Mein Kampf which he signed in his bunker on March 5, 1945 as the Allied armies closed in has emerged for sale for £5,000


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The signature, once large and bold, had degenerated into a small almost insignificant scribble, showing how much his mental state had degenerated and he must have known his inevitable fate
MEIN KAMPF - ADOLF HITLER'S HATE-FILLED MANIFESTO

Mein Kampf, which translates as My Struggle or My Battle, combines elements of autobiography and Adolf Hitler's political ideology.

It was written while the Nazi leader was in jail following the failed 1923 Munich Pusch and was published in 1925.

It includes racist diatribes against Jews and their ‘twin evil’, communism.

He argued that Germany would be forced to fight a war in the east as it secured ‘lebensraum’ – or living room – for its citizens at the expense of Slavs, whom he also viewed as inferior.

It explains why aggressively expanded Germany eastward, specifically the invasions of Czechoslovakia and Poland, before he launched his attack against Russia.

As a form of manifesto, he also argued that Germany would be better off without parliamentary government, which he blamed for the country’s problems.

While the book is not illegal in Germany, the state has not allowed it to be printed amid fears that it could promote Nazism.

Experts say that his signature at the time was rushed and resembled little more than a squiggle, a reflection of his scrambled state of mind at the time.


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The copy of Mein Kampf - My Struggle - was a limited print-run from 1939 to mark Hitler's 50th birthday.

Underneath his autograph the Nazi monster wrote the date of March 5, 1945.




At the time Hitler had taken up permanent residence in his bunker under the Reich Chancellery in Berlin while the Russians advanced from the east and British and Americans from the west.

On April 30 - 12 days before the end of World War II - he shot himself moments after his mistress, Eva Bruan, committed suicide by biting on a cycanide capsule.

The book was acquired many years ago by a British man from an American collector.

He is now selling it at auction with a pre-sale estimate of 5,000 pounds.

Richard Westwood-Brooks, of auctioneers Mullocks, said: 'The book is itself rare but this one bears Hitler's signature with the date of March 5th 1945.

'By March the Allied armies in the west and the Soviet Red Army in the east were making significant gains on German soil, and indeed on that very date the allies captured Cologne.


'Hitler, in retreat in his bunker in Berlin could only await the inevitable total destruction of his Third Reich.

'But it is also well known that he believed that via some miracle some sort of surprise counter attack by the German army would turn the tide in his favour.

'So on March 5 he presented this book, signing it with his bizarre signature.

'We don't know to whom he gave the book, but it was probably a senior member of his staff, and it is quite possible that it was given as a parting gift.

'The signature is also significant as it shows how much his mental state had degenerated and he must have known his inevitable fate.

'His signature, once large and bold, had degenerated into a small almost insignificant scribble.'

He added: 'Material from the last few weeks of Hitler's life are rare and this book is a particularly evocative reminder of the futility of his whole evil life.'

The auction takes place on February 14.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2262153/Copy-Mein-Kampf-signed-Hitler-bunker-Allies-closed-emerges-sale.html

andy
January 17th, 2013, 06:20 AM
"mistress, Eva Bruan"
I presume the term mistress is used as a pejorative term.It is certainly unusual in the case of a single man and a single woman in a legitimate relationship.

Martin Simard
January 17th, 2013, 06:27 AM
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2192511/The-gold-plated-revolver-used-Hermann-Goering-surrender-allies-resurfaces-sale-30-000.html

Hitler never gave an order for Goering to be shot, his order was for Goering to be retired from his offices. It was Martin Bormann who sent a message to the SS to kill Goering behind Hitler's back.

Martin Simard
January 17th, 2013, 06:31 AM
Most White Brits don't even understand WWII, they have this self obsession where they think Hitler wanted to conquer them when the truth is the exact opposite. The White British working class is similar to Linder's depiction of the White Southerner: as anti-intellectual illiterates who never bother to learn what were the motives behind the wars their nation has fought in.

EDLIE Stampton
January 17th, 2013, 07:18 AM
"mistress, Eva Bruan"
I presume the term mistress is used as a pejorative term.It is certainly unusual in the case of a single man and a single woman in a legitimate relationship.

I understand they were actually Mr and Mrs Hitler.

Bev
January 17th, 2013, 07:25 AM
Yes, they married at the end of April 1945. But "mistress" is a much more insulting word than "wife".

Henry.
January 17th, 2013, 07:27 AM
I understand they were actually Mr and Mrs Hitler.
It's the Mail so don't expect accuracy...and forget about honesty.

Karl Radl
January 17th, 2013, 10:42 AM
Yes, they married at the end of April 1945. But "mistress" is a much more insulting word than "wife".

You are right, but then it is the Wail.

She was hardly his mistress (indeed biographers of Eva and Hitler have in the main long dropped the term [as it is anachronistic at best]) considering their relationship lasted a decade and some loose change: only ending with their death. Besides that as far as we know Hitler and Eva were both monogamous for the whole period.

I wonder how many Wail journos lived with their girlfriends or boyfriends for a long time before they got married: ho hum.

Bev
January 17th, 2013, 11:48 AM
You are right, but then it is the Wail.

She was hardly his mistress (indeed biographers of Eva and Hitler have in the main long dropped the term [as it is anachronistic at best]) considering their relationship lasted a decade and some loose change: only ending with their death. Besides that as far as we know Hitler and Eva were both monogamous for the whole period.

I wonder how many Wail journos lived with their girlfriends or boyfriends for a long time before they got married: ho hum.

Exactly. If I understand older relatives and accounts written by their contemporaries, it wasn't even *that* big of a deal to be with someone and not married. Not as common or as accepted as today, of course.

On another note, I sometimes wonder if the Mail stories are written by more than one person. The "mistress" was clearly intended to be derogatory, as was the "squalid". Yet elsewhere in the article, there is talk of "invading Russians", where one would have expected the Mail to use conquering or liberating or another positive word. Then there is the line:

A particularly poignant shot are the empty jerry cans of petrol used for the Fuehrer's funeral pyre, lying abandoned in the rubble of the Chancellery garden.

Poignant seems a sympathetic choice of adjective. Sure it fits, if we go with a "strongly felt" definition, but to the vast majority of people (and certainly the average Mail reader) "poignant" means "sad".

Karl Radl
January 17th, 2013, 11:59 AM
Exactly. If I understand older relatives and accounts written by their contemporaries, it wasn't even *that* big of a deal to be with someone and not married. Not as common or as accepted as today, of course.

As I recall even the British propaganda machine didn't make too much of a deal out of it and they seem to have made a deal out of just about everything else: including faking accounts of 'Hitler's sadistic sexual appetites' (i.e. 'I was Hitler's Maid').

On another note, I sometimes wonder if the Mail stories are written by more than one person. The "mistress" was clearly intended to be derogatory, as was the "squalid". Yet elsewhere in the article, there is talk of "invading Russians", where one would have expected the Mail to use conquering or liberating or another positive word.

I suspect the 'evil Nazis' stories are largely copy from interns (easy to research/write as they can just cull stuff from pop websites and conservative phora) that is then heavily edited by Paul Dacre or someone appointed by him.

The variations are probably caused by changes in who is doing the editing of the copy.

Poignant seems a sympathetic choice of adjective. Sure it fits, if we go with a "strongly felt" definition, but to the vast majority of people (and certainly the average Mail reader) "poignant" means "sad".

Possibly, but bear in mind that most journalists and even editors today are not that well read (beyond pop literature) and are not the wordsmiths of yesteryear. After all professional private newspaper journalism is now a relatively low grade and underpaid profession with no possibility of becoming the journalist paid tens; even hundreds, of thousands for writing a thousand/two thousand words a day (if that) that were numerous up and till the early part of the last decade.

Englisc
January 17th, 2013, 12:18 PM
"mistress, Eva Bruan"
I presume the term mistress is used as a pejorative term.It is certainly unusual in the case of a single man and a single woman in a legitimate relationship.
I'm annoyed at this too. A mistress properly refers to the lover of a man that is already married (usually in non-romantic marriages). Hitler was never with anyone but Eva. Thus she was only his girlfriend or perhaps just friend, until their marriage.

Bev
January 17th, 2013, 12:23 PM
As I recall even the British propaganda machine didn't make too much of a deal out of it and they seem to have made a deal out of just about everything else: including faking accounts of 'Hitler's sadistic sexual appetites' (i.e. 'I was Hitler's Maid').



I suspect the 'evil Nazis' stories are largely copy from interns (easy to research/write as they can just cull stuff from pop websites and conservative phora) that is then heavily edited by Paul Dacre or someone appointed by him.

The variations are probably caused by changes in who is doing the editing of the copy.



Possibly, but bear in mind that most journalists and even editors today are not that well read (beyond pop literature) and are not the wordsmiths of yesteryear. After all professional private newspaper journalism is now a relatively low grade and underpaid profession with no possibility of becoming the journalist paid tens; even hundreds, of thousands for writing a thousand/two thousand words a day (if that) that were numerous up and till the early part of the last decade.

Yeah, I think you're probably right. I just love words and the way they're used to create effects and was reading too much into it. (npi)

Karl Radl
January 17th, 2013, 12:39 PM
Yeah, I think you're probably right. I just love words and the way they're used to create effects and was reading too much into it. (npi)

That be too much like thinking for the Wail.

andy
January 17th, 2013, 01:53 PM
I'm annoyed at this too. A mistress properly refers to the lover of a man that is already married (usually in non-romantic marriages). Hitler was never with anyone but Eva. Thus she was only his girlfriend or perhaps just friend, until their marriage.

What about when the woman is married and the man is single,what's the terminology ?

Bev
January 17th, 2013, 02:08 PM
What about when the woman is married and the man is single,what's the terminology ?

"lover".

"cad".

Depends on which side of the fence you're on.

andy
January 17th, 2013, 02:13 PM
"lover".

"cad".

Depends on which side of the fence you're on.

Possibly but what is the term for the woman involved ? Is she a mistress ? Are there any literary citations ?

Bev
January 20th, 2013, 08:01 AM
The Spitfire Mk XVI has just returned from a test flight involving loop-the-loops, rolls and hangar-rumbling fly-pasts

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The Spitfire Mk XVI, serial number TE311, after her restoration and ready to fly with the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight

In autumn 1940, as the Battle of Britain raged, Luftwaffe commander-in-chief Hermann Göring gazed across the Channel towards Dover’s white cliffs and asked German fighter ace Adolf Galland what he’d need to defeat the RAF.

‘Eine Ausstattung von Spitfires für meine Gruppe (an outfit of Spitfires for my group),’ was Galland’s reply.

The Spitfire, designed in the mid-Thirties by RJ Mitchell at Southampton’s Supermarine Aviation Works, was quick to capture the public’s imagination.

Its aggressive pilots and tireless ground crews gave Britain the breathing space it needed to mount a sustained fightback against Germany during Europe’s darkest hours.


It could turn more tightly than the Messerschmitt 109, its rounded edges were more appealing to the eye and the growling sounds of its Rolls-Royce Merlin engine were like a mechanical symphony.

The enduring appeal of the planes is illustrated by the fanfare surrounding the ongoing efforts of British experts to find 120 unused Spitfires believed to be buried in Burma.

There are thought to be no more than 50 airworthy Spitfires left in the world – including the Rolls-Royce-owned plane that crash-landed at East Midlands Airport earlier this month.

However, the number is rising.

Until recently, the RAF Battle of Britain Memorial Flight (BBMF) flew five Spitfires – a Mk II Battle of Britain veteran, a Mk V, a Mk IX and a pair of PR XIXs – but last month, the BBMF base at RAF Coningsby in Lincolnshire welcomed another into the fold, a Mk XVI.


Built in 1945, the XVI featured a bubble canopy to provide all-round vision, clipped wingtips to improve the rate of roll and an American 1,500hp-plus Packard V-1650 engine – a licence-built Merlin (which, according to BBMF engineer Nigel ‘Sticky’ Bunn, was superior to the British original).

Beneath snow-threatening clouds looming over the Lincolnshire Fens, the jagged triangular shapes of Typhoon jet fighters tear apart the winter sky. It’s nose-nippingly cold at Coningsby.

‘You get used to that round here,’ the lady in the BBMF shop cheerfully states.

In a nearby hangar, visitors are confronted by the familiar profiles of a Lancaster bomber, Dakota transports, a Hurricane fighter and three Spitfires.


These vintage aircraft are in various states of servicing, but the newly restored Mk XVI, serial number TE311, is battle-ready.

‘TE’, as friends know her, has just returned from a test flight involving loop-the-loops, rolls and hangar-rumbling fly-pasts.

Rebuilt from the ground up over a period of 11 years, she’s the current darling of the BBMF’s pilots and engineers.

‘Those who’ve been up in her have come back with massive smiles on their faces,’ says avionics specialist Andy Bale. ‘They’re saying it’s perfectly balanced and a lovely plane to fly.’


Before her restoration, the last time TE311 flew was 58 years ago, on less-than-glamorous pilot-training duty.

She was delivered to the Air Ministry a month after the end of World War II, and placed in storage before finding work with flight schools.

Once her career came to a close, TE311 was moved to RAF Tangmere near Chichester, where for 14 years she was used as a ‘gate guardian’.

For most Spitfires in the late Sixties, the next stop would have been a museum, but TE311 found an extended life as an exhibit, visiting air shows and village fetes on the back of a flatbed truck. However, life on the road took its toll.

In 2001, in a bedraggled state, TE311 was hauled to Coningsby and given an inspection by BBMF chief engineer Paul Blackah.


He concluded that the aircraft could be restored to flying condition, but it would be a lengthy process.

‘Although TE311 had an engine fitted, there was no pipework, so a lot of the project was about finding the systems,’ says Blackah.

‘It’s all right having your wings and your fuselage, but you need the systems to fit into it. That’s why the project has taken so long.’

The aircraft’s transformation has been nothing short of miraculous.

TE311 was suffering from critically corroded engine bearers, a weakened cockpit structure, a brittle canopy and a rain-damaged airframe, while the aileron flaps, elevators and rudder had been fixed in position for road travel with aluminium-alloy plates.

On the positive side, the Packard engine had heroically stood up to the elements and was able to be brought back to full working order, gaining valuable bedding-in time as one of the Lancaster’s four engines.

‘If you were designing an aircraft today, you wouldn’t make it how Mitchell designed it,’ says Blackah.

‘When you’ve got an oil leak, you think, “Why did they put this here?” I can’t reach anything. It’s annoying. But they are nice to work on, don’t get me wrong.’

Climbing into the cockpit of a Spitfire is no easy task. A foot on the wing, then one on the seat, and you carefully lower yourself behind the flight instruments. What’s striking about TE311 is that she doesn’t feel antique.

Everything is new; the dials are sharp and clear and there’s no smell of aged leather or oil.

You have to lower your head to slide the canopy closed, but once it’s locked you have just enough room to swivel your head round – 360º vision was a vital advantage in 1945.

‘The Spitfire is a legend, and rightly so,’ says Squadron Leader Duncan Mason, BBMF Officer Commanding and one of two dedicated Spitfire pilots at Coningsby.

‘The first Spitfire I flew was a Mk V. I said to Paul Blackah and Sticky, who built and restored TE311, that when I flew TE last week the excitement was on a par with when I flew my first Spitfire.

'When you get her airborne, she’s made to fly. She doesn’t want to be on the ground. She’s beautifully responsive. The boys who built this have done the most phenomenal job.


'We try to make everything as authentic as we possibly can, because we feel this is a living memorial to the guys that flew them.’

In total, 22,789 Spitfires were produced, many used as front-line fighters around the world well into the Sixties.

When the final RAF Spitfire sortie, a photographic mission over Malaysia, was flown on April 1, 1954, it brought the curtain down on 16 years of exceptional service.

But the popularity of the planes means their future is brighter than ever; ten have been returned to an airworthy state since 2004.

Despite the attractions, restoring a Spitfire is an arduous task.

‘We had to have bits specially made,’ says Blackah. ‘That can be time-consuming – and those parts don’t always fit when they arrive.

'A lot of spares for TE311 were bought from Supermarine Aero Engineering at Stoke-on-Trent, which is one of the world’s leading suppliers of Spitfire parts, while the wings are overhauled at Airframe Assemblies on the Isle of Wight.

'There’s a whole industry out there.’

If you can’t afford the £1.4 million needed to obtain an original, it’s now possible to buy a ‘new’ Spit, a 90 per cent scale aluminium ‘Mk 26B’ kit, from Supermarine Aircraft in Texas, with prices starting at £110,000.

As for TE311, a busy season awaits. Her first engagement is in May, when she will fly alongside the BBMF’s Lancaster to mark the 70th anniversary of the Dambusters raid, and she’ll then take part in numerous air shows and fly-pasts until October.

The Spitfire and its pilots and ground crews gave Britain hope when it was needed most.

Thanks to the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight, the heroism of the Few can still be commemorated in the most vivid way possible: with the thrilling sound and the unmistakable silhouette of a Spitfire streaking across the sky.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2263990/Spitfire-Mk-XVII-How-restore-60-year-old-Spitfire-glory-With-patience-set-machine-guns-RAFs-mechanics.html

Bev
January 20th, 2013, 08:03 AM
A British adventurer hunting for Second World War Spitfires he believes are buried in Burma plans to continue his search – despite suffering a health scare at the end of an unsuccessful excavation project.

David Cundall, 62, fell ill in his hotel in Burma’s former capital Rangoon, where a £1 million dig for some of the aircraft was called off on Friday.

The Lincolnshire farmer was taken to hospital, treated for high blood pressure and advised not to fly. But last night he was preparing to board a plane to travel 900 miles to the civil-war-torn city of Myitkina in the north of Burma, where he plans to begin a second dig almost single-handedly.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265255/Health-scare-wont-end-Spitfire-dream-Adventurer-continue-searching-planes-Burma.html


Scraping it a bit today, but don't worry, they found a couple.

Bev
January 21st, 2013, 09:19 AM
A former Nazi soldier is to demand compensation at the High Court claiming he was tortured by British interrogators using ‘Gestapo methods’ after the Second World War.

Gerhard Menzel, 89, was arrested in Hamburg in June 1946 by British intelligence officials who suspected he was a Communist spy.

He was taken to the British-run Bad Nenndorf prison near Hanover where he claims to have been tortured with thumb and shin screws seized from a Gestapo cellar.

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Gerhard Menzel, 89, is taking his claim to the High Court after he said he was tortured while imprisoned at Bad Nenndorf by the British

Mr Menzel says he was also punched in the face, had his hands chained behind his back for up to 16 days at a time and was drenched in iced water every half an hour, according to magazine Focus.

He said he is taking legal action now, almost 70 years after the event, because he is the jail’s last surviving prisoner.

The engineer, from Lindau in South Germany, will have his case heard at the High Court in what is thought to be the first ever claim from a representative of the Nazi armed forces.

The case is expected to begin next month. Mr Menzel said: ‘I deserve to be financially compensated for what I suffered. Prime Minister David Cameron will understand me. He is a gentleman.’


Former Nazis, members of the SS, associates of Adolf Hitler and suspected Communists were interrogated by the British at Bad Nenndorf between June 1945 and July 1947. It is claimed mock executions were held at the facility, and several inmates committed suicide or died from hunger or exhaustion.

Locals claimed to hear screams coming from the prison which became known as das verbotene dorf – the forbidden village.

The treatment of 372 men and 44 women prisoners led to an investigation by a Scotland Yard detective, Inspector Tom Hayward.

Four of Bad Nenndorf’s officers were brought before a court-martial in 1948. One was convicted on charges of neglect. Mr Menzel, who is 6ft, was 23 when he was arrested. Documents show he was 10st 3lb then, but after eight months at Bad Nenndorf he was 7st 10lb.

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Mr Menzel said he was tortured using shin and thumb screws used by the Gestapo, pictured being inspected by chief Heinrich Himmler

He was transferred to another British-run camp where a doctor noted he was ‘only skin and bones’ and his chances of survival were slim.

The notes from the doctors add: ‘He could neither walk nor stand up without assistance, and could only speak with difficulty because his tongue and lips were swollen and broken open.’

Mr Menzel was one of 12 inmates transferred from Bad Nenndorf. All were described as being emaciated and dressed in rags. Previous arrivals had also been half-starved according to notes taken at the time, and some had scars apparently as a result of beatings and torture with shin screws.

Mr Menzel said: ‘Anything I win would be a token towards acknowledging that hundreds of other people were cruelly and senselessly tortured in this place.

‘It is a long time in coming. They said I was a Communist spy, but it was rubbish. I was a victim of paranoia about Stalin.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265650/70-years-Nazi-soldier-sues-UK-torture-jail-hundreds-German-prisoners-held-suspected-Communist-spies.html

Henry.
January 21st, 2013, 09:24 AM
Mr Menzel said: ‘I deserve to be financially compensated for what I suffered. Prime Minister David Cameron will understand me. He is a gentleman.’
Yeah, Dave being from a Jewish family, will be very understanding :rofl

andy
January 21st, 2013, 03:09 PM
Cases did come to court at the time (1950's) including military courts martial no one found guilty of course but the UK did pay compensation to torture victims.

Further as with the Belsen Doctors (And no i'm not searching for it for lazy gainsayers who are just contrary cunts) film there was a film broadcast concerning Werwolves in post war Germany.where one of the torturers (A west country accented fat slob) openly admitted carrying out KGB like atrocities on German civilians.

Bev
January 27th, 2013, 09:33 AM
Faced with an unimaginable dilemma, Bettine Le Beau’s mother decided to give her and her brother to a stranger to save them from a concentration camp.

To mark Holocaust Memorial Day, Bettine tells Louette Harding about her dangerous escape and her remarkable life after the war

The depths of winter, 1940: an agent from a humanitarian organisation smuggles herself into Gurs concentration camp near the French Pyrenees. In the women’s barrack, she explains, ‘I am able to take ten children out of here. Tell me if you want me to take yours.’

Bettine Le Beau was then eight years old, shivering in the separate children’s barrack close by, along with her elder brother. More than 70 years later, her voice shakes with emotion at the memory. ‘A lot of the women said, “No. Where I go, my children go.” But my mum said, “Take them. Please take them to safety. But keep a record. If God helps me and I make it out of here, I will need to know where they are.”’

Bettine spent the rest of the war as a hidden child, protected by strangers who risked their lives for her. In a parallel narrative – the shadowy what-might-have-been – she was transported east to Auschwitz with most of the other prisoners.

Like them, she stepped out on to a platform beneath its belching, satanic chimney and followed the queue into the gas chambers. In that version, she did not come to England, did not marry and have two children, did not enjoy a frothy career as a starlet in TV comedies and film. She would not now be a beautiful woman still, sitting in her flat in North London with the central heating at full blast, surrounded by ornaments and house plants, spoiling me with fondant fancies served upon porcelain with dainty forks.

She is talking now about those wartime years in order to commemorate Holocaust Memorial Day today. This year’s theme is ‘Communities Together: Build a Bridge’, so her story is particularly apt. After the charity engineered her escape, they concealed her in a remote rural neighbourhood, a gentile community sheltering a Jewish child.


As she talks, I get the impression her décor is a re-creation of her childhood home in Brussels, where her mother, Rachel, would arrange a full-skirted doll on the pillows of the bed after making it. ‘She would say, “This is an ornament, you must not play with it.”’

Even after Germany invaded Poland in 1939, life in Brussels continued with wilful normality. Bettine was the apple of her father’s eye. Leopold Fallek, a furrier, still travelled to the bimonthly fur sales in London.

He was there when Germany invaded Belgium in May 1940. Bettine conjures a jumble of tangled memories: her mother collecting their savings in gold coins from the bank, the panicking crowds at the Gare du Midi, where her 12-year-old brother Harry was rudely pushed off the seats he was so proud of finding on the train to Paris, then her mother approaching a taxi driver in the rank and promising him gold to drive them to the French capital.

She remembers tramping lines of desperate people, suitcases abandoned on the road when they became too heavy.

In Paris, they stayed with friends while applying for a visa from the British consul to join her father. ‘This couple had two sons, very clever boys…’ Bettine is struggling to continue. ‘It upsets me even now…we learned after the war they were slaughtered in the death camps.’

After Paris surrendered in June 1940, the new French government collaborated with the Nazis and began rounding up Jewish refugees. The three Falleks were sent to the Bordeaux area and then to Audaux castle in the Pyrenees.

‘I am a great optimist,’ Bettine says. ‘Up until then I was looking forward to seeing my daddy again. And while we were in Paris, my mother was saying, “We are in a great city: what do you want to see?”, taking us out all day so we did not inconvenience our hosts. Afterwards, although we had to go every week to the mairie [town hall] to sign in, we thought, “This is OK until the end of the war.” But when we entered the castle, surrounded by barbed wire, I saw men crying for the first time. Now, it started. I knew it was dangerous. The men collapsed. Some were ill: they had diarrhoea, they lost their memory. It was the women who were the strongest.’ When the lorries arrived to move them on yet again, this time to Gurs concentration camp, ‘I was frightened but not as much as the others. Never as much as the others.’


Bettine saw her mother only through the wire fence between the children’s and the women’s barracks. ‘I could speak to her.’ Could she touch her? ‘No. But as long as you see the person you love…’ Her telephone trills and a male voice announces to the answer machine that he is calling to check how she is. ‘My brother. We speak once a week.’

Conditions were primitive: a draughty, sodden wooden hut with an earth floor, straw palliasses for beds. ‘There were rats – I’m not joking – as big as this.’ With her hands, she measures out a foot on her spotless coffee table. ‘Lice, fleas. It was filthy.’

Touchingly, the children dreamt up fair systems. They cut the morning loaf into 30 and took turns choosing a portion so each had a chance of the biggest. ‘When it was my turn to pick, my brother would be ordering me, “Pick that one! It’s bigger. Wait! That one is even better.”

The last one who got the worst portion was entitled to the crumbs. We would lick our finger and pick each one up. At lunchtime, it was pumpkin soup. Two meals a day. The others were starving. I used my imagination to pretend I wasn’t hungry. And we were resilient because we found games, playing jacks with stones. We entertained each other by starting a story.’

By the winter of 1940, children were sickening with dysentery and typhus. ‘They took to their palliasses, gave up hope and cried all day. We saw a lot die.’ She grows abrupt, unwilling to revisit the memory further.

The undercover agent of Oeuvre de Secours Aux Enfants (OSE) arrived as Bettine was crumbling because of the bitter cold, wearing three dresses at once in a futile attempt to keep warm. Bribing a guard, the operative took some of the children out of the camp to an OSE home in central France. Bettine – lice-ridden, wetting the bed, forgetting all her table manners – wasn’t popular to begin with, but grew happier. ‘I missed my parents but I was waiting for when we would all be reunited. Maybe I just kidded myself. I do that now – I tell myself all sorts of lovely stories.’

‘My mum said, “Please take them to safety. But keep a record. If God helps me and I make it out of here, I will need to know where they are”’

In 1942, the French government cooperated with the Nazis’ Final Solution, deporting Jews in cattle wagons to Auschwitz. The OSE managed to move their Jewish children to safety before the children’s home was raided on SS orders, smuggling several groups under the barbed-wire fence that marked the border with Switzerland in the hidden passes of the Alps.

Bettine and her brother were taken to the region but a week before they were due to make the run into Switzerland, the Germans captured and killed their guide. The only solution was for the OSE to hide them in remote areas of France.


‘They found my brother, who was already 14, a job as a shepherd high up in the mountains. They gave me a new identity. They impressed on me that this was life or death. That however lovely people were to me, I should never tell the truth. So I became Betty Frickier. My father was a prisoner of war and my mother was dead.’ Did this seem like make-believe? Was it fun in any way? ‘Fun? No, never fun. But I said to myself, “I can do this.”’
aged 12 with brother Harry, after Paris was liberated

Aged 12 with brother Harry, after Paris was liberated

After they were approached by their priest, Marthe and Abel Marre – a middle-aged, childless couple who owned a secluded farm – agreed to take Bettine and another girl, ‘Henriette’. On Christmas Eve 1942, a truck dropped the two ten-year-olds by the side of a main road.

They followed their instructions across a tiny bridge, over unlit fields, until they stumbled into the farmyard as the dogs barked. ‘We were both frightened. We held hands. Then they opened the door of the farm and light flooded out. It reminded me of the Christmas story.’

Bettine spent the remainder of the war with this decent couple. The girls attended the tiny village school. The community found their cover story credible, or perhaps chose not to ask questions. Bettine was settled, even acquired a taste for pork, but she was never at home. ‘I was always on my best behaviour. Always. [The Marres] were so kind but completely different to us. They spoke softly; in our home, we shouted. We always told jokes. And despite everything, I had a sense of my own identity. I knew who I was.’ Did Bettine remain in touch? ‘Until they died. I came with presents, things they didn’t have, such as a television, and they visited me in England.’

When the war ended, Harry appeared at the farm, brusquely reclaiming his sister from the Marres without a thank-you: ‘The war took away all his charm.’ She was, indeed, reunited with her parents, although her mother never asked questions about the Marres and never spoke of her own survival. The longed-for happy ending fell apart. ‘We came to England, my father tried to be nice to my mother but he had been five years without her and he had somebody else, another woman and a child.’

‘I missed my parents but I was waiting for when we would all be reunited. Maybe I just kidded myself’

Bettine grew up in the frigid atmosphere of her parents’ arrangement. ‘My mother was old-fashioned. She said to my father, “We will remain together until Bettine marries and then we will separate.”’ At what age did she marry? ‘Twenty. So yes, the war destroyed my family. My mother became bitter. She was never interested in my showbusiness career. My father wrote to producers to thank them for casting me.’

She reveals folders of cuttings detailing her time in classic Benny Hill skits and as a Bond girl. ‘[For] my first audition, I said to my daddy, “I want to look like a film star.” He made me a white fox-fur Russian hat and muff. When I joined the queue of hopefuls, the director said, “Do you want to go first as maybe you’ve got a wedding to go to?”’ Rich laughter.


Has she ever met her half-sister? ‘No. Never. I like people. What if I liked her? It would be disloyal to my mother.’ Such is her fealty to the family ideal that she laid her mother next to her father in the same mausoleum at Bushey Jewish Cemetery in Hertfordshire: ‘They are together in death.’
Bettine’s stage name is a frenchification of her first husband’s surname, Lebow, which itself sounds like an anglicisation of an originally Jewish name. ‘I like people to do things for me. I need a father figure. Peter was a big fellow, nine years older than me, a manufacturer, a big shot. He used to call me Choochie, which I liked. The only thing was, he was a big gambler.’


She often had to move because of his debts, dramatically swapping a townhouse off Regent Street in Central London for an ex-local-authority flat in 1980, but she resolutely refused to grow bitter. ‘I couldn’t live with someone who ran around with women – if he had to have a bad trait, let it be gambling. But then my father died and the money he left me I gave to my husband. I thought he would not gamble my father’s money away. But he did. He went to Las Vegas with it. So 39 years after we married, we divorced.’

She married again, to a man from a very different background, and is now widowed. Her son lives in England, her daughter in Israel, there are grandchildren, a circle of friends who convene for her coffee and cake, a continuing career as a motivational speaker.

Today, Bettine remains girlish, a self-confessed ‘show-off’, with charm in bucket-loads. She says,
‘I like people to love me,’ but doesn’t fancy another man in her life. ‘I don’t want a toy boy and I’m not
a good nurse.’ Before the war her mother was always positive. ‘When she said goodbye to me
at the concentration camp she told me, “You’ve got your brother. You father is safe. I will join you one day.” She did not cry, so I believed her. I kidded myself that there was an angel looking after me. Today, I say, “Think positive and if you don’t get what you want, tell yourself there was a reason for it.”’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-2266957/Bettine-Le-Beau--child-survivor-holocaust.html

Bev
January 29th, 2013, 10:40 AM
A never-before-seen portrait of Nazi leader Hermann Goering painted by a Jewish artist during the 1930s is set to go under the hammer.

The oil painting by Imre Goth enraged the tyrant after it was completed, as he was furious that it depicted him as the morphine-fuelled drug addict he was.

Goering was so outraged by the artwork that Goth feared for his life, and was forced to flee Germany and seek refuge in Britain.

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Up for auction: This portrait of Hermann Goering by Imre Goth is going under the hammer

The portrait never left the possession of its creator, and on his death 30 years ago he asked a friend to destroy it.

But the confidante kept the unique work, and it is expected to sell for thousands of pounds when it goes up for auction next month.



Goering commissioned the Hungarian-born artist - whose work appeared in a number of trendy German magazines - to paint portraits of him and his actress girlfriend in 1934, at the height of the Nazi rise to power.

But Hitler’s right hand man was said to be dismayed when he saw the finished article.

He had developed an addiction to morphine during the First World War, and worried that the painting showed the effects the drug was having on his body.

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Badly received: The Nazi feared that the picture exposed his debilitating morphine habit by depicting the damage it had done to his appearance

Goering demanded that the artist alter the portrait to bring it in line with heroic propaganda images of his fellow leaders.

But Goth insisted he would only paint what he could see, and refused to create a ‘dishonest’ vision of Goering.

Realising his life was in danger, the artist fled to Britain, and was interned in a camp on the Isle of Man before being allowed to settle in the UK, where he stayed until his death in 1982, aged 89.

He brought the painting with him and entrusted it to friend Sylvia Reed on the condition she dispose of it when she died.

But she decided to preserve the artwork for posterity, and kept it under wraps for almost 30 years.

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Propaganda: An official portrait of Goering painting him in a much more heroic light
REFUGEE FROM NAZI REGIME WITH FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES

Imre Goth (1893-1982) was a Hungarian Jewish artist who found fame as a portraitist in Berlin.

His pictures were often seen in German magazines during the 1930s, which was when he was commissioned to paint Hermann Goering.

During the middle of that decade, as Nazi Germany became an increasingly hostile place for Jews, he moved to Britain after holding a successful exhibition in Birmingham.

As a citizen of an enemy state, Goth was interned on the Isle of Man during the early years of the Second World War.

However, he later settled into a peaceful life, and struck up a friendship with film producer Alexander Korda, giving him an entry into the British showbiz world.

He lived off the proceeds of his inventions, which included car headlights and a type of parachute.

A note from Mrs Reed which accompanies the picture reads: 'Goering commissioned him to paint pictures of friends and particularly of an actress he was having an affair with at the time, and then asked him to paint his portrait as he wished to give it as present to his girlfriend.

'At the time Imre Goth got on well with Goering due to their mutual interest in aircraft and flying... all went well until the portrait of Goering was finished.

'Goering felt that the eyes betrayed the fact that he was taking morphine and he demanded that Goth should change them.

'Goth said he could only paint what he saw and left immediately.'

The portrait forms part of a war memorabilia sale to be held by Mullock’s auctioneers in Ludlow, Shropshire on February 14. Its reserve price is £8,000, but it has previously been valued by experts as high as £50,000.

'The historical significance of this portrait cannot be denied,' said Richard Westwood-Brookes of Mullock's.

'As opposed to the official Nazi portraits of Goering, this shows him exactly what he was - a depraved drug addict - and for that reason I personally think it should be displayed publicly to show successive generations exactly what the Nazis really were, as opposed to their now more familiar propaganda images.'

Before his exile Goth was a celebrated artist and his paintings could be seen on the covers of magazines and on gallery walls.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270063/Imre-Goth-oil-painting-angered-Hermann-Goering-portraying-drug-addict-emerges-sale.html

A comment:


Goering became reliant on morphine after being seriously wounded in the failed Putsch of 1923, not during World War One, when he was flying with von Richthofen, and led the squadron after Richthofen's death. Being a flying ace and being addicted to morphine are hardly compatible. Once again, DM muddles the facts!

andy
January 31st, 2013, 04:36 AM
The Eszeha watch was engraved with 'Zum 6.2.1939 herzlichst A. Hitler' (‘On 6 February 1939, most affectionately, A. Hitler’) with a registration code of 86439 and had been hidden in a Munich museum.
It was found at the Pinakothek der Moderne (Gallery of the Modern) by researchers with Der Spiegel (The Mirror) magazine, stored together with other valuable Nazi objects hidden from the public


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2269884/The-platinum-watch-given-Eva-Braun-Adolf-Hitler-just-months-start-Second-World-War.html?ito=feeds-newsxml


From the comments

"Sometimes it's like he won. Seems like he will never die. People talk about him as much as they talk about Jesus".
- Chavonne , Eversville - NY, 29/1/2013 14:09

Bev
January 31st, 2013, 07:54 AM
I was beginning to get worried. There was a story mildly critical of Israel and no WWII story to balance it.

The decaying wreckage of a Second World War fighter plane, exposed after 65 years by changing tides on the Welsh coast, is to be removed.

Known as the Maid of Harlech, the Lockheed P-38 Lightning fighter aircraft was discovered in July 2007 after decades hidden under the sands.

It was the first time the rare United States Army Air Force (USAAF) fighter had been seen since it crashed off the Welsh coast in 1942 while on exercise.
Known as the Maid of Harlech, a Lockheed P-38 Lightning fighter aircraft was discovered in July 2007 after 65 years hidden under the sands. It will now be carefully removed from its secret location

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Known as the Maid of Harlech, a Lockheed P-38 Lightning fighter aircraft was discovered in July 2007 after 65 years hidden under the sands. It will now be carefully removed from its secret location

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2271153/The-ghost-rises-Ambitious-plan-salvage-WW2-Lightning-fighter-sea-Welsh-coast.html

Bev
January 31st, 2013, 07:55 AM
The Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe in Berlin serves as a solemn reminder of the millions of lives lost during the Holocaust.

It also serves as the backdrop for hundreds of gay and bisexual men using the austere grey concrete backdrop as a location to shoot their profile pictures for social app Grindr.

The images have been collected on the blog ‘Totem and Taboo: Grindr Remembers the Holocaust,’ and have caused considerable outrage over the political correctness of the location.

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Flex: Gay and bisexual men in Berlin have taken to posting pictures of themselves at the Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe, sometimes without shirts and flexing their muscles


The memorial consists of 2,711 concrete slabs, encased on four acres of land in the heart of Berlin, and is a popular, if not sombre, tourist attraction for hundreds of thousands of people.

Included in that are men on Grindr trying to find casual hook-ups and make connections. Men from the site are pictured in various poses – and sometimes shirtless – amid the grey concrete slabs.

One blogger pictured making a steely glance for the camera wrote on his profile: ‘Remembering those who cannot text anymore.’



The blog, which was founded by Zion Afuta and Boris Cukierman, spells out its charter by saying that we live in an age ‘when ignorance is (sic) prevalent than ever,’ and Grindr has ‘wowed its members in relentlessly promoting the memory of the Holocaust.’

The Israeli-born blog founders live abroad; Mr Afuta in Berlin and Mr Cukierman in London, and told AbbaNibi that this unlikely tourist attraction became a backdrop for a specific sect of counterculture.

They explained: ‘Users seem to come from various places and from diverse ethnic backgrounds. Through the adoption of Grindr users, the monument gets in our blog a new role; not only as a space for grief and sadness, but also a site for hope, unity, and cruising.’

Neither Grindr nor 'Totem and Taboo's' founders immediately responded to MailOnline's request for comment.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2271061/Outrage-Grindr-users-post-revealing-pictures-Berlin-Holocaust-memorial.html

Adolf The Great
January 31st, 2013, 06:18 PM
Aye the stories never stop...

See how many papers had it in a couple of days ago that it was 80 years ago when Adolf came to power.

Bev
February 2nd, 2013, 11:29 AM
By day he ordered the deaths of thousands of people - but at home he was a loving father and husband who enjoyed playing games with his children.

These are the two faces of Rudolf Hoess, the ruthless commandant of Auschwitz concentration camp in Poland during World War II as remembered by the Polish maid who once worked in his family's house.

Her memories of life in the Hoess home are revealed in a new book which has given a chilling insight into the family lives of Nazi officers at the infamous prison camp whose day jobs involved mass murder.

'The Private Life of the SS in Auschwitz' by historian Piotr Setkiewicz attempts to give a human face to inhumane people in those hours when they were off duty in one of the world's most horrific places.

The testimony about the killers is unique because it comes from the Polish maids assigned to keep their houses and witnessed at first hand their interaction with their families on a day to day basis.

Hoess, who was hanged after the war at Auschwitz by the Polish authorities for overseeing the extermination of at least 1.2 million people and the enslavement of at least that number, was obsessively kind to animals and his five children.

He would have no moral qualms about ordering the gassing of child inmates of his camp, but in his garden he would play hide-and-seek with his five children and recited poetry to them.
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Shocking: The book contains the memories of Polish maids who once served the SS officers at Auschwitz. Here Hoess (centre) socialises with (left) Dr Josef Mengele and (right) Josef Kramer (Commandant of Birkenau concentration camp)

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Relaxing: Enjoying a cigarette, Hoess does not display a hint of guilt or concern, despite regularly sending thousands to their death

Maid Janina Szczurek, 32, said; 'He tucked his children into bed every night and he kissed his wife each morning. He wrote poems about the 'beauty of Auschwitz.'

'On one occasion, the children came to me and asked me to sew bands with signs for them, just like the ones worn by the prisoners. I was not aware of what the consequences would be from this.



'Klaus put a 'capo [trusty]' band on his sleeve, and the other children had the coloured triangle sewn to their clothing.

'The happy children, running around the garden, met their father, who noticed the signs and took them into the house. I don't know what happened but he was not pleased.'

Included among the stories are those of Hoess's deputy Karl Fritsch and Gerhard Palitzsch who personally killed hundreds of prisoners at the Wall of Death - the execution site where inmates were murdered.

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Horror: The main gate of Auschwitz concentration camp in Poland, which was liberated by the Russians, in January 1945. The sign over the gate reads: 'Arbeit macht frei' (Work Sets You Free)

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Revelations: Gerhard Palitzsch (right) carried out executions of prisoners by shooting them against a wall in Auschwitz. The book reveals that his wife had numerous affairs

Palitzsch illustrates perfectly the duality of the lives of the SS at Auschwitz.

At the wall of death he beat prisoners and tormented them before they were killed - while off duty, he was obsessed with being a 'good father' to his children and made them tea and bread.

A portrait of him was supplied by Helena Klysowa, his 19-year-old Polish maid, who testifed to authorities after the war that the Palitzch family 'lived quietly and they loved each other. They didn't receive guests, they didn't organise drinking parties.

'I arrived each day at 8.00 am. I looked after the children. I would go on walks with the girl. When Palitzsch was at home, I could not speak to the prisoners who worked in the house or garden.

'The prisoners themselves warned me against this.They were afraid that he would write down their number and they would die in the camp.
Evil: Dr Horst Fischer (right) with his wife. He was one of the SS doctors responsible for deciding which Jews would live or die when they arrived at Birkenau. After the war he was tried and executed



'I spoke to them anyway and found that the terror of the camp was Palitzsch. I could not believe it. At home, he was a wonderful man, so kind and loving to his children who he gave tea and bread to. He loved his children madly.'

Palitzsch died in 1944 after being transferred to the Russian front.

SS officer Wolfgang Guessgen, who took turns at 'the ramp' selecting those Jews who were to be gassed upon arrival and those who were to be allowed to live as slave labourers, was a cuckolded man whose wife cheated on him at every turn according to the book. He rewarded her with beatings.

Danuta Rzempiel, who was 16 when she worked at his home on the camp periphery, said; 'Mrs. Guessgen was not a faithful wife.

'When he went away somewhere,various SS men would appear at the house, or a trusty prisoner from the locksmith shop who won her favour.

'She was not embarrassed by my presence at all and would lead her guests straight to her bedroom.

'It would happen that Guessgen, upon returning home, would find one of these guests. Then he would order me to go do the laundry or to the basement, and when I returned, the guest would not be in the house.


'Mrs Guessgen was often covered in bruises, so I guessed that it was Mr Guessgen.

'This didn't seen to dissuade her, and she exploited every opportunity. It got to the point that Guessgen shot a certain SS man, and as punishment, he was transferred to Oranienburg, and shortly after from there to the front.'

Other stories feature the domestic lives of doctors who carried out selection processes of Jews and who performed horrific experiments, as well as the day-to-day lives of camp guards and lower SS ranks.

'The purpose of the book is to try and show the lives of SS men objectively,' Mr Setkiewicz told local media.

'Their image has forever been written in dark colours and in the pursuit of objective truth I wanted to view the subject unemotionally,' he said.
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Punishment: Moments before Hoess is executed for his crimes, in Auschwitz




Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2271863/The-kindly-Auschwitz-commander-beat-prisoners-death-went-home-make-dinner-beloved-children.html

Bev
February 2nd, 2013, 11:33 AM
The porcelain toilet that once belonged to Adolf Hitler is now being kept in a back room at a New Jersey car repair shop.

The toilet, pictured in Tablet Magazine, dates back to when the Nazi leader's private yacht was taken to America following Hitler's defeat.

The yacht, named the Aviso Grille, was stripped to pieces in the early 1950s so that it would not become a memorial to the hateful regime, and some of the parts ended up in back rooms of a Florence, New Jersey, junk yard.

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Ancient History: The toilet used by Hitler on his former yacht is now kept in a New Jersey auto repair shop

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Clues: The font used for the handle on the now-defunct sink is the same used by Hitler throughout his reign

At first glance, it may look like any other toilet, but Greg Kohfeldt said there are a few key signs that it did in fact come from the historic ship.


Mr Kohfeldt has owned the toilet for nearly 20 years, ever since he bought the auto repair shop from the widow of Sam Carlani, the previous owner of the shop who bought the toilet from the junk yard after the ship was torn apart.

Though it worked for the first 18 years that he owned the shop, Mr Kohfeldt told MailOnline that it actually stopped working just over a year ago.

Now, rather than sitting in the back bathroom where Mr Kohfeldt used it for years, it is displayed up in the front of the shop where tourists come to visit the unusual attraction.

'It was more of a tourist attraction when it was working,' he said.

'People would come in and want to see it flush and want to use it.

'Now it just kind of sits there. I'm contemplating mounting it back on the wall.'

Like other sea-faring toilets, it has a slot on one of the sides where the seawater would be pumped into.

While it was previously featured in other newspapers and listed as one of the Roadside America attractions for tourists looking for off-the-beaten-path destinations, one place it did not make the cut was British television.

Last year, producers of Channel 4's show Four Rooms flew the toilet, the accompanying sink (which is now in pieces) and Mr Kohfeldt himself over to England for a taping of the show, but because of backlash, the segment never aired.


The lineage of the toilet is well-established: the Aviso Grille was brought to America, parked in New York City at one point, before being bought by shipyard owner Harry Doan.

Tablet Magazine claims that Mr Doan began charging visitors a quarter to board the ship and look around in horror, but that raised questions about the nature of the exhibit. As a result, the ship was broken down and stripped for parts.

Mr Doan then sold the toilet to Mr Carlani who simply needed a commode for his car repair shop. Forty some odd years later, Mr Kohfeldt buys the store and becomes the unintentional owner of a Hitler artifact.


'I called it a functioning tourist attraction,' he said, as it piqued the interest of college students from Massachusetts to British sightseers who visited during a cross-country roadtrip.

Though his name suggests that he comes from German and Eastern European stock, Mr Kohfeldt says that he has no connection to the grim context of the piece.

'I have no attachment to this toilet,' he told MailOnline.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2271666/Hitlers-toilet-used-Nazi-leaders-throne-private-yacht-new-home--New-Jersey-car-repair-shop.html

Englisc
February 3rd, 2013, 04:13 AM
Re: That SS story

The typical amount of contradictions. There is seemingly no evidence within the book that any of the mass murders truly took place- infact al there is is evidence that the "death camp commandments" were fairly normal people.

Henry.
February 3rd, 2013, 04:55 AM
'Klaus put a 'capo [trusty]' band on his sleeve, and the other children had the coloured triangle sewn to their clothing.Trust the Mail.....I think trustee is the correct word in this instance....

Bev
February 3rd, 2013, 09:02 AM
The step-grandchildren of Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels share a fortune worth at least £3.8billion from their family's wartime industrial success, it has been revealed.

Four sisters and the two children of a deceased sibling are worth around £760million each, according to an investigation by Bloomberg.

The family's wealthy history can be traced to two men who owed their success to the rise of the Nazi party - Joseph Goebbels and a businessman named Guenther Quandt.

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Joseph Goebbels with his wife Magda and their children, Helga, Hildegard, Helmut, Hedwig, Holdine and Heidrun, 1942. Harald Quandt, his step-son, is in uniform at the back of the photo

Both were married at different times to Magda Ritschel.

Harald Quant - the only surviving son from Magda's first marriage - joined the German Luftwaffe during the Second World War and was being held as a prisoner by Allied forces in the Libya when he received a farewell letter from his mother and step-father Joseph Goebbels.



The pair committed suicide alongside their six children on May 1, 1945 in Hitler's bunker.

He and his half-brother Herbert inherited their father's empire which produced Mauser firearms and anti-aircraft missiles for the Third Reich's war machine.

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THE 'POISON DWARF' - PROPAGANDA MINISTER JOSEPH GOEBBELS
Goebbels

Joseph Goebbels was one of the most important and influential people in Nazi Germany.

Hitler put him in charge of the party's propaganda machine in 1929 and he played a key role in implementing the dictator's agenda.

His limp and sharp tongue earned him the nickname among some as the 'Poison Dwarf'.

He organized attacks against Jews, banned them from the world of the arts and media, censored the news and supported Nazi propaganda films.

As the Second World War turned in favour of the Allies, he increased his propaganda in order to convince the German people of the idea of 'total war' and mobilization.

Goebbels killed himself and his wife, and their six children biological children with cyanide capsules the day after Hitler in 1945.

The half-brothers passed away decades ago, but their financial success has endured.

Herbert’s widow, Johanna Quandt, 86, and their children Susanne Klatten and Stefan Quandt, have remained in the public eye as BMW shareholders.

The billionaire daughters of Harald Quandt - Katarina Geller-Herr, 61, Gabriele Quandt, 60, Anette-Angelika May-Thies, 58, and 50-year-old Colleen-Bettina Rosenblat-Mo -- have kept a lower profile.


The four sisters inherited about 1.5 billion deutsche marks (£483 million) after the death of their mother, Inge, in 1978, according to the family’s official biography, 'Die Quandts'.

They manage their wealth through the Harald Quandt Holding GmbH, a family investment company and trust named after their father.

Fritz Becker, the chief executive officer of the family entities, told Bloomberg: 'The family wants to stay private and that is an acceptable situation for me.

'We invest our money globally and if it’s $1 billion, $500 million or $3 billion, who cares?'

The Quandt family fortune can be traced to Germany's involvement in both world wars.

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Adolf Hitler with his propaganda minister Jospeh Goebbels, his wife Magda, and three of their children in 1938

Emil which made military uniforms in the First World War.

After his first wife died from Spanish flu he married Magda Ritschel in 1921 and the couple had their only son Harald.

They divorced in 1929 and two years later she married Jospeh Goebbels, a member of the German parliament and rising star in the Nazi party.

After the Nazis took power in 1933, their leader, Adolf Hitler, appointed Goebbels as the Third Reich’s propaganda minister. Hitler was the best man at the couple’s wedding.

Guenther Quandt joined the party that same year. His factories became key suppliers to the German war effort, even though his relationship with Goebbels had become increasingly strained.

'There was constant rivalry,' said Bonn-based history professor Joachim Scholtyseck, author of a family-commissioned study about their involvement with the Third Reich, in a telephone interview with Bloomberg.

'It didn’t matter that Goebbels didn’t like him. It didn’t have any influence on Quandt’s ability to make money.'

From 1940 to 1945, the Quandt family factories were staffed with more than 50,000 forced civilian laborers, prisoners of war and concentration camp workers, according to Scholtyseck’s 1,183-page study.

The report was commissioned by the family in 2007 after German television aired the documentary 'The Silence of the Quandts,' a critical look at their wartime activities.

According to 'Die Quandts' the siblings try to get together a few times a year to discuss their investments.

After Scholtyseck’s study was published in 2011, cousins Gabriele and Stefan Quandt acknowledged their family’s ties and involvement with the Third Reich in an interview with Germany’s Die Zeit newspaper.

'Magda killed her six children in the Fuehrerbunker. Our father loved his half-siblings very much. And when, like me, you have something like this in your family history, you think: It can’t be any worse,' Gabriele Quandt said in the interview.

'It’s a sad truth that forced laborers died in Quandt companies,' said Stefan.

'They have to live with the name. It’s part of the history,' said Scholtyseck. 'It will be a constant reminder of dictatorship and the challenges that families have to face'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272438/Step-grandchildren-Nazi-propaganda-minister-Goebbels-worth-billions-inheriting-industrial-fortune.html

Bev
February 3rd, 2013, 09:04 AM
A Polish war hero with an incredible story of survival during World War Two has died aged 91.

Flight Lieutenant Czeslaw 'Tony' Rogers braved a 830-mile trek on foot across the Soviet Union's frozen wastes to India after being freed from a prison camp before eventually making it to Britain.

He then became a decorated Spitfire and Lancaster bomber pilot who flew daring RAF missions against targets in Germany.

Lt Rogers, who adopted the English surname of his screen heroes Roy and Ginger, had fought in 1939 when his native country became a target for oppression following the non-aggression pact between Hitler and Stalin.

The German Luftwaffe decimated the Polish air fleet and pilots like Lt Rogers were handed machine guns and told to fight on the ground - against German forces invading from the west and Russian soldiers from the east.

Lt Rogers was then taken prisoner by the Russians and sent to a gulag in Siberia.

Best friend Gordon Scott-Whale, 85, of Fairford, Gloucestershire, recalled: 'In Krakow Tony told me he and his comrades hid inside graves at a cemetery.

'Can you imagine firing at Russian tanks from inside a grave? One of his friends was killed but Tony escaped and managed to make it back to his village.'

He was later arrested by the NKVD secret police and sentenced to 25 years imprisonment, deported in a cattle truck which took three days to reach a prison camp in Siberia.

Mr Scott-Whale said: 'There were women and children in the trucks and whenever a child died en-route they just had to throw their body out into the snow.'

Following Hitler's invasion of Russia in 1941, Stalin allied with Britain and America against the Germans. Prime Minister Winston Churchill requested the release of Polish nationals from Siberia - and Lt Rogers was one of them.




Remembering what his friend had told him about escaping from the gulag, Mr Scott-Whale said: 'They opened the gates of the camp and told them to go.

'At first they thought it was some trick and that they'd go out and get shot. But off they went in groups of ten, on specially made sledges.

'In Tony's group only he and another airman survived, the others just collapsed in the snow.

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Lt Rogers won the RAF Air Crew Europe Star, the Defence Medal and the highest accolade of Polish medals, the Virtuti Militari


'But Tony and his companion trekked 830 miles on foot before they could smuggle themselves onto a train heading south, and they finally make it to India, from where he got passage to Britain.'

Once in England, with his new Anglicised name, Lt Rogers met Nan, a WAF driver, who would become his wife and mother of their two children.

During the rest of the war he flew Spitfires for the RAF before being drafted into Bomber Command to fly the Lancaster because of his experience in Poland of flying twin engine aircraft.


He was in 138 squadron Special Operations (Moonlight Squadron) in the B Flight, based out of RAF Tempsford in Cambridgeshire.

In 1944 he flew a supply mission into Warsaw – in a Halifax or a Stirling – flying low to parachute down supplies including arms, explosives and radio sets at a place where lights flashed to indicate underground members.

German fighters were waiting for the planes to rise but they kept at low level, but many crews were lost and the missions were stopped afterwards for being too risky.
BATTLE-HARDENED POLISH PILOTS WERE MOST EXPERIENCED IN RAF

Following the German invasion of Poland, many Polish pilots - a great number of whom had fought the Luftwaffe - escaped and made their way to France and Britain.

In June 1940 the Polish Government in Exile formed a Polish Air Force in the UK, with two fighter squadrons - 302 and 303 - composed of Polish pilots and ground crews, with British commanding officers.

The two fighter squadrons went into action in August.

Most of the Polish pilots had hundreds of hours of pre-war flying experience and were among the most experienced in the battle.

They had learned from combat experience to fire from close range.

Between them the Polish pilots claimed 201 aircraft shot down. 303 Squadron, in which Brigadier General Tadeusz Sawicz served, claimed the highest number of kills - 126 - of all Allied squadrons in the Battle of Britain.

The Polish War Memorial on the outskirts of RAF Northolt was dedicated in 1948 as a commemoration of the Polish contribution to Allied arms.

Lt Rogers continued to serve in Bomber Command flying Lancasters, until his retirement from the RAF in 1948.

His service log books highlight 12,000 flying hours in a variety of aircraft types: Spitfires, Lancasters, Wellingtons and after war ended Meteor jets.

Before the war, Lt Rogers had originally wanted to become a doctor in 1930s Poland, but was attracted to a career flying aeroplanes by a friend of his brother, who was part of the pre-war programme to strengthen the Polish Air Force.

In the early 1950s Lt Rogers and his family moved to Singapore, where he was the personal pilot to General Sir Gerald Templer, British High Commissioner in Malaya during the Communist insurgency.

Mr Scott-Whale said: 'Tony would fly light aircraft such as the Auster to spot terrorist activity in the Malayan jungle so that the ground troops could move in and flush them out.'

Lt Rogers won the RAF Air Crew Europe Star, the Defence Medal and the highest accolade of Polish medals, the Virtuti Militari.

Gordon commented: 'In later life Tony would always be guest of honour at Battle of Britain memorial dinners at RAF Brize Norton, and sit at the top table with the Commanding Officer.

'He also met the Duke of Kent in 2002 at Fairford Air Tattoo, and last year met the Queen in London at the unveiling of the bomber command memorial.'

Lt Rogers was eventually immobilised by a stroke and the RAF Benevolent Fund stepped in to provide a mobility scooter.

He was so inspired by this that he went on to become a keen supporter of the RAF Benevolent Fund.

In memory of his friend Gordon said: 'There are not so many of these chaps left now. Tony was a perfect friend and a wonderful man. I hope his story is not going to be forgotten.'

Lt Rogers passed away on January 15 at Hyperion Nursing Home in Fairford, Gloucestershire.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272393/Pilot-survived-Russian-gulag-making-Britain-fly-Spitfires-RAF-WW2-laid-rest-aged-91.html

Henry.
February 3rd, 2013, 09:34 AM
Following Hitler's invasion of Russia in 1941, Stalin allied with Britain and America against the Germans. Prime Minister Winston Churchill requested the release of Polish nationals from Siberia - and Lt Rogers was one of them.More bollocks from the Mail.

Stalin wrote and offered Churchill the Poles and the offer came out of the blue.

It's described by Churchill in his wartime diaries.

Bev
February 3rd, 2013, 09:37 AM
More bollocks from the Mail.

Stalin wrote and offered Churchill the Poles and the offer came out of the blue.

It's described by Churchill in his wartime diaries.

I suspected that was the actual truth but wasn't 100% sure without checking.

Henry.
February 3rd, 2013, 11:14 AM
I suspected that was the actual truth but wasn't 100% sure without checking.
I suspected that was the actual truth but wasn't 100% sure without checking.
General Sikorsky who was based in Britain and headed the tiny Polish Brigade was told by the British to trust the Soviets and come to terms with them re: the formation of a Polish Army from the thousands of Polish nationals in Soviet prison camps.

Following difficult negotiations an agreement was reached on July 30 1941, and the Soviet-Polish pact was signed. This agreement provided for the restoration of diplomatic relations with a Polish army being formed on Russian soil and ''subordinated to the supreme command of the Soviet Government''.*

* Winston S. Churchill: The Second World War, volume III, The Grand Alliance, p.314.

Now in volume four Churchill writes a longish letter to Stalin dated July 17, 1942, almost one year after the Soviet-Polish Agreement mentioned above.

I hate copy typing but here goes:

This is the relevant part of the letter:

Churchill to Stalin, July 17. 1942.

"....I am sure it would be in our common interest, Premier Stalin, to have the three divisions of Poles you so kindly offered join their compatriots in Palestine, where we can arm them fully. These would play a most important part in future fighting, as well as keeping the Turks in good heart by the sense of growing numbers to the southward. I hope this project of yours, which we greatly value, will not fall to the ground on account of the Poles wanting to bring with the troops a considerable mass of their woman and children, who are largely dependent on the rations of the Polish soldiers. The feeding of their dependants will be a considerable burden to us. We think it well worthwhile bearing that burden for the sake of forming this Polish army, which will be used faithfully for our common advantage. We are very hard up for food ourselves in the Levant area, but there is enough in India if we can bring it [from] there.*

Winston S. Churchill: The Second World War, volume IV, The Hinge of Fate, p. 221.

* The following year (1943) Churchill caused one to three million people (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/7991820/Winston-Churchill-blamed-for-1m-deaths-in-India-famine.html)to die of starvation in India

I've always suspected that the great majority of these ''Poles'' were in fact Jews because Stalin offered then for fighting in the Middle East and their families were to go with them...I mean why would Roman Catholic Poles want to move with their families to secure the Middle East? Only Jews would be interested in that region: especially as Churchill points out they would be joining ''their compatriots in Palestine'' http://img1.vnnforum.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Bev
February 8th, 2013, 07:30 AM
Tensions between Russia and Japan have intensified after two Russian warplanes were allegedly spotted flying over Japanese territory.

Japan scrambled its own fighter jets in response, claiming the Russian Su-37 planes had entered its air space off the northern tip of Hokkaido island in the South China Sea.

Russia denied any border violation, but Japanese Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera said that Tokyo will deal with yesterday's incident 'strictly, within the bounds of international law.' Japan released a picture of one of the Russian jets it claims made the incursion.



Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe delivers his speech during a national rally marking the Northern Territories Day in Tokyo Thursday, Feb. 7, 2013.



People offer silent prayers during a national meeting to demand the return of what Japan calls the Northern Territories, seized by Russia in the closing days of WWII and called the Kurils in Russia.



Mr Onodera accused the Russian fighter jets of intruding into Japanese air space, heightening regional tensions as Beijing denied Tokyo's claims that Chinese naval vessels had locked their weapons-targeting radar on to a Japanese destroyer last month.



The alleged intrusion, which lasted just over a minute, happened when Japan was observing 'Northern Territories Day,' when it holds annual rallies urging Russia to return a series of islands off eastern Hokkaido captured at the end of World War II.

The islands, called the Southern Kurils in Russia, are 400 kilometers (250 miles) southeast of where the incident took place.

In Beijing meanwhile, China's Defense Ministry issued a statement denying Japanese claims that Chinese naval vessels had locked their radar on to a Japanese destroyer and helicopter in two instances last month in the East China Sea.



The countries are embroiled in a territorial spat over a cluster over tiny, uninhabited islands - called Senkaku in Japanese and Diaoyu in Chinese - in the vicinity that are controlled by Japan but also claimed by China and Taiwan.

'The Japanese so-called claims that the Chinese navy locked on to Japanese ships and aircraft with fire control radar are not factual,' the Chinese statement said. It also accused Japan of repeatedly fabricating reports to smear China over the normal training actions of its military and building China up into an international threat.

'The Chinese side wishes that the Japanese side take practical actions, cease creating a tense atmosphere in the East China Sea, and refrain from issuing irresponsible statements,' it said.


Japanese Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida rejected Beijing's denial as 'completely unacceptable.' He told reporters that a thorough review of data by the Defense Ministry confirmed that the Chinese naval ship had locked on with its weapons targeting radar.

The US Navy has said that Chinese ships have in the past switched on their fire control radar as a response to being hailed by US ships. Experts say this underlines the need for better communication and coordination between navies.

The verbal back-and-forth comes amid the rise of China and to a lesser extent Russia's re-emergence as a major power in Asia - but it does not point to an imminent military conflict, said Narushige Michishita, a security expert at the National Graduate Institute for Policy Studies in Tokyo.

'That's been encouraging them to be more assertive and more active both on the diplomatic front and military front in this region,' he said.

China and Russia may also be trying to test Japan's new prime minister, Shinzo Abe, who has a reputation as a staunch nationalist and came to office late last year pledging to defend Japan's sovereignty and to get tough with its neighbours in territorial disputes.

'In the short run, this is happening I think partly in reaction to Mr Abe's return to office,' Mr Michishita said.

While a conflict between Japan and Russia is much less likely than with China, Russia's alleged flight intrusion may be trying to send a signal to Tokyo not to take them lightly, he said.

That the incident took place on a day when Japan was demanding the return of Russian-controlled islands seems intentional, he added.


Russian 'military operations and diplomatic intentions are pretty well coordinated,' he said. Photos of the Russian jets provided by Japan's military indicate that Japanese fighters got relatively close.

When a Japanese fighter aircraft scrambles towards foreign aircraft, it usually maintains a 2,000 feet distance to avoid possible collisions, Mr Michishita said.

Collisions can happen. In 2001, a Chinese fighter collided with a US Navy EP-3 flying about 60 miles from the southern Chinese island of Hainan.

The Chinese jet crashed, killing the pilot, and the US plane was forced to make an emergency landing on Hainan, where the 24 crew members were detained and interrogated by Chinese authorities.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2275509/Japan-scrambles-jets-Russian-intrusion-demand-islands-Moscow-seized-WW2.html

Massive WWII headline.

It reminds me of that annoying advert with Kevin Bacon where he manages to relate himself to anything in the world in five moves or less. I sometimes think the DM reporters play that game with themselves. It's astounding how many times they manage to reference WWII. :rolleyes:

Karl Radl
February 8th, 2013, 10:21 AM
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2275509/Japan-scrambles-jets-Russian-intrusion-demand-islands-Moscow-seized-WW2.html

Massive WWII headline.

It reminds me of that annoying advert with Kevin Bacon where he manages to relate himself to anything in the world in five moves or less. I sometimes think the DM reporters play that game with themselves. It's astounding how many times they manage to reference WWII. :rolleyes:

Interesting: the DM is pro-China rather than Japan given the former is a communist (well partly) police state while the other is a fairly free democracy (albeit with corrupt elements at its highest levels) which endorses capitalism wholesale.

Incidentally the islands concerned don't really have anything to do with WWII as far as I know and China doesn't really have a very strong claim to them other than 'we want them and we've got lots of guns!'

Olesia Rhoswen
February 8th, 2013, 10:07 PM
Bev, when you started this thread last year I didn't think it would continue for very long... apparently I was wrong. They sensationalize every single WWII story, many not worthy of print, and fill the rest of the site with complete trash. Easier and cheaper to toss together one of these than to investigate something new, I suppose... and it keeps the fools who read it entertained with familiar phrases ('history's greatest mass murderers,' 'concentration camp,' 'absolute evil,' et cetera) so they don't have to worry their little heads with present day troubles.

Englisc
February 9th, 2013, 03:13 AM
Bev, when you started this thread last year I didn't think it would continue for very long... apparently I was wrong. They sensationalize every single WWII story, many not worthy of print, and fill the rest of the site with complete trash. Easier and cheaper to toss together one of these than to investigate something new, I suppose... and it keeps the fools who read it entertained with familiar phrases ('history's greatest mass murderers,' 'concentration camp,' 'absolute evil,' et cetera) so they don't have to worry their little heads with present day troubles.
Yeserday there was a interesting "voices" article in the Indie. After reviewing the national myths of Stalingrad and Lincoln, she pointed out that Britain too has a national myth of the second world war ; of selective memeory of the "Blitz" (20 times less than the punishment inflicted on Germany), Dunkirk (actually a major defeat) and social solidarity (out of nessecity ; nothing was truly fixed).

Karl Radl
February 9th, 2013, 08:48 AM
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272438/Step-grandchildren-Nazi-propaganda-minister-Goebbels-worth-billions-inheriting-industrial-fortune.html

I didn't see this one and I suppose I should clear up a fairly huge whopper in that article; which could have easily been remedied by actually reading any biography of Joseph Goebbels or his wife (I've read all of them so I know), in that Guenther Quandt was a powerful industrialist before he became aligned to the NSDAP (it is part of why Magda married him) through his close family association with Goebbels.

To be sure he did well out of the Third Reich, but then so did many business magnates who were prepared to work with the Reich and particularly the SS to do what was needed to win the war.

What is the bet that the juden are going to try and sue the Quandt family now for the 'holocaust' nonsense?

Oy vey! The suffering! Oi you goy... give us your dollars!

Oh and as an aside; which the Wail forgets to tell its readers, before she married Quandt: Magda had been in engaged to a Zionist jew, used to wear a Star of David around her neck and wanted to convert to Judaism. Goebbels had the jew concerned assassinated on the beach in Palestine when he came to power (as he was a potential PR and personal disaster for Goebbels).

Martin Simard
February 9th, 2013, 09:04 AM
Yeserday there was a interesting "voices" article in the Indie. After reviewing the national myths of Stalingrad and Lincoln, she pointed out that Britain too has a national myth of the second world war ; of selective memeory of the "Blitz" (20 times less than the punishment inflicted on Germany), Dunkirk (actually a major defeat) and social solidarity (out of nessecity ; nothing was truly fixed).

Everything the average Brit thinks about WWII is wrong--they don't acknowledge that Britain started the war against Germany, they don't acknowledge that Hitler was pro-British and had guaranteed the full independence of Britain and the maintaining of the British Empire in its entirety, and they don't acknowledge that Hitler didn't want to conquer the world. In other words the average Brit lives a huge lie by turning WWII into something it wasn't.

Bev
February 9th, 2013, 01:27 PM
Bev, when you started this thread last year I didn't think it would continue for very long... apparently I was wrong. They sensationalize every single WWII story, many not worthy of print, and fill the rest of the site with complete trash. Easier and cheaper to toss together one of these than to investigate something new, I suppose... and it keeps the fools who read it entertained with familiar phrases ('history's greatest mass murderers,' 'concentration camp,' 'absolute evil,' et cetera) so they don't have to worry their little heads with present day troubles.

I was originally planning on doing it for a month, thinking I was just being a tinfoiler that I seemed to see so many mentions of Hitler and related topics. But when I realised there were so many, I decided to keep up with it (and I know I've missed a good many) and began to notice a pattern that I'm still trying to form a solid conclusion on.

For every story about Israel or a prominent jewish personage doing something objectionable, we seem to get three additions to this thread. Coincidence?

Everything the average Brit thinks about WWII is wrong--they don't acknowledge that Britain started the war against Germany, they don't acknowledge that Hitler was pro-British and had guaranteed the full independence of Britain and the maintaining of the British Empire in its entirety, and they don't acknowledge that Hitler didn't want to conquer the world. In other words the average Brit lives a huge lie by turning WWII into something it wasn't.

When you consider that the average Brit learns nothing about WWII, its architects, causes and so on, and the further education of the average Brit on these issues consists of reading stories such as we have in this thread, it may go some way to explaining the average "two world wars and one world cup" mentality of the typical Brit and even many of the civic nationalists.

If we want to learn the true causes, what books do we read? What programmes do we watch? They all say the same thing.

I didn't see this one and I suppose I should clear up a fairly huge whopper in that article; which could have easily been remedied by actually reading any biography of Joseph Goebbels or his wife (I've read all of them so I know), in that Guenther Quandt was a powerful industrialist before he became aligned to the NSDAP (it is part of why Magda married him) through his close family association with Goebbels.

To be sure he did well out of the Third Reich, but then so did many business magnates who were prepared to work with the Reich and particularly the SS to do what was needed to win the war.

What is the bet that the juden are going to try and sue the Quandt family now for the 'holocaust' nonsense?

Oy vey! The suffering! Oi you goy... give us your dollars!

Oh and as an aside; which the Wail forgets to tell its readers, before she married Quandt: Magda had been in engaged to a Zionist jew, used to wear a Star of David around her neck and wanted to convert to Judaism. Goebbels had the jew concerned assassinated on the beach in Palestine when he came to power (as he was a potential PR and personal disaster for Goebbels).

Your whopper exposé is yet something else I didn't know, which proves my last point perfectly.

Bev
February 9th, 2013, 01:29 PM
For more than two years Margot Woelk had to taste Hitler's food to ensure it was not poisoned.

She feasted on fresh fruit and vegetables including asparagus, peppers and peas, while her fellow Germans were being rationed.

Mrs Woelk, now 95, was one of a dozen women the Fuhrer used to protect himself at his Eastern front HQ known as the Wolf's Lair.



She was taken there in 1942 when she was evacuated from Berlin to the East Prussian village of Gross Partsch - Parcz in modern-day Poland - after her flat was bombed.



Her husband had gone off to the fighting and her mother-in-law offered her a house in the countryside.

But the SS picked her up soon after she arrived and took her to meet the unwilling tasters.

Mrs Woelk told the Times: ''Of course I was afraid. If it [the food] had been poisoned I would not be here today. We were forced to eat it, we had no choice.

'Between 11 and 12 o'clock, we had to taste the food, and only after all 15 of us had tried it was it was driven to the headquarters by the SS.

'It was all vegetarian, the most delicious fresh things, from asparagus to peppers and peas, served with rice, and salads. It was all arranged on one plate, just as it was served to him.'

She did not recall tasting any meat or fish and did not have to try out drinks.

There was always an hour's delay before Hitler tucked into his meal so that any effects of the food on the women could be seen.

Mrs Woelk had to report every day, but was only used when Hitler's personal train was in the station.

She lived with her mother-in-law outside the HQ until the unsuccessful assassination attempt on Hitler's life by Claus von Stauffenberg with a briefcase bomb in July 1944.


From that moment she was confined to a school building and could only see her mother-in-law at weekends watched by the SS.

When Hitler abandoned the lair after 800 days in November 1944, a senior officer helped her escape back to Berlin by smuggling her on board Joseph Goebbels' train.

She believes the other tasters were shot by the advancing Russians.

In 1946 she was reunited with her husband who she had presumed dead. The couple lived together until he died in 1990.


video/pics on link

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276038/I-Hitlers-food-taster-Margot-Woelk-tells-forced-eat-Fuhrers-vegetarian-meals-make-sure-werent-poisoned.html

Bev
February 9th, 2013, 02:02 PM
from the above story:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/09/article-2276038-17728637000005DC-61_632x338.jpg

Anyone want to make a guess at the caption? :rolleyes:

Eating: Hitler with his mistress Eva Braun. Every meal the dictator had was tasted to make sure he was not poisoned


Derogatory "mistress" again. Not wife or fiancee, but mistress.

Kajtimar
February 9th, 2013, 02:03 PM
from the above story:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/09/article-2276038-17728637000005DC-61_632x338.jpg

Anyone want to make a guess at the caption? :rolleyes:



Derogatory "mistress" again. Not wife or fiancee, but mistress.
Hitler married few days before his death, so what's the problem?

Englisc
February 9th, 2013, 02:09 PM
Hitler married few days before his death, so what's the problem?
The problem is, as covered earlier in the thread IIRC, the word "mistress" is used to desribe the girlfriend of a already-married man. Hitler was only with Eva though, no other woman.

Bev
February 9th, 2013, 02:10 PM
Oh, ffs! This is bad even for the DM! :rofl

The pic of Hitler with other officers is captioned:

Dining: Adolf Hitler sitting down with German officers in 1945

The pic bears a stamp "Alamy" - going to that site, we find:

Hitler, Adolf, 20. 4.1889 - 30. 4.1945, German politician (NSDAP), Fuehrer and Reich Chancellor since 1933, scene, with Joseph Goebbels, eating hotpot, propaganda photo, 1930s, Third Reich, Germany, "Volksgemeinschaft", dining room, stew, food, historic,

( Go to http://www.alamy.com/search/ImageResults.aspx?qf=1&qt=hitler and put "hitler eating" in the search box to see the original. Click it to see the text. )

Bev
February 9th, 2013, 02:13 PM
Hitler married few days before his death, so what's the problem?

As Englisc said, "mistress" means the girlfriend of a married man. Eva was not his mistress. Hitler was not married to anyone else. She was his girlfriend, companion, fiancee or wife.

"Mistress", to the British readers this paper caters for, conjures a sleazy arrangement by seedy little cheating men and women.

Kajtimar
February 9th, 2013, 02:15 PM
The problem is, as covered earlier in the thread IIRC, the word "mistress" is used to desribe the girlfriend of a already-married man. Hitler was only with Eva though, no other woman.

Thanks for clarification. What about his niece though?

Bev
February 9th, 2013, 02:17 PM
Thanks for clarification. What about his niece though?

There is no evidence that he had any sort of romantic interest in his niece. It's all speculation.


Even if he had had, he wasn't married to her as the time he saw Eva so it still would not have been the right word to use.

Karl Radl
February 9th, 2013, 03:12 PM
Thanks for clarification. What about his niece though?

His niece; Geli Raubel, shot herself in all likelihood, because she loved Hitler more than he loved her. Most of the rest is wartime/anti-German hysteria counter-spin as far as I can work out.

The 'paedo Hitler' theme is an old one that was first given life in late Kampfzeit period (i.e. 1931-1934), which was given credence primarily because it was one of the few sticks people could find to credibly beat Hitler without sounding parochial, a bawling Bolshie or a tin-foiler. Why do you think so many historians; academic and lay, have spent so much time digging up any kind of faeces they can throw at Hitler: I mean for heaven's sake they've been through his personal library declaring him to 'obsessed with the occult' (complete cosh even on the so-called reasoning they provide) and they've recently been taking pops at his war record (suggesting that a message runner 'wasn't brave' and that 'Hitler was a physical coward').

Basically as of 1933/1934 with the mass emigration of social deviants, subversives and various combinations of the two: the 'paedo Hitler' theme came to Anglophone literature brought by these emigres and; like the idea that the NSDAP started the Reichstag Fire (thought up by the Communist propaganda tsar; Willi Muenzenberg, in Paris), it became a central part of the 'evil Hitler' myth in popular literature, newspapers, cinema and theatre.

Englisc
February 10th, 2013, 03:52 AM
Thanks for clarification. What about his niece though?
I don't know about the niece, but I've never seen allegations that Der Fuehrer was anything other than monogamous with Eva.

Bev
February 10th, 2013, 05:37 AM
Couple of slightly-related offerings from the DM that don't seem worth a thread on their own:

After his self-imposed silence of the past decade, suddenly David Bowie fans are spoiled for choice.

Not only do we have David’s first new music for what seems like an age, but also a major retrospective exhibition opening next month at London’s V&A.

But as I listen to his new single Where Are We Now? I can’t help but wonder what happened to the musical innovator. I’m not trying to be unkind, but I can’t escape the feeling that the retro-introspective mood of the song has one message – ‘I’m not going to be here much longer, let’s talk about the past.’


There’s nothing about the sound that’s new, either. The subject matter is tired – it’s a nostalgic look back to the last time he was at the forefront of pop music.

And, worst of all, the record romanticises and mythologises a period of David’s career I recall with distaste. What I remember of Berlin – where David lived for three years in the late Seventies – is lots of sitting around nightclubs, with David pretending he was an extra from Cabaret witnessing the rise of the Nazis.

His life then seemed to be all about Romy Haag, the transsexual cabaret singer then making a name for herself as a modern-day Sally Bowles.



To his fans, David was just being another of his characters. But I suspect the main audience for this latest performance was me.

Our marriage was over. My father had fought in the Second World War and David knew that I would have no truck with fascism.

David always pushed the boundaries and I think that by flirting with Nazi Germany, he was – if only subconsciously – pushing me past the limits of what I considered acceptable.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2276337/David-Bowie-Ex-wifes-deeply-personal-critique-star-NOT-want-read.html


A Tory-supporting peer has been forced to apologise after making a joke about Auschwitz at a glittering party function attended by David Cameron.

Lord Dalmeny, chairman of auctioneers Sotheby’s UK, has now admitted his comment about the concentration camp was ‘horrific’.

Guests at last week’s Black And White Party at the exclusive Hurlingham Club in London were said to be shocked by the ill-judged remark.

It came as Lord Dalmeny, whose wife Caroline was a Tory Cabinet aide, conducted a fundraising auction.

Sweltering under the lights, he quipped: ‘Turn those horrible lights down – I feel like I am in Auschwitz.’

It was not Lord Dalmeny’s only politically incorrect joke of the evening. Pouring scorn on France’s socialist president Francois Hollande, he referred to the French as ‘frogs’.

And when auctioning the original copy of Mr Cameron’s speech on the EU referendum last month, he said: ‘This is a Gideons Bible for people who do not trust foreigners very much.’

Lord Dalmeny last night apologised for his ‘horrific’ Auschwitz wisecrack.

He said: ‘I’m sorry if anyone was offended. I meant to say “Colditz”. It was a horrific slip of the tongue.’

The Black And White Party is the social highlight of the Tory calendar and one of the party’s main fundraising events. This year’s bash was attended by a raft of Cabinet Ministers, including party chairman Grant Shapps, who is Jewish.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276220/Turn-horrible-lights--I-feel-like-I-Auschwitz-Sothebys-chairman-forced-apologise-concentration-camp-joke-Tory-function.html

Acceptable to joke about Colditz but not about Auschwitz? :rolleyes:

EDLIE Stampton
February 10th, 2013, 06:02 AM
A jew Rothschild has a slip of the tongue and a race mixer had a nazi fetish when he was at his most drug addled while hanging about in Germany with a couple of jews 35 years ago.Fuck me.If it werent for the daily snail we would have no news.Would you believe his ex wife dont like him.:rofl:rofl

Karl Radl
February 10th, 2013, 07:46 AM
If we want to learn the true causes, what books do we read? What programmes do we watch? They all say the same thing.

Then why don't you create them?

Saying 'I can't watch/read anything that doesn't tell me the truth is X, Y and/or Z' is all very well, but unless you are prepared to fill that gap yourself or are filling the gap elsewhere it is kinda self-defeating.

It is not a personal criticism Bev: it is just when people ask that question it sort of annoys me given that it is symptomatic of why British nationalism has failed since the year dot. It is full of proverbial NIMBYs or put more crudely: shit or get off the pot love. :p

Bev
February 10th, 2013, 08:20 AM
Then why don't you create them?

Saying 'I can't watch/read anything that doesn't tell me the truth is X, Y and/or Z' is all very well, but unless you are prepared to fill that gap yourself or are filling the gap elsewhere it is kinda self-defeating.

It is not a personal criticism Bev: it is just when people ask that question it sort of annoys me given that it is symptomatic of why British nationalism has failed since the year dot. It is full of proverbial NIMBYs or put more crudely: shit or get off the pot love. :p

Yes, I know what you're getting at and that sort of question annoys me too; even as I asked it, I was annoyed at myself.

Why I don't personally do it? Because a) I don't have anywhere near enough the knowledge to do such a thing and b) you've seen the opposition I get if I mention well-documented facts of history such as the frankfurters, involvement in porn or the March for Freedom caper. Facts that they themselves admit and brag about are denied to the point of ridiculousness and from people supposedly on our side.

andy
February 10th, 2013, 08:46 AM
Yes, I know what you're getting at and that sort of question annoys me too; even as I asked it, I was annoyed at myself.

Why I don't personally do it? Because a) I don't have anywhere near enough the knowledge to do such a thing and b) you've seen the opposition I get if I mention well-documented facts of history such as the frankfurters, involvement in porn or the March for Freedom caper. Facts that they themselves admit and brag about are denied to the point of ridiculousness and from people supposedly on our side.

The problem here is the cart before the horse.Anyone with a decent reading history of even mainstream history,philosophy,science and politics cannot possibly be a multi racialist or susceptible to diversity propaganda.Surely no man who has read Bacon,Darwin,Nietsche,Carlyle.Even those who have concentrated on leftists such as Orwell or Rousseau only adopt multi racialism as a chosen philosophical path that they believe is "fair".As to the underclass well any of them still harbouring feelings of fellowship and goodwill toward enemy invaders are simple minded to the point of imbecility and their exit from the gene pool is to be encouraged.
Book learning never bought about liberation for anyone particularly the jews. Liberation comes from the barrel of a gun all else is tactics and promoting the deviants self publishing for the movement self evidently does not work as the last four decades prove.
Your belief that such things are unknown to the type former class in society is touchingly naive reminiscent of antifaowens and his cut and paste bucket shop.You are not dealing with proper people,the target audience is more concerned with protecting their welfare benefits than their daughters from grooming gangs.As to "movement" blighters well they are only interested in arguing the toss than achieving anything from disciplined hard work.Look at the supposed "leaders" of British nationalism with their micro parties to spite their only Leader with any political acumen,it's a joke

Bev
February 10th, 2013, 09:29 AM
The problem here is the cart before the horse.Anyone with a decent reading history of even mainstream history,philosophy,science and politics cannot possibly be a multi racialist or susceptible to diversity propaganda.Surely no man who has read Bacon,Darwin,Nietsche,Carlyle.Even those who have concentrated on leftists such as Orwell or Rousseau only adopt multi racialism as a chosen philosophical path that they believe is "fair".As to the underclass well any of them still harbouring feelings of fellowship and goodwill toward enemy invaders are simple minded to the point of imbecility and their exit from the gene pool is to be encouraged.
Book learning never bought about liberation for anyone particularly the jews. Liberation comes from the barrel of a gun all else is tactics and promoting the deviants self publishing for the movement self evidently does not work as the last four decades prove.
Your belief that such things are unknown to the type former class in society is touchingly naive reminiscent of antifaowens and his cut and paste bucket shop.You are not dealing with proper people,the target audience is more concerned with protecting their welfare benefits than their daughters from grooming gangs.As to "movement" blighters well they are only interested in arguing the toss than achieving anything from disciplined hard work.Look at the supposed "leaders" of British nationalism with their micro parties to spite their only Leader with any political acumen,it's a joke

That's a fair statement, but for some reason it doesn't work like that. And that is assuming that people have read those and other authors - many people just have the two mandatory (like myself) or five voluntary years of secondary school history under their belt, and we all know what that is like.

andy
February 10th, 2013, 09:38 AM
That's a fair statement, but for some reason it doesn't work like that. And that is assuming that people have read those and other authors - many people just have the two mandatory (like myself) or five voluntary years of secondary school history under their belt, and we all know what that is like.

Surely those without the natural curiosity of the Aryan to discover and study their own surroundings and society are lost to the race anyway.The deluded slack jawed rube is a hindrance not an asset to the race.I am of the opinion that attending secondary school is the act of a race traitor and should be eschewed by decent Aryans.The standard is so bad one could discover more about the world from a shop doorway begging than in any secondary school in the UK.

Bev
February 10th, 2013, 11:06 AM
There was a story earlier in the DM that was mildly critical of Israel not allowing conjugal visits. Two stories above, along with:

Natalie, who recently completed the Untitled Terrence Malick Project, has two more films in pre-production that will keep her busy for a while.

They include the drama In the Garden of Beasts opposite Tom Hanks about a mild-mannered Chicago professor who becomes America's first ambassador to Hitler's Germany right before the Nazis began to take control over Europe.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2276360/Natalie-Portman-hoists-son-Aleph-shoulders-family-visit-botanical-gardens.html

Q Since when was an actress visiting a garden a news story? A Ever since the DM realised it was possible to get a Hitler mention in there.

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This is not even a story. I shall reproduce the article in its entirety (apart from the video link, which I can't do.)

Colour footage of Hitler at Wolfs Lair in 1945

She feasted on fresh fruit and vegetables including asparagus, peppers and peas while her fellow Germans ate only rations.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/video/colour-footage-of-hitler-at-wolfs-lair-in-1945/video-15561/index.html

Cut off by the Nazis, 340,000 Allied troops were evacuated from northern France during the 'Miracle of Dunkirk' in 1940.

But somehow, James May got left behind.

Undaunted, the 20-year-old soldier stole a car and managed to evade the Germans, eventually finding a skipper six days later to sail him home.

Four years on, he was back - storming the beaches of Normandy as part of Operation Neptune - and lived to tell the tale.

Now aged 93, he has finally been awarded his campaign medals - almost 68 years after peace was declared.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2275699/War-hero-93-FINALLY-honoured-medals-68-years-serving-Dunkirk-D-Day.html

Child abuse in America makes the British news. I wonder why? :confused: :rolleyes:



Their son was covered in his own filth, the bathroom reeked of feces and urine, and food in the refrigerator was molding and rotting.

According to one officer, 'Once the door was open, the putrid smell became overpowering.'

Johnson was not able to walk or talk coherently when the officers arrived. He smelled of alcohol and yelled as the police entered the home.

Koecher was passed out on a bed. Her son was dangerously almost underneath her.



There was an empty bottle of vodka nearby.

Officers initially had difficulty getting Koecher out of bed. Her speech was also slurred.

An inspection of the home revealed a slew of revolting conditions. In addition to dirty laundry and diapers strewn around the house, there were dirty, un-washed pans on the stove and used feminine products in the bathroom.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/07/article-2275072-17694271000005DC-659_634x715.jpg


After being taken to a detox unit, James allegedly uttered an anti-Semitic slur


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2275072/Toddler-taken-putrid-feces-strewn-home-shes-falling-drunk-parents.html


An interview with a Downton Abbey star for the ladies....

The happiest moment you will cherish forever… Leaving Harrow School in 1962 when I was 16. I hated it. Many of the teachers were ex-military bullies.

The saddest time that shook your world… Learning about the Holocaust when I was 12. It shook me to know that such evil was possible.

The unfulfilled ambition that continues to haunt you… To be original as an actor and as a writer.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2275146/I-love-cleaning-shoes-Upstairs-Downstairs-star-Simon-Williams-reveals-unlikely-hobby-explains-hed-like-Pontius-Pilate-supper.html


I make that 7 today.

Is it the Daily Mail or the Daily Hysterical Historical?

Bev
February 10th, 2013, 11:07 AM
Surely those without the natural curiosity of the Aryan to discover and study their own surroundings and society are lost to the race anyway.The deluded slack jawed rube is a hindrance not an asset to the race.I am of the opinion that attending secondary school is the act of a race traitor and should be eschewed by decent Aryans.The standard is so bad one could discover more about the world from a shop doorway begging than in any secondary school in the UK.

I certainly agree that children suffer by attending secondary school but I wouldn't go so far as to say they're race traitors. Educating the parents is key.

Karl Radl
February 10th, 2013, 11:37 AM
Yes, I know what you're getting at and that sort of question annoys me too; even as I asked it, I was annoyed at myself.

Why I don't personally do it? Because a) I don't have anywhere near enough the knowledge to do such a thing and b) you've seen the opposition I get if I mention well-documented facts of history such as the frankfurters, involvement in porn or the March for Freedom caper. Facts that they themselves admit and brag about are denied to the point of ridiculousness and from people supposedly on our side.

Heh: that's not the point though is it Bev?

The point is not that you are opposed (god knows I've been smeared, had fits thrown at me and been a 'Mossad agent' enough times for my opposition to preferred beliefs in relation to things like the Ashkenazim being Khazars, 9/11 not being a Mossad conspiracy and so on) by people who are ostensibly on your side, but more that by creating alternative views by choosing a subject and making it your own: you help to change established non-essential beliefs inside nationalism by pointing out the lunacy or lack of evidence for a particular position.

I remember Revilo Oliver (when he published 'The Jews Love Christianity' in Liberty Bell) was accused by several letter writers to the editor of Liberty Bell of 'obviously being a Talmudic Jew': it kind of grows on you especially after you've been called a 'Jesuit' (by anti-Papist loons), told you are possessed by Satan himself (by one very strange Christian nutter) or it is alleged that you are a Freemason (by a couple of people fairly lately when I pointed out that I am not a believer in 'Masonic plots'). Oh and EG is apparently a 'Mossad honeytrap': go figure. :p

I always remember what a friend of mine told me a few years back: you know you've arrived in nationalism when they start making up stories about you and insulting you personally.

As to not knowing enough: well since when do a lot of writers and documentary makers know very much about their subject matter? Most of them seem to read a couple of books around their subject, decide that's what they need and bung in some human interest and narrative crap to bulk it out.

If you just focused on the Frankfurter angle and worked on that: it would be something if you see my point.

And that is assuming that people have read those and other authors - many people just have the two mandatory (like myself) or five voluntary years of secondary school history under their belt, and we all know what that is like.

Not sure if andy's usual idiotic and barely literate screed was aimed at me [it doesn't say and I just ignore him as it is like listening to a bawling child most of the time], but I thought I should point out that there are always multiple levels of engagement in nationalist politics. If you look at just about any nationalist party; including the current crop of them, then you'll notice that they are always preceded by intellectuals and mid-brow writers/media producers who fashion ideas etc. That leads to the normalization of ideas within a given ideological context, which in turn gives the 'boots on the streets' plenty of material to work with to fashion to a given situation.

It is basic political theory, but there we go.

Incidentally what kind of an idiot would talk about 'violent revolution being the only solution' on the internet when said idiot also believes MI5 are pretty much everywhere. I'll tell you what andy-pandy (who seems more likely to have kissed the boys; rather than the girls, and made them cry but there we go) when you do something beyond rant at Bev about 'devil dogs' and talk shop like a wannabe Lenin: you give me a call alright?

Besides you've no idea who I am, what I do or who the people I associate with are (you'd probably be horrified if you knew the answers to those although Bev on the other hand would probably be delighted): all you know about me is that I've got a brain (unlike your plebian self) and I choose to spend some of my free time writing articles about the jewish question which others can read and use for reference free of charge.

Sometimes I wonder andy: who is brighter? You or Bev's guinea pigs?

I vote the guinea pigs.

Bev
February 10th, 2013, 12:25 PM
Heh: that's not the point though is it Bev?

The point is not that you are opposed (god knows I've been smeared, had fits thrown at me and been a 'Mossad agent' enough times for my opposition to preferred beliefs in relation to things like the Ashkenazim being Khazars, 9/11 not being a Mossad conspiracy and so on) by people who are ostensibly on your side, but more that by creating alternative views by choosing a subject and making it your own: you help to change established non-essential beliefs inside nationalism by pointing out the lunacy or lack of evidence for a particular position.

I remember Revilo Oliver (when he published 'The Jews Love Christianity' in Liberty Bell) was accused by several letter writers to the editor of Liberty Bell of 'obviously being a Talmudic Jew': it kind of grows on you especially after you've been called a 'Jesuit' (by anti-Papist loons), told you are possessed by Satan himself (by one very strange Christian nutter) or it is alleged that you are a Freemason (by a couple of people fairly lately when I pointed out that I am not a believer in 'Masonic plots'). Oh and EG is apparently a 'Mossad honeytrap': go figure. :p

I always remember what a friend of mine told me a few years back: you know you've arrived in nationalism when they start making up stories about you and insulting you personally.

As to not knowing enough: well since when do a lot of writers and documentary makers know very much about their subject matter? Most of them seem to read a couple of books around their subject, decide that's what they need and bung in some human interest and narrative crap to bulk it out.

If you just focused on the Frankfurter angle and worked on that: it would be something if you see my point.


Yes, that's all true, I s'pose. I just hate books that consist of the same old stuff rehashed and bloated with verbiage but I suppose if SLA and Hadding can write books, there's nothing stopping any of us.

"Idiot's Guide to the Frankfurters" - I can see steam coming out of evenly matched ears even as I muse over a suitable title. :rofl


Incidentally, I've been told I am a Satanist/working for Satan ad nauseum. Why they think this is an insult, I don't know. *shrug*


Not sure if andy's usual idiotic and barely literate screed was aimed at me [it doesn't say and I just ignore him as it is like listening to a bawling child most of the time], but I thought I should point out that there are always multiple levels of engagement in nationalist politics. If you look at just about any nationalist party; including the current crop of them, then you'll notice that they are always preceded by intellectuals and mid-brow writers/media producers who fashion ideas etc. That leads to the normalization of ideas within a given ideological context, which in turn gives the 'boots on the streets' plenty of material to work with to fashion to a given situation.

It is basic political theory, but there we go.

Incidentally what kind of an idiot would talk about 'violent revolution being the only solution' on the internet when said idiot also believes MI5 are pretty much everywhere. I'll tell you what andy-pandy (who seems more likely to have kissed the boys; rather than the girls, and made them cry but there we go) when you do something beyond rant at Bev about 'devil dogs' and talk shop like a wannabe Lenin: you give me a call alright?

Besides you've no idea who I am, what I do or who the people I associate with are (you'd probably be horrified if you knew the answers to those although Bev on the other hand would probably be delighted): all you know about me is that I've got a brain (unlike your plebian self) and I choose to spend some of my free time writing articles about the jewish question which others can read and use for reference free of charge.

Sometimes I wonder andy: who is brighter? You or Bev's guinea pigs?

I vote the guinea pigs.

Heh - I think it was aimed at me since you're on his Deviant Ignore List™ for some reason; why, I don't know since I'd have thought that an intellectual like himself (poli. sci degree and all) would be only too delighted to develop his coherent political dialectic with someone other than a <whatever "insult" he's got for me today>.

Basic political theory? His basic political theory is opposing anything remotely sensible (boycotting Israeli produce is classed as weeping and wailing for the arabs, to name just one) and "slotting" anyone that has fallen for marketing or who wasn't born knowing about the machinations of the basement dwellers. That might go down well in one house in the leafy suburb but not in the real world the rest of us live in.

andy
February 10th, 2013, 01:01 PM
What to make of a one woman amen corner for a conceited cunt ? Nothing in the real world that the rest of us live in.Mossad Agent ? Fantasies and a blanket belief that every scumbag became a scumbag because of three yids in a basement is preposterous except on vnnuk of course

Bev
February 10th, 2013, 01:06 PM
What to make of a one woman amen corner for a conceited cunt ? Nothing in the real world that the rest of us live in.Mossad Agent ? Fantasies and a blanket belief that every scumbag became a scumbag because of three yids in a basement is preposterous except on vnnuk of course

Not everyone became a scumbag because of marketing machinations but a good many did. It's undeniable fact. The effects are visible every day. Do you mean to tell me that the eruv-blessed leafy suburb doesn't suffer from chavscum drinkers taking advantage of the 3 for a £1?

Bev
February 10th, 2013, 01:12 PM
Why do you think marketing budgets exist? Why do you think we get papers telling us about the latest "craze"? Because they know that a few marginals will be swayed by the "fact" that "everyone else" is doing it.

Much is made of the floating voter. People convinced that X is bad won't fall for any marketing saying otherwise. People determined to do it will do it anyway. It's the ones in the middle that they're after and once the ones in the middle pick a side, it adds numbers to the "everyone else" until the adamantly against are the minority.

Which is why the DM keeps banging on with all the stories in this thread.

Now I suppose you're going to come back with "if they're so daft enough as to buy adult babygros because Brad Pitt wears one then they should be slotted and are no loss" and I admit that babygro wearers are perhaps a can short of an Aldi special offer but marketing ain't just aimed at the physical goods one can buy.

Karl Radl
February 10th, 2013, 01:14 PM
Yes, that's all true, I s'pose. I just hate books that consist of the same old stuff rehashed and bloated with verbiage

There is no mandate about the length of a book and nor did I say it had to be a book: why not articles or doing the research behind a documentary?

but I suppose if SLA

Didn't he say he merely 'edited'/'published' the material when we questioned him on it?

and Hadding can write books,

Hadding has written a book?

I say it is strange because I've never heard of that one and I am subscribed to just about ever nationalist publisher I can find. It isn't one of those; fairly annoying and generally banal, 'collections of essays' is it?

there's nothing stopping any of us.

True especially since I've already published more than once already (under my real name). :)

"Idiot's Guide to the Frankfurters" - I can see steam coming out of evenly matched ears even as I muse over a suitable title. :rofl

Well to be honest I have actually got part of the notes together for 'The Handbook of the Jewish Question' (basically me reviving Theodor Fritsch's concept).

Incidentally, I've been told I am a Satanist/working for Satan ad nauseum. Why they think this is an insult, I don't know. *shrug*

Doesn't surprise me: most people I call friends or frequent acquaintances have been called one of those things once if not many times.

Heh - I think it was aimed at me since you're on his Deviant Ignore List™ for some reason;

Probably because I have Irish Republican sympathies (having started out life as pro-Unionist) and as I recall we had a fight about it waaaay back when he called EG names and I went for him.

why, I don't know since I'd have thought that an intellectual like himself (poli. sci degree and all)

He's so intellectual that he can't form a coherent sentence you mean... rocket scientist... innit. :p

would be only too delighted to develop his coherent political dialectic with someone other than a <whatever "insult" he's got for me today>.

You would think so, but then Political Science is to Philosophy what Accountancy is to Economics: it is a poor man's substitute. Even my brother (who has a degree in Politics) will admit that even if he claims it doesn't count because he couldn't specialise in Indian politics if he had taken philosophy.

Basic political theory? His basic political theory is opposing anything remotely sensible (boycotting Israeli produce is classed as weeping and wailing for the arabs, to name just one) and "slotting" anyone that has fallen for marketing or who wasn't born knowing about the machinations of the basement dwellers.

It sounds like he's a Daily Wail journalist who occasionally ventures out into the 'extreme' territory of reading the less rabid counter-Jihadi material and the weird shit Naomi Klein publishes. Ooo.. risqué.

That might go down well in one house in the leafy suburb but not in the real world the rest of us live in.

He lives in the suburbs? Blow me: he is a NIMBY. :p

For some reason; and I don't know why, I sort of envision andy as a curtain-twitching middle-aged bespectacled balding chap wearing a drab pullover his mother knitted for him who writes angry letters to the Daily Telegraph accusing them of debasing the English language for using Americanisms in his spare time.

Henry.
February 10th, 2013, 01:35 PM
Hadding has written a book?

I say it is strange because I've never heard of that one and I am subscribed to just about ever nationalist publisher I can find. It isn't one of those; fairly annoying and generally banal, 'collections of essays' is it?
Nah, it's a translation of Gottfried Feder's Das Manifest zur Brechung der Zinsknechtschaft des Geldes
(http://www.amazon.com/Manifesto-Abolition-Enslavement-Gottfried-ebook/dp/B009Q85R32/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1360524882&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=Hadding+scott)

Bev
February 10th, 2013, 01:38 PM
There is no mandate about the length of a book and nor did I say it had to be a book: why not articles or doing the research behind a documentary?


Hmm - articles I could manage.


Didn't he say he merely 'edited'/'published' the material when we questioned him on it?

Is that a polite way of saying "plagiarised"? If so, yes. :p




Hadding has written a book?

I say it is strange because I've never heard of that one and I am subscribed to just about ever nationalist publisher I can find. It isn't one of those; fairly annoying and generally banal, 'collections of essays' is it?

I think it's a Feder translation but I don't know if he's published it yet or what.

True especially since I've already published more than once already (under my real name). :)



Well to be honest I have actually got part of the notes together for 'The Handbook of the Jewish Question' (basically me reviving Theodor Fritsch's concept).


Ha - beaten to it then!

In all seriousness, a few articles on Frankfurtery marketing might be a good idea and would be a lot easier than a book.





Probably because I have Irish Republican sympathies (having started out life as pro-Unionist) and as I recall we had a fight about it waaaay back when he called EG names and I went for him.


Now if that is the case, that is surprising seeing as he attacks me and claims I and others are state directed for being the complete opposite!

In actual fact I'm more of the belief that it's up to those who live there what they want to to do and we should support their choice, likewise the Falklands, but seeing as that renders me pro-Loyalist at the minute, it's another avenue for attack when he can't think up anything else.

He's so intellectual that he can't form a coherent sentence you mean... rocket scientist... innit. :p

I don't know - he managed a perfect sentence once. I can't remember the exact wording but he was trying to insult me by calling me a pencil monitor. It was grammatically perfect.


You would think so, but then Political Science is to Philosophy what Accountancy is to Economics: it is a poor man's substitute. Even my brother (who has a degree in Politics) will admit that even if he claims it doesn't count because he couldn't specialise in Indian politics if he had taken philosophy.


Far be it from me to call anyone a truth stretcher but after the epic denial fit he threw when I mentioned that his favourite magazine Cosmo's Randolph Hearst had stood for public election......

But on the whole, yes.


It sounds like he's a Daily Wail journalist who occasionally ventures out into the 'extreme' territory of reading the less rabid counter-Jihadi material and the weird shit Naomi Klein publishes. Ooo.. risqué.

I believe the DM is his Bible. It caters exactly for people like him.



He lives in the suburbs? Blow me: he is a NIMBY. :p

YES! He is. Exactly right.

For some reason; and I don't know why, I sort of envision andy as a curtain-twitching middle-aged bespectacled balding chap wearing a drab pullover his mother knitted for him who writes angry letters to the Daily Telegraph accusing them of debasing the English language for using Americanisms in his spare time.

You didn't see the fit he threw when I asked him if he was American because he tried to claim I was wrong for spelling "licence" with a C not an S. Other than that, I think you have him dead on. I bet he was gutted when Points of View went off air and he could no longer write enraged letters about the quality of TV programming. :rofl

dunotra
February 10th, 2013, 03:10 PM
The real story of how Ann Franks got captured.

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Adrian Hartley
February 10th, 2013, 04:54 PM
Seems David Bowie's ex-wife is having a go about him "flirting with Nazism", in the 1970's:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2276337/David-Bowie-Ex-wifes-deeply-personal-critique-star-NOT-want-read.html#axzz2KXV7R4a8

Bev
February 11th, 2013, 09:16 AM
New evidence has been unearthed that could restore the reputation of the controversial wartime Pope accused of turning a blind eye to the Holocaust, it was claimed today.

Pius XII has long been vilified as 'Hitler's Pope' because he failed to publicly to condemn the genocide of Europe's Jews.

Now British author Gordon Thomas says he has found extensive material that Vatican insiders believe will reveal the part that the pontiff played in saving lives and opposing Nazism.

Mr Thomas, a Protestant, was given access to previously unpublished Vatican documents and tracked down victims, priests and others who had not told their stories before.

The Pope's Jews, which will be published next month, details how Pius gave his blessing to the establishment of safe houses in the Vatican and Europe's convents and monasteries.

He oversaw a secret operation with code names and fake documents for priests who risked their lives to shelter Jews, some of whom were even made Vatican subjects.

Mr Thomas shows that priests were instructed to issue baptism certificates to hundreds of Jews hidden in Genoa, Rome and elsewhere in Italy.

More than 2,000 Jews in Hungary were given fabricated Vatican documents identifying them as Catholics and a network saved German Jews by bringing them to Rome.

The pope appointed a priest with extensive funds with which to provide food, clothing and medicine. More than 4,000 Jews were hidden in convents and monasteries across Italy.

During and immediately after the war, the pope was considered a Jewish saviour. Jewish leaders – such as Jerusalem's chief rabbi in 1944 – said the people of Israel would never forget what he and his delegates 'are doing for our unfortunate brothers and sisters at the most tragic hour'.

Jewish newspapers in Britain and America echoed that praise, and Hitler branded him 'a Jew lover'.




However, his image turned sour in the 1960s, thanks to Soviet antagonism towards the Vatican and a German play by Rolf Hochhuth, The Deputy, which vilified the pope, accusing him of silence and inaction over the Jews.

It was a trend that intensified with the publication of Hitler's Pope, a book by John Cornwell.

However, as the Vatican's secretary of state before the war, the future pope contributed to the damning 1937 encyclical of Pius XI, With Burning Anxiety, and, as Pius XII he made condemnatory speeches that were widely interpreted at the time – including by Jewish leaders and newspapers – as clear condemnations of Hitler's racial policies.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276781/Has-Pope-Pius-XII-exonerated-Nazi-sympathiser-Author-claims-new-evidence-shows-controversial-pontiff-saved-lives-Holocaust.html

Bev
February 11th, 2013, 10:12 AM
The RAF commander who ordered the controversial fire-bombing of Dresden which killed an estimated 25,000 civilians during World War II said he would do it again in a long lost interview filmed 30 years after the end of the conflict.

Former marshal of the Royal Air Force, Sir Arthur 'Bomber' Harris, gave the green light for the 1945 bombing which reduced the city in Saxony, Germany, to rubble.

The attack was widely criticised because of 'blanket bombing' which hit civilian areas as well as military targets - killing thousands of innocents.

But the newly-discovered interview with Sir Arthur, which was filmed in 1977 and will be aired for the first time on the BBC tonight, shows the RAF chief defending his decision.

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Commander: Air Marshal Arthur 'Bomber' Harris, who planned the majority of the RAF's night raids during World War II, is seen at work in his office

Commander: Air Marshal Arthur 'Bomber' Harris, who planned the majority of the RAF's night raids during World War II, is seen at work in his office

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Casualties: Around 25,000 people were killed by Allied bombers over the course of two night raids on the city of Dresden in Saxony, Germany, in February 1945


And the chief commander of the Bomber Command tells his interviewer, Air Vice Marshal Tony Mason, that he would do it again if he had to.

He said: 'If I had to have the same time again I would do the same again, but I hope I wouldn’t have to.'



Sir Arthur then adds: 'I hope it’s been of some use, for future generations in keeping them out of these riots. It never does anybody any good.'

During the interview, Mason discusses how many felt the Dresden attack was 'a city too far'.

However Harris stood his ground saying: 'The bombers kept over a million fit Germans out of the German army… Manning the anti-aircraft defences; making the ammunition, and doing urgent repairs, especially tradesmen.'

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Reduced to rubble: The 'blanket bombing' of Dresden was widely criticised as civilian areas were hit as well as military targets


Harris also countered the myth that area bombing was his idea - claiming it was already Government policy.

He said: 'I lived in a shower of directives from the day I took over to the last day of war.

'The directive when I took over was that I wasn't to specifically aim at anything unless ordered to do so and to blast the German cities as a whole.'


Mason asked Harris why he was ordered to bomb whole cities rather than specific Nazi targets. In response, Harris said: 'They came to the conclusion that they weren’t hitting very much and they didn’t have very much to hit things with…'

Sir Arthur, who died in 1984 aged 91, refused a peerage because his men were denied a campaign medal.

The Bomber Command, which suffered the highest casualty rate of any British unit, losing 55,573 of its 125,000 men, eventually got a memorial last year.

It was erected despite numerous objections from German politicians.

Bomber Command veteran Doug Radcliffe, 89, who is now secretary of the Bomber Command Association, backed his former commander.

He told the Daily Express: 'Our raids meant there were 10,000 88mm anti-aircraft guns pointing up to the sky instead of at our troops and the Russians.

'Dresden was a major centre for the manufacture of opticals, such as gun sights and binoculars.'

He added: 'After Dresden we lost another 700 bombers, and London was being hit by V2s which nobody could fight against.'

It was initially claimed that up to 250,000 civilians lost their lives in the Dresden bombings but an official report released after the war showed the casualty figure was in fact closer to 25,000.

Over two days and nights in February 1945 British and American bombers turned the city into a sea of flames and rubble.


The victims - mostly women and children - died in savage firestorms whipped up by the intense heat of 2,400 tons of high explosive and 1,500 tons of incendiary bombs.

The newly-found footage will shed more light on Dresden and the actions of the RAF during World War Two.

Professor Richard Aldrich, University of Warwick, said: 'It’s interesting because it’s not done immediately after the second world war, it’s done at a time when there have already been several waves of interpretation about Bomber Command, about Harris himself and so one not only gets his memories which are still clearly quite fresh, but also is commentary on those different interpretations.

'It’s a multi-layered interview and all the more interesting for it.'
HOW THE BOMBER COMMAND CHANGED THE COURSE OF WORLD WAR II
RAF Fighter Command Disbandment Ceremony at Bentley Priory

Sir Arthur Harris was appointed commander-in-chief of The Bomber Command - the unit responsible for defending Britain from aerial attacks and bombing enemy targets - in 1942.

In the early part of the war, the Bomber Command’s raids had little effect.

The bombers only flew at night to reduce the danger of being shot down, but with primitive navigation equipment, this made it difficult to identify and hit a small target.

In 1941, it was decided that The Bomber Command would target entire industrial cities - known as area or blanket bombing.

This policy was endorsed by Churchill and formally adopted in early 1942 as Sir Arthur took the helm of The Bomber Command.

Harris said at the start of the bombing campaign that he was unleashing a whirlwind on Germany.

Working class housing areas were targeted because they had a higher density and firestorms were more likely. This disrupted the German workforce and the Germans capability of producing more weapons.

The plan was highly controversial even before it started, but the Cabinet thought bombing was the only option available to attack Germany directly as a major invasion of the continent was years away. The Soviets were also demanding that the Western Allies do something to relieve the pressure on the Eastern Front.


Dresden was one of the cities targeted with 'area bombings'. Around 25,000 civilians were killed by allied bombs dropped over the course of two days in February 1945.

The tactic has been strongly criticised leading to accusations of war crimes.

The Bomber Command suffered the highest casualty rate of any British unit - losing 55,573 of its 125,000 men.

After opposition from German politicians, a memorial to The Bomber Command was finally unveiled in Green Park, London, last year.


The Arthur Harris interview will be aired on Inside Out on BBC1 West and West Midlands at 7.30pm tonight and on BBC iPlayer.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276944/I-destroyed-Dresden-Bomber-Harris-unrepentant-German-city-raids-30-years-end-World-War-Two.html


Very poor taste here from the DM. :mad: Not even a warning on the article title.

Englisc
February 11th, 2013, 12:46 PM
Ugh, that Harris article and the comments really irritated me. Most people apparently see the murder of 100s of thousands of civillians okay ; yes it was just "total war", wasn't it? We must not reduce ourselves to the levels of barbarians, if that was what the Germans were.

Not only that, the number of civilian Germans killed numbered as much or more as all the American and British casualties combined. It's undoubtable that the bombing took more lives then it saved, not even counting the British airmen casualties. Not only that, the lives taken were mostly women and children.

The bombing barely even affected German war production ; within months, production in Hamburg was back to normal despite 900,000 people leaving. The so called "Blitz spririt" took hold among Germans (and later in North Vietnam) too, raising moral, especially during the Allied advance.

I also doubt that the difficulty of precision bombing excuse is a good one. Before Sept. 1940, German bombing of targets here was generally very precise.

Not to mention the countless cultural treasures lost for all time.

Well I'm English and I'm not afraid to say the area bombing campaign was wrong. A better option would have been precision bombing - or better still, a peace deal with Germany.

Bev
February 12th, 2013, 09:39 AM
Vanished posts moved to here:
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=151604


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A woman has put her life on hold and travelled 3,755 miles from Canada to London to re-create her grandmother's daily life during World War II, outlined in old love letters.

Carly Butler, 28, will follow in the footsteps of her late grandmother Irene Wiebe during the time she was separated from her husband, Carly's grandfather Nick.

Carly was inspired to move from Windsor, Canada, to London's Willesden Green after uncovering a pile of 104 letters and telegrams sent across the Atlantic between English Irene and Canadian soldier Nick.

Every week she will open seven new letters which dictates what she will be doing for the forthcoming week, recreating the life her grandmother lived 67 years ago.

Her grandmother Irene from West Hampstead, London, was a 26-year-old newlywed when she penned the letters to her husband after he was drafted back home.

The couple met at a dance in London in 1943 while Mr Wiebe was on leave, and had known each other for three days when he proposed.

After marrying, the couple spent six months apart as Irene, and hundreds of 'war wives' like her, waited to sail across the Atlantic.

Now, 67 years later to the day, bank teller Carly, who has left her own fiance behind in Canada, opens Irene's letters a week at a time and follows them as precisely as she can.

So far, she has visited her grandmother's birthplace in West Hampstead, recreated a day out to Oxford and watched a film at Marble Arch cinema.

Miss Butler also plans to see the place where her grandmother, who passed away in 1998, worked dismantling enemy aeroplanes.

She even hopes to journey back to Canada on the Queen Mary II - as Irene did all those years ago on the original RMS Queen Mary.

Miss Butler estimates that her six-month homage to her grandparents' love is going to cost her more than £13,000.

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Inspiration: Carly decided to leave Canada for London's Willesden Green after finding a trove of 104 letters in her grandparents' home



The letters were unearthed when Mr Wiebe, now 90, was moving into a care home and the family had to clear out the couple's house.

Miss Butler said: ‘My mum found the letters stashed away in a cupboard and it was amazing as we realised it was grandma's letters.


‘I really think she tucked them away for us to find. I decided not to read all of the letters at once - I think it's fun to keep it a surprise.

‘It's so exciting to think that I am standing in the exact same spot as her, 67 years to the day later.

‘The idea came to me while I was on a leadership course last year, which asked us to think about what you want to do with your life. I wanted to keep my Grandma's memory alive.'

'I really feel when I read the letters that they bring her back to life for me. I can only imagine what she was thinking about the huge life-changing voyage she was about to make.

‘She put all her faith in love and left all her family and friends. But her love for this stranger definitely overcame any fear she might have had.

‘She talks about how excited she is about building a new life and I think it's thrilling what the had to overcome simply to be together.’

While she wrote the letters, Irene was living with her mother, sister and niece in West Hampstead, London.

The longing letters she sent to her new husband cover everything from loving notes to less exciting everyday domestic chores, like sewing elastic into knickers.



After the couple were reunited they were happily married for more than 50 years, working together in a post office and had a son and a daughter and several grandchildren before Irene passed away.

Miss Butler, who is writing a blog and book about her adventure, said: ‘She talks a lot about her family in her letters, reading them is like Grandma is speaking to us from beyond the grave.

‘I only knew her for 14 years and the letters remind me of her and make me giggle.

‘It's really cool to see how similar we were. She's quite cheeky and talks about missing him in the bedroom.'

Miss Butler will leave England on July 19, the same date her grandmother emigrated, to be reunited with her fiance Adam, a teacher.

The modern-day couple are keeping in touch via Skype, email and text messaging.


She writes to him everyday to copy her grandparents' correspondence, as well as telling her 'Grama Irene' about what she's been up to on lifesletter.com.

A video of her story is available to watch via family history site Genes Reunited as part of their Every Family Has a Story campaign.

It has millions of records to help people learn more about their relatives.

Rhoda Breakell, Head of the Genes Reunited, said: ‘We are really pleased Carly has shared her story as part of the Every Family Has a Story campaign.

‘Her trip is inspiring, unusual and it is clear she is really enjoying retracing her grandmother's footsteps.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2277459/Canadian-spends-months-recreating-grandmothers-daily-life-London-based-love-letters-sent-Atlantic-World-War-Two.html


Anything will do, as long as they can tie it into WWII. :rolleyes:

john-connor
February 12th, 2013, 11:28 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2277561/Crime-commissioner-Dr-Rachel-Frosh-tweets-Hitler-picture-calling-people-embrace-inner-Nazism.html Newly elected Tory crime commissioner sparks outcry after Tweeting Hitler picture calling for Socialists to 'embrace their inner Nazism'

Dr Rachel Frosh earns £20,000 a year helping to run Hertfordshire Police
She retweeted a message then was forced to apologise this week
'Dear Socialists embrace your inner Nazism', it said, alongside Hitler imag

Bev
February 14th, 2013, 11:46 AM
A haunting image of a man was captured on Google Earth at the remains of a house in a 'ghost village' bulldozed to make way for an airfield.

Fiona Powell, 38, of Bristol, came across the dark figure when she was scouring aerial views online of Bristol Filton Airfield in South Gloucestershire.

The village of Charlton was destroyed in 1946 so that the airfield in Filton - owned by the Bristol Aeroplane Company, which is now BAE Systems - could be extended for the giant Brabazon airliner.

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Circled: A haunting image of a man was captured on Google Earth at the remains of a house in a ghost village in South Gloucestershire that was bulldozed to make way for an airfield

Circled: A haunting image of a man was captured on Google Earth at the remains of a house in a ghost village in South Gloucestershire that was bulldozed to make way for an airfield

Mother-of-two Ms Powell said: ‘I had recently read about Charlton village and knew that it used to have a pub, a pond, some cottages and farmhouses.

‘I love history and old buildings, and learning more about how Bristol used to be. After reading the book about Charlton, I decided to see if anything was left of the village, or could be seen on Google Earth.

‘I was looking around the Brentry and Pen Park area as it's near where I work, and went on to look at Filton Airfield. I went to the end of the runway and saw the remains of what looked like two old farmhouses.


‘Then suddenly in the right hand corner I noticed the dark figure of a man with a cap on above the site of an old building.

‘It looked quite spooky so I called my husband over. We zoomed in again and again and couldn't believe it.’

She added: ‘I'm not sure what I think about it now. It's definitely a shadow of something and looks like a man. I'm quite open-minded about ghosts and this could be one.


‘If it had been just anywhere in Bristol I wouldn't have found it so interesting, but because it was on the site of an old farmhouse in a village that was abandoned, I thought it was fascinating.

'Suddenly in the right hand corner I noticed the dark figure of a man with a cap on above the site of an old building. It looked quite spooky so I called my husband over. We zoomed in again and again and couldn't believe it'



‘It looks like the figure is looking over a house that once was.’

Charlton once had a manor house, two or three farms, cottages, a church, a pub called the Carpenters Arms, a common and a post office.

The village's 17th-century Manor Farm had once belonged to the influential Cann family, who gave Bristol two Lord Mayors.

And in Victorian times, Charlton Farm was the home of soap manufacturer Christopher Thomas. But most of Charlton's streets and buildings now lie buried under 14ft of soil and tarmac.

Villagers had their homes compulsorily purchased and bulldozed to make way for the huge Brabazon hangar.



But the Brabazon aeroplane, hopelessly overweight and under-powered, was doomed to failure and the project was scrapped in 1953.
FIND THE GHOST FOR YOURSELF

To find the 'ghost' visit Google Earth and type in 'Charlton Road'.

Go to the end of the road to Filton Airfield.

You will see Charlton common mobile homes at the end and just above where there is a square shape, the figure can be seen in the top right-hand corner.

The runway remained but the promised replacement village never materialised and most of the old residents of Charlton moved to Patchway.

It is only now that the airfield has been sold to a London-based property firm, by landlord BAE Systems in a multi-million-pound deal, that houses look set to be built over the runway - and over the remains of the old Charlton village.

Diggers have already moved onto the historic runway after the airfield officially closed to flights in December.

The new village of more than 2,000 homes will revive the area's original name to become Charlton Hayes.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2278635/Image-ghostly-man-spotted-Google-Earth-remains-village.html


Not a WWII story as yet, but give it time. And remember you heard it here first.

Bev
February 15th, 2013, 09:03 AM
A decision by the French government to return artworks looted by the Nazis to two Jewish families could have a knock-on effect for British museums, an expert has said.

The French Ministry of Culture said yesterday that seven works, including three held by the Louvre, were to be returned to descendants of their Jewish owners.

It follows criticism that the French government was dragging its heels over the restitution of stolen masterpieces now hanging in the Louvre and other collections.

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Six of the Austrian industrialist Richard Neumann's 18th century Italian and German paintings were found, including Abraham and The Three Angels by Sebastiano Ricci (pictured). His 82-year-old descendent Tom Selldorff has requested their return

The Arts Council England's senior policy adviser Gerry McQuillan said the Spoliation Advisory Panel, which rules on whether there is a moral case for British museums to return objects, is ready to consider new claims, The Times reported today.

Since 2001, the panel has ruled on 12 cases and approved seven claims.




All were among the crateloads of an estimated 100,000 paintings and antiques, taken from Jewish families after Germany invaded France in 1940.

The seven paintings were destined for the Fuhrermuseum - an unfinished museum that Hitler wanted to build in Linz, Austria, where he grew up.

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Loot: A U.S. soldier stands among thousands of art works stolen by the Nazis and stored in a church at Elligen, Germany, during World War Two

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Database: General Dwight D. Eisenhower inspects some of the stolen art treasures in a salt mine in Merkers, Germany

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'Himmler's hoard': Artworks found on the outskirts of Wewelsburg, Westphalia, where the headquarters of the SS was
RETURNING STOLEN WORKS OF ART TO THEIR RIGHTFUL OWNERS

The Spoliation Advisory Panel was set up by the Department of Culture Media and Sport in April 2000 to help resolve claims of lost cultural property now held in UK national collections.

The panel is chaired by the Rt Hon Sir David Hirst retired Lord Justice of Appeal, and considers claims for the return of objects.

Between 1933 and 1945 the Nazi regime seized many works of art and cultural property in Europe.

These works of art were later sold and resold, some finding their way to museums.

Despite efforts following World War II to return looted and stolen property, many works of art still require restitution.

Public awareness of the extent and significance of Nazi looting (or spoliation) has grown significantly over recent years.

Across the world, Holocaust survivors and the descendants of victims are now attempting to trace and recover works of art that were lost during the Nazi era.

The Declaration of Principles, agreed at the Washington Conference on Holocaust-era Assets in 1998, included the encouragement of heirs to come forward and the need to make information accessible.

Bruno Saunier, deputy director of collections at the French Service of Museums, said the decision to return the artworks was 'quite exceptional'.

'We only restitute one work a year on average,' he told The Times.

It follows a 12-year battle by 82-year-old Tom Selldorff, from Massachusetts, who made a request in 2001 for the paintings that once belonged to his grandfather to be returned.

His is a descendent of Richard Neumann, an Austrian industrialist who moved to France and then sold his collection to pay for his family to flee to Cuba to escape deportation..

Mr Saunier told The Times: 'It was very complicated. We had to go through our archives and the archives of the Neumann collection and piece together the history of these works after they had been sold.'

Six of Mr Neumann's 18th century Italian and German paintings were found, three in the Louvre, the others in regional museums.

They include Portrait of Bartolomeo Ferracina by Alessandro Longhi, Abraham and the Three Angels by Sebastiano Ricci, The Apotheosis of John of Nepomuk by Francois-Charles Palko, The Allegory of Venice by Gaspare Diziani, Saint Francis of Paola by Franceso Salvator Fontebasso and The Miracle of Saint Eligius by Gaetano Gandolfi.

The seventh work, The Halt, by Pieter Jansz van Asch is to go to the descendants of Joesf Wiener, a Czech banker whose collection was taken by the Gestapo before he was deported to Theresienstadt concentration camp, where he was killed in 1942.

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Three paintings held by The Louvre in Paris are among those being returned to their Jewish owners by the French Ministry of Culture

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2279026/French-decision-return-artworks-plundered-Nazis-Jewish-families-knock-effect-British-museums.html

Bev
February 15th, 2013, 09:49 AM
As I flick back through this thread, one thing springs to mind:

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john-connor
February 16th, 2013, 11:27 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2279410/How-seven-dwarfs-Auschwitz-fell-spell-Dr-Death-The-hideous-experiments-carried-Nazi-Josef-Mengele-seven-trusting-brothers-sisters.html How the seven dwarfs of Auschwitz fell under the spell of Dr Death: The hideous experiments carried out by Nazi Josef Mengele on seven trusting brothers and sisters

Bob 88
February 16th, 2013, 12:14 PM
I wonder how much of the loot was sent to America by corrupt GIs ?, apart from paintings and gold bars etc GIs used to barge into German civilian houses and fill their pockets with whatever they wanted.

One episode of 'Pawn Stars' showed a son of a GI taking an ivory pocket sun dial into the shop, he told Rick - who claims that he never buys stolen goods:rolleyes: that his dad had taken it from a German civilians home and they both Laughed!.
After an expert had looked at the dial the seller was paid a fair amount of cash :mad:

MikeTodd
February 16th, 2013, 03:19 PM
I wonder how much of the loot was sent to America by corrupt GIs ?, apart from paintings and gold bars etc GIs used to barge into German civilian houses and fill their pockets with whatever they wanted.

One episode of 'Pawn Stars' showed a son of a GI taking an ivory pocket sun dial into the shop, he told Rick - who claims that he never buys stolen goods:rolleyes: that his dad had taken it from a German civilians home and they both Laughed!.
After an expert had looked at the dial the seller was paid a fair amount of cash :mad:Pawn Stars, is that a pretty good show, Bobby?
What other shows do you like? Auction Hunters?...Storage Wars?...American Pickers?...
Have you ever tried Cajun Pawn Stars? It's like regular Pawn Stars but w/ coonasses.

Bob 88
February 17th, 2013, 03:26 AM
Pawn Stars, is that a pretty good show, Bobby?
What other shows do you like? Auction Hunters?...Storage Wars?...American Pickers?...
Have you ever tried Cajun Pawn Stars? It's like regular Pawn Stars but w/ coonasses.

I sometimes watch Storage Wars, in all the shows you mention the buyers profit from other peoples misfortune!.

You just cannot prevent yourself from replying to my postings jealousy is a terrible thing Toady :rolleyes:

Bev
February 17th, 2013, 04:56 AM
Mind the splinters; it's another barrel-scraper.

Lovers torn apart by the fighting during World War II were photographed saying their goodbyes as they faced an unknown future.

LIFE magazine photographer Alfred Eisenstaedt captured the tender moments soldiers spent with their beloveds before boarding their trains at New York's Pennsylvania Station to serve their country in the global conflict in 1943.

The black and white photographs originally ran in the Valentine's Day issue of LIFE magazine in 1944, as the nation anxiously waited for the return of their loved ones.

Now 69 years after the collection was first unveiled, LIFE.com has republished the romantic photographs by the photojournalist, most noted for his picture of the sailor who kissed a nurse on V-J Day in Times Square in 1945.

'Each goodbye is a drama complete in itself, which Eisenstaedt’s pictures movingly tell,' the original magazine article from 1944 read.

'Sometimes the girl stands with arms around the boys’ waist, hands tightly clasped behind. Another fits her head into the curve of his cheek while tears fall onto his coat. Now and then the boy will take her face between his hands and speak reassuringly. Or if the wait is long they may just stand quietly, not saying anything.'

'The common denominator of all these goodbyes is sadness and tenderness, and complete oblivion for the moment to anything but their own individual heartaches.'

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Embrace: A soldier lovingly pulls his sweetheart close as they share a final moment together before he boards his train

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2279835/Romance-railways-Photographs-tender-farewell-kisses-soldiers-leaving-sweethearts-fight-WWII.html

Bev
February 17th, 2013, 08:42 AM
The family of Cecil Leyland Riding already knew he was a war hero.

He had, after all, been awarded the Military Cross for gallantry during World War Two.

But what they didn't know was the true extent of his exploits, until now - thanks to the contents of a picnic basket found in his attic.

The hamper, full of medals, coded maps, memoirs and photographs, has revealed that Captain Riding was in fact a founding member of the SAS.

The documents show how, just days after D-Day, the 28-year-old was parachuted behind enemy lines into Nazi-occupied France - with a carrier pigeon strapped to his chest.

Among his covert missions was the time he blew up train lines outside of Paris.

Captain Riding described how he often had to pretend to be German to evade the enemy while he sent intelligence back to London.

His incredible stories and the many medals he was awarded for courage and bravery were found in the hamper, along with his uniform, in his home in Dumfries, Galloway after his death.

David Riding, nephew of Captain Riding, said the basket's contents told the real story of the heroism he never spoke of himself.

He said: ‘Cecil never talked about his wartime exploits. I knew he had been awarded the Military Cross but had no idea of the details.

‘After Cecil's death, we found the memorabilia in a trunk in his loft and could piece together the story from what was there.

‘It's amazing what these young men achieved.’

Captain Riding grew up near Lockerbie, working at a factory before moving to Glasgow where he met his wife Janie.

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Celebrated soldier: Captain Riding was awarded the prestigious Military Cross (left), The Star (second from left), The France and Germany Star (third from left), the Defence Medal (second from right) and the War Medal (right)
The real story of heroism: Captain Riding's nephew David Riding said he never spoke of his wartime missions. He said: 'It's amazing what these young men achieved'

The real story of heroism: Captain Riding's nephew David Riding said he never spoke of his wartime missions. He said of his uncle: 'It's amazing what these young men achieved'

When the war broke out, Captain Riding had been working at Garscube House near Glasgow.

The estate was requisitioned by the Ministry of Works for War Use and in 1940 he joined the Coldstream Guards.

A year later he was commissioned into the Highland Light Infantry.



Captain Riding was one of the first 36 members of the Special Air Service (SAS) when it was formed in 1941.

He was parachuted into France just three days after the Normandy Landings in 1944.

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Stories kept silent: Captain Riding never spoke of his incredible story but his family have pieced together his involvement in the war using the contents of the basket which included a collection of maps


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Bravery and courage: The uniform of Captain Riding who parachuted into Nazi-occupied France with a carrier pigeon strapped to his chest just three days after the D-Day landings in 1944

He remained there on special duty behind the enemy lines for three months as part of Operation Gain.

Leading a team of five men, he was responsible for blowing up the Montarges to Paris train line.

His missions were often fraught with danger and he escaped death on two occasions when German troops discovered the SAS camps and obliterated them.

In one of the attacks, his commanding officer and two fellow soldiers were killed.

He was also part of the Allied advance into Germany across the Rhine Frontier in March and April of 1945 and was also involved in Operation Doomsday, part of the liberation of Norway.





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'Gallant services': The basket contained a letter of reference from SAS Col Mayne (left) providing an insight into Captain Riding's success in the army, which included several missions fraught with danger, and a photograph of his army kit (right)

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War tactics: Captain Riding's escape compass, which had four big holes and two smaller ones aligned on a radial line pointing North, was designed this way to save scarce metal

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SAS beret: Captain Riding was one of the first 36 members of the Special Air Service (SAS) when it was formed in 1941

For his service to the war effort, he was awarded five medals for his heroics including the prestigious Military Cross for ‘gallantry during active operations against the enemy’.

He was also awarded The Star, The France and Germany Star, The Defence Medal and the War Medal.

In the basket there was also Captain Riding's escape compass, which had four big holes and two smaller ones aligned on a radial line pointing North, which was designed this way to save scarce metal.

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On a mission: Captain Riding (second from the left) training in Ayrshire for an SAS mission to France in 1944. He he escaped death on two occasions when German troops discovered the SAS camps and obliterated them

A coded silk handkerchief was also among the items found in Captain Riding's attic. Silk handkerchiefs were used by the Allies during WWII for coding and maps for troops and pilots to evade capture.

After finishing his service, Captain Riding returned to Scotland, living near Strathdon, Aberdeenshire before taking up a post with Bombay Burma Trading Company in 1956.

Along with wife Janie, the couple lived in Borneo and Burma for a number of years where he worked in forestry.

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Evading the Nazis: A coded silk handkerchief was also among the items found in Captain Riding's attic. Silk handkerchiefs were used by the Allies during WWII for coding and maps for troops and pilots to evade capture

They returned to Scotland in 1967 and Captain Riding worked for Falkirk District Council as a land valuation officer.

He moved to Dumfries in 1971 and lived there until he died in 1998.

The family have handed the basket into the Dumfries Museum where it has been turned into a major exhibition.

Fiona Wilson, museum officer, said: ‘On first seeing the basket it was clear that this was a fascinating collection, there were so many different objects which fitted together to tell one person's story.

‘The objects that he chose to keep tell us so much about his time in the SAS and what was happening in France and Germany during that period of World War II.

‘Sometimes all that is kept are a soldier's medals but here we have Cecil's personal account of his experiences and so much more.’



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2279222/History-WWII-hero-unlocked-inside-picnic-basket-revealing-founding-members-SAS.html

Bev
February 17th, 2013, 08:46 AM
As powerful beams of light revealed the new arrivals at Auschwitz, the SS guards could scarcely believe their eyes. One by one, seven tiny people were lifted off the train.

Five were women — each no taller than a girl of five, yet wearing make-up and elegant dresses. They looked like painted dolls.

Huddled together in a circle, the seven dwarfs made no attempt to join the teeming mass of passengers being herded up a ramp by soldiers with alsatians straining at the leash.

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The Ovitz family were subjected to gruesome experiments at the hands of Dr Josef Mengele in Auschwitz


Instead, one of the male dwarfs started handing out autographed cards to the guards who surrounded them. After all, it couldn’t hurt for them to know the Lilliput Troupe was famed internationally for its variety shows.

Like most of the Hungarian Jews on the train, which had taken three days to arrive at Auschwitz-Birkenau, the dwarfs had no idea they’d just been deposited in the Nazis’ most notorious extermination camp.

An SS officer strode over and established they were all siblings from the Ovitz family. Immediately, the order went out: Wake the doctor!

It was nearly midnight on Friday, May 19, 1944, and Dr Josef Mengele was asleep in his quarters. All the troopers on duty, however, were well aware of his passion for collecting human ‘freaks’, including hermaphrodites and giants.

A lone dwarf wouldn’t have been sufficient reason to disturb his sleep, but a family — and seven of them — why, it was just like the fairy tale!

They were certainly right about Mengele. When told about the camp’s latest acquisition, the good-looking 34-year-old doctor sprang out of bed.

Meanwhile, the dwarfs watched the rest of the passengers — including their aunts, uncles, cousins and friends — march towards a building with two chimneys that ceaselessly poured out smoke and flames. What was this place — a bakery?



Perla Ovitz, at 23 the youngest dwarf, questioned a Jew in a striped jacket who had helped unload the train. ‘This is no bakery — this is Auschwitz and you’ll soon end up in the ovens, too,’ he told her.

Suddenly, as Perla recounted many decades later, ‘each flame looked like a human being, flying up and dissolving in the air. We went numb, then started thinking about the unknown man we were waiting for — if this was a graveyard, then what was a doctor doing here?’

Had he been asked, Mengele would have said he was conducting important genetic research that might one day lead to a professorship.

To that end, he felt no compunction about torturing, maiming and often killing his unlimited supply of human specimens. His enthusiasm, ambition and cruelty set him apart even from the other death-camp doctors.

One of his first jobs had been to deal with a typhus epidemic in the female camp — a problem he solved by sending an entire barrack of 498 women to the gas chambers.

It was also his idea to kill families of gypsies for the sake of their eyeballs, which were extracted for research.

To the Ovitz family, though, a doctor represented hope. So as soon as Mengele arrived, they crowded around him, answering his questions eagerly in chorus.

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Nazi Dr. Josef Mengele carried out horrific experiments

His excitement mounted as they recounted their family history: their father Rabbi Shimshon Eizik, a dwarf, had been married twice to tall women, who gave birth to seven dwarfs and three conventionally sized siblings.

‘I now have work for 20 years,’ he exclaimed joyfully.

Mengele whispered orders to the officer in charge. Remarkably, not only were the seven dwarfs, their two normal-sized sisters, sister-in-law and two of their children saved from the gas chamber that night, but so were the families of their handyman and neighbour — who insisted they were close relatives. In total: 22 people.

Only three hours had passed since the arrival of their train and most of the passengers — 3,100 out of 3,500 — were already dead. The dwarfs were lifted on to a truck and driven away.

Theirs was to become one of the most extraordinary survival stories of World War II. But it would be many years before it was told, after extensive research and interviews with Perla Ovitz and other camp survivors.

Unusually, the heads of the Lilliput Troupe were not shaven and they were allowed to keep their own clothes. Simon Slomowitz, the handyman, lifted them on to their wooden bunks and performed all the tasks they couldn’t manage.

Like all the other prisoners, they lived in a barrack and ate the same watery soup, but it was clear that they’d been set apart.

Instead of having to use the latrines, they were given the potties of dead babies. There was also an aluminium bowl in which they had to wash every day, as Mengele was obsessed with hygiene.

Perhaps, they thought, he wanted them to put on a show? After all, they’d sung and performed sketches since the early 1930s and had even appeared before King Carol II in Bucharest.

Only the increasingly punitive Nazi laws against Jews had put a stop to the Lilliputs’ career. Then the day had come when they were ordered to leave their home in the village of Rozavlea.

Anticipating hard times ahead, they’d hidden all their valuables in a hole dug under their parked car before packing their suitcases with stage costumes and filling their pockets with make-up.

On the day they were summoned to Mengele’s lab, the women carefully made up their faces and put on their best dresses. To the emaciated inmates who saw them led to a truck, they must have seemed like a bizarre hallucination.

The lab looked like any ordinary clinic, with staff in white coats. All they seemed to want at first was to take blood samples, which seemed a small price to pay for their lives.

But the blood-letting was repeated week after week, along with dozens of X-rays. ‘The amount of blood they took was enormous and, being feeble from hunger, we often fainted,’ recalled Perla. ‘That didn’t stop Mengele: he had us lie down and when we came to our senses they resumed siphoning our blood.

‘They punctured us carelessly and blood spurted. We often felt nauseous and vomited a lot. When we returned to the barrack, we’d slump on the wooden bunks — but before we had time to recover, we’d be summoned for a new cycle.’

Mengele didn’t know what he was looking for. Far from recording any effort to break the genetic code for dwarfism, the paperwork reveals only routine tests for kidney problems, liver function and typhus.

Psychiatrists bombarded the dwarfs with questions to test their intelligence, doctors repeatedly tested them for syphilis — and boiling water, quickly followed by freezing water, was poured into their ears.

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The Ovitz family were taken to Auschwitz in 1944 where Dr Josef Mengele forced them to undergo medical tests

According to Perla, this water torture was excruciatingly painful and nearly drove them crazy. Also alarming was the fact doctors pulled out healthy teeth and plucked hairs from their eyelashes.

Dora Ovitz, the full-size wife of the eldest dwarf Avram, was cross-examined by Mengele about her sex life. As he bombarded her with increasingly lewd questions, he was actually salivating.

Above all, the Lilliputs dreaded suffering the same fate as two male dwarfs — a hunchback and his son — who’d arrived in the camp three months after them.

Having decided to send their skeletons to a museum in Berlin, Mengele had ordered his staff to boil their bodies over a fire until the flesh separated from the bones.

So pleased was he with the result that he had another dwarf killed for his skeleton — this time, the unfortunate man was dropped into a bath of acid.

‘We’d reconciled ourselves to the thought we wouldn’t walk out from the camp,’ said Perla.

‘But the notion that our skeletons would be exhibited in Berlin was ghastly beyond words.’

That they survived was down to the whim of the demon doctor. When the time came for everyone in their part of the concentration camp to be gassed, he saved them a second time by moving them to a different section.

The Lilliputs were careful to present a cheerful face to Mengele. They always addressed him as ‘Your Excellency’ and once sang him one of his favourite songs: ‘Come Make Me Happy.’

He was unfailingly polite to his seven captives, often praising them for their appearance. ‘How beautiful you look today!’ he’d say to Frieda, the prettiest of the dwarfs.

Flirtatiously, she’d reply: ‘I knew that Herr Hauptsturmführer was coming, so I took great care to make myself up in his honour.’

If Frieda ever skimped on her beauty routine, he’d ask: ‘Are you in a bad mood today? Why didn’t you apply your beautiful red lipstick?’

Mengele also brought sweets and toys — belonging to children he’d killed — for tall sister Leah’s 18-month-old son Shimshon. Malnourished and traumatised, the boy had never cried or uttered a word.

One day, however, he toddled towards Mengele, saying: ‘Daddy, Daddy.’ The doctor smiled: ‘No, I’m not your father, just Uncle Mengele.’

As for Perla, she was painfully aware of what she called the devil’s charm.

‘Dr Mengele was like a movie star, only more good-looking,’ she said. ‘Anyone could easily fall in love with him. But no one who saw him could ever imagine that behind his beautiful face a beast was hiding.

‘But we all knew that he was ruthless and capable of the very worst forms of sadistic behaviour — that when he was angry he’d become hysterical and shake with rage.

‘But if he were in a bad mood, the moment he stepped into our barrack he’d immediately calm down.

‘When he was in a good mood, people would say: “He probably visited the little ones.” ’

At twilight one day, Mengele dropped in to visit the dwarfs with a small parcel tucked under his arm.

He announced that the next day he’d be taking them on a special journey to a beautiful place.

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The family of dwarfs were taken by train to Auschwitz death camp and never believed they would survive

Noticing that their faces had gone deathly pale, he grinned. They would need to look their best, he continued, because they would be appearing onstage in front of some very important people.

He left, leaving the parcel behind. The five women unwrapped it and to their delight discovered a powder compact, rouge, bright red lipstick with matching nail varnish, a bottle of cologne and vivid turquoise and green eye shadows.

At dawn, on Friday, September 1, the women helped each other dress and apply a heavy, theatrical layer of make-up. Their glamour restored, they felt jubilant as they were lifted on to the truck that had come to fetch them.

They were taken straight to a large new building in the SS residential camp. Deposited on the lawn, they were soon tucking into a hearty meal served on fine china plates with silver cutlery.

Then, the troupe was led on to a stage inside. The auditorium was packed with high-ranking SS officers and Mengele was standing at the front of the stage. As they looked at him for a cue, he suddenly turned and snapped at them: ‘Undress!’

Aghast, with trembling hands, they fumbled with their buttons. Once every stitch of their finery had been removed, they stooped as they tried to hide their breasts and genitals.

‘Straighten up!’ barked Mengele.
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He was going public with his work in genetics, with a lecture entitled: ‘Examples of the Work in Anthropological and Hereditary Biology in the Concentration Camp.’

To illustrate his points, he poked the trembling dwarfs with a billiard cue, indicating the site of each of their internal organs.

His purpose was to show the Jewish race had degenerated into a people of dwarfs and cripples, but as he had no concrete findings, he was relying on the naked Lilliputs to give his speech some impact.

When he’d finished, the audience rose to applaud and a swarm of SS officers climbed on to the stage to prod at the naked troupe.

Afterwards, the dwarfs were too devastated to accept refreshments.

They arrived at the barrack in total silence — only to be greeted by their fellow prisoners as if they’d just returned from the dead.

Mengele continued to protect his research specimens. Not long afterwards, he saved Avram and Micki Ovitz from the gas chamber after another Auschwitz doctor — jealous of his rival’s success — ‘selected’ them for execution behind his back.

It was little wonder that when Mengele took a week’s holiday, the dwarfs were beside themselves with fear. On his return, Frieda asked him with all the charm she could muster: ‘Forgive me for asking, Your Excellency, but when will all this be over so we can go home?’

Mengele frowned. ‘What do you mean, meine Liebe [my love]? I can’t go home myself. I’m not working here for pleasure, but under orders. You’ve got nothing to complain about!’

The end, when it came, was swift. As word spread in January 1945 that the Russian army was approaching, Mengele gathered up his medical reports and fled.

Seven months later, the Ovitz family finally made it home, where they found their gold and jewellery still buried under their car. But the village of Rozavlea had irrevocably changed: only 50 of its 650 Jews had returned.

In 1949, the family emigrated to Israel, where they spent several years touring with their stage show until ill health forced them to retire.

By the time Perla told her incredible story of the seven dwarfs of Auschwitz, the rest of her family had died.

Mengele, who’d escaped justice by fleeing to South America, drowned in 1979. Had he been caught, Perla said she doubted he would have apologised for what he did to her family.

‘But if the judges had asked me if he should be hanged, I’d have told them to let him go.

‘I was saved by the grace of the devil — God will give Mengele his due.’

Perla died peacefully, aged 80, on September 9, 2001.

Extracted from Giants: The Dwarfs Of Auschwitz by Yehuda Koren and Eilat Negev (The Robson Press, £16.99). © 2013 Yehuda Koren and Eilat Negev. To order a copy for £11.49 (P&P free), tel: 0844 472 4157.

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Bev
February 17th, 2013, 08:49 AM
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Children of the Holocaust: Auschwitz survivors

Hitler’s death camps now seem so much part of history that this memoir from Auschwitz emerges like an accusing voice from the grave. Its author, Otto Dov Kulka, is one of the camp’s few survivors and a distinguished historian and professor at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

For nearly 70 years, he locked his memories away, neither reading about Auschwitz nor discussing that part of his life under the shadow of death.

As a young Jewish boy, Otto was sent with his family to Auschwitz, where he survived until the camp was emptied in 1944. Only now does he break the fragile eggshell of his memories and analyse what emerges. His story has a double resonance; combining the historian he is with the innocence of the child he was.

To retrace his journey, Otto Dov Kulka takes an elderly taxi across the snow-covered landscape towards Auschwitz. He remembers when he last came this way: the route had been covered with the dark blotches of corpses dumped by the roadside. First one dark stain, then another and another, as anyone who lagged behind was clubbed or shot.

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Chilling world: The entrance to Auschwitz concentration camp

Otto calls this book Landscapes Of The Metropolis Of Death because, to the 11-year-old boy, Auschwitz was a city of industry, the whole business of which lay in rendering human beings into corpses as efficiently as possible. When he revisits Auschwitz, his first stop is the gas chambers.

Leaving the car, he walks under the red brick tower where the railway tracks still lie, now softened by grass. In place of the camp, stretching from horizon to horizon is a forest of sooty, ruined chimneys and tottering concrete pillars. Where the armies of slaves had toiled, there is an overwhelming silence.
1,300,000:
The number of people who visit Auschwitz every year


Otto could identify his old barracks and the hospital block. Here he was a patient of the hideous Dr Mengele - and might have died in one of his experiments if, ironically, he hadn’t had diphtheria at the time. Here, a dying inmate taught him about history and civilisation, passing on as much he could of European culture to a boy he believed might survive.

Steps led down to the ovens of the crematoria, which blazed night and day. In his recurrent nightmares, Otto has descended these steps time and time again, accompanied by his family and friends. There was no escape from this place - it was the unalterable law in the camp that one day he would go down those steps into the everlasting fire. Seventy years later he holds back, circling the ruins as a moth circles the flame.

Otto’s family had been in Theresienstadt concentration camp before they were brought to Auschwitz in a cattle truck. Their heads were shaved, but by a miracle they were not dispatched to the gas chambers. Instead, Otto was sent to the children’s block, where concerts and plays were performed, as might have happened in a kibbutz.

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Angel of Death: Dr Josef Mengele

Like all boys, Otto was fascinated by the barbed-wire fence that surrounded the camp, and which was electrified at night. One day he passed a metal bowl of soup to his uncle when the current was switched on early. The shocks went through his body. Glued to the fence, he thought he was experiencing death - until another prisoner managed to poke him away. The small boy had to hide the seeping sores on his hands so as not to be selected as unfit for work - a death sentence in Auschwitz.

After 70 years, Otto Dov Kulka’s memory has blocked out many individual recollections of atrocities, but he remembers things which to him were commonplace: the piles of skeletons piled up behind the barracks every morning; the vivid weals on a beaten prisoner’s skull. As a child, they seemed to him utterly natural and part of a system which had always been like that.

He remembers ‘justice’ in the form of executions - the population of the vast metropolis drawn up in military rows, the light shining on thousands of bald skulls, the gallows being tested and four Russian POWs who had tried to escape shattering the silence with their defiant cries before they died.

Otto’s family was split up when the camp was finally liquidated in July 1944 and he never saw his mother again. Although she was pregnant with Otto’s brother, somehow she survived the death march, trading her last possession - a tiny diamond - for her infant’s care before she finally succumbed to typhoid fever. Miraculously, her sons later found her burial place.

Otto Dov Kulka leaves it to the end before he reveals how a Jewish family could survive Auschwitz for a full year (1943-1944). Their ‘Family Camp’ was set up as a showpiece for the Red Cross and other visitors, ostensibly to study Jewish society and customs. Otto was, unwittingly, an actor in one of Hitler’s most cynical productions. In this short, powerful memoir, every word tells its story.

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....another book advert thinly disguised as "news".

Englisc
February 17th, 2013, 10:40 AM
And not a word of it can be verified. What let a kid watch the alleged exeuction of 4 Russians? Why bother with gallows when there's gas chambers?

Bev
February 19th, 2013, 07:28 AM
The Nazi staff car screeched to a halt in the French countryside, just yards from where two terrified teenagers stood in front of a German fighter plane that had been brought down near their village the previous day.

‘Halt!’ snapped one of the four soldiers who confronted the boys. He pulled out a shiny pistol, his hand shaking with rage.
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Stephen Grady, 16, had particular reason to be fearful. He was English, his father one of the Tommies who had stayed on at the end of World War I to marry a French girl.

He and his friend, Marcel Lombard, had set out only to take a few souvenirs from the Messerschmitt, but a sudden burst of patriotism had inspired Grady to smash up the cockpit with a hammer before etching a message on the side of the fuselage with a screwdriver.

‘Long live the English airmen who shot down this filthy Kraut,’ it declared.

One of the Germans hit Grady hard across the head, sending him tumbling to the ground. ‘Stupid children, you will suffer for this,’ he barked.

Suffer they certainly would, but as Grady, now 87, reveals in a lyrical and haunting new autobiography, his cruel treatment by the Germans following his arrest on that June morning in 1941 only made him more determined to fight them as one of the youngest members of the French Resistance.

Demonstrating a bravery that later saw him awarded the Croix de Guerre, Grady entered a world of deadly intrigue. It was far from the peaceful life he had known as a child growing up in North-Eastern France between the wars.

His father had met his mother while fighting in France with the Royal Artillery. She ran a cafe in the village of Nieppe, close to the Belgian border. After the Armistice, he became a gardener for the Imperial War Graves Commission, tending to the plots in the military cemeteries in Nieppe.

At first, the graves of the fallen were marked by wooden crosses. These were eventually replaced by permanent headstones. Grady recalls how his father, with four children and a wife to support in their cramped little house on the outskirts of the village, decided it was a shame to waste the old wood from the crosses.

‘My mother screamed to see my father stuffing the wooden crosses, some still caked with earth, into the stove. She begged him to stop, clicking the beads on her rosary, and worried we would all go to hell.’



They had no idea then that what awaited them in this world would be hell enough. When the Germans first arrived in Nieppe in spring 1940, they asked if there were any British nationals in the area. If found, they would be interned in Nazi prisoner-of-war camps, or worse.

Unlike his wife and children, Grady’s father did not have French papers and was forced to spend the rest of the war in hiding, mostly in the family attic.

Then 15, and barely out of short trousers, Grady had to become the family breadwinner. He took over his father’s job in the cemeteries until his sabotage of the Messerschmitt saw him and Marcel Lombard sent to Lille and incarcerated in Loos Prison, the much feared, disease-ridden hellhole where murderers and debtors had been left to rot before the war.

‘I was put in a cell meant for just one prisoner with what looked like three scarecrows slouched on its stone floor. Each afternoon our mess tins were half filled with a liquid that looked like dirty bathwater and smelt a lot worse. Five haricot beans floated on the surface.

‘I learned to tussle like a beast for scraps and floor space, dreading that at any moment I might be dragged out for interrogation as my cell mates told me stories of people coming back to their cells with fingernails extracted, testicles crushed, eyeballs hanging out of their sockets.

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Resisting: An American officer and a French partisan crouch behind an auto during a street fight in 1944

‘We often heard volleys of gunshots from the exercise yard and, after weeks of being panicked by every approaching footstep, I began to think that an appearance before a well-run firing squad might not be such a bad future after all.’

After three long months in Loos, Grady and Marcel were finally freed, thanks to the intervention of Jules Houcke, the mayor of Nieppe. Unbeknown to the Germans, he was a leading figure in a local Resistance organisation, named La Voix du Nord.

Determined to infiltrate the escape routes organised by the Resistance, the Germans had begun parachuting in agents posing as stranded Allied aircrew. The Voix du Nord organisation needed a native English speaker who could interview every airman seeking their assistance to determine whether they were the real thing.

Grady was only 17 when he joined in October 1942, but he had been to boarding school in Kent and often holidayed at his grandmother’s home in Ramsgate, so he was perfect for the task. He was ‘itching’ to start unmasking enemy airmen, but the reality of the work proved more distressing than he had imagined.

One ‘Canadian’ airman did well at first, correctly identifying the year the Royal Canadian Air Force was founded, its motto and myriad other facts about his ‘homeland’. But Grady noticed the man’s right knee was jiggling throughout the interview.

‘He was gripping his thighs so tightly that his knuckles were white,’ he recalls.

‘“How do you become a member of the Caterpillar Club?”

‘“Perhaps it is a type of club for the people who are still learners to fly and have not yet got their wings?”

‘”Absolutely it is,” I told him, noting that his grammar was beginning to crumble under the strain. “Very good Lieutenant Eastwood. We’ll soon have you on your way back.”’
‘Long live the English airmen who shot down this filthy Kraut’

- What Stephen Brady wrote on a crashed Messerschmitt

Every Allied airman knew that the Caterpillar Club consisted of men who could claim to have bailed out of an ailing aircraft. Grady reported his doubts to Mayor Houcke.

Later that day, as he tidied the borders in one of the cemeteries, he found himself preoccupied by thoughts of the fate that awaited ‘Eastwood’.

‘I knew that this man would have no white headstone in a military cemetery, no gracious resting place for his mother to visit. He would simply be made to disappear.’

But Grady had his own safety to worry about. In autumn 1943, the Voix du Nord began working with the Sylvestre-Farmer Resistance network, established around Calais by the British Special Operations Executive. It was run by Michael Trotobas, a charismatic British officer known as ‘Capitaine Michel’.

He had a reputation for organising audacious but highly effective missions, like the first one involving Stephen Grady. This mission aimed to transport a lorry-load of Sten guns back to Nieppe, which had been airdropped by the RAF near the village of Ransart, 45 miles away.

Covering them with layers of turnips and straw, Grady lay on top of this deadly cargo, appearing for all the world like a farm labourer guarding his crop. He had his own Sten gun to hand as they made their perilous night-time passage through territory bristling with the enemy, but it was never needed. The arms were delivered safely to a local barn shortly before daylight.

Capitaine Michel was only 11 years Grady’s senior, but following this success he took an avuncular interest in him, offering practical tips on matters such as the best way to shoot a man dead.

‘“Two shots, no more, no less,” he said. “One to the stomach and one to the heart. Even if you miss with the second, the first will kill him in the end. And don’t look at his face.”

‘I nodded, pretending that I had conversations like this every day,’ says Grady.

The Capitaine was equally vocal on the subject of evading capture. ‘“I should rather die in battle, taking a bunch of Jerries with me, than in some windowless room, having the life slowly squeezed out of me by a couple of spineless b*****ds wielding nutcrackers. Better to die in silence than to live and talk.”’

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Gardens of Stone: My Boyhood in the French Resistance by Stephen Grady

He proved true to his word following the arrest of one of his agents in August 1943. When the information tortured out of him led the Germans to Capitaine Michel’s apartment in Lille, he refused to surrender, killing one would-be captor and injuring another before shooting himself.

Grady avenged his mentor’s death in March 1944 on his most dangerous mission of all — the assassination of a German soldier called Hans, who was sleeping with the daughter of a cafe owner in the nearby village of Steenwerck. Hans was heard boasting that he knew the identities of several members of the Resistance and could get them executed.

Entering the empty cafe early one evening, Grady was disconcerted to find Hans in the kitchen, very clearly off duty. ‘I was expecting him to be in khaki uniform with a scarlet swastika armband around his bicep,’ he remembers. ‘Instead, he was in shirtsleeves and a pair of pleated corduroy trousers.

‘I pulled the trigger twice, at point-blank range. He screamed in a far-off voice and glared at me, his eyes full of shock and rage. I didn’t expect the gun to be so loud.

‘I was just standing there holding it and then his eyes disappeared into his head and he went straight down. I felt no elation, no warmth in my belly at the thought of having killed a Kraut. I just felt numb and hollow inside.’

In the weeks that followed, Grady experienced feelings of ‘aching sadness’, but the summer of 1944 brought fresh anger towards the Germans, who were countering attempts at sabotage with increasingly despicable tactics. One night, Grady and a colleague placed nails across a main road, puncturing the tyres of a convoy of lorries and putting it out of action for a week.

‘In retaliation, the enemy soldiers used their rifle butts to shove everyone in the houses along the main road out of bed, making old men and women crawl along in their nightshirts, their hands and knees raw and bleeding as they were forced to pick up our nails,’ he recalls. ‘By some miracle, no one was shot.’

The Voix du Nord organisation’s final push against the German occupation at the end of August had grimmer consequences.

Using the smuggled weapons for which Capitaine Michel had sacrificed his life, they managed to take 150 German soldiers captive. The enemy responded by sending in the SS. ‘They drove a large group of townspeople in front of them,’ says Grady. ‘They were people we knew — shopkeepers and school friends, their faces contorted with terror. A human barricade.’

Under heavy German fire, Grady and his comrade Jean Sonneville managed to escape across the rooftops of Nieppe and into a car workshop, where they spent the night hiding in the inspection pit.

‘I had two grenades and handed one to Jean. Panting, we exchanged glances. I could see that he knew what to do if we were discovered. I would not be taken alive.

‘Next morning, half-dead with cold, we crawled out of our pit and found a new hiding place in the garage roof. There we remained for another 24 hours. Sporadic gunfire crackled in the distance. And then there was silence. We could hear birds singing. The Germans had gone.’

They emerged to find more than 40 of their friends and neighbours had been killed by Germans fleeing the British troops who liberated Nieppe soon afterwards.

As the war ended, when Mayor Houcke told the British about Grady’s contribution to the Resistance, one of their commanding officers secured him a commission in the Intelligence Corps. But his father’s death following a motorbike accident soon afterwards put paid to his dreams of a life in the Army.

His mother begged him to stay in Nieppe and look after the family, and he agreed. He continued tending the war graves, eventually becoming Director of all Commonwealth War Grave Commission cemeteries in France before retiring in 1984.

Today, Grady lives in Greece. ‘Nothing helps memories linger as much as fear, and I lived in terrible fear when I was growing up,’ he says. ‘Fear of being caught by the Germans, fear of being tortured by their police. Fear so intense I have never been able to obliterate it.’

It’s perhaps for this reason that he has remained lifelong friends with Marcel Lombard, who still lives only a stone’s throw from Nieppe.

‘In the end, it is only Marcel who can really understand,’ he says of their enduring bond. ‘He and I have shared so much together. In Loos Prison, in Nieppe, and in the glintingly sombre years since that summer’s day when I scrawled a slogan on the side of a Messerschmitt, and the bottom fell out of our world.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2280822/Stephen-Grady-The-British-boy-bravest-man-French-Resistance.html

Bob 88
February 19th, 2013, 11:42 AM
They run an interesting story about the bloke in the SAS, then run nonsense about the seven dwarfs and hunchbacks - are intelligent people supposed to believe ludicrous stories about dwarfs being dropped in vats of acid ??.

What are they playing at ?*shrug*

andy
February 19th, 2013, 12:05 PM
Resistance fighters ? What with a pair of scissors to shave women's hair.Cowardly,misogynistic bullying scum typical scum that nowadays line up with the aliens against the indigenous people

Bev
February 19th, 2013, 12:07 PM
There's been an anti Israel story today, so brace yourselves for this thread to explode. :rolleyes:

Bev
February 19th, 2013, 12:17 PM
To learn quantum mechanics, you have to strip to your raw’: What Columbia professor told bemused students as he stripped to his UNDERWEAR in front of screen playing harrowing 9/11 footage

Ivy League professor stripped to underwear in quantum mechanics lecture
Professor Emlyn Hughes played footage of Hitler and 9/11 on a screen
Stunned Columbia University students filmed the bizarre lecture


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‘The Superstar Karaoke Bar is now officially a toilet,’ announced the cruise entertainers, trying to sound upbeat.

Waltz did not participate in the opening sketch. In his monologue that followed the cruise sendup, the Austrian actor took a good-natured jab at Germans for their notoriously lacking sense of humor before breaking into a merry song flanked by Taran Killem as preppy-looking ‘casual Hitler.’

Waltz took full advantage of his being the first German-speaking actor to host the show, stepping into the flamboyant red shoes of his compatriot Pope Benedict XVI for a hilarious fake commercial lampooning the pontiff’s surprise resignation.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2279939/Carnival-cruise-ship-SNL-comedians-poke-fun-ordeal-hell-opening-skit-filled-bathroom-jokes.html


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Casual Hitler: The Austrian-German star tried to avoid the typical jokes associated with his country

He stars with series regular Kenan Thompson as part of the Jamarcus Brothers piece, where the siblings have a new album to help couples get in the mood for love.

The character of Regine returns as a man dressed in women’s clothing and in keeping with the crude ways of Fred Armisen’s character ends up legs akimbo with Waltz being a good sport as part of the usual storyline.

In his opening monologue Waltz insists that Austrians have a wonderful sense of humour and wants to avoid clichéd German jokes.

The audience gets a sample of what was supposedly rejected, including a couple channelling the Octoberfest look while doing Abbot and Costello routines, as well as a Casual Hitler.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2280234/Christoph-Waltz-risks-getting-Christians-riled-spoofs-vengeful-resurrection-Jesus-Christ-Saturday-Night-Live.html


Benedict's papacy was rocked by crises over the sex abuse of children by priests in Europe and the United States, most of which preceded his time in office but came to light during it.

His reign also saw Muslim anger after he compared Islam to violence. Jews were upset over his rehabilitation of a Holocaust denier. During a scandal over the Church's business dealings, his butler was convicted of leaking his private papers.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2280095/Pray-pope-says-Benedict-thousands-gather-St-Peters-Square-Sunday-address.html


We all know the old saying about Nazi Germany, where they came for the Communists and the Jews first, and everyone else did nothing because they were neither of these things. And then there was nobody left to protest.

In Britain, it is the other way round. It is the Nazis who are the first to be arrested for their opinions.

But it is all of us who will have to watch what we think or say if we do not resist this. '


And on 13th July 2009 I put in another plea for Mr Griffin to be given a platform: ‘YES, the BNP leader Nick Griffin should be on Question Time. A few suggestions: The first question should be about his attitude to the Holocaust. The second should be about why his party's constitution is bigoted. And the third should be about his interesting appearance next to a one-time stalwart of the Ku Klux Klan. After that, I'd love to see him asked for the details of his economic policy and given all the time in the world to explain it. Oh, and please make sure he is not on a panel with identikit liberal elite politicians from the New and Blue Labour Parties.



‘It is their silence and evasion over mass immigration, disorder and the EU that have made the BNP as strong as it is. The best way to head off the BNP is for the BBC to give more of a voice to legitimate, civilised people who don't share the Left-liberal consensus.’

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All stories from today.

See? One anti-Israel story - thread explosion.

Bev
February 20th, 2013, 07:50 AM
The German government is backing a bid by an Israeli researcher to find a billion pound fortune in looted Nazi gold in a lake near Berlin.

Legend has it that 18 crates of gold and platinum were dumped by an S.S. squad in the Stolpsee lake in Brandenburg in the closing days of the Second World War and lie in less than 50 feet of water.

They were allegedly dumped in a secret operation codenamed ‘Operation Nibelung’ after the vast treasure of the mythical Burgundians whose stories are told in Wagner’s opera cycle The Ring of the Nibelungen.

The lake lies in what was former East Germany and was the scene of frantic dives organised by the Stasi secret police desperate for treasure to sell in order to buy much needed foreign currency.

The treasure has a conservative value of around a billion pounds.

But if it is there, it lies under at least six feet of lake-bottom sludge and the Israeli team which arrived on its shores this week have brought along sophisticated sonar gear in a bid to locate it.

The treasure belonged to Hermann Goering - Luftwaffe chief, one-time deputy to Hitler and the greatest thief of the Third Reich - who stored it at his hunting lodge Carinhall 50 miles north of Berlin.

Carinhall was bedecked with some of the most beautiful treasures of Europe, stolen to order by Goering, but emptied in early 1945 as the Red Army moved closer to Berlin and blown up on his orders.

To this day it is a magnet for treasure hunters who pour into the woods and ruins in unsuccessful attempts to find what they believe is missing loot still hidden in secret bunkers.

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Witnesses said they saw Polish slave labourers being forced to dump up to £1billion of gold in the lake

Eighteen months ago a consortium of British businessmen expressed an interest to the German government of diving for it but nothing came of their expedition.

According to eyewitness accounts from the time, Polish slave labourers assisted the S.S. in dumping the gold into the lake and were then executed, their bodies weighted and then thrown into the water after the treasure.


The search has been reignited after claims by a local priest, Erich Koehler, 79, who has researched the legend of the treasure and who was a pastor near the lake during the East German communist regime.

'They didn’t have the technology in the former East Germany to properly examine the lake,' he said.

'But there are enough local people still around to know that the gold is there – and the bodies of the poor souls forced to dump it into the water.’

Erich Mielke, the chief of the Stasi, believed in the story and won politburo approval for his search back in 1986.

The hunt was codenamed Operation Autumn Wind and grainy black and white photos exist of the search in the murky depths.

The Israeli team has been bolstered in its confidence of finding treasure from papers found in the German Federal Archive in Koblenz.

SS documents together with post-war eye witness statements to the events on the lake in March 1945, give credence to the theory that precious material was indeed dumped into the 400-feet deep lake.

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The treasure belonged to Hermann Goering, pictured right, with wife Emmy, left and Benito Mussolini, who stored it at his hunting lodge Carinhall

One witness, Eckhard Litz, told a post-war allied commission: ‘I remember well the night that lorries with slit headlights drove up to the lakeshore and I saw about 20 to 30 skeletal figures dressed in striped concentration camp uniforms being forced to unload heavy boxes.

‘These were put into two rowing boats which made six separate trips to the centre of the lake.

‘When the last case had been thrown overboard, the men returned to shore, were lined up and the last thing I saw were the flashes of the machine guns of the guards as they were killed.’

He said the bodies were then loaded back onto the rowing boats which were then taken out by the SS to the centre of the lake and sunk. A third boat brought back the SS men to the shore.

Goering is alleged to have personally taken charge of numerous amounts of bullion from the national bank of Poland following the Nazi invasion in 1939. It is this loot which allegedly lies in the Stolpsee.

Israeli scientists Yaron Svoray, 59, received permission and assistance from Germany for the searches which begin this week.

He said: 'It is not just about the treasure but also about the people who it once belonged to. It is about putting things right.'

His sonar equipment alone costs 50,000 pounds.

Dr. Thomas Kersting, of the Brandenburg state office for monuments, said: 'This is an expedition of extreme historical interest.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2281243/Israeli-researcher-hunt-1BILLION-looted-Nazi-gold-Berlin-lake-given-German-backing.html

Bev
February 24th, 2013, 05:51 AM
Adolf Hitler is running for election in India... And so is Frankenstein.

The tiny northeast Indian state of Meghalaya has a special fascination for interesting and sometimes controversial names, as proven by the ballot for state elections.

Among the 345 contestants running for the state assembly are Frankenstein Momin, Billykid Sangma, Field Marshal Mawphniang and Romeo Rani. Some, like Kenedy Marak, Kennedy Cornelius Khyriem and Jhim Carter Sangma, are clearly hoping for the electoral success of their namesake American presidents.

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Election: Adolf Lu Hitler is just one of the candidates in the election in the tiny northeast Indian state of Meghalaya


Then there is Hitler.

This 54-year-old father of three has won three elections to the state assembly with little controversy over being named after the Nazi dictator.

His father had worked with the British army, but apparently developed enough of a fascination with Great Britain's archenemy to name his son Adolf Hitler - though he also gave him the middle name Lu, Hitler said.



'I am aware at one point of time Adolf Hitler was the most hated person on Earth for the genocide of the Jews. But my father added "Lu" in between, naming me Adolf Lu Hitler, and that's why I am different,' Hitler said from the small village of Mansingre, 125 miles west of Gauhati, the capital of the nearby state of Assam.

Hitler said his name has not stopped him from traveling the world, including to the United States and Germany.

'I never had problems obtaining a visa but I was asked many times during immigration as to why I should have such a name. I told the immigration staff I possibly didn't have a role in my naming,' he said.

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Adolf Lu Hitler, a 54-year-old father of three, has won three elections to the state assembly with little controversy over being named after the Nazi dictator (pictured)

India had thousands of troops fighting alongside the allies in World War II, especially in North Africa and Burma, but many Indians view Hitler not as the personification of evil but as a figure of fascination.

Hitler's book Mein Kampf is prominently displayed at many Indian bookstores. The owner of a menswear shop named his store 'Hitler,' then expressed puzzlement last year after Israel complained.

Musfika Haq, a teacher in Meghalaya's capital, Shillong, said such names are common in the state.
'Parents obviously get fascinated by names of well-known or great leaders, but must be unaware that some of them, like Hitler, had been highly controversial,' he said.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2283377/Meghalaya-Adolf-Hitler-running-office-India-Frankenstein-going-him.html

Bev
February 26th, 2013, 11:56 AM
The family of a legendary World War Two pilot are having to sell his treasured medal collection for £120,000 to pay for the hero's care home fees.

Wing Commander Bransome 'Branse' Burbridge was the RAF's most prolific night-fighter pilot of the war, claiming 21 enemy kills.

He downed four German planes in a single sortie and saved thousands of lives by destroying three of Hitler's fearsome V1 rocket bombs aimed at London.

A conscientious objector at the start of the war and a clergyman after, he was known for showing mercy to the enemy by aiming for their engines to give them a chance of survival.




The WWII flying ace's family are reluctantly selling his treasured medal set for around £120,000 to pay for his care home fees. The medals includie DSO and bar, DFC and bar, 39-45 Star, Air Crew Europe Star, War Medal and USA DFC

Indeed, after the war he met up with his chief adversary, Luftwaffe ace Major Wilhelm Herget whom he had also shot down, and took him for a flight in his Mosquito plane.

Wing Cmdr Burbridge won both the Distinguished Service Order and Distinguished Flying Cross twice for his heroics.

Now aged 93, he is suffering from Alzheimer's disease and is in a private care home after his wife Barbara died last year.

His family are 'reluctantly' selling the medals and old RAF flying jacket at auction to raise £120,000 which will cover the cost of his care for the next six years if necessary.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2284673/World-War-Two-heros-family-forced-sell-medals-pay-heros-care-home-fees.html

Bev
March 1st, 2013, 09:05 AM
It was a little-known Second World War tactic to fool the Germans - and it certainly did the job.

These extraordinary photos reveal how Operation Starfish helped to dupe Nazi aircraft by creating a number of decoy towns which were built to lure enemy bombers away from more populated areas.

The Starfish Sites - which got their name from the initials ‘SF’, standing for ‘Special Fire’ sites - were designed by Colonel John Turner and were intended to simulate burning UK cities during the Blitz.
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Burning: A Starfish basket fire is pictured in an unknown location. The Starfish sites - which got their name from the initials 'SF', standing for 'Special Fire' sites - were intended to simulate burning cities during the Blitz

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Decoy: A boiling oil fire is pictured at an unidentified Starfish site. Starfish sites were first created in December 1940 and received five blitz attempts just that month

Trevor Denniff, who served on Farleigh Common Starfish in Warlingham, Surrey, spoke in 1998 of his experiences and said the headquarters for the project was at Shepperton Film Studios in Middlesex.

‘The film studios are used to creating a world of make believe, so they were the obvious people to design and set up our sites,’ he told the Hythe RAF Association in a talk reprinted on BBC History.



Mr Denniff said that film crews were ‘erecting a series of skeletal structures all over a valley farm, covering an area of about one mile by a quarter with scaffolding towers and blocks of wire baskets’.

The RAF aircraftman, or ‘erk’ in slang, added that pairs of 1,000-gallon galvanised tanks were placed on top of 20ft-tall towers, with one filled with water and the other with diesel or paraffin.

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Ready for action: An anonymous Starfish site is pictured. Liverpool, Bristol and Nottingham were protected by the sites - with the German pilots thinking that a Starfish site 14 miles away from the latter was Derby

A system similar to a toilet flush under each tank then released the liquids down pipes into 15ft cast-iron troughs filled with coke or coal over firelighters.

'The water was released onto the burning oil, causing a virtual explosion of fire and steam. It was all very impressive but films lost some of their magic'

Trevor Denniff, RAF aircraftman

The coal would be lit when enemy bombers arrived at night and the diesel would be released when the trough was hot - boiling and igniting.

‘The water was then released onto the burning oil, causing a virtual explosion of fire and steam,’ Mr Denniff said. ‘It was all very impressive but films lost some of their magic.’

The fire baskets were arranged to look like buildings and covered with tarred roofing felt to ensure they were watertight when it rained. The sites were designed to look like industrial complexes.

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From above: This is an aerial photo taken in 1944 of SF8A, the decoy in Richmond Park in south-west London

Starfish sites were first created in December 1940 and diverted five blitz attempts just that month. By the end of the Second World War they had saved an estimated 2,500 lives.
THE IMPORTANCE OF DECOY SITES

Dummy sites were a key tactic to preserving important transport hubs and cities in Britain during the bombings of World War Two.

There were around 230 dummy airfields in the UK and 400 dummy urban and industrial sites.

Dummy railway marshalling yards and docks also existed in an attempt to trick the Luftwaffe.

They also ensured that millions of pounds worth of buildings were protected. Portsmouth and Cardiff were two major cities that were saved from extension damage on occasions by Starfish sites.

Middlesbrough, Bristol and Nottingham were also protected by the sites – with the German pilots thinking that a Starfish site 14 miles away from the latter was Derby.

In 730 attacks on decoy sites, four civilians were killed. But for decades the sites have remained something of a secret, with ex-servicemen still true to the mantra that ‘careless talk costs lives’.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2286276/Extraordinary-story-WW2s-Starfish-Sites-designed-look-like-burning-cities-saved-2-500-lives.html

Bev
March 3rd, 2013, 05:12 AM
Worse than the world ever imagined: True scale of the Holocaust revealed as it's discovered Nazis created 42,500 camps and ghettos to persecute Jews - not 7,000 as previously thought

But they were left horrified to discover 42,500 across much of Europe
They also estimate up to 20 million people died or were imprisoned at sites


It is one of the worst moments in history, which still horrifies to this day.

During Hitler's brutal reign of Nazi Germany, more than six million Jews were killed.

But now new research has discovered that the Holocaust may well be even worse than previously thought.
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Thirteen years ago, researchers at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum began the task of documenting all the ghettos, slave labour sites, concentration camps and killing factories that the Nazis set up throughout Europe - and realised they had underestimated the extent of the Nazis' evil.

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The map shows the Nazi ghettos and camps throughout Europe, spanning German-controlled areas from France to Russia and Germany itself, during Hitler's reign of brutality from 1933 to 1945

Researchers at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum have been documenting all of the Nazi concentration camps, ghettos, slave labour sites and killing factories which had been set up across Europe.

When they first started the project, the team expected to find about 7,000 camps and ghettos.



Shockingly, they discovered 42,500 camps across large swathes of German-controlled Europe. The researchers predict that up to 20 million people died or were imprisoned in the sites.

Speaking to the New York Times, Hartmut Berghoff, director of the institute, said: 'The numbers are so much higher than what we originally thought.
Grim: It is believed more than 42,000 Holocaust camps existed across Europe.

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This image shows the main gate of the Nazi concentration camp Auschwitz, with the sign above the gate reading: Hard work will set you free

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Horrific: The figures are much higher than previously thought - researchers first thought that about 7,000 Nazi camps existed

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Awful: Jewish men are pictured being transported from the Warsaw Ghetto by Wehrmacht soldiers to work on sites elsewhere
A BREAKDOWN OF THE CAMPS

When the project began, researchers thought they would find about 7,000 Nazi camps, only to find more than 40,000.

30,000 slave labour camps

1,150 Jewish ghettos

980 concentration camps

1,000 prisoner-of-war camps

500 brothels filled with sex slaves
And 1,000s of camps used for euthanizing the elderly and infirm, performing forced abortions, 'Germanizing' prisoners or transporting victims to killing centres

'We knew before how horrible life in the camps and ghettos was but the numbers are unbelievable.'

The figure includes 30,000 slave labour camps and 980 concentration camps. As well as 'killing centres' they included forced labour camps where prisoners made supplies for the war.

They also included sites called 'care' centres in which pregnant women were made to have abortions or their babies murdered shortly after birth.

The researchers have created a series of maps which present a grim view of life in wartime Europe.They show just how widespread the camps were, although most were centred in Germany and Poland.

Previous data has shown just the existence of individual camps on a fragmented basis.

But using data from 400 contributors , they have now documented the large scale operation for the first time.

They have discovered exactly where they are located and how they were run.

It is now believed that the research could help survivors with their claims over unpaid insurance policies. Researchers say the project has helped change the understanding about Holocaust experts over how the camps were run.

The Warsaw Ghetto has been identified as the biggest site - holding about 500,000 people at one point.

When the project first started, the researchers expected to find about 7,000 Nazi camps and ghettos. But as the project has gone on, the numbers constantly increased to the current figure of 42,500.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2287071/Full-shocking-scale-Holocaust-revealed-researchers-Nazis-created-42-500-camps-ghettos-persecute-Jews-Europe.html

Bev
March 6th, 2013, 05:22 AM
The new chief executive of a museum dedicated to the Second World War code-breakers has sparked anger after announcing plans to remove Winston Churchill memorabilia.

Iain Standen said having a collection about the wartime prime minister was 'not synonymous' with Bletchley Park, in Buckinghamshire, and likened it to having 'Charles and Diana mugs in someone's house'.

The trustees plan to take down the collection of pictures, posters, books, pamphlets and busts because they are not see as relevant.

Churchill once described the code-breakers who cracked the German's Enigma code as 'the geese that laid the golden eggs - but never cackled.'

According to the museum's website, the privately-owned collection has many rare and interesting pieces and fascinating stories that enthrall visiting pupils.

The displays chronologically illustrate events and episodes in Churchill’s life.

A selection of Churchill’s broadcast speeches is also available for students to hear.


Examples of his literary works and reproductions of his paintings can be seen, and the displays span from his birth in 1874 through to his schooling, military career, political life, premiership, his likes and leisure pursuits, and finally his state funeral.


Students are also allowed to ring the bell of The Havengore, the launch used to carry Sir Winston’s coffin up the river Thames.

Historian Sarah Lambert, of Goldsmith's, University of London, said the exhibition must be protected and remain accessible to the public.

She told the Daily Express: 'This shows that history needs more funding so people are not put in the position of choosing one thing over another.'


Instead, the Churchill exhibition will be replaced with stories of the people who worked at the intelligence-gathering station near Milton Keynes during the war.

Mr Standen said the Churchill Collection was not museum-standard but just 'one man's obsession'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2288931/Churchill-exhibition-Bletchley-Park-scrapped-museum-bosses-claim-wartime-prime-minister-synonymous-code-breakers-work.html

Bev
March 8th, 2013, 09:53 AM
A little girl in a red coat becomes the catalyst which saves the lives of more than 1,000 Jews destined for the concentration camps in Steven Spielberg’s celebrated film Schindler's List.

But for the now 24-year-old woman who played the role in 1993, the iconic appearance left her traumatised for years.

Oliwia Dabrowska was three years old when she starred as the girl in the red coat – the only flash of colour in the otherwise black-and-white film.



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Unwilling star: Oliwia Dabrowska, aged three, plays the iconic 'girl in the red coat' in 1993 Oscar winning Schindler's List


'I was ashamed of being in the movie and angry with my mother and father when they told anyone about the part,' the university student told The Times.

She added that starring in the film led to much unwanted attention and harassment from well-meaning adults and school friends.

‘People said: “It must be so important to you, you must know so much about the Holocaust” I was frustrated by it all.’

Oliwia, from Krakow, said she was ‘horrified’ when watching the film for the first time at the age of 11, breaking her promise to director Steven Spielberg to wait until she was 18.



She told the newspaper: 'I kept it secret for a long, long time, though at high school people got to know on the internet.

'People said: "It must be so important to you, you must know so much about the Holocaust." I was frustrated by it all.'

One of the most disturbing scenes is one showing the SS officer Amon Goeth, played by Ralph Fiennes, who arbitrarily shoots women and children from his window.

Oliwia told The Times: 'It was too horrible. I could not understand much, but I was sure that I didn't want to watch ever again in my life.'

In the film, Ms Dabrowska plays a ‘little girl in the red coat’ spotted by Nazi industrialist Oskar Schindler during the liquidation of the Krakow ghetto in 1943.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2287890/Schindlers-List-Trauma-girl-red-coat-holocaust-icon.html

Bev
March 11th, 2013, 09:16 AM
The world-famous Vienna Philharmonic orchestra is to lift the lid on its Nazi-era past following years of accusations of a cover-up.

Details will be published of 13 musicians who were driven out over their Jewish origin or relations after Germany’s annexation of Austria in 1938 – five of whom died in concentration camps.

It will also be admitted that ostracism of Jewish musicians had begun even before 1938.



‘It was known whether somebody had Jewish roots or a Jewish wife,’ said historian Bernadette Mayrhofer.

The orchestra has further promised to give more details about a ring of honour it presented in 1942 to Baldur von Schirach, a Nazi governor of Vienna who oversaw the deportation of tens of thousands of Jews.

A replacement for the ring, which Schirach lost, may have been delivered to him in the 1960s, after his release from prison for crimes against humanity, according to Harald Walser, a Green member of Austria’s parliament. Austria took several decades after World War II to acknowledge and voice regret for its central role in Hitler’s Third Reich and Holocaust.


The country will solemnly mark the 75th anniversary tomorrow of its annexation by Nazi Germany.

The Vienna Philharmonic is best known for its annual New Year Concert, a Strauss waltz extravaganza broadcast to an audience of more than 50million in 80 countries.

Few realise that the concert originated as a propaganda instrument under Nazi rule in 1939.

The orchestra rarely played the music of the Strauss family, known for the Blue Danube and numerous other waltzes, before this period.

The New Year Concert helped promote Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels’s desired image of Vienna.

He wrote in his diaries that the Austrian capital should be seen as a city of ‘culture, music, optimism and conviviality’.

Fritz Truempi, one of three historians commissioned by the orchestra to produce articles on its Nazi era which will be published on its website, said: ‘The New Year Concert was invented under the Nazis.’

Nearly half the population of Austria – the birthplace of Adolf Hitler – think that there were ‘positive aspects’ to Nazi rule, according to a poll.

And 54 per cent think if there were no law forbidding Nazis they would be ‘successful’ in elections.

The results of the survey have shocked academics who say they are proof that Austria still has not come to terms with its Nazi past.

German troops marched into Austria on March 12, 1938 and the terror which befell the Jews in Vienna was far worse than anything which had taken place up until that time in Germany.

Austria housed one of the most notorious Nazi concentration camps – Mauthausen – where 200,000 people were murdered, worked to death or subjected to terrible medical experiments.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2291219/Vienna-Philharmonic-orchestra-finally-lift-lid-Nazi-past-amid-accusations-cover-up.html

Bev
March 12th, 2013, 07:16 AM
The younger brother of senior Nazi Hermann Goering could be honoured for risking his life to save Jews during the Holocaust.

Albert Goering, a German businessman who died in 1966, is believed to have saved hundreds of Jews and political dissidents by petitioning to have them released or securing exit permits from concentration camps.

A file is being prepared at Yad Vashem, the Holocaust memorial and research centre in Israel, to put him forward for the Righteous Among the Nations award.

Others to have been given the honour include Oskar Schindler, the German industrialist who is believed to have saved more than 1,200 Jews during the Second World War by employing them in his factories.

Irena Steinfeldt, director of the Righteous Among The Nations department at Yad Vashem, is carrying out research into the actions of Albert Goering.

According to William Hastings Burke's book about the case, Thirty Four, he was a defiant anti-Nazi who smuggled Jews across the borders, funneled aid to refugees across Europe and did everything in his power to undermine his brother's regime.

Yad Vashem is examining evidence including testimony from US interrogators, Gestapo reports and statements from people he rescued.

On one occasion he is said to have asked for the release of a doctor called Dachau, but confusion resulted in two men with the same surname being set free.

During the war he worked as export director of the Skoda Works in Nazi-occupied Czechoslovakia. At the time it was a major arms manufacturer.


At the end of the war, he spent two years in prison as he tried to convince the Allies of his innocence.

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He was put on trial in Prague for his wartime role, but acquitted following testimony from factory workers.

His efforts included compiling a list of 34 people he had saved.

He was eventually released but found it hard to rid himself of the stigma of his family name and became a depressed alcoholic.

Albert Goering was married to a Czech woman named Mila, with whom he had a daughter. The couple were divorced after the war and he married his housekeeper shortly before he died.

Hermann Goering, the commander-in-chief of the Luftwaffe, committed suicide by taking cyanide in 1946, the night before he was due to be hanged for war crimes.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2291983/Hermann-Goerings-younger-brother-honoured-saving-Jews-Holocaust.html

john-connor
March 12th, 2013, 07:53 AM
He was half Jewish.

Bev
March 16th, 2013, 06:56 AM
Millions of poignant black-and-white photos have come out of the World War Two era, but it is not often that scenes from the deadliest conflict in human history can be seen in living color.

In 1942, LIFE Magazine sent Margaret Bourke-White, one of its four original staff photographers and the first female photojournalist accredited to cover WWII, to take pictures of the VIII Bomber Command, commonly known as the Eighth Air Force or The Mighty 8th.

The photographs, executed in brilliant hues that make them look almost like oil paintings, put on full display the massive American B-24s and B-17s - or Flying Fortresses - that rained terror on Nazi-control cities often in tandem with the Royal Air Force.

In the early stages of the war, the Eighth Air Force and the bombers under its command were praised for the 'fantastic accuracy' of the attacks.

But as the conflict dragged on, the Flying Fortresses and their crews would face heavy loses, the most dramatic of which came in October 1943 when 60 bombers were destroyed and 600 pilots perished in a single raid in Germany.

Some of Bourke-White’s pictures show everyday scenes from the base in England, like the portrait of an American pilot with a pink toy bunny - likely a good luck charm from a child - tucked in his waistband.

Another image shows an Air Force service member painting caricatures on the nose of an aircraft poking fun at the leaders of the Axis - Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini and Japan's Hirohito.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294284/WWII-color-Rare-photos-1942-Flying-Fortress-bombers-heroic-crews-The-Mighty-8th-Command.html

This is mostly photos so I won't bother linking them all. I only posted it because it's another WWII DM fetish story and because, oddly, it's the LEAD story despite other events having happened.

Bev
March 18th, 2013, 06:17 AM
Today's vitally important WWII news update - a Dambuster likes a cup of tea.

The last of the Dambusters has spoken for the first time how he celebrated the squadron's heroic raid - with a nice cup of tea.

Almost 70 years after the night-time bombing attacks, Squadron Leader George 'Johnny' Johnson, 91, told of the daring raid over occupied territory that dealt a decisive blow that crippled the Nazi war effort.

George was festooned with a raft of medals including a Distinguished Flying Medal for his part in 617 Squadron's daring 1943 blitz on the Nazi-controlled dams along the Ruhr Valley in Germany, destroying their hydro-electric source of power.

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john-connor
March 21st, 2013, 10:49 AM
Did 'executed' Nazi criminal in Schindler's List escape justice? Historians claim video of camp commander being hanged is NOT him

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Bev
March 21st, 2013, 11:19 AM
Did 'executed' Nazi criminal in Schindler's List escape justice? Historians claim video of camp commander being hanged is NOT him

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Good find! I'll post it in full in case it disappears.

Revelations about the execution of a notorious Nazi war criminal, immortalised in Schindler's List, have raised questions about how the mass murderer died and whether he was even hanged at all.

For decades Amon Goeth, who was responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of Jews and Poles during World War Two, was believed to have been filmed being executed in 1946.

A black and white video shows executioners twice botching a hanging before he was eventually killed.

But historians claim in a new National Geographic documentary called Bloody Tales that the video was from 1947 and shows Dr Ludwig Fischer being hanged.

Worryingly, there is almost no detail about the sadistic mass murderer's death in official records and no one knows what happened to his body.

Historian Dr Suzannah Lipscomb and presenter Joe Crowley do not believe he escaped Europe like other high profile Nazis such as Adolf Eichmann and Joseph Mengele, and say he was killed.

However the revelations surrounding Goeth, who was known to carry out his own killings rather than order them, mean his death is now a complete mystery with records containing just two words: 'He died.'



Dr Lipscomb said: 'We are pretty sure that he was executed. On some level there will be speculation but if it was a court of law it would be concluded beyond reasonable doubt.

'He was a truly horrific individual.'


The new documentary says the infamous video shows the botched execution of Dr Ludwig Fischer in 1947 and not Amon Goeth, a year earlier, as has been believed for decades

She said she hoped the information would inspire other researchers to now try to find out more about what happened to his body.

David Caldwell-Evans, documentary director, said a combination of inaccurate records and the internet has perpetuated the myth that Goeth was in the video of the execution.

He said: 'We know he was executed and there was one unconfirmed account that said the executioners struggled because of Goeth's height.

'There is no record of where he was buried, he could have been cremated and had his ashes thrown in the river or his body could have been donated to a medical school. We just don't know.

'With Goeth, he acted alone so we thought there may be records and reports of his death but there is nothing.

The only record left about the execution of Amon Goeth,

The only record left about the execution of Amon Goeth, who enjoyed killing people himself rather than ordering their deaths, is a note saying 'he died'

'He actually killed people himself, the war helped him exact his psychopathic tendencies.'

Goeth was chillingly portrayed by British actor Ralph Fiennes in the Steven Spielberg's Oscar-winning masterpiece Schindler's List.

The Polish State Film Archive, the Yad Vashem Holocaust Archive in Israel, Goeth's biographer and numerous online holocaust sites identified the man being hanged as Goeth.

Goeth, the Kraksow-Plaszow concentration camp commander in Poland, was convicted of killing tens of thousands of Jews in 1946.

He was known to shoot babies for fun and got an extra kick when victims died slowly and painfully.


As well as killing Jews and Poles, Goeth also stole from them for his personal gain.

At his trial he was found guilty of ordering up to 8,000 inmates to be exterminated, killing 2,000 more by closing the Krakow ghetto, and ordering the murder of several thousands more by closing down the forced labour camp at Szebnie.

Survivors told of the horror of living under Goeth's command and testimonies said that he took a personal interest in the murder of prisoners.

He would often set dogs on prisoners, who would eat them alive, before Goeth personally shot them but only when they stopped moving.

Prisoners were counted lucky if they survived for more than four weeks.

In 1943 on Yom Kippur, Goeth and SS officers shot 50 Jews and prisoners were regularly hanged in front of others.

Schindler Jew Moshe Beijski's testimony at the trial of war criminal Adolf Eichmann is quoted on the Auschwitz website: 'The case of Olmer, whose daughter lives in Jerusalem, and I know her .. He was summoned by the Camp Commandant Amon Goeth.

'The Camp Commandant had two dogs, Ralf and Rolf, and he set the dogs on him. The dogs ate him up alive. Possibly a little breath still remained in him. He shot him and he was killed.'

In another testimony, an older man received a beating and was then made to thank Goeth for it.

When he turned to leave, he was shot in the back.

At Plaszow, Goeth spent the mornings using a high-powered rifle to shoot children playing in the camp.


Schindler Jew Poldek Pfefferberg said: 'When you saw Goeth, you saw death.'

Goeth was arrested by the Gestapo for theft in 1944 but charges were dropped as Germany faced defeat by the Allied Forces.

He was arrested again in 1945, this time by U.S. forces and put on trial in 1946 at the Supreme National Tribunal of Poland in Krakow.

Goeth was found guilty on September 5, 1946 and executed on the 13.

Mr Caldwell-Adams added: 'The prison record only says two words: "He died". The Polish archives have been 80 per cent sure that it was him.

'We knew the WFDIF had the original film and when we went to them they said the film on the internet was theirs and they were 80 per cent sure it was Goeth.

'When you think about the end of the war, Poland was a mess.

'They weren't terribly concerned by the accuracy of the records so the video may have just been dumped on a table and mislabeled.

'The clip was later used in a documentary about Goeth and uploaded to YouTube and it has all perpetuated the myth.

'People in Krakow are aware of Goeth but he has slightly been forgotten.

'Schindler's List gave us a hero and a villain, but without remembering the villain we can forget the hero and what he fought against.'

In Steven Spielberg's 1993 masterpiece Schindler's List, Goeth was played by Ralph Fiennes - winning a Bafta for Best Supporting Actor.

Fiennes' portrayal led to Goeth being named as the 15th biggest villain in movie history by the American Film Institute.

Oskar Schindler, played by Liam Neeson, was named 15th top hero.

'Bloody Tales' is on Monday, March 25 at 8pm on the National Geographic Channel.

LUDWIG FISCHER: THE WAR CRIMINAL WHO CREATED THE WARSAW GHETTO
Historians believe the video of the botched execution actually shows Dr Ludwig Fischer

Historians believe the video of the botched execution actually shows Dr Ludwig Fischer

Dr Ludwig Fischer was a Nazi lawyer, politician and war criminal, who was responsible for creating the Warsaw Ghetto.

Born into a Catholic family, he joined the National Socialist party in 1926 and rose to the senior rank of Gruppenführer.

He was elected to the Reichstag in 1937 - two years before the outbreak of World War Two.

After the invasion of Poland in 1939, Fischer was appointed Governor of the Warsaw District and held the position until the withdrawal of German forces in January 1945.

Fischer issues anti-Semitic laws and was responsible for mass executions, slave labour programmes and sending Polish Jews to concentration camps.

He survived an attempted assassination attempt in 1944 before the Warsaw Uprising and was arrested a year later by the Allied forces and handed over the the Police authorities.

He was tried before the Supreme National Tribunal and sentenced to death.

Fischer was executed by hanging at the age of 41 on March 8, 1947, in Warsaw's Mokotów Prison.



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You'll have to click through for the pics/video.

Mike White
March 21st, 2013, 12:07 PM
The Daily Mail can suck my plums, I don't trust these scum bags, there that starved for stories they always have to put useless tripe in about anything thats not left wing, biased scum bags

Bev
March 21st, 2013, 12:23 PM
The Daily Mail can suck my plums, I don't trust these scum bags, there that starved for stories they always have to put useless tripe in about anything thats not left wing, biased scum bags

It's very clever, what they do. They allow readers a certain amount of estremist islam/Polish/Bulgarian/immigration moaning, then they print all these stories by the side of them. Then when they print a story about what Israel is up to in Palestine or Iran or whatever that might inspire people to comment negatively on its behaviour, they feel guilty about doing so.

andy
March 21st, 2013, 12:29 PM
Good find! I'll post it in full in case it disappears.




You'll have to click through for the pics/video.

The bloke being hung does not have the same ears as Goeth, Goeth's stick out the bloke being hung has ears close to his head.The hanged man also has much thicker hair than Goeth unlikely considering the circumstances of Goeth ie sick with diabetes and in and out of prison since 1944.

andy
March 21st, 2013, 12:33 PM
You get a good close up of one of said ears here as he is strangling to death

Amon Goeth Execution w/Musical Score, Poland, 1946 - YouTube

Bev
March 21st, 2013, 12:34 PM
The bloke being hung does not have the same ears as Goeth, Goeth's stick out the bloke being hung has ears close to his head.The hanged man also has much thicker hair than Goeth unlikely considering the circumstances of Goeth ie sick with diabetes and in and out of prison since 1944.

Even if it wasn't him, he's almost certainly dead by now though I bet that won't stop a worldwide hunt for him.

Henry.
March 21st, 2013, 12:36 PM
I think the Mail's got this one right.

The hanged man didn't look anything like Ralph Fiennes.....

Bev
March 21st, 2013, 12:40 PM
I think the Mail's got this one right.

The hanged man didn't look anything like Ralph Fiennes.....

Made me lol.

I think the video clip on the DM page is the actual execution though, (well, it cuts just before) not a Ralph Fiennes clip.

Henry.
March 21st, 2013, 12:48 PM
Made me lol.

I think the video clip on the DM page is the actual execution though, (well, it cuts just before) not a Ralph Fiennes clip.
I'll take your word on it cuz I can't be arsed to see for myself :)

Bev
March 23rd, 2013, 01:01 PM
They were the children of the damned – Jews who had no place in the New World Order of Adolf Hitler and his stormtroopers.

Their parents were rounded up and shipped off to die as the Nazi regime which came to power 80 years ago in Germany - set about the systematic 'cleansing' of the country.

But there were good people too; people who looked beyond the religion of an innocent child and risked death by guillotine to hide them from the round-up squads.

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Survivor: Rahel Mann pictured in 1939 and outside her outside her Berlin home earlier this year. She was among the many Jewish children hidden from the Nazis during the WWII

Now the heart-moving stories of 15 of these children are told for the first time in a book published this week in Berlin called 'You Don't Get Us.'

The book, by Tina Huettl and Alexander Meschnig will be released in English later this year.

The survivors include Rahel Renate Mann, 75, who still lives in Berlin where she was hidden all those years ago.


Thrown out of hospital in June 1937 hours after she was born because of her mother's Jewishness, her mother Edith later had her baptized in the hope that it would save her from the Holocaust to come.

They lived in a tiny apartment with a Jewish star pinned on the door by the local Gestapo thugs.

When her mother was at work little Rahel played with Frau Vater, who acted as the Nazi spy for the building on the other residents, but who nonetheless liked Rahel.

The Nazis came in 1941 and took her mother away but Rahel was saved by the Vater family and fostered to another Jewish family in the building.

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Threat: Hitler pictured with a group of SA-soldiers. Many children were hidden away when the Nazi regime rounded up hundreds of thousands of Jews and shipped them off to concentration camps

Then the Nazis came the following year for them. 'Mr. Vater saved me by saying I was his niece,' she said.

After this she went underground, passing from family to family, from cellar to secret cellar, staying one step ahead of the death squads shipping all Jews off to be exterminated in the death camps in occupied Poland.

She remembers a pastor called Eitel-Friedrich von Rabenau of Apostle Paul Church. He tells her about Jesus, sings Hebrew songs with her in the darkness of her hiding place in the church crypt. 'For the first time,' she says, 'I felt loved.'

When she was seven, the Gestapo arrested the pastor and Rahel was given back to the Vater family. Frau Vater built a secret compartment in the family cellar.


'I spent all day on a cold stone floor sitting on a mattress, just a sliver of light coming in through a nailed down, grimy window,' she said.

'I could not cry, talk, make any noise at all.' She taught herself to read using a children's book and a friend of the Vater family came to stay with her sometimes to pass the boredom.

'This was 1944 and the air raids were pummelling Berlin now,' she recalled. 'I was taken up after a particularly heavy one and breathed fresh air for the first time in a year.

'There was barely a house standing and there were dead bodies everywhere. The image has always haunted me.'

Then in 1945, after several more months in the cellar, the Russian soldiers arrive and haul her out of her hiding place. She is reunited with her mother shortly afterwards, but she is deathly ill with TB from a concentration camp.

'I felt so guilty as I grew up and learned about the Holocaust,' she said. 'I thought; 'Why did I live when so many had to die?' When I was 17 I tried to kill myself by throwing myself underneath a car, but the driver stopped and gave me a clip around the ear. It brought me to my senses.'

She went on to live for a decade in Israel before returning to her native Berlin where she now acts as a helper for the terminally ill in a hospice.

'My childhood taught me the value of living every second of your life,' she said. 'I survived the Nazis and that is the greatest gift of all.'

Eugen Herman-Friede had Jewish parents who separated early. His mother went on to marry a non-Jewish man, Julius Friede, and it is only after Eugen starts school that he learns of his roots.

He went to school but was booted out in 1936, aged 10, because he was branded a 'Jewish pig.' Later he was forced to wear the yellow star on his clothes - the Nazi branding of Jews as 'outsiders.'

In 1942, the Nazis closed all Jewish schools and he was sent to perform forced labour for the Reich. In 1943, weakened from lack of food, he decides to become a 'U-Boat' - the Nazi term for Jews, 6,000 in all, who went into hiding in Berlin.


He said goodbye to his girlfriend Helga Weissblut, 16. He would never see her again: she was shipped off to be murdered at the ultimate Nazi death factory of Auschwitz.

He lived in numerous hideouts, coalsheds, cellars until he reached the non-Jewish family Winkler whose son was in the Hitler Youth but who had come to detest the Nazis. 'They were warm hearted, courageous and unselfish,' says Eugem today.

'Ask yourself: would you be willing to put your neck on the block of the guillotine for people you didn't know?' He was even able to wear the Hitler Youth uniform to walk about in and was photographed in it.



The Winklers founded a resistance group but it was informed upon and in December 1944, Eugen was arrested with his parents but they were not executed as the Gestapo wanted more information about the resistance group.

They were still in prison when the war ended. 'Now I make it my
business to tell people I wasn't the hero, but those people who gave us food and shelter and hope,' he said.

'I was already doomed: they chose to defy doom when they could have looked the other way. That made them heroes.'

Rolf Joseph, now 92, says he had a normal childhood with his brother Alfred in Berlin's working class Wedding district - until the day in 1933 when the Nazis came to power and the teacher wore a 'brownshirt' uniform instead of a suit and tie.

'And he had a cane,' he said. 'And he liked to hit the Jewish children with it a lot.'

During his apprenticeship as a carpenter he recalls cycling home from school on November 9 1938 and seeing flames light up the sky. This was Kristallnacht, the Night of the Broken Glass when the Nazis instigated a statewide pogram against the Jews.

'When I saw our synagogues burn,' he said, 'I knew I had to go.' He tried to persuade his father to leave, but the stubborn WW1 veteran, who fought for the Kaiser in the trenches in France, said; 'Nothing will happen to us.'

On June 6 1942, Rolf and Alfred were on the corner of their street when they saw Gestapo men bundling and kicking their parents into a car to take them away. They never saw them again.

'Suddenly we were homeless,' says Rolf . 'Our apartment was sealed, we had only the things we carried on our backs.' They, too, went underground, first spending three weeks sleeping under leaves in the city's Tegel Forest before seeking more permanent help.

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As a youngster, Rolf Joseph, 88, witnessed Kristallnacht when Nazi thugs ramaged through Germany attacking Jews and Jewish businesses

Alfred found shelter with the family of a former girlfriend, Rolf with a rag and bone woman. 'She was a strange woman with many quirks, but a good heart,' he recalled.

He was stuffed into a cellar in the Wedding district, not far from where he used to live, and ventured out cautiously once a week to meet his brother - 11.00am every Wednesday. But on one Autumn day in 1942, Alfred doesn't turn up.

'I was wondering what happened when suddenly there was this sharp voice at my shoulder,' said Rolf. 'I turned around and saw a soldier in uniform. 'Why aren't you in the Wehrmacht?' he barked. 'I told him I worked in the munitions industry.'

The soldier demanded his papers; Rolf produced a bad fake of an ID card bearing the name Paul Wagner. 'Well, Mr. Wagner, you had better come along with us,' said the soldier, motioning to a comrade sitting in a nearby car.

'Are you Jewish?' asked the soldier. Rolf nodded and his fate was sealed - he was delivered to the Burgstrasse Gestapo office in the centre of town.

Rolf went on; 'I was interrogated for hours. I was interrogated for hours. They wanted to know about where my brother is and where I hid.'

He said nothing, was moved to a basement cell and told to strip. 'We get everything in the end, you know' said a Gestapo torturer who proceeded to beat him with a bullwhip.

'You remember that address of your brother now?' he asked after administering 25 lashes. There came 25 more lashes. The silent Rolf was thrown into a cell known as Bunker Number One where he could not sit upright and he heard low voices outside saying; 'The transport to Auschwitz leaves tomorrow....'

The next morning, Rolf Joseph was chained together with five other young men and driven in a van like the one which had taken his parents away.

Above the driver's cab, Rolf saw a toolbox and he stole a pair of pliers with the aid of his fellow prisoners. They were in his pocket when he and the rest were deposited at the Pulitzstrasse train station.

A long freight train composed of cattle cars waits for them. 'They were bedecked with straw and bucket for the necessaries were in the corners.' Thousands were crammed into cars then the doors were shut and the whistle blew.

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Terror: A pedestrian looks at the wreckage of a Jewish shop in Berlin on Nov. 10, 1938, or Kristallnacht, the Night of the Broken Glass when the Nazis instigated a statewide program against the Jews

The train rattled towards Auschwitz. Using the pliers he managed to free himself from his handcuffs and those of his fellow prisoners. All six of them then prised a plank loose from the wagon and jumped inot the night air as the train crossed into Poland.

But they were betrayed by a shepherd as they walked back to Berlin, arrested again by the Gestapo. And at Burgstrasse, Rolf is again severely beaten by the man with the bullwhip, beatings which have left him with epileptic seizures to this day.

In the Gestapo HQ he scratched his body all over, claiming he had scarlet fever.. 'That was a really good idea - the Germans were really scared of infections,' he said. Weighing 93lbs, he was shipped to a Jewish hospital; his fellow escapees were shot.

At the hospital, with a guard outside his door, he manages to jump out of the second floor window by squeezing past the bars. But he has broken bones in his back by the time he drags himself to the old hiding place with the rag and bone woman - to find his brother sheltering there.

The two survived in her cellar sanctuary until it was hit by an RAF incendiary and they had to move out to the suburbs near Bernau where the old lady owned some land and they built an underground bunker to live in.

One morning in late April 1945, Russian soldiers come face to face with Rolf and Alfred Joseph in their hideyhole. 'You SS? Nazi? ', they ask in broken German.

'No, no,' says Rolf Joseph. But they brought him to their CO who happened to be Jewish. 'He asked me to say a prayer in Hebrew and I did and he said we were free men.'

Now, as Berlin remembers the Nazis and their takeover of power 80 years ago, Rolf did not live to see the anniversary or the book; he died two months before it was published, but before he passed away he said: 'I remember every day. The dead, the hopeless and the heroic.

'People who gave us life because they found it in their hearts to act with dignity towards other human beings.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2298027/The-little-ones-got-away-Incredible-stories-Jewish-children-survived-Nazi-holocaust.html

Bev
March 24th, 2013, 04:11 AM
Saplings from the chestnut tree that stood as a symbol of hope for Anne Frank as she hid from the Nazis for two years in Amsterdam are being distributed to 11 locations in the United States as part of a project that aims to preserve her legacy and promote tolerance.

The tree, one of the Jewish teenager's only connections to nature while she hid with her family, was diseased and rotted through the trunk when wind and heavy rain toppled it in August 2010.

But saplings grown from its seeds will be planted starting in April, when the Children's Museum of Indianapolis will put the first one in the ground.

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Hope lives on: Mary Fortney, learning resource development manager at the Indianapolis Children's Museum, looks over chestnut saplings from the tree outside Anne Frank's hiding spot in Amsterdam being cared for in the museum's greenhouse in Indianapolis.

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Tragic: A replica of the Anne Frank Diary is displayed at the Indianapolis Children's Museum in Indianapolis

The 11 U.S. locations, which also include a park memorializing 9-11 victims in New York City, an Arkansas high school that was the heart of the desegregation battle and Holocaust centers in Michigan and Washington state were chosen by The Anne Frank Center USA from 34 applicants.

Winners were selected based on their commitment to equality, demonstration of the consequences of intolerance or historical significance to civil rights and social justice in the U.S., according to a news release from the center.

"The heart of our mission is tolerance. ... Tolerance is really essential for being able to bring better welfare to everybody," said center spokesman Mike Clary.

The tree is referenced several times in the diary that Anne Frank kept during the 25 months she remained indoors until her family was arrested in August 1944.

"Nearly every morning I go to the attic to blow the stuffy air out of my lungs," she wrote on Feb. 23, 1944.

"From my favorite spot on the floor I look up at the blue sky and the bare chestnut tree, on whose branches little raindrops shine, appearing like silver, and at the seagulls and other birds as they glide on the wind."

A global campaign to save the chestnut was launched in 2007 after city officials deemed it a safety hazard and ordered it taken down. The tree was granted a last-minute reprieve after a battle in court, but age and nature ultimately brought it down.


Jeffrey Patchen, president and chief executive officer of the Children's Museum of Indianapolis, said the sapling planted in the museum's Peace Park will stand next to a limestone carving of a podium with Anne's diary on it.

A mock chestnut tree looms over the entrance to the museum's permanent Anne Frank exhibit, which features live performances in a space that teaches visitors about life in the Secret Annex where the Franks hid.

"We're taking the lead in producing the educational materials that will go along with the tree," Patchen said. "We're producing this unit of study ... that focuses heavily on the humanities and presents the tree through selections of her diary and ... as a symbol of renewal."

Central High School in Little Rock, Ark. plans to plant its sapling in September, on the 56th anniversary of the previously segregated high school's integration. A group of black students called the Little Rock Nine, who braved angry mobs in the fall of 1957 to integrate the school, became a symbol of the civil rights movement.

"Both (Anne Frank and the Little Rock Nine) dealt with hatred from ignorant people," said Nancy Rousseau, the school's principal. "All of them displayed great bravery and courage, which wasn't necessarily seen then or now, also, in adults. They were all children."


Other states that have sites receiving saplings are Massachusetts, Idaho and California.

The Anne Frank Center wants the sapling project to go beyond the initial planting of the trees. The center is launching an education initiative called Confronting Intolerance Today that will encompass a "teaching and discovery" website to create dialogue and show how the sites are using the sapling project to advance tolerance, a distinguished speaker series and temporary exhibits from the center that will show the history of Anne Frank.

"We know that the tree was a sign of hope of Anne Frank who was unable to leave her living quarters," said Yvonne Simons, executive director of The Anne Frank Center USA. "She wrote about it in a diary. For us, the tree portrays a symbolism of hope and growth and renewal."

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Bev
March 25th, 2013, 06:22 AM
A new exhibition in Germany about archaeology under the Nazis shows how the regime launched a 'Last Crusade' expedition in wartime to find the Holy Grail from the Last Supper of Christ.

In the 1989 Last Crusade movie, Indiana Jones played by Harrison Ford was on the quest for the grail - and he was in competition with the Nazis.

Now truth turns out to be stranger than fiction in the exhibition 'Dig for Germania. Archaeology under the Swastika' in Bremen. It tells how S.S. chief Heinrich Himmler allegedly visited Spain during the war because he believed the grail was at the Montserrat Abbey near Barcelona.


The chief architect and manager of the Nazi Holocaust believed that finding the grail 'would help Germany win the war and give him supernatural powers.'

Squads of S.S. men searched in vain for the grail. The S.S. budget for such projects was vast as the Nazis intended their finds to rewrite history to prove Germans were the greatest race in all history.



Before Hitler came to power there were just a handful of professorships in archaeology; afterwards there were 24, all tasked with promoting this claptrap theory while finding as many rare artefacts as possible from around the globe.

'If we want to again become a large, single people, we must build on the time, where the Nordic racial nucleus was still pure and unadulterated and which combined with a splendid culture which influenced all over Europe,' said Hans Reinerth, Hitler's favourite archaeologist.


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Hocus pocus: Heinrich Himmler, left, shared the hocus-pocus belief with his boss Hitler that Jesus Christ was actually descended from Aryan stock and visited Spain in search of the Grail

Hocus pocus: Heinrich Himmler, left, shared the hocus-pocus belief with his boss Adolf Hitler, right, that Jesus Christ was actually descended from Aryan stock and visited Spain in search of the Grail

Far from being the 'King of the Jews,' Himmler shared the hocus-pocus belief with his boss Hitler that Jesus Christ was actually descended from Aryan stock - the race which Hitler decreed was to rule the world for 1,000 years.

'This is the time of Germanic antiquity, the German prehistory', he added. Visitors to the exhibition are informed: 'The Nazis sought to establish the image of blonde, blue-eyed heroes and conquerors who were the ancestors of the Germans and that their race was summoned for world domination.'

When the Nazi war machine rolled eastwards to conquer the Soviet Union in 1941, the archaeologists were in their wake, using slave labourers to dig up evidence of 'German superior race-colonies' that inhabited the lands back in the distant past.

The exhibition tells the visitor that many died in the hunt for artefacts trying to underwrite this racial myth.


'Archaeologists often planned these crimes or worked on their own initiative', said historian of Dirk Mahsarski, who curated the exhibition hall at the Bremen Focke Museum. 'There are a whole bunch of archaeologists of whom we can safely say that they knew about the Holocaust and the suffering of forced laborers.'

The exhibition chronicles how two of the Third Reich's most powerful men - Himmler and Alfred Rosenberg, the Nazi party racial philosopher - competed with separate archaeological teams to dig for artefacts to support Nazi theories. Himmler even sent a team of S.S. men to Tibet before the war to try to discover the mythical lost kingdom of Shangri La.

Mostly the Nazis discovered pottery and bits of jewellery, all of which were used to promote their berserk racial theories; the treasure, like the Holy Grail, eluded them.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2298716/The-REAL-Last-Crusade-Nazi-search-Holy-Grail-inspired-Indiana-Jones.html

Bev
March 26th, 2013, 05:46 AM
Currently the headline story.....


These chilling colour photographs show some of the earliest victims of the Nazi's fledgling concentration camp system and the horrifying conditions they were forced to endure.

Immediately after Hitler became chancellor in 1933, the Nazis began rounding up tens of thousands of 'undesirables' - communists, social democrats, union officials, homosexuals, Jehovah's witnesses as well as common criminals.

The SA, SS, the police, and local civilian authorities organised numerous detention camps to incarcerate and torture their opponents. Most of these early camps closed down just a few weeks after they were opened, but many survived. Prototypes for the terrifying system that lay ahead.

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Persecuted: These colour photos show the earliest concentration camps set up by the Nazis after they took power. When Hitler was appointed chancellor in 1933 he quickly incarcerated and neutralised those he saw as a threat. As his power grew, so did the number of concentration camps, reaching 40,000 by the end of the war

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Detained: The first prisoners held in the camps were political enemies, such as Communists, and union organisers opposed to Hitler's regime

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The first concentration camps were set up in early 1933 and their numbers expanded rapidly after the Reichstag Fire

It is not known exactly when and where these pictures, which were posted on the Vintage Everyday website, were taken. Some, including one terrible image of prisoners loaded into a train carriage, would appear to have be taken towards the end of the war, however most are believed to date from before 1939.

The SS established larger camps in Oranienburg, Esterwegen, Dachau and a facility for women in Lichtenburg, Saxony. In Berlin itself, the Columbia Haus facility held prisoners under investigation by the Gestapo (the German secret state police) until 1936.

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From the mid-1930s onwards other 'undesirables' were rounded up including homeless, beggars, prostitutes, the ‘work-shy’, gypsies and alcoholics. By this time the role of the camps was beginning to change from temporary internment to permanent exclusion from society

A system of triangle badges was used to identify the inmates; Political prisoners wore a red triangle, criminals green, homosexuals pink and Jehovah’s Witnesses purple. Jewish prisoners were forced to wear an additional yellow Star of David under their classification triangle.

In 1934 Hitler authorised SS leader, Heinrich Himmler, to formalise the administration of the concentration camps into a system.

Himmler chose SS Lieutenant General Theodor Eicke for this task as he had been the commandant of the SS concentration camp at Dachau since June 1933. Himmler appointed him Inspector of Concentration Camps, a new section of the SS.

The organisation, structure, and practice developed at Dachau in 1933-1934 became the model for the Nazi concentration camp system as it expanded.

Eicke issued regulations both for the duties of the guards and for treatment of the prisoners. Among his early trainees at Dachau was Rudolf Höss, who later commanded the notorious Auschwitz concentration camp.

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Some of the men are in uniform and those that aren't appear bedraggled and unkempt

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This image shows an exhausted prisoner asleep against a wall. The camps were a vital terror tool wielded by the SS and SA

As Nazi Germany expanded between 1938 and 1939, the numbers of those labeled as political opponents and social deviants increased, requiring the establishment of new concentration camps.

While most people associate concentration camps with the Jewish holocaust in the early years, Jews formed were a small minority of prisoners. Of course this would change and by 1938 Jewish men were being rounded up and shipped off to the camps dramatically increasing the prisoner population.

By the time the Germans invaded Poland in September 1939, unleashing World War II, there were six concentration camps in the so-called Greater German Reich: Dachau, Sachsenhausen, Buchenwald, Flossenbürg, Mauthausen in Austria and Ravensbrück, the women's camp.

As the war raged the concentration camps increasingly became sites where the SS authorities could kill targeted groups of real or perceived enemies of Nazi Germany.

They also came to serve as holding centers for a growing pool of forced laborers deployed on construction projects, industrial sites, and, by 1942, in the production of armaments and weapons for the German war effort.

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German authorities established camps all over Germany to handle the masses of people arrested as alleged subversives

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Rations: Bread is doled out among the prisoners. Starvation was itself a weapon used on the inmates
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SS Lieutenant General Theodor Eicke was appointed to oversee the Concentration Camps by Himmler in 1933

Conditions were horrific. Dangerous work was undertaken with scant regard for human life and the prisoners were often fatally undernourished. Some grew to believe the back-breaking work was in itself an attempt to kill them off.

Between 1939 and 1942 the Nazis were rounding up more and more prisoners in the camps, including those they deemed racially inferior, such as Roma gypsies and Jews.

constructed gas chambers to efficiently murder people at several of the concentration camps. Gas chambers were constructed at Mauthausen, Sachsenhausen, Auschwitz, and other camps. A gas chamber was constructed later at Dachau, but never used.

By the end of 1933 the network of concentration camps held around 45,000 prisoners. By the close of the Second World War there was a network of over 40,000 facilities in Germany and German-occupied territory.

An estimated six million Jews and millions more Poles, Russian soldiers, gypsies, homosexuals and other 'undesirables' lost their lives in the camps.

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Merciless: The dead are loaded onto a train for disposal

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Spartan: The austere accommodation the prisoners were forced to live in can be seen on the right, while the barbed wire fence can be seen on the left

VIDEO First German colour footage from inside a concentration camp at Dachau (click for the video - can't link it)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2299219/The-colour-darkness-Vivid-pictures-Nazi-concentration-camps-chilling-insight-dawn-Holocaust.html

Bev
March 26th, 2013, 02:31 PM
Pictures of Benito Mussolini's last wartime bunker that he built to protect him from an RAF bomb attack have been released for the first time.

The reinforced concrete cell, constructed 50ft below the former fascist headquarters in Rome, was so secret it was not discovered until 2011.

Historians believe Mussolini, one of Hitler's closest allies during the Second World War, had the underground bunker built for himself and his mistress Claretta Petacci.

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Experts believe Mussolini's 'last bunker' was made for him and his mistress Claretta Petacci


The nine room chamber was located so that it could be accessed within seconds of an attempted assassination attempt.

It is due to be opened to the public for the first time, two years after it was discovered under the building, which is now a museum.


Engineers stumbled across the chamber when they found an iron hatch while doing structural repairs on the foundations of the headquarters.

The 80 square metre reinforced bunker opened onto a flight of brick stairs, which led down to a number of compartments.

Architect Carlo Serafini told La Stampa newspaper: 'When we saw the reinforced concrete, it was clear. It’s the twelfth bunker of Rome -- Benito Mussolini’s last bunker.

'It would have probably only been designed for Mussolini himself and one other person; more than likely his mistress, Claretta Petacci.

'The structure is still solid, it probably would have withstood a bombardment, although it would have depended on the force of the explosion. It was certainly well hidden.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2298968/Inside-Mussolinis-wartime-bunker-First-pictures-fascist-leaders-secret-lair-built-protect-RAF-strike-Rome-headquarters.html

More pics/video on the link.

andy
March 27th, 2013, 09:51 AM
This blighter led a fifty year vendetta against David Irving.It now transpires that he is a lifelong paedophile with allegations dating back to the 70's

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/10315571.Former_BBC_reporter_accused_of_sex_assaults_on_boys/

A FORMER BBC reporter appeared in court yesterday facing charges of indecent assault against boys under the age of 14.

Clifford Luton, aged 88, arrived at Bournemouth Magistrates Court in a wheelchair yesterday morning to hear the charges against him, which date back to the 1970s and ’80s.

The 88-year-old was also charged with 29 counts of possessing an indecent image of a child, including photographs in the most serious category.

Luton, from Ashley Road in Parkstone, did not enter a plea to any of the charges.

The prosecution told the court: “This is a case which both the Crown and defence agree should be under the jurisdiction of the Crown Court.”

Luton worked for the BBC in the 1960s and ’70s reporting on major issues for the time, including the Troubles in Northern Ireland, the Cod Wars with Iceland, the attempted kidnapping of Princess Anne, and the Lebanese Civil War.

In 1967 he chartered a plane to search for round-the-world sailor Francis Chichester, who had gone missing in a storm around Cape Horn.


He also worked for the Daily Mail, for whom he interviewed infamous historian David Irving in the 1950s.

Magistrates agreed to commit the case to Crown Court for May 21.

Luton was released on bail under condition that he has no contact with children aged under-18, |with a small number of named exceptions under supervision.

Bev
March 31st, 2013, 07:41 AM
They were Britain’s ‘secret army’, courageous volunteers prepared to sacrifice their lives to fight against a Nazi invasion of the UK.

Issued with top-secret orders, their role has remained unsung for decades. But now the undercover resistance units Churchill planned to activate in the event of a German invasion during the Second World War are at last to be honoured.

The Royal British Legion has agreed to officially recognise the 4,000 volunteers who once formed the secret guerrilla cells created to resist the Nazis. And for the first time, former members are to parade with other veterans at this year’s Remembrance Day ceremonies at the Cenotaph.

If wartime church bells rang to warn of enemy invasion, the orders for the Auxiliary Unit volunteers were to disappear without telling anyone and to report to hidden bases in the countryside.

Each was issued with sealed orders giving a list of potential collaborators, some as senior as county chief constables, who might have to be executed if there was a risk of them helping the Germans.

Most of the volunteers worked in the countryside and were chosen for their knowledge of the local area and ability to use a weapon.

Trained at Coleshill, in Oxfordshire, they operated in tight groups and their role was to disrupt and destroy the enemy’s supply chain, kill collaborators and take out strategic targets. Unable to tell anyone about their activities, they disguised their real mission by pretending to belong to the Home Guard.

Tom Sykes, of the Coleshill Auxiliary Research Team, which has campaigned for the men to be honoured, is delighted by the RBL’s decision. ‘Many of these veterans were in reserved occupations and could not join the regular Forces,’ he said. ‘But when the call came, they did not hesitate to join what would have been a suicide mission to confront the enemy.



‘They were taught cutting-edge guerrilla warfare and even used Thompson sub-machine guns before they were given to the British Army.

‘But they were sworn to secrecy and sadly suffered taunts and were sent white feathers by people who thought they were cowards for not fighting.



‘Thankfully, the invasion never came and many who joined feel they did not contribute. Nothing could be further from the truth, as I’m sure the majority would agree. They signed the Official Secrets Act and many still believe their memories should be carried to the grave.’

Trevor Miners, 86, from Perranporth, Cornwall, joined an Auxiliary Unit at 16. He says: ‘Our base was in an old mineshaft at a local farm. We learned to make booby traps and explosives, and how to blow up fuel dumps. We learned unarmed combat and we had all sorts of weapons. No one knew the secret army existed.’

Andy Gwynne, who is co-ordinating the Auxiliaries for the march, is anxious to trace former volunteers so the nation can recognise their bravery. He urged them to contact staybehinds.com or call 0872 045 9940.

He added: ‘The march allows the public to learn about them and might also encourage the Government to honour them.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2301720/Churchills-secret-guerillas-poised-execute-senior-British-figures-risk-helping-Germans-Nazi-invasion.html

john-connor
April 2nd, 2013, 08:08 AM
It may sound like a something a Bond villain would propose, but these amazing pictures reveal the secret plans drawn up by the German army to create a mile-wide 'space gun' powered by the sun.

The giant mirror could be used to focus the sun on a target - rather like the magnifying glasses often used by children to create fire.

The pictures, from Life magazine in 1945, reveal to its readers how 'U.S. Army technical experts came up with the astonishing fact that German scientists had seriously planned to build a ‘sun gun’.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2302786/The-secret-Nazi-plan-blow-cities-giant-mile-wide-SUN-GUN.html#ixzz2PJMLVV6D
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Bev
April 3rd, 2013, 09:34 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/03/article-2303250-190E4C81000005DC-516_964x1242.jpg

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In Paris, a young couple lounge reading the papers on a wall before the majestic rise of the Eiffel Tower, the city's most well-known landmark.


Unbeknownst to them, an apparition of Adolf Hitler, Europe's most notorious modern-day dictator stands victoriously beside them after his Wehrmacht forces took the French capital by force.

And on the beaches of Normandy, the ghosts of the soldiers who brought freedom back to the continent re-enact their daring invasion, leaping from their landing craft as a mother and daughter look for crabs in the chilly waters.


These moving images match photographs of locations in the present day with the ghosts of the momentous historical events that happened there.

Created by photographer Seth Taras, they were the basis of a 2010 ad campaign for the History Channel - accompanied by the poignant message 'Know where you stand'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303250/The-poignant-images-combine-present-day-locations-momentous-historical-events-took-place-there.html

Gratuitous mention or what.....!

Kajtimar
April 3rd, 2013, 01:21 PM
Thanks for clarification. What about his niece though?
He had a few brief affairs when younger, and seems to have really been in love with his half-niece, Geli Raubal.
--- Speer, Albert (1971). Inside the Third Reich. New York: Avon. ISBN 978-0-380-00071-5

Otto Strasser, claimed that the Nazi dictator forced his niece Geli Raubal to urinate and defecate on him.
--- Oliver Cyriax. Crime: An Encyclopedia. Andre Deutsch: 1993, S. 135

Raubal was dead from a gunshot wound to the lung; she had shot herself in the Munich apartment with Hitler's pistol. She was 23.
--- Kershaw, Ian (2008). Hitler: A Biography. New York: W. W. Norton & Company. ISBN 978-0-393-06757-6

Hitler later declared that Raubal was the only woman he had ever loved. Her room at the Berghof was kept as she had left it, and he hung portraits of her in his own room there and at the Chancellery in Berlin.
--- Kershaw, Ian (2008). Hitler: A Biography. New York: W. W. Norton & Company. ISBN 978-0-393-06757-6

*shrug*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_of_Adolf_Hitler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geli_Raubal

Bev
April 3rd, 2013, 01:43 PM
lol wiki

http://troll.me/images/beavis-and-butthead-lol/dumbass.jpg

Bev
April 3rd, 2013, 03:12 PM
*shrug*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_of_Adolf_Hitler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geli_Raubal


Still waiting.

Kajtimar
April 3rd, 2013, 03:14 PM
Still waiting.

In case you haven't noticed:

--- Speer, Albert (1971). Inside the Third Reich. New York: Avon. ISBN 978-0-380-00071-5
--- Oliver Cyriax. Crime: An Encyclopedia. Andre Deutsch: 1993, S. 135
--- Kershaw, Ian (2008). Hitler: A Biography. New York: W. W. Norton & Company. ISBN 978-0-393-06757-6

Bev
April 3rd, 2013, 03:16 PM
In case you haven't noticed:

--- Speer, Albert (1971). Inside the Third Reich. New York: Avon. ISBN 978-0-380-00071-5
--- Oliver Cyriax. Crime: An Encyclopedia. Andre Deutsch: 1993, S. 135
--- Kershaw, Ian (2008). Hitler: A Biography. New York: W. W. Norton & Company. ISBN 978-0-393-06757-6

Like I said - still waiting.

Bev
April 6th, 2013, 06:38 AM
This - a new film being filmed - is not news but when you publish a story about herpes, circumcision and rabbis, you gotta get a gratuitous mention in somewhere.


George Clooney's new film about a group of art historians who saved paintings from Adolf Hitler's clutches has begun production in Berlin.

Monuments Men is based on factual events, and as well as directing the drama, George has also cast himself in the starring role.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2304445/Cate-Blanchett-George-Clooney-Clark-Gable-style-mustache-flashback-1940s-Berlin.html

Fascist football manager.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304852/A-fascist-just-fool-David-Jones-uncovers-troubling-past-Britains-outrageous-football-boss.html

Bev
April 6th, 2013, 06:44 AM
A Jewish matriarch was so determined to protect her family from Nazi persecution, she hid herself and them in an underground cave until their country was liberated - eighteen months later.

Esther Stermer lived a peaceful, rural existence in a small Ukrainian village with her six children until the Germans invaded in late 1941.

Hellbent on annihilating the Jewish people, the soldiers rounded up more than a thousand Jews and sent them to their deaths.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304533/Jewish-Stermer-family-Ukraine-hid-cave-escape-Holocaust.html


World War II photographs showing the liberation of the first Nazi concentration camp discovered by U.S. forces have now inspired the grandson of the soldier who took them to make a documentary about the holocaust.

The moving set of 16 photographs shows survivors of the Ohrdruf concentration camp. Many are on the brink of starvation, others are being treated by U.S army doctors.

The photographer Ron Johnson, then a lieutenant and army medic, had mentioned then to his grandson Matthew Nash only once before he died in 1991.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303820/Grandfathers-hidden-photos-liberation-Nazi-concentration-camp-inspire-holocaust-film.html

Karl Radl
April 6th, 2013, 10:39 AM
*shrug*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_of_Adolf_Hitler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geli_Raubal

Ah typical commie moron misrepresenting what Kershaw actually says.

It was different with Geli. Whatever the exact nature of the relationship - and all accounts are based heavily on guesswork and hearsay - it seems certain that Hitler, for the first and only time in his life (if we leave his mother out of consideration), became emotionally dependent on a woman. Whether his involvement with Geli was explicitly sexual cannot be known beyond doubt.

(Ian Kershaw, 2001, 'Hitler', Vol. I, 1st Edition, Penguin: New York, p. 352)

In the above Kershaw is making it abundantly clear (as did Ron Rosenbaum in 'Explaining Hitler' for example) that we don't and cannot know the exact nature of their relationship other than the fact that they were both very close to each other. We have little reason (other than lurid speculation) to suggest that it was sexual (Kershaw makes this quite clear in his discussion on pp. 353-353) and we have even less reason to think that Hitler had anything to do with Geli's suicide other than his (according to Geli's mother) forbidding Geli from marrying a violinist who she had been seeing especially as he wasn't in Munich at the time!

Oh and Otto Strasser is possibly one of the least reliable sources on Hitler there is.

I quote further down page 352 in Kershaw:

But lurid stories of alleged deviant sexual practices put about by Otto Strasser ought to be viewed as fanciful anti-Hitler propaganda of an outright political enemy.

Kajtimar
April 6th, 2013, 12:32 PM
As a matter of fact, no, I was not "misrepresenting" the text, I was merely showing the facts to VNN neo-Nazis.

we have even less reason to think that Hitler had anything to do with Geli's suicide
I did not state that Hitler had something to do with Geli's suicide, "Einsatzgruppe Commander".

Oh and Otto Strasser is possibly one of the least reliable sources on Hitler there is.
Oh, that's just your opinion.


Leaving Hitler's love life aside, history would be much different, if Hitler's father would have retained his real surname - Schicklgruber (Heil Schicklgruber! :rofl Not a pleasant salute. :-)

History would be much different, if the Austrian legislation would have not permitted the marriage of cousins twice removed.

History would be much different, if Hitler had died at birth - first three children of Klara Hitler died at birth, or soon after. Hitler was her fourth child. The fifth one died as well.

History would be much different, if his father who was so stern, authoritative, dominant, distanced, and irritable that his wife called him "uncle", would had beaten Adolf to death. After all, Adolf was severely beaten every day.

History would be much different, if Hitler had been accepted to the art college of Vienna. He would not be wandering alone in Vienna streets, sleeping out in the open, vegetating among the homeless, daydreaming about the "heroic, Aryan race", and blaming the "Jewish parasites" for his social downfall and humiliation.

When the army discovered Hitler's "talent for a nationalistic agitator", Hitler decided to advertise his unoriginal ideas - "diagnoses and prescriptions for the salvation of the German countries". He became a full time agitator and propagandist. If his "talent" had never been discovered, he would return to the fringe of society - like embittered war veteran with no chance for personal growth. He would remain a nobody. There would be no guidable crowds, which were assured by the political atmosphere of the postwar Germany.

James Hawthorne
April 6th, 2013, 03:32 PM
April 20th coming up, wonder what the Daily Mail has up its sleeve ?

Karl Radl
April 6th, 2013, 04:17 PM
As a matter of fact, no, I was not "misrepresenting" the text, I was merely showing the facts to VNN neo-Nazis.

No: you were misrepresenting a text as saying something it didn't and I corrected the interpretation of the text in question by quoting and then summarizing its direct discussion of it. Where-as the quotes you cherry-picked were from side points Kershaw makes not his central discussion of the issue.

Oh and since when is Wiki 'fact'?

Weird definition of 'fact', but there we go.

I did not state that Hitler had something to do with Geli's suicide, "Einsatzgruppe Commander".

Nope, but you alluded to it.

However if you want to discuss ideological forebears then we can always discuss Marx the lazy bourgeois parasite if you like.

Oh, that's just your opinion.

Lol. No: it is my opinion that is in agreement with an academic consensus.

If you believe what Strasser says then you'd believe the 'Black Front' had the NSDAP riddled with agents, that having a deformed limb meant that one was racially impure (Strasser's anonymous article on Goebbels) and that Strasser never subscribed to the idea that the jews were a major enemy of the toilers.

All are laughable, but all are there if you actually read what Strasser wrote (as well as what he told Douglas Reed and the American OSS).

I'll leave the rest of your drivel as it is just the attempt of a retarded leftist to distract from the fact that they got caught with panties down when they tried to show us apparently 'uneducated' people 'facts' from an open source internet encyclopedia.

Kajtimar
April 6th, 2013, 04:30 PM
No: you were misrepresenting a text
No, Tardl.

Hitler later declared that Raubal was the only woman he had ever loved. Her room at the Berghof was kept as she had left it, and he hung portraits of her in his own room there and at the Chancellery in Berlin.
--- Kershaw, Ian (2008). Hitler: A Biography. New York: W. W. Norton & Company. ISBN 978-0-393-06757-6

How is this a "side point"? It's an important fact which shows us Hitler's obsession with his niece.

Oh and since when is Wiki Kershaw, Ian (2008). Hitler: A Biography 'fact'?
I'm posting actual sources, unlike you neo-Nazi trash.

Weird definition of 'fact', but there we go.
Buy yourself a dictionary, Tardl.

Nope, but you alluded to it.
Again, it's just your opinion that I "alluded to it".

However if you want to discuss ideological forebears then we can always discuss Marx the lazy bourgeois parasite if you like.
Marx was a genius. "Lazy bourgeois parasite", haha. That's pretty much the best "critic" you neo-Nazi scum can come up with.

I'll leave the rest of your drivel as it is just the attempt of a retarded leftist to distract from the fact that they got caught with panties down when they tried to show us apparently 'uneducated' people 'facts' from an open source internet encyclopedia.
Of course you will. Occult neo-Nazi fanatics are very sensitive when someone criticizes Shitler, their god.

http://www.vnnforum.com/customavatars/avatar9879_27.gif
Nice picture, freak. I know that you fascists are fetishists.

Hunter Morrow
April 6th, 2013, 04:49 PM
Why don't Mao, Stalin and Hirohito get any press? They killed just as many people if not more. They might also be interesting to hear about because they haven't been rammed up our asses 24/7 since grade school.

Bev
April 8th, 2013, 07:18 AM
The oldest surviving inmate of the Dachau concentration camp has died at the age of 100.

Leon Stepniak, a Polish priest, was arrested by the Gestapo in 1940 in the village of Klebowiec.

He spent the next five years in Dachau, a site in south-east Germany which was the first concentration camp to be opened by the Nazi goverment.

After being released at the end of the Second World War, he returned to Poznan in Poland, where he died over the weekend.

The clergyman was well-known for a speech he made at a commemoration to mark the liberation of Dachau.

He told the audience that the camp's legacy should not be as a demand for revenge or recrimination, but as a sign of reconciliation.

Mr Stepniak also said that Dachau's continued existence should serve as a reminder to ensure that no similar atrocity ever happens again.

KZ-Dachau was established near the town of Dachau in Bavaria in March 1933.

Heinrich Himmler, then Munich's chief of police, described the site as 'the first concentration camp for political prisoners'.

During the war, it was a leading centre for the extermination of the Nazis' enemies, with around 32,000 people believed to have been killed there in total.

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Slave labour: Jewish prisoners at Dachau working at a nearby Nazi ammunition factory

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Inmates: French prisoners celebrate after the liberation of the camp by U.S. troops in April 1945

The camp was originally set up to hold political prisoners and Jews, but after the annexation of Poland it began to hold more Poles than any other category of prisoner.

It was also the main centre for Christian prisoner who were arrested because of their opposition to Adolf Hitler's regime.



Mr Stepniak was one of at least 3,000 Catholic priests and bishops imprisoned at Dachau.

The camp was liberated by U.S. troops in April 1945.

The Americans were so disgusted by the cruelty they found at Dachau that they summarily executed more than a dozen of the Nazi guards working there.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305714/Polish-priest-oldest-surviving-prisoner-Dachau-concentration-camp-dies-aged-100.html

Bev
April 11th, 2013, 11:45 AM
Former guards at the death camp that has become the most enduring symbol of the Holocaust could face prosecution almost seven decades after the fall of the Nazi regime.

Germany’s Central Office for the Investigation of National Socialist (Nazi) Crimes is set to begin proceedings against 50 former guards at the notorious concentration camp in Nazi-occupied Poland.

Kurt Schrimm, the head of the office, says staff scoured records and documents from the horrific era and travelled to Poland to create the list of living guards, reports the New York Times.


The investigators now have to cross-reference the list against those who were tried by the Allies or the German legal system.

'We have to determine now whether or not these 50 people that we found on this list can be legally prosecuted,' Mr. Schrimm said yesterday.



One of the driving influences behind the list was the case of Nazi concentration camp guard John Demjanjuk, who was found guilty of 28,060 counts of being an accessory to murder two years ago and sentenced to five years in jail.


Ukrainian-born Demjanjuk was a guard at Sobibor camp in Nazi-occupied Poland.

The retired car-plant worker from Ohio was deported to Germany and convicted in Munich in May last year of 28,060 counts of being an accessory to murder and sentenced to five years in jail. He died last year.

Mr Schrimm added that the list includes some new names, as well as a number that have been known to his office since the Auschwitz trials in the 1960s.

The move has been applauded by Efraim Zuroff at the Nazi-hunting Simon Wiesenthal Center.

He said: 'We’re very happy that this thing is happening.'

'It’s definitely the right thing to do. But the real test of the initiative will come when these cases are turned over to the prosecutors.'

Some have called for a different, softer approach to the remaining, elderly, supporters of the Nazis, something similar to South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission, which probed Apartheid in South Africa after it fell.

Such a move is not acceptable to Mr Zuroff. 'It’s good for countries where there’s apartheid,' Mr. Zuroff said. 'Not where there’s genocide.'

Nearly a million people were estimated to have died at Auschwitz, and between 15 and 20 million died as a result of the Holocaust.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2307506/The-war-criminals-Holocaust-German-Nazi-hunters-hold-Auschwitz-guards-account-nearly-70-years.html

Bev
April 11th, 2013, 11:47 AM
A British forensic archaeologist has unearthed fresh evidence to prove the existence of mass graves at the Nazi death camp Treblinka - scuppering the claims of Holocaust deniers who say it was merely a transit camp.

Some 800,000 Jews were killed at the site, in north east Poland, during the Second World War but a lack of physical evidence in the area has been exploited by Holocaust deniers.

Forensic archaeologist Caroline Sturdy Colls has now undertaken the first co-ordinated scientific attempt to locate the graves.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/17/article-2087735-0F809C3A00000578-299_468x314.jpg

Treblinka death camp in Poland where 17,000 Stone Memorial is one of the few reminders of the horrific events of the past

As Jewish religious law forbids disturbing burial sites, she and her team from the University of Birmingham have used 'ground-penetrating radar'.

Her work at the site, where the Nazis tried to destroy all traces of industrial-scale killing, is being followed in forthcoming Radio 4 documentary The Hidden Graves Of The Holocaust.


Sturdy Colls said: 'All the history books state that Treblinka was destroyed by the Nazis but the survey has demonstrated that simply isn’t the case.

'I’ve identified a number of buried pits using geophysical techniques. These are considerable in size, and very deep, one in particular is 26 by 17 metres.'

The programme’s presenter says that the pits contain the burnt remains of thousands of bodies.

The forensic archaeologist, who has now presented her findings to the authorities responsible for the memorial at Treblinka, added: 'I really hope this is the first stage in a long-term programme to seek out those hidden graves of the Holocaust.'

Survivor Kalman Taigman remembers his arrival at the camp’s railway station, packed into a cattle wagon.

'I was with my mother. We were about 100 people in a wagon. They opened the doors, firing guns and hitting us, and sent us into a yard. I ran with my mother and tried to calm her.

'They told me to leave my mother but I didn’t do it quickly and I was hit on the head. When I got up, she was gone. She went with all the rest of the women to the gas chamber.'
TREBLINKA: NAZI DEATH CAMP TARGETED BY HOLOCAUST DENIERS

Treblinka was a Nazi death camp in occupied Poland near the village of Treblinka during World War II

The camp was constructed as part of Operation Reinhard

Treblinka operated between July 23, 1942 and October 19, 1943

During this time, approximately 850,000 men, women and children were killed at Treblinka.

This figure includes more than 800,000 Jews, as well as a few thousand Romani people

The camp, which was operated by the SS and Eastern European Trawnikis, was split into two sections named Treblinka I and II

Treblinka I was designed for forced-labour center

Treblinka II was designed as a death factory with more than 99 per cent of all arrivals being immediately sent to its gas chambers.

Treblinka II ended operations on October 19, 1943 following a revolt by its Sonderkommandos.

Beginning in March 1942, the SS implemented Sonderaktion 1005 to cover up the murder of millions of people during Aktion Reinhard.

There actions were so comprehensive that ever since the end of the Second World War, Holocaust deniers have used the site as evidence of misinformation about Nazi genocide.

They claim the site was merely a transit camp - a myth now debunked by the latest discoveries of mass graves.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2087735/British-archaeologist-discovers-fresh-evidence-mass-graves-World-War-Two-death-camp-Treblinka.html

Karl Radl
April 11th, 2013, 11:56 AM
On Colls' 'study' see here (http://revblog.codoh.com/2012/01/comment-sturdy-colls/).

Bev
April 11th, 2013, 12:06 PM
On Colls' 'study' see here (http://revblog.codoh.com/2012/01/comment-sturdy-colls/).

I shall read it in depth momentarily, but from a skim read of the first few paragraphs it seems to be buildings and foundations and pits and "could have been" burial sites and not much else.

Interesting link - ty.

Gerry Fable
April 11th, 2013, 01:10 PM
Nearly a million people were estimated to have died at Auschwitz, and between 15 and 20 million died as a result of the Holocaust.

Where were these 20 million Jews housed? Oh, that's right. In secret concentration camps no-one knew about until recently, disclosed by groundbreaking research by Jewish academics in New York.

Bev
April 12th, 2013, 08:52 AM
A war hero who was one of the last survivors of the Great Escape has died at the age of 92.

Les Brodrick, who was originally from London but eventually settled in South Africa, was one of 76 Allied PoWs who dug their way out of Stalag Luft III during the Second World War.

Just three of the escapees actually made it to safety - and when the others, including Mr Brodrick, were recaptured 50 of them were executed on Hitler's orders.

Family lore has it that the RAF Flight Lieutenant was personally spared by the Nazi dictator when he heard that he had a baby son.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2308039/Survivor-Great-Escape-spared-firing-squad-Hitler-dies-aged-92.html

Bev
April 15th, 2013, 01:49 PM
Winston Churchill's 'We shall fight on the beaches' wartime speech has been chosen as the most memorable radio moment in the history of radio.

The 1940 speech, which featured the lines 'We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills', was voted top of a list of the most significant moments in radio.

Another broadcast to top the list was H.G. Wells' 1938 radio drama 'The War of the Worlds' which duped U.S. listeners into believing they really were being invaded by aliens.

The infamous prank call made by Jonathan Ross and comedian Russell Brand also made the top 10.

The pair left smutty messages on the answerphone of veteran actor Andrew Sachs' during a pre-recorded Radio 2 show.

Voted as the sixth most memorable radio moment in history, talk show host Ross said Brand had had sex with Sachs' granddaughter Georgina Baillie.

The incident, which led to both Brand and Ross leaving the BBC, was a national scandal in 2008.

The list of iconic radio moments was compiled by electronics company Sony.



Others to feature on the list include the 1985 Live Aid Concert, Martin Luther King's historic 'I have a dream' speech and the unfolding of the Hillsborough disaster in 1989.


1) Winston Churchill's 'We shall fight them on the beaches' speech in 1940

2) Martin Luther King's 'I have a dream' speech in 1963

3) Live Aid concert in 1985

4) H.G. Wells' radio drama 'The War of the Worlds' in 1938

5) The Hillsborough Disaster unfolded live on BBC radio in 1989

6) Sachsgate: Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross prank called actor Andrew Sachs in 2008

7) King George VI's speech in 1939 in which he overcame his stutter to eloquently address the British Empire

8) Chris Moyles breaks the Guinness World Record for the longest marathon radio show in 2011

9) Mike Read threw Frankie Goes to Hollywood's their single 'Relax' across the studio in 1984 refusing to play it for its supposedly obscene lyrics

10) Chris Moyles's salary rant in 2010





Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2309366/Winston-Churchills-shall-fight-beaches-rallying-voted-radio-moment-time.html

no 5 :mad:

Still - compiled by Sony. Not actually any reflection on public opinion,then.

Henry.
April 15th, 2013, 02:03 PM
Another broadcast to top the list was H.G. Wells' 1938 radio drama 'The War of the Worlds' which duped U.S. listeners into believing they really were being invaded by aliens.

Paid for by the Rockefeller Foundation and managed by Frankfurter sociologist Theo Adorno and other Jews of that ilk.


The Radio Project was a social research (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/Social_research) project funded by the Rockefeller Foundation (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/Rockefeller_Foundation) to look into the effects of mass media on society.

In 1937, the Rockefeller Foundation started funding research to find the effects of new forms of mass media on society, especially radio. Several universities joined up and a headquarters was formed at the School of Public and International Affairs (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/Woodrow_Wilson_School_of_Public_and_International_Affairs) at Princeton University (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/Princeton_University). The following people were involved:

Paul Lazarsfeld (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/Paul_Lazarsfeld) – Director of the Radio Project
Theodor Adorno (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/Theodor_Adorno) – Chief of the Music Division
Hadley Cantril (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/Hadley_Cantril) – A psychologist at Princeton University (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/Princeton_University)'s Department of Psychology (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/Princeton_University_Department_of_Psychology)
Gordon Allport (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/Gordon_Allport) – another of Lazarsfeld's assistants, went on to be the Tavistock Institute (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/Tavistock_Institute)'s leading representative in the United States.
Frank Stanton (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/Frank_Stanton_(executive)) – Researcher from CBS sent to help the project, went on to become president of CBS (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/CBS).
Among the Project's first studies were soap operas (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/Soap_opera), known as radio dramas (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/Radio_drama) at the time.

The Radio Project also researched the 1938 Halloween broadcast of The War of the Worlds (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds_(radio)). They found that of the estimated 6 million people who heard this broadcast, 25% thought it was real. Most of the people who panicked did not think that it was an invasion from Mars that was occurring, but rather an invasion by the Germans. It was later determined that because of the radio broadcasts from the Munich Crisis (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/Munich_Crisis) earlier in the year, the masses were prone to this.

A third research project was that of listening habits. Because of this, a new method was developed to survey an audience – this was dubbed the Little Annie Project (http://vnnforum.com/w/index.php?title=Little_Annie_Project&action=edit&redlink=1). The official name was the Stanton-Lazarsfeld Program Analyzer (http://vnnforum.com/w/index.php?title=Stanton-Lazarsfeld_Program_Analyzer&action=edit&redlink=1). This allowed one not only to find out if a listener liked the performance, but how they felt at any individual moment, through a dial which they would turn to express their preference (positive or negative). This has since become an essential tool in focus group research.

Theodor Adorno (http://vnnforum.com/wiki/Theodor_Adorno) produced numerous reports on the effects of "atomized listening" which radio supported and of which he was highly critical. However, because of profound methodological disagreements with Lazarsfeld over the use of techniques like listener surveys and "Little Annie" (Adorno thought both grossly simplified and ignored the degree to which expressed tastes were the result of commercial marketing), Adorno left the project in 1941.

Bev
April 16th, 2013, 10:44 AM
These extraordinary photographs provide a unique on-the-ground view of the immediate aftermath of the 1944 D-Day invasion.

The campaign heralded the beginning of the end of the Second World War, as 160,000 Allied soldiers landed on the beaches of France to liberate it from the occupying Nazi forces.

The iconic operation - the largest sea invasion in history - has been chronicled in numerous films, books and TV series, but as these images show, there is still an enormous amount of previously unseen material captured by the troops who took part in the heroic mission.

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2309473/France-D-Day-Astonishing-online-archive-pictures-shows-horror-devastation-moments-humanity-aftermath-liberation-Allied-forces.html


....followed by dozens of pictures - too many to post. Only really posting it here as another example of <see the thread title>.

andy
April 17th, 2013, 12:40 PM
This blighter led a fifty year vendetta against David Irving.It now transpires that he is a lifelong paedophile with allegations dating back to the 70's

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/10315571.Former_BBC_reporter_accused_of_sex_assaults_on_boys/

A FORMER BBC reporter appeared in court yesterday facing charges of indecent assault against boys under the age of 14.

Clifford Luton, aged 88, arrived at Bournemouth Magistrates Court in a wheelchair yesterday morning to hear the charges against him, which date back to the 1970s and ’80s.

The 88-year-old was also charged with 29 counts of possessing an indecent image of a child, including photographs in the most serious category.

Luton, from Ashley Road in Parkstone, did not enter a plea to any of the charges.

The prosecution told the court: “This is a case which both the Crown and defence agree should be under the jurisdiction of the Crown Court.”

Luton worked for the BBC in the 1960s and ’70s reporting on major issues for the time, including the Troubles in Northern Ireland, the Cod Wars with Iceland, the attempted kidnapping of Princess Anne, and the Lebanese Civil War.

In 1967 he chartered a plane to search for round-the-world sailor Francis Chichester, who had gone missing in a storm around Cape Horn.


He also worked for the Daily Mail, for whom he interviewed infamous historian David Irving in the 1950s.

Magistrates agreed to commit the case to Crown Court for May 21.

Luton was released on bail under condition that he has no contact with children aged under-18, |with a small number of named exceptions under supervision.

Have a look some nonce probably akins or AF has thumbed down this report of disgusting jewish paedophile

Bev
April 17th, 2013, 01:59 PM
Have a look some nonce probably akins or AF has thumbed down this report of disgusting jewish paedophile

Some moron called Kajitmar keeps thumbing down my posts on this thread. He claims to be an "anti-nazi" but he clearly isn't since he hates the DM's anti-Hitler posts. He admitted it's him in a nutzpah thread.

Bev
April 25th, 2013, 06:09 AM
D-Day veterans have protested after a new French Second World War tourism campaign ignored one of the Normandy beaches where British troops went ashore.

Six tourist boards along the Normandy coast launched the new D-Day initiative to promote what it calls the 'Secteur mythique' - or mythical sector where action took place.

It stretches from Utah and Omaha in the west to Gold and Juno beaches where Allied troops from the U.S., UK and Canada went ashore.


But the campaign stops short of Sword Beach in the east, where 700 British soldiers were killed or wounded on June 6, 1944.

Sword Beach was the code name given by Second World War Allied commanders to one of the five main landing areas along the Normandy coast during the D-Day landings, or Operation Overlord as it is sometimes known.

It stretches roughly five miles from Ouistreham to Saint-Aubin-sur-Mer. It was the eastern-most beach of the Normandy landings.


The Allied forces most heavily involved in the assault on Sword Beach were the British 3rd Infantry Division. Various brigades were attached to the main assault group.

Significant, and emblematic from a French standpoint, was the inclusion of the 1st Special Service Brigade within which was comprised the Free French Commandos.

From the Allies' point of view, it was important and highly symbolic that French forces should be included as part of the D-Day invasion, contributing to the liberation of their own country.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2314488/D-Day-veterans-anger-French-Normandy-landings-tourist-campaign-ignores-beach-700-British-soldiers-died-wounded-going-ashore.html

To be fair this next one seems to be from a column full of readers letters on the topic of historical inaccuracies.

Did Hitler eat the first ever Curly Wurly?

Sir,

In the film Downfall, set in the Berlin bunker during the last days of the Third Reich, Adolf Hitler can clearly be seen chewing nervously on a Curly Wurly.

Yet this tasty comestible, made by Cadbury from chocolate-coated caramel, was not widely available until 1970, a full 25 years after the events on-screen.

D.B., Reigate.

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Sweet tooth? 'Sir, in the film Downfall, set in the Berlin bunker during the last days of the Third Reich, Adolf Hitler can clearly be seen chewing nervously on a Curly Wurly'

Sir,

Further to D.B. of Reigate’s comment on Downfall, there is no evidence to suggest that Hitler did not chew on a Curly Wurly during his unhappy time in the bunker.

In April 1945, he found himself in a stressful situation, and would undoubtedly have welcomed any diversion from the job in hand.

It stands to reason, then, that he would have enjoyed consumer-testing a range of new chocolate bars, perhaps provided for him by his chubby colleague Hermann Goering, who was known for his sweet tooth.

N. Myers, Halifax.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2313119/Did-Hitler-eat-Curly-Wurly.html

Bev
April 25th, 2013, 11:17 AM
(hello Kajitmar. Are you pretending that red thumbs actually mean something again? ;) )

Kajtimar
April 25th, 2013, 11:30 AM
Oh when the Red Wind blows,

Bev feels it to the bone.

Angel Ramsey
April 25th, 2013, 11:33 AM
Oh when the Red Wind blows

Bev feels it to the bone.

I bet you know a lot about that.:rolleyes:

Kajtimar
April 25th, 2013, 03:31 PM
I bet you know a lot about that.:rolleyes:
Yah, I know much about striking a fatal blow at neo-Nazi scum.

Angel Ramsey
April 25th, 2013, 03:33 PM
Yah, I know much about striking a fatal blow at neo-Nazi scum.

I'm pretty sure at my size chocking out a 230 lb man is something you couldn't do.:cool:

Kajtimar
April 25th, 2013, 03:35 PM
I'm pretty sure at my size chocking out a 230 lb man is something you couldn't do.:cool:
Shut up, bitch. No human can kill me.

Angel Ramsey
April 25th, 2013, 03:36 PM
Shut up, bitch. No human can kill me.

I just pwnd your ass.

Kajtimar
April 25th, 2013, 03:44 PM
I just pwnd your ass.
That would be a surreal sight.

Angel Ramsey
April 25th, 2013, 03:46 PM
That would be a surreal sight.

In your wettest, wildest dreams, fuckronaught.

Kajtimar
April 25th, 2013, 03:50 PM
In your wettest, wildest dreams, fuckronaught.
My "wettest, wildest dream" would be me, making an example out of a real, German Nazi.

Angel Ramsey
April 25th, 2013, 03:51 PM
My "wettest, wildest dream" would be me, making an example out of a real, German Nazi.

:rofl:rofl:rofl:hflol:hflol:hflol:angryhitler::angryhitler::angryhitler:

Kajtimar
April 25th, 2013, 04:04 PM
:angryhitler:
Yeah, beating the shit out of an Austrian neo-Nazi just isn't the same.

Angel Ramsey
April 25th, 2013, 04:07 PM
Yeah, beating the shit out of an Austrian neo-Nazi just isn't the same.

I'm a quarter. Wanna go at it?:D

Shorts - Arrow to the Knee - YouTube

Kajtimar
April 25th, 2013, 04:20 PM
Wanna go at it?:D
I would never consider going near you. You ugly monster.

Angel Ramsey
April 25th, 2013, 04:21 PM
I would never consider going near you. You ugly monster.

Took you long enough.:D

Bev
April 27th, 2013, 10:04 AM
They were feasts of sublime asparagus - laced with fear. And for more than half a century, Margot Woelk kept her secret hidden from the world, even from her husband.

Then, a few months after her 95th birthday, she revealed the truth about her wartime role: Adolf Hitler's food taster.

Woelk, then in her mid-twenties, spent two and a half years as one of 15 young women who sampled Hitler's food to make sure it wasn't poisoned before it was served to the Nazi leader.

She worked at the 'Wolf's Lair' - his heavily guarded command centre in what is now Poland, where he spent much of his time in the final years of World War II.

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Every meal that Adolf Hitler tasted was sampled by 15 young women, including Margot Woelk, to make sure it wasn't poisoned. Above, the dictator with his mistress Eva Braun


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Margot holds a photo album with a picture of herself taken around 1939 or 1940

'He was a vegetarian. He never ate any meat during the entire time I was there,' Woelk said of the Nazi leader.

'And Hitler was so paranoid that the British would poison him - that's why he had 15 girls taste the food before he ate it himself.'

With many Germans battling with food shortages and a bland diet as the war dragged on, sampling Hitler's food had its advantages.


'The food was delicious, only the best vegetables, asparagus, bell peppers, everything you can imagine. And always with a side of rice or pasta,' she recalled.

'But this constant fear - we knew of all those poisoning rumors and could never enjoy the food. Every day we feared it was going to be our last meal.'

The petite widow's story is a tale of the horror, pain and dislocation endured by people of all sides who survived the war.


'The food was delicious, only the best vegetables, asparagus, bell peppers, everything you can imagine. And always with a side of rice or pasta,' Woelk said.

Only now in the sunset of her life has she been willing to relate her experiences, which she had buried because of shame and the fear of prosecution for having worked with the Nazis, although she insists she was never a party member.

She has also provided album pictures of her as a young woman, in the same Berlin apartment where she was born in 1917.

Woelk said her association with Hitler began after she fled Berlin to escape Allied air attacks.

With her husband gone and serving in the German army, she moved in with relatives about 435 miles (700km) to the east in Rastenburg, then part of Germany; now it is Ketrzyn, in what became Poland after the war.

There she was drafted into civilian service and assigned for the next two and a half years as a food taster and kitchen bookkeeper at the Wolf's Lair complex, located a few miles outside the town.
'Hitler was so paranoid that the British would poison him - that's why he had 15 girls taste the food before he ate it himself,' said Margot

'Hitler was so paranoid that the British would poison him - that's why he had 15 girls taste the food before he ate it himself,' said Margot.



Hitler was so secretive, even in the relative safety of his headquarters, that she never saw him in person - only his German shepherd Blondie and his SS guards, who chatted with the women.

And the Fuhrer's security fears were not unfounded.

On July 20, 1944, a trusted colonel detonated a bomb in the Wolf's Lair in an attempt to kill him.

He survived, but nearly 5,000 people were executed following the assassination attempt, including the bomber.
'Later, I found out that the Russians shot all of the 14 other food taster girls' - Margot Woelk (after Soviet troops overran the Wolf's Lair in January 1945)


'We were sitting on wooden benches when we heard and felt an incredible big bang,' she said of the 1944 bombing. 'We fell off the benches, and I heard someone shouting "Hitler is dead!" But he wasn't.'

Following the blast, tension rose around the headquarters. Woelk said the Nazis ordered her to leave her relatives' home and move into an abandoned school closer to the compound.

With the Soviet army on the offensive and the war going badly for Germany, one of her SS friends advised her to leave the Wolf's Lair. She said she returned by train to Berlin and went into hiding.

Woelk said the other women on the food tasting team decided to remain in Rastenburg since their families were all there and it was their home.

'Later, I found out that the Russians shot all of the 14 other girls,' she said. It was after Soviet troops overran the headquarters in January 1945.

When she returned to Berlin, she found a city facing complete destruction. Round-the-clock bombing by U.S. and British planes was grinding the city centre to rubble.

On April 20, 1945, Soviet artillery began shelling the outskirts of Berlin and ground forces pushed through towards the heart of the capital against strong resistance by die-hard SS and Hitler Youth fighters.



After about two weeks of heavy fighting, the city surrendered on May 2 - after Hitler, who had abandoned the Wolf's Lair about five months before, had committed suicide.

His successor surrendered a week later, ending the war in Europe.

For many Berlin civilians - their homes destroyed, family members missing or dead and food almost gone - the horror did not end with capitulation.

'The Russians then came to Berlin and got me, too,' Woelk said. 'They took me to a doctor's apartment and raped me for 14 consecutive days. That's why I could never have children. They destroyed everything.'

Like millions of Germans and other Europeans, Woelk began rebuilding her life and trying to forget as best she could her bitter memories and the shame of her association with a criminal regime that had destroyed much of Europe.

She worked in a variety of jobs, mostly as a secretary or administrative assistant. Her husband returned from the war but died 23 years ago, she said.

With the frailty of advanced age and the lack of an elevator in her building, she has not left her apartment for the past eight years. Nurses visit several times a day, and a niece stops by frequently, she said.

Now at the end of her life, she feels the need to purge the memories by talking about her story.

'For decades, I tried to shake off those memories,' she said. 'But they always came back to haunt me at night.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2315369/Hitlers-food-delicious--asparagus-bell-peppers-rice-pasta-Nazis-official-taste-tester-reveals-diet-fuelled-Fuhrer.html


a) I'm sure we've already had this one.

b) Here we go again with the inaccurate "mistress".

Bev
April 27th, 2013, 10:12 AM
German prosecutors have started proceedings against a former Auschwitz death camp guard in a last ditch bid to bring 50 former SS men to trial before they die peacefully of old age.

Hans Lipschis, 93, is expected to be the first person brought to court after investigations were launched by German officials several weeks ago into the Auschwitz guards who escaped scot free after WW2.

Prosecutors in Stuttgart this week confirmed the criminal probe launched against him.

Lipschis, who was born in Lithuania in 1919 and was granted 'ethnic German' status in 1943, is accused of working at Auschwitz-Birkenau as a member of the S.S. from 1941 to 1945. He is suspected of participating in murder and genocide.

Lipschis’ name was added a few weeks ago to a list of wanted Nazi criminals published by Dr Efraim Zuroff, director of the Simon Wiesenthal Centre's office in Israel.


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'Work Makes You Free': The 'Arbeit Mact Frei' sign still hangs above Auschwitz concentration camp in a haunting reminder of the atrocities that were carried out there. It is now a museum

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Chilling: Hans Lipschis was born in Lithuania in 1919 and was granted 'ethnic German' status in 1943. This is his ID Card from Auschwitz


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Nice life for guards: An accordionist leads a sing-along for SS officers at their retreat at Solahutte outside Auschwitz in 1944. Not far away, Jews were being murdered in their thousands

Over 1.2 million people, mostly Jews, were murdered at Auschwitz in Nazi-occupied Poland during the war.

A German newspaper tracked Lipschis down to a retirement home near Stuttgart where he denied the charges, claimed he knew nothing about the horrors committed at the extermination camp and said he was a 'cook for the entire time I was there.'



But paperwork has surfaced that shows he was a member of the SS–Totenkopf Sturmbann, or Death’s Head Battalion, which guarded the camp.

These were the men who also supervised the unloading of the trains which brought the doomed victims from all over Europe to Auschwitz.

In the past German prosecutors have relied on eyewitness testimony or paperwork when bringing murder charges against suspected war criminals.

But the conviction of Sobibor death camp guard John Demjanjuk in 2011 in Munich set a new precedent whereby it was enough for people to have served at a site of mass extermination without specific acts being proved.

In 1956 Lipschis fled to the United States and lived in Chicago for 26 years, but was deported to Germany in 1983 after being identified by the U.S. as a Nazi war criminal.


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'The Gate of Death': Auschwitz II-Birkenau's main guard house which prisoners called "The Gate of Death". Over 1.2 million people, mostly Jews, were murdered at Auschwitz in Nazi-occupied Poland during the war


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Haunting: A handful of haunting photographs taken during the camp's liberation are haunting reminders of the unimaginable horror that faced prisoners inside Auschwitz
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Convicted: The conviction of Sobibor death camp guard John Demjanjuk in 2011 set a new precedent whereby it was enough for people to have served at a site of mass extermination without specific acts being proved

Because of the precedent set in the Demjanjuk case, prosecutors are planning to put him on trial without any specific knowledge of what he did during his time there.

'It is almost certain that he will be the first to be brought to court,' stated the German newspaper Die Welt.

Kurt Schrimm, who heads the German office for investigating Nazi crimes, said the investigations had already led to information about numerous suspects, all of whom reside in Germany and are about 90 years old.





Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2315269/Auschwitz-death-camp-guard-93-faces-new-trial-Germany-makes-desperate-bid-jail-50-S-S-men-die-peacefully-old-age.html

SUNOFSPARTA
April 27th, 2013, 11:49 AM
He’s Back: Hitler Satire Tops Germany’s Best-Seller List

Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/10/hes-back-hitler-satire-tops-germanys-bestseller-list/#ixzz2RbR5KPxr

Ever popular in his home land,making a triumphed return-as expected.
First they laughed,then they cried

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Bev
April 29th, 2013, 06:42 AM
The search is on for the relatives of Holocaust survivor Roman Blum - who passed away in January last year leaving behind the largest unclaimed estate in New York history.

With no apparent surviving family members - his wife died 21-years ago and the couple was childless - the 97-year-old property moguls $40 million fortune will be taken on by the state.

Casting their net as far afield as Poland to find anyone who may be related to the modest multi-millionaire, lawyers are hoping to find anyone who can take on the hard earned cash of a man who escaped the death camps of Adolf Hitler.

Friends who knew him described Blum as a gregarious ladies man, who liked to drink and party and who built up one of the most prominent real estate empires in the New York borough of Staten Island through decades of hard work.


However, despite his business acumen and the lease of life surviving the Holocaust gave him, Blum has been described in no uncertain terms by one friend who also made it through the concentration camps of the 1940s.

'He was a very smart man but he died like an idiot,' said Paul Skurka, who became friends with Blum in the 1970s after working for him at one of his homes.

The millionaire's funeral was attended by only a small number of elderly friends who knew each other from their days as a community of Holocaust survivors in Forest Hills, Queens.

When asked by the New York Times, those friends could only paint a picture of the man they knew from when he managed to gain a visa and enter the United States in 1949.

Little is known about his life before even the Holocaust and the end of the Second World War.

Born in Chelm, in the south of Poland, some speculate that Blum had a wife and child who died in the concentration camps and even his birth date is questionable..

An identity card from a displaced persons camp at the end of the war has his birthday as September 15th, 1914 - while his U.S. birth-date is registered as September 16th, 1914,

Regardless of what seems an inconsequential date error, the real mystery is why Blum, an intelligent man, provided no will for his enormous fortune.

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16 Apr 1945, Germany --- Survivors at Buchenwald Concentration Camp remain in their barracks after liberation by Allies on April 16, 1945 - Roman Blum survived the war out of a Nazi death camp

'I spoke to Roman many times before he passed away, and he knew what to do, how to name beneficiaries,' said Mason D. Corn, his accountant and friend for 30 years to the New York Times.

It seems that only two weeks before his death, Blum intended to produce a will, but died before he could - as Corn went on vacation and his client passed away.

Leaving the concentration camps behind after the war in 1945, Blum encountered a family of fellow survivors who had two daughters.

One, named Eva, had been in the notorious Auschwitz concentration camp.

Roman married this lady, but friends said that sadly, this was not a wedding based on love.

'It was immediately after the war — he thought she was the last Jewish woman alive, and she thought there were no more men,' said a friend to the New York Times.

Intriguingly, this friend spoke to the newspaper on the condition of anonymity in case it appeared that they were trying to stake a claim to the Blum estate.

This same friend revealed that in 1946, Blum and his wife traveled to a camp on the outskirts of Frankfurt where he became a cigarette smuggler - showing off the beginnings of his flair for business.

His unusual marriage became apparent when Blum decamped to west Berlin to live the high life - while Eva remained outside Frankfurt.

Granted their visas in 1949, the pair moved to Forest Hills, where they became part of a tightknit group of fellow survivors - many who had known the Blums from Germany.

'They all lived the same type of lifestyle, going to the bungalow colonies together, the Catskills, everything was done as a group,' said Jack Shnay, a child of survivors to the New York Times.

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19 Jun 1945, Germany --- A six-year-old war orphan, with a Buchenwald badge on his sleeve, waits for his name to be called during roll call at Buchenwald camp, Germany

Charles Goldgrub, whose parents grew up with the Blums described the joyous lifestyle led by the Jews who had escaped Hitler's concentration camp.

'Every weekend was a party,' said Goldgrub to The New York Times. 'They had survived Hitler so they thought they would live forever.'

Developing his home-building business, Blum became successful, living a life of exuberance likened to that of the Italian organized crime families.

'There were lots of women on the side,' said Goldgrub to the New York Times.

'It was a way of life, everyone knew — the wives just closed their eyes to it.'

As a backdrop to this, the Blum's failed to start their own family - spending tens of thousands of dollars on medical bills.

A hurtful rumor even circulated that Eva had been rendered infertile bu the inhuman experiments of Josef Mengele while at Auschwitz.

Indeed, on a five-week cruise to Israel in the 1960s aboard the Queen Elizabeth cruise liner, Blum found a boy he wanted to adopt.

His wife declined, hoping that she would be able to conceive naturally.

Upon the opening of the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge, which links Brooklyn and Staten Island - Blum's property business exploded as he bought up cheap property in neighborhoods like Eltingville, Huguenot and Manor Heights.

His marriage again fell into a state of flux when he moved to his large but modest brick house in Staten Island, leaving his wife of over forty years behind in Queens.

'He wanted her to go live with him in his big house with a swimming pool, but she loved the city,' said the friend who wished to be unidentified.

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Jewish refugees came to the United States in the years following the successful conclusion of the Second World War

'All her friends were there, and with his lifestyle, if she went with him, she knew she would be alone a lot.' Eva Blum stayed in Queens while Blum moved into the new house.

Divorcing a while later, Blum again returned to the life of a bachelor with Sunday barbecues becoming the hottest ticket amongst his circle of friends.

However, the way in which he treated his wife caused a riff in the Jewish community and people took sides.

Becoming increasingly suspicious that people were trying to steal his money, Blum once hid $40,000 in his ceiling.

When it went missing, he falsely accused a neighbor of stealing it.

Friends have told the New York Times that they do not know why he failed to write a will.

Some claim that it was a refusal to admit his mortality while others feared it was simply a refusal to share the full details of his estate with a lawyer.

Obviously, any relatives still living would have received the money by now - despite the absence of a will.


However, his wife, who died in 1992 would not have eligible - so the hope is to find a blood relative back in Poland - as all attempts in the U.S. have failed.

Yet despite a worldwide search that included Poland and Israel there has been no evidence of any relatives.

At his death, Blum's estate, which is still being liquidated included included about $4 million in cash in his checking account.

His home in Staten Island was worth $729,000 - undeveloped land in Forest Avenue worth $4.5 million and a safe deposit box containing 70 $100 bills.

Once the liquidation is complete and no relatives are found, the money will go to the city's Department of Finance.

The money will wait there for three years until the state comptroller splits it between the state and the DoF.

If an heir ultimately is found - the money will be returned.

The unidentified friend is still full of hope though.

'I believe a will is written,' the friend said.

'Somewhere there is a plan: he made arrangements to use the money to build a home for children and to dedicate it to his child from before the war. I am sure of it.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2316357/New-York-Holocaust-survivor-Roman-Blums-40m-fortune-set-inherited-government.html

M. Gerard
April 29th, 2013, 09:11 AM
Hitler's food taster - I don't believe that one. Ludicrous. Most likely that girl was there for the same reason Eva was there, to make it nicer for Hitler.

Rich old jew Blum- Seems like a swarm of rabbis would have been after him to get their greedy mitts on his money before he died. "How could those incredible, money-grubbing rabbis let this happen?" is the question.

The Blum article might deserve an award for shoveling the most holocaust shit in the least Holocaust related article.

Bev
May 1st, 2013, 07:23 AM
Remarkable interviews with Adolf Hitler's closest confidantes detailing his final days, his love of gossip, how he poisoned his dog and his favourite love song have been screened on German TV for the first time.

Their filmed testimonies about life at the court of the Nazi leader were made three years after the war by an American film unit spellbound by how the Austrian managed to lead a cultured and sophisticated country to ruin.

They were long thought lost to history until some footage was found late last year in an archive in Nuremberg and the rest from relatives of the man who interviewed them.

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Last day: Adolf Hitler and his wife Eva Braun pose with their pets. The dictator is holding his favourite dog Blondi on a leash. He was to have her poisoned with cyanide

The aides, secretaries and friends of Hitler spoke from beyond the grave to the German people when they were broadcast this week in a programme called 'Witnesses to the Downfall.'

The Hitler gang were quizzed in 1948 by US judge Michael Musmanno who helped prosecute some of the Nazi war criminals at the end of WW2.

He was granted access to the inner circle of the Fuehrer because his superiors in the US Navy believed the rumours that Hitler had escaped to Argentina after the war.


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Love song: Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun. Arthur Kannberg, Hitler's butler, revealed how a song called 'Blood Red Roses' was the favourite of Hitler and Eva, a record they listened to 'over and over'



Slipping cyanide in the mouth of Hitler's beloved Alsatian dog Blondi

Hitler's air force aide Bernd Freytag von Loringhoven told the cameras about the poisoning of Hitler's beloved Alsatian dog 'Blondi'.

'He watched as cyanide was slipped into its mouth and its jaw was pushed down to break the glass,' he reported.

'Hitler was emotionless. He only wanted to know if it worked and it did. Later the propaganda minister's wife Magda Goebbels would use the capsules to murder all her children as they slept.'

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Killed: Eva Braun with Hitler's beloved dog Blondi
Love letters from besotted admirers

Traudl Junge, who was Hitler's favourite secretary, told the cameras how her boss was receiving love letters from besotted followers right up until his suicide in the Berlin bunker in April 1945.

'That was my first job for him, bringing the post from women who had nothing better to do than write to him. They were love letters, yes,' she said.

'But I only remember him as someone paternal who was always worried about me. I never saw him as the statesman, I didn't attend any of his conferences. We were summoned only when he wanted to dictate and he was as considerate then as he was in private.

'And our office, both in the Reichschancellery and in the bunkers in the Wolf's Lair or in Berklin , we were so far removed from his command quarters that we never saw or even heard any of his rages that we heard whispers about. We knew his timetable, whom he received, but except for the few men he sometimes had to meals we attended.

'My colleagues told me that in the earlier years he talked incessantly, about the past and the future, but after Stalingrad, well, I don't remember many monologues.

'We all tried to distract him, with talk about films, or gossip, anything that would take his mind off the war. He loved gossip. That was part of that other side of him, which was basically the only one we saw.

'When I came to type his final testament in the bunker during the last days of the war I thought he would justify his actions and explain why Germany is in this position. That he had a way out from our terrible tragedy. But he repeated only the old slogans which he had used in his speeches.'

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Love letters: Adolf Hitler taking the salute at Era in Thuringia during a march by his supporters. Traudl Junge, who was Hitler's favourite secretary, said he often received love letters from admirers
The love song that Hitler and Eva listened to 'over and over'

Arthur Kannberg, Hitler's butler, revealed how a song called 'Blood Red Roses' was the favourite of Hitler and Eva, a record they listened to 'over and over.'

He added; 'The boss was always particular about the afternoon tea. The cups and silverware always had to be pristine and he insisted that Eva was present at his holiday home on the Obersalzberg for such occasions.

'Hitler and Eva were very much in love, but perhaps not to the extent that he ever wanted children with her.

'Before the end he gave me gold and silver cigarette cases engraved with his name. When he handed them over he said; 'Look after these until we meet again.''

'He also spoke of a 'secret stash' of treasure of Hitler's which he hid near to his home at Berchtesgaden, but it has never been found.

August Wollenhaupt, the barber of Hitler, was also interviewed and he described a 'genial, soft spoken man' who enquired after his family and who always wanted to know what 'the gossip from the man in the street was.'
Wedding party in the bunker, but Hitler refuses a tipple

Hitler's adjutant Nicholas von Below was interviewed, along with his favourite film director Leni Riefenstahl, the family of his mistress - and wife of 24 hours - Eva Braun, who committed suicide with him in his bunker, and generals Walther Wenck and Karl Koller.

One bunker functionary called Lorenz said that after Hitler and Eva married on April 29 1945 'there was a little party in the bunker.

There was champagne but Hitler didn't drink any. He was concerned about getting his last will and testament down.'

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Relationship: Hitler (standing third from right) and va Braun (kneeling far right). His butler said 'Hitler and Eva were very much in love, but perhaps not to the extent that he ever wanted children with her'
Bodies of Hitler and Eva burnt to avoid being 'exhibited at a Russian freak-show'

A Colonel Holsten who was in the bunker when Hitler and Eva ended their lives on April 30 1945 told how he saw the bodies being dragged up the narrow stairs to the Reich Chancellery garden where they were doused in petrol and set aflame.

'I was frozen,' he said, 'then raised my arm automatically one last time in the 'Hitler Greeting' to salute him.'

Hermann Karnau, an S.S. bodyguard of the Fuehrer who escaped the bunker and tried to return to it at the last moment, said; 'I tried to get back through into the bunker through the emergency exit when I saw about 20 metres away from me the bodies of Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun.

'They had been set on fire. When I went to the spot early in the evening to try to move them into a hollow in the ground, they disintegrated.

'I recognised that it was Hitler from his uniform and his distinctive moustache. I had seen the Fuehrer alive that morning sitting in his favourite wicker chair. Later in the day, before the suicides, I recalled seeing four men arrive with gasoline cans which they said was for the air conditioning system inside the bunker.

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Death pact: Adolf Hitler with mistress Eva Braun - the pair died together in the bunker

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HQ: Adolf Hitler's command center conference room partially burned out by SS troops and stripped of evidence by invading Russians, in bunker under the Reichschancellery after Hitler's suicide

Bunker: Colonel Holsten who was in the bunker when Hitler and Eva ended their lives on April 30 1945 told how he saw the bodies being dragged up the narrow stairs to the Reich Chancellery garden where they were doused in petrol and set aflame

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Traces of the dictator: War correspondents examining the arm of sofa stained with blood while one of them uses a candle to search the floor for evidence of suicide in Adolf Hitler's underground shelter

'As I remembered that the air conditioning system was fuelled by diesel, I personally denied them entrance to the bunker. I relented after Heinz Linge, Hitler's valet, vouched for them. This was, of course, the petrol that was to be used to cremate the bodies of Hitler and Eva Braun.

'I last saw Hitler alive around about 4.00pm that day. I believed that the Fuehrer had been poisoned by his personal physician Dr Ludwig Stumpfegger.'

Erich Kempka, Hitler's chauffeur from the earliest days of the Nazi movement, scrounged the necessary fuel to burn the bodies in the garden of the Reichs Chancellery.

He said; 'I remember with complete sureness that I was called on April 30 by S.S. Sturmbannfuehrer Guensche while I was in the Reich Chancellery garage asking me to bring over five cans of petrol to the bunker.

'Once there Guensche told me the Fuehrer was dead and that he had been ordered to burn his corpse 'so that he would not be exhibited at a Russian freak-show.'

'I then helped carry the corpses. While Linge and an orderly whom I do not remember were carrying the corpse of Adolf Hitler, I carried the corpse of Eva Hitler. I noticed the long black trousers and the black shoes which the Fuehrer usually wore with his field-gray uniform jacket.

'The corpses were taken from the bunker to a spot about four to five metres distant from the bunker exit and at this location both bodies were cremated.

'Guensche poured the complete contents of the five cans over the two corpses and ignited the fuel. Reichsleiter Martin Bormann, Reichs minister Dr Goebbels, SS-Sturmbannfuehre Guensche, SS Sturmbannfuehrer Linge, the orderly and I stood in the bunker entrance, looked towards the fire and all saluted with raised hands .'



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Now she's his wife to begin with, but they've downgraded her to mistress again. I wish someone would give the DM staff a history lesson.

Bev
May 3rd, 2013, 06:30 AM
A rare German bomber from the Second World War is set to be raised from the English Channel where it has lain for seven decades, it was announced today.

The retrieval of the last surviving Dornier Do 17 from the Goodwin Sands off the coast of Kent will be the biggest recovery of its kind in British waters.

The aircraft was first spotted by divers in 2008, lying 50ft below the surface on a chalk bed, surrounded by debris.
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Under the sea: A Dornier Do 17 bomber which lies off the coast of Kent is set to be recovered

Sonar scans carried out by the RAF Museum, Wessex Archaeology and the Port of London Authority confirmed that the plane is the Dornier Do 17Z Werke number 1160, which was shot down during the Battle of Britain.

The plane, which is said to be in 'remarkable condition', was one of the Luftwaffe's 'flying pencil' bombers, named for their narrow fuselage.



It is covered in coral, barnacles and other marine life, but is otherwise largely intact.

The main undercarriage tyres remain inflated and the propellers clearly show the damage inflicted during the bomber's final crash landing.

Lifting the plane from the sea will take around three weeks using pioneering technology, and will be dependent on tides and weather conditions.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2318808/Last-surviving-Second-World-War-Dornier-bomber-raised-watery-grave-70-years-biggest-recovery-kind.html

Henry.
May 3rd, 2013, 07:02 AM
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2318808/Last-surviving-Second-World-War-Dornier-bomber-raised-watery-grave-70-years-biggest-recovery-kind.html
Great news!

They can gold plate it then Call-Me-Dave can hang it round his neck M C. Hammer style when goes rapping at his local tukkun olam summer fest....

Bev
May 5th, 2013, 07:18 AM
A German broadcaster has dropped repeat showings of a detective series after it emerged its late star had served in Hitler's SS.

Horst Tappert, who played Derrick in the show of the same name, had kept his military past a secret up until his death in 2008.

But last month archives revealed he had served in the Totenkopf panzer division, one of the most ruthless units of the Nazi paramilitary force.

ZDF, the German public broadcaster, said it was 'shocked and troubled' by the revelation.

A spokesman told the AFP news agency: 'We have no plans to broadcast any more reruns. We will not honour an actor who has lied over his past'.

According to the archives, Tappert was a 19-year-old panzer grenadier when he was wounded on the Eastern Front in 1943.

His Totenkopf (German for 'death's head') panzer division had the motto 'My Honour is Loyalty' and became one of the most feared units of the Waffen SS - the fighting arm of the SS.

Tappert only said of his war record that he had served as a medic.

Bavaria's interior ministry is considering stripping the actor of an honorary chief police inspector title awarded to him in 1980, according to the BBC which cited German media reports.

More than 280 episodes of Derrick were made between 1974 and 1998.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2318407/German-broadcaster-drops-detective-star-outed-SS-member-Hitlers-fearsome-deaths-head-unit.html

On its first appearance on September 1, 1939, though, the party was shortlived: the organisers couldn’t ignore what was happening in the rest of Europe, and it closed on the first day, not reopening until 1946 (more history below in 'Schott’s Miscellany').

Over the years Cannes has helped make names – from Brigitte Bardot and Sophia Loren, to Quentin Tarantino and Steven Soderbergh more recently, and it was where Grace Kelly found her prince – Prince Rainier III of Monaco.

It has also threatened to end careers – Danish director Lars Von Trier has gone close to the wire a few times, not least when in a press conference for his 2011 film Melancholia he gave vent to his sympathy for Hitler.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-2318257/Cannes-Flash-Bang-Cannes-What-No-sent-ticket-worlds-hedonistic-film-festival-Dont-worry-Event-bagged-row-seat.html


Film reviews....

Based on the Patrick White novel of the same name and set in 1972, it’s the story of Elizabeth Hunter (Charlotte Rampling), an elderly, wealthy widow whose decline has now reached a stage that her middle-aged children, the London-based actor Sir Basil Hunter (Geoffrey Rush) and the newly divorced Princess de Lascabanes (Judy Davis), have been summoned from Europe, possibly to say their final goodbyes.

But the manipulative family matriarch, looked after by the family lawyer, a retinue of nurses and a Holocaust-surviving housekeeper who sings her Weimar cabaret tunes at night, is in no mood to depart quite yet.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-2317788/Dead-Man-Down-Too--Dragon.html

A chief executive of a Christian womens' group in America has accused President Barack Obama's transportation nominee of endorsing a type of thinking which led to the Holocaust.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2318919/Anthony-Foxxs-National-Day-Reason-type-thinking-led-Holocaust-says-Penny-Nance.html

Told you we'd get some additions after Google declared Palestine a state and after Israel attacked Syria. There's at least half a dozen more new stories if you search for key words on the DM and all of them relate to UKIP.

Bev
May 5th, 2013, 05:51 PM
Once a year, Israel's Jewish war veterans don suit jackets and uniforms dripping in Red Army medals, with the shiny bronzes and silvers pinned to their chests in tight rows.

About 500,000 Jews served in the Soviet Red Army during the Second World War.

Most of those still alive today - about 7,000 - are said to live in Israel and have been photographed by Pulitzer Prize winner Oded Balilty.

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Soviet Jewish Second World War veteran Tchudnovsky Itzhak poses for a portrait at his house in the southern Israeli city of Ashkelon. He joined the Red Army in 1942 and was an artillery commander at the Stalingrad front

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Yaakov Vilkovich, 90, from Ashdod, joined the Red Army in 1941, served in the 31st Armyës infantry battalion and fought in the Battle of Berlin in 1945. He immigrated to Israel in 1998

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David Rivelsky he took part in the heroic defence of Leningrad in 1941 as part of the Leningrad Front. In 1943 he was awarded with the Defense of Leningrad medal. Rivelsky immigrated to Israel in August 1999 from St. Petersburg and lives in Jerusalem

Every year on May 9 - Victory Day - they parade in uniform throughout Israel to celebrate Nazi Germany's surrender to the Soviet Union.

Afterward, they return home to their modest apartments, where some tick off the days in solitude - and poverty.

'The ceremonies are beautiful. People like to come and say nice words. But nice words don't put food on your plate,' said Abraham Michael Grinzaid, 87, head of an association of Soviet war veterans.

'The rest of the year, no one thinks of us.'

About 1.5 million Jews fought in Allied armies, including 500,000 in the Red Army, 550,000 in the American army, 100,000 in the Polish army and 30,000 in the British army, according to Israel's Holocaust museum Yad Vashem.




Some of those who fought in the Red Army served in the highest levels of command while about 200,000 Soviet Jewish soldiers fell on the battlefield or into German captivity.

Those who survived built families and careers in the Soviet Union, until the Communist regime collapsed and many of them ended up in Israel.

They formed a veterans' association, opening 50 chapters across the country.

Today, most of them are nearly 90 years old, but they gather regularly for lectures and concerts. Some sing in the 42 veterans' choirs nationwide.

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Michael Sandler, 93, joined the Red Army, in 1939, served in the 3rd Guards Tank Army, 91st Separate Tank Brigade, in Stalingrad, then in Berlin and Prague until the end of the war. He immigrated to Israel in 1991

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Nahum Matovich, 87, was an air force bomber pilot on Ilyushin Il-4 bomber in the Soviet 18th Air Army and fought in Japan and Korea. He immigrated to Israel from Kishinev, today's Moldova, in 1994

Israel is home to the world's largest population of Holocaust survivors. Memorials to Holocaust victims and underground partisans are aplenty.

But only in recent years has the Jewish state begun to salute its Jewish war veterans.

That is mostly because many of the veterans immigrated just two decades ago and key war archives are only now being opened, allowing researchers to discover the full extent of Jewish soldiers' role in fighting the Nazis, said Red Army scholar Yitzhak Arad.

It wasn't until last year that Israel erected its first monument to Soviet Jewish soldiers who served in the Second World War. A museum dedicated to Jewish Allied fighters is still under construction.

Mr Grinzaid, of the veterans' association, complained that some Soviet war veterans in Israel receive government stipends amounting to only $50 a month, a pittance compared to the financial support Israeli Holocaust survivors receive.

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Semion Tzvang 89, joined the Red Army in 1941 and served in the First Ukrainian Front, a Soviet army group. He fought in Kiev, Prague and Berlin. Tzvang immigrated to Israel in 1991

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Gregory Stinman, 87, joined the Red Army in 1943 and served in the First Belorussian Front, a Soviet formation equivalent to an Army group, until he was wounded on January 23, 1945. Stinman demobilized in 1950 and immigrated to Israel in 1991 from Belorussia

But Roman Yagel, the head of another group of Soviet veterans, countered that veterans receive generous Israeli support.

He accused Mr Grinzaid of securing stipends for undeserving veterans who did not fight on the battlefield with weapons in hand - one example of bitter political infighting within the Soviet veteran community.

Holocaust survivors are frequently invited to speak about the horrors they experienced.

But Soviet war veterans arrived in Israel as pensioners and most never learned Hebrew so few Israelis know their stories.

Mr Grinzaid was 17 when he enlisted in the Red Army. He was a paratrooper and served in an intelligence unit, earning five medals for his participation in battles across Europe.

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Boris Ginsburg, born in Belorussia, was kept by a German garrison in the Lenin ghetto since 1941 until its destruction by partisan units in September 1942. In 1942 he joined the partisans for two years and in 1944 he joined the Red Army as a combat soldier and fought till the and of the war. Ginsubrg demobilized in 1947 and immigrated to Israel in 2001

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Orlov Naum, 88, joined the Red Army in 1943 after two years of evacuation from Odessa in Kazahstan. He served in 3rd Guard Tank Army at the Voronezh front as an infantry soldier and took part in battle of Kiev and later in battles in Berlin and Prague. During the last days of the war, he was in Prague. After the war, he continued military service in the Navy, served in cruisers Nahimov and Kuibyshev. He immigrated to Israel from Kishinev in 1990

When Russian President Vladimir Putin came to Israel last year, he shook his hand.

Another Soviet veteran, Matvey Gershman, 87, helped liberate the Majdanek concentration camp in Poland. He remembers walking past storerooms filled with women's hair and children's shoes.

Suddenly, he stumbled upon a woman sitting and crying.

'I said, "Grandmother, why are you crying? It's all over,"' Mr Gershman recalled. 'She lifted her head, looked at me, and said, "I am 20 years old".'

Mr Gershman used to march in Israel's annual Victory Day parade before he had heart problems.

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Shalom Skopes, 88, was a battalion commander in the Red Army, and fought in Latvia. During a battle he was injured by a hand grenade and was hospitalized until May 25, 1945, when Skopes demobilized in 1947 and immigrated to Israel in 1959

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Aharon Kavishaner joined the Red Army in 1942, as an air force mechanic and served in the 4th Ukrainian Front, a Soviet army group. He immigrated to Israel in 1991

One year, he walked to the parade with his daughter and grandson, wearing his dark brown uniform featuring gold buttons, blue shoulder stripes and a cascade of medallions. Israeli teenagers on the street pointed at him and laughed.

'They treated him like he was a clown,' said his daughter, Rimma.

'He doesn't want to go out with these medals on anymore. He's embarrassed. They don't know what it is at all.'

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Bev
May 7th, 2013, 07:44 AM
A pardon for thousands of Irish soldiers who joined the British to fight Nazi Germany will help make amends for the shameful way they were treated after the Second World War, Ireland's Justice Minister has said.

The Irish Government will today enact legislation to grant an amnesty to the former troops - who were blacklisted and branded deserters at home.

Ahead of the historic move, Alan Shatter said tens of thousands of Irish people put their lives at risk during the global conflict in the fight against fascism and tyranny.

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'Shameful treatment': Irish soldiers, seen on parade in 1939, who joined the British in the fight against Nazi Germany will be formally pardoned by the country's Government



'The Bill is being enacted in recognition of the courage and bravery of those individuals court martialed or dismissed from the Defence Forces who fought on the Allied side to protect decency and democracy during World War Two,' he said.


'It gives important statutory expression to the apology given by me on behalf of the state last year for the shameful manner in which they were treated.'

Mr Shatter said the pardon would make an important difference to thousands of families in Ireland and goes some way to right the wrongs of the past.

'Unfortunately, many of the individuals whose situation is addressed in this Bill did not live to see the day that this state finally acknowledged the important role that they played in seeking to ensure a free and safe Europe,' he added.

Mr Shatter has already apologised to the ex-soldiers, who were dismissed en masse from the Irish Army under special powers introduced during the Second World War, known as the Emergency in neutral Ireland.


The Defence Forces (Second World War Amnesty and Immunity) Bill 2012 provides for the granting of an amnesty and immunity from prosecution to 5,000 Irish soldiers who fought with the Allies.

They had been found guilty by a military tribunal at the time of going awol.

Special powers brought in - which became known as the starvation order - saw the deserters barred from state jobs, refused military pensions and faced with widespread discrimination.

Mr Shatter has referred to the soldiers as idealists and said people's understanding of history has matured and that it was time for understanding and forgiveness.

In 2006 26 Irish soldiers who were shot at dawn for military offences during the First World War were formally pardoned by the British Government.

The pardon was prompted by the years the Irish Shot At Dawn Campaign spent trying to prove the troops - many of whom were still in their teens - should never have been killed.

The campaign won the support of the Irish Government, which submitted a report to the British outlining the background to each of the executions in 2004.

Legislation was enacted in Britain to clear their names in November 2006.
FRIENDS IN THE FIELD: FOREIGN SOLDIERS WHO FOUGHT WITH THE ALLIES

Ireland remained neutral during the Second World War, but that did not stop thousands of soldiers making the decision to leave the Irish Army and the country behind to join Allied troops on the front line.

And it was not just Irish troops that joined forces with the British and other Allied leaders on the battlefield as the war rumbled on.

The U.S. was neutral early in the war, although it began providing increasing levels of assistance to the Allies before declaring war on Japan in 1941 following it's attack on Pearl Harbour.

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Support: Initially neutral, the U.S. became a leader of the Allies. American soldiers are seen landing on the coast of France under heavy Nazi fire in June 1944 in this image

It went on to become the primary Allied power in the Pacific Theatre as well as, politically, the leader of the western Allies in forming NATO.

Belgium declared its neutrality at the outbreak of war, but joined the Allies after Nazis marched through the country as part of its invasion of France in 1940.

Brazil maintained its neutrality until 1942, when it sided with the Allies. In 1944 Brazil became the only Latin American nation to send troops to Europe when it dispatched the 25,000 strong Brazilian Expeditionary Force to fight on the continent.

The Netherlands declared its neutrality at the start of the conflict in 1939, but was invaded by the Nazis the following year in the face of fierce resistance. The Dutch joined the Allies and their surviving naval and armed forces joined in the defence of East Asia. Dutch troops fought alongside the Allies in landmark struggles including the Battle of Britain.



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What's with the "America saved our arses" reminder? Do they need our help in yet another war?

Eric Brown must rank as the most extraordinary airman alive. Indeed, open his memoirs at any page and you are left asking a single question: how on earth did this modest Scotsman live to tell the tale?

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But Captain Eric ‘Winkle’ Brown RN is very much alive and in sparkling form as he pours me a glass of sherry at his West Sussex home and reflects on an astonishing life. This is the man who has flown more aircraft than anyone else in history.

He was the first man to fly a jet on and off an aircraft carrier. He has set aviation records that will almost certainly never be broken and is revered as one of the greatest test pilots of all time.

But even if you take out the aerobatics, his story is remarkable. Here is a man who narrowly cheated death in the wreckage of a torpedoed ship, helped to liberate Belsen and took 2,000 enemy prisoners armed only with a pistol.

In the immediate aftermath of the war, Eric had to interrogate a bewildering cross-section of leading Nazis, including Hermann Goering, as well as plane manufacturer Enrst Heinkel and designer Willie Messerchmitt.

What’s more, he then had to test all their aircraft. And all this before turning 30. Little wonder that when he arrived at Buckingham Palace at the grand old age of 28 for the fourth time, to receive the AFC in addition to the DSC, MBE and OBE he had already received, George VI greeted him with the words: ‘Not you again.’

In fact, young Brown would soon be back once more to receive the King’s Commendation for Brave Conduct.

Years later, he would end up as an aide-de-camp to the Queen, who would add a CBE to his collection in 1970

Pin-sharp at 94, Eric is in constant demand from historians and documentary makers, while his autobiography, Wings On My Sleeve, is a must-read for any self-respecting aviator.

Now he is about to tell all as one of the star speakers at next month’s Daily Mail-sponsored Chalke Valley History Festival.

What’s more, his appearance on the last weekend in June will coincide with the Chalke Valley History Festival Airshow — one of this summer’s most spectacular, featuring replica dogfights from both World Wars. It will certainly bring back memories for Eric, whose flying career was shaped by these conflicts.

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When Brown arrived at Buckingham Palace at the age of 28 for the fourth time, to receive the AFC in addition to the DSC, MBE and OBE he had already received, George VI greeted him with the words: 'Not you again'

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Brown was introduced to some of the leading lights of the Luftwaffe - including their formidable test pilot Hanna Reitsch (pictured) - having no inkling that, within a couple of years, they would be his sworn enemy

Eric’s father had served in the Royal Flying Corps during the Great War and, along with all former RFC pilots, received an invitation from the newly formed German Luftwaffe to visit the 1936 Olympics.

A promising scholar at Edinburgh’s Royal High School, Eric had recently lost his mother, so his father decided to take the boy to Germany to see the Games.

Among those hosting the RFC delegation was the charismatic Great War ace Ernst Udet, who had become a famous stunt pilot. He took up Eric for a spin — ‘Terrifying stuff’ — and the teenager was hooked.



‘When we landed, Udet gave me the old fighter pilot’s greeting — “Hals und Beinbruch!” [Break your neck and leg] — and told me to learn to fly.’

Eric went on to Edinburgh University, where he studied German and joined the university’s air squadron. During a student trip to Germany, he wrote to Udet, by then a senior Luftwaffe general, who invited Eric into his social circle. The wide-eyed student was introduced to some of the leading lights of the Luftwaffe — including their formidable test pilot and world gliding champion Hanna Reitsch — having no inkling that, within a couple of years, they would be his sworn enemy.
CHALKE VALLEY FESTIVAL, WHERE HISTORY COME ALIVES

Captain Eric 'Winkle' Brown will be talking about his extraordinary career at the Daily Mail Chalke Valley History Festival on Saturday, June 29, at 3.45pm.

The festival is a unique combination of a literary festival, historical reconstructions and a schools' education programme that offers something for all ages.


Speakers include Max Hastings, Ian Hislop, Paddy Ashdown, Antony Beevor, Boris Johnson, Artemis Cooper, Simon Sebag Montefiore and Dan Snow, who will answer audience questions.

The festival runs from June 24 to 30 at Ebbesbourne Wake, near Salisbury. To book an event or find out more information, visit cvhf.org.uk or tel: 01722 781133

‘Udet was like a schoolboy who regarded the whole world as a friend,’ says Eric. ‘He had these riotous evenings at his flat in Berlin. One of his party tricks was a shooting game where you had to fire a pistol at a target behind you, using a mirror. It made a mess of the wall, but he was very good at it.

‘I often wondered what the neighbours thought — but I suppose you didn’t complain if your neighbour was a Nazi general.’

In 1939, having recently arrived in Germany on a teaching exchange, Eric received a knock on the door one morning. ‘Our countries are at war,’ said an SS officer, before taking away Eric for interrogation.

Fearing the worst, he was pleasantly surprised to be dumped at the Swiss border, from where he made his way home as fast as possible to sign up with the RAF.

Like all young pilots, Eric was itching to get airborne and was frustrated by the lack of RAF planes and postings. But there were plenty of vacancies for pilots in the Royal Navy following the loss of the aircraft carrier, HMS Courageous, with more than 500 men, in the opening weeks of the war.

So Eric transferred to the Fleet Air Arm — where he was nicknamed ‘Winkle’ — and retrained as a naval pilot. Before long he was on HMS Audacity, an aircraft carrier escorting vital convoys between Britain and Gibraltar.

His bravery in his Martlet fighter soon earned him the Distinguished Service Cross.

Then, in December 1941, his ship was torpedoed and sank 450 miles off Cape Finisterre. He was one of the few survivors after floating in the water for several hours.

‘I couldn’t walk for a week, but I was lucky,’ he said. ‘As pilots, we had proper lifejackets.’

Back home, his exceptional flying skills had been spotted and he was transferred to special duties as a test pilot. Among his tasks was working out ways of flying Spitfires, Hurricanes and Mosquitoes on and off ships, vastly improving the clout of the Fleet Air Arm.

And when he wasn’t testing the boffins’ latest theories, he was also charged with training a gung-ho band of Canadian Spitfire pilots with whom he saw regular action over France.

By 1944, Eric had moved to the top secret Aerodynamics Flight based at Farnborough.
Eric was transferred to special duties as a test pilot. Among his tasks was working out ways of flying Spitfires (pictured), Hurricanes and Mosquitoes on and off ships, vastly improving the clout of the Fleet Air Arm

Eric was transferred to special duties as a test pilot. Among his tasks was working out ways of flying Spitfires, Hurricanes and Mosquitoes on and off ships, vastly improving the clout of the Fleet Air Arm. Pictured is a Hurricane IIB

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By 1944, Eric had moved to the top secret Aerodynamics Flight based at Farnborough

Winston Churchill needed a solution to the Nazis’ unmanned V1 rocket bombs, which were terrifying the civilian population.

One OF the first had reduced Eric’s home, near Aldershot, to rubble. ‘My wife was injured, our cleaning lady lost an eye and the dogs disappeared, so my interest was personal,’ he says.

Eric helped develop a booster system that could get a fighter alongside a V1 for a short spurt and tip it off-course without colliding.

‘You couldn’t blow it up because you’d fly straight into the debris — but there was a way of nudging its wings using air pressure and not actually touching.’

It led to Eric’s first — and last — bail-out. ‘One day, the engine caught fire and my feet were starting to fry, so it was time to go over the side,’ he says, matter-of-factly.

‘I landed in a pond in a field with this very angry bull in it. Every time I tried to get out of the water, it came at me — and the ambulance and the Home Guard wouldn’t go near it. I shouted at them to get the farmer. I remember him leading it away, saying: “Come on, Ferdinand.”’

As the Allies progressed through Italy and France, Eric became commanding officer of a very exotic unit — Farnborough’s Enemy Aircraft Flight. His task was to capture and evaluate as much Nazi hardware as he could find.

One of the most unappealing was a Messerschmitt 163 — a rocket plane that ran on liquid explosive.

Dozens of German pilots had been killed developing the thing, but Eric still chuckles as he recalls his maiden flight: ‘I soon worked out that the only way to land it without exploding was to run out of fuel first, so you had to get your timings right.’

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As commanding officer of Farnborough's Enemy Aircraft Flight, Eric had to capture Nazi hardware. One of the most unappealing was a Messerschmitt 163 - a rocket plane that ran on liquid explosive (pictured)

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Eric has never forgotten the sights he encountered nor the remorselessness of the female commandant he interrogated, Irma Grese. 'She was the worst human being I ever encountered,' he says

In 1945, landing at a newly captured airstrip in Germany, he met Allied troops investigating rumours of a concentration camp at Belsen.

Realising that Eric had better German than his interpreter, the brigadier in charge asked him along to assist with translation.

Eric has never forgotten the sights he encountered nor the remorselessness of the female commandant he interrogated, Irma Grese.

‘She was the worst human being I ever encountered,’ he says. She was hanged a few days later.

Soon afterwards, Eric flew in to another air base in Denmark, only to discover the Allies had yet to capture it.

‘I was in this little Avro Anson and there were still 2,000 enemy troops there,’ he says.

‘I thought we were for it as we landed, but the commanding officer came up to me, handed me his sword and surrendered on the spot.’

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'Only doing the job': Among his many records is one for the most aircraft carrier landings in history: 2,407. A U.S. naval pilot who tried to beat him got as far as 1,600 before suffering a nervous breakdown

Given his excellent knowledge of German and aeroplanes, Eric interrogated all the enemy top brass. He did not warm to Willie Messerschmitt. ‘We had a bit of a to-do,’ says Eric, with mischievous understatement.

‘I accused him of compromising the integrity of his planes because the wings on some had started falling off. He bridled at that!’

Dr Ernst Heinkel was a ‘funny little man’. Eric’s erstwhile mentor, Udet, had committed suicide in 1941, but one day Winkle found himself in an interview room with Hanna Reitsch, still an unrepentant Hitler worshipper.

‘She was emotional because she had just heard that her father had shot all the women in the family and then himself to spare them from the Russians. So she told me quite a lot.’

He even interviewed Hermann Goering. ‘His uniform was falling off him, but he perked up when I told him he was going to be interviewed by a pilot. He answered all my questions.

‘The first thing I asked was his opinion on the outcome of the Battle of Britain and he said: “A draw.” He said they had not been defeated, but that Hitler had ordered the withdrawal of fighter units to concentrate on Russia.’

After the war, Eric worked with Sir Frank Whittle, the inventor of the jet engine, clocking up numerous life-threatening ‘firsts’ in the field of jet aviation.

Among his unappetising tasks was discovering why certain aircraft would crash at certain speeds, and why planes had a habit of disappearing in storms.

Among his many records is one for the most aircraft carrier landings in history: 2,407. A U.S. naval pilot who tried to beat him got as far as 1,600 before suffering a nervous breakdown.

It is also highly unlikely that anyone will surpass Eric’s world record for flying 487 different types of aeroplane.

A proud grandfather and great-grandfather, he is typical of his generation in insisting that he was ‘only doing the job’.

But Eric Brown did not merely witness history: he made it, too. And it is a hell of a story.



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Bev
May 7th, 2013, 07:47 AM
German authorities have today arrested a 93-year-old alleged former Auschwitz guard on suspicion of accessory to murder.

Hans Lipschis, who once lived in the United States, was taken into custody today after prosecutors concluded there was 'compelling evidence' he was involved in crimes at Auschwitz while there from 1941 to 1945.

Lipschis admits he served with the Nazi SS in the notorious death camp but claims he was only a cook. About 1.5 million people, primarily Jews, were killed at the camp.


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Hans Lipschis was taken into custody Monday after prosecutors concluded there was 'compelling evidence' he was involved in crimes at Auschwitz while there from 1941 to 1945

Lipschis was deported from the U.S. in 1983 for lying about his Nazi past when he immigrated to Chicago in the 1950s after the war.

Stuttgart prosecutors say a doctor confirmed his health remains good enough for him to be kept in detention.

He is expected to be the first person brought to court after investigations were launched by German officials several weeks ago into the Auschwitz guards who escaped scot free after WW2.



Lipschis, who was born in Lithuania in 1919 and was granted 'ethnic German' status in 1943, is accused of working at Auschwitz-Birkenau as a member of the S.S. from 1941 to 1945.

He is suspected of participating in murder and genocide.

Lipschis’ name was added a few weeks ago to a list of wanted Nazi criminals published by Dr Efraim Zuroff, director of the Simon Wiesenthal Centre's office in Israel.

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Hans Lipschis was born in Lithuania in 1919 and was granted 'ethnic German' status in 1943. This is his ID Card from Auschwitz

Over 1.2 million people, mostly Jews, were murdered at Auschwitz in Nazi-occupied Poland during the war.

A German newspaper tracked Lipschis down to a retirement home near Stuttgart where he denied the charges.

He claimed he knew nothing about the horrors committed at the camp and said he was a 'cook for the entire time I was there.'

In the past German prosecutors have relied on eyewitness testimony or paperwork when bringing murder charges against suspected war criminals.

But the conviction of Sobibor death camp guard John Demjanjuk in 2011 in Munich set a new precedent whereby it was enough for people to have served at a site of mass extermination without specific acts being proved.

In 1956 Lipschis fled to the United States and lived in Chicago for 26 years, but was deported to Germany in 1983 after being identified by the U.S. as a Nazi war criminal.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320319/German-police-arrest-Auschwitz-guard-93-accessory-murder.html

Bev
May 9th, 2013, 05:55 AM
Stephen Hawking has forced Israel's treatment of Palestinians into the limelight so we get a boost to this thread.

Mystery over WWII airman who went missing in desert: Family devastated after being told bones found near downed craft cannot be tested for his DNA

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2321443/Mystery-WWII-airman-went-missing-desert-Family-devastated-told-bones-near-downed-craft-tested-DNA.html

A salute to the heroes of the Atlantic: Navy's aircraft carrier HMS Illustrious passes through Thames Barrier on visit to London to mark 70th anniversary of WW2 battle

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2321799/Navys-aircraft-carrier-HMS-Illustrious-passes-Thames-Barrier-visit-London.html

Bev
May 10th, 2013, 10:36 AM
Fighter jets screamed over Red Square and heavy tanks rumbled over its cobblestones as Russia flexed today its military muscle on the anniversary of its costly victory over Nazi Germany in the Second War War.

At the annual military parade President Vladimir Putin told the crowd that Russia will be a guarantor of world security, at the annual military parade on Red Square.

Putin made his short speech at the culmination of Victory Day, marking the defeat of Nazi Germany 68 years ago.

It is Russia's most important secular holiday, honoring the huge military and civilian losses of World War II and showing off the country's modern arsenal

Putin told 11,000 servicemen standing in tight formation on the square and the war veterans in the spectator stands that 'we remember what the tragedy of war means and will do everything so that nobody will ever dare to unleash it anew, threaten our children, our homes and our land.'



He added, 'We will do everything to strengthen security on the planet.'

The Soviet Union lost an estimated 26 million people in the war, of whom 8.5 million were soldiers.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2321858/Russias-Vladimir-Putin-flexes-military-muscle-huge-army-display-68th-anniversary-victory-Nazis.html

Bev
May 12th, 2013, 10:05 AM
Just noting another gratuitous mention.

It was known, for good reason, as the Death Railway. In 1942, after the fall of Singapore, the Japanese army ordered the construction of a jungle railroad from Bangkok to Rangoon to support its assault on India.

Almost 260 miles of track were built by a forced labour workforce consisting of 250,000 local men and 60,000 Allied prisoners of war, whose treatment at the hands of the Japanese was brutal. More than 16,000 prisoners of war and an estimated 90,000 Asian labourers died.

As one of the last remaining survivors, 99-year-old Reg Twigg wrote a remarkable personal testimony of his three years of hell on the River Kwai. Sadly, the former private in the Leicestershire Regiment died last week and never lived to see it published.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2323172/The-Brit-River-Kwai-Reg-Twigg-remaining-survivors-Death-Railway-died-week--story-left-stay-forever.html

Bev
May 14th, 2013, 07:15 AM
Just noting another gratuitous mention:

The Japanese military's forced prostitution of Asian women before and during the Second Word War was necessary to 'maintain discipline' in the ranks and provide rest for soldiers who risked their lives in battle, an outspoken politician has said.

Asian countries that bore the brunt of Japan's wartime aggression have long complained that Japan has failed to fully atone for wartime atrocities.

Speaking yesterday, young, brash Osaka Mayor Toru Hashimoto, who is also co-leader of an emerging conservative political party, told reporters there was no clear evidence that the Japanese military coerced women to become what are euphemistically called 'comfort women'.


He said: 'To maintain discipline in the military, it must have been necessary at that time. For soldiers who risked their lives in circumstances where bullets are flying around like rain and wind, if you want them to get some rest, a comfort women system was necessary. That's clear to anyone.'

Historians say up to 200,000 women, mainly from the Korean Peninsula and China, were forced to provide sex for Japanese soldiers in military brothels.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324225/Toru-Hashimoto-Mayor-defends-using-women-sex-slaves-Japan-WWII-claiming-soldiers-needed-discipline.html

Gibson
May 14th, 2013, 07:43 AM
Just noting another gratuitous mention:

The Japanese military's forced prostitution of Asian women before and during the Second Word War was necessary to 'maintain discipline' in the ranks and provide rest for soldiers who risked their lives in battle, an outspoken politician has said.

Asian countries that bore the brunt of Japan's wartime aggression have long complained that Japan has failed to fully atone for wartime atrocities.

Speaking yesterday, young, brash Osaka Mayor Toru Hashimoto, who is also co-leader of an emerging conservative political party, told reporters there was no clear evidence that the Japanese military coerced women to become what are euphemistically called 'comfort women'.


He said: 'To maintain discipline in the military, it must have been necessary at that time. For soldiers who risked their lives in circumstances where bullets are flying around like rain and wind, if you want them to get some rest, a comfort women system was necessary. That's clear to anyone.'

Historians say up to 200,000 women, mainly from the Korean Peninsula and China, were forced to provide sex for Japanese soldiers in military brothels.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324225/Toru-Hashimoto-Mayor-defends-using-women-sex-slaves-Japan-WWII-claiming-soldiers-needed-discipline.html

As I've said before, I have to assume 'our side' lied about the Japanese almost as much as they did about the Germans. It's called victor's justice - the victors can tell whatever lies they want to, and the vanquished have to believe them, or suffer further losses.

There's probably something in the claims about Japanese 'atrocities', but generally I'd disbelieve them unless they're very well supported by evidence. The 'Rape of Nanking' (300,000 dead, etc), in particular, has been investigated to some extent, and has been found to be lies, just like the 6M jews. See http://www.jiyuushikan.org/e/archives.html and http://www.history.gr.jp/~nanking/index2.html .

Sorry to get off topic. Remove this if it's too irrelevant.

Bev
May 14th, 2013, 11:52 AM
Two weeks after Adolf Hitler committed suicide, German troops and American soldiers fought together to rescue a group of high profile French prisoners in the final days of the war.

The true story is one of the lesser known tales from World War II but reads like the plot of a Hollywood movie.

It was the only time Allied forces fought alongside German soldiers during the six year war.

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American and German troops fought together during World War II to defend a Castle Itter, pictured

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The unlikely alliance was formed to defend a group of high profile French prisoners from an advancing SS unit

Historian Stephen Harding's book 'The Last Battle' recounts the unlikely alliance that was forged to save a group of mainly French politicians who had been held captive at Castle Itter in Austria since the German invasion of France.

The group included former French president Albert Lebrun, former prime ministers Édouard Daladier and Paul Reynaud, military generals Maxime Weygand and Maurice Gamelin and even a famous tennis star called Jean Borotra.





Fourteen American soldiers, with just two tanks and limited ammunition, teamed up with about 20 German Wehrmacht troops to defend the castle from an oncoming SS unit.

Over two days, the bizarre alliance, led by 27-year-old New Yorker Captain Jack Lee, managed to withstand an SS bombardment until Allied reinforcements arrived.

The battle was one of the last of the war.

Harding's book is the culmination of 20 years of research on the battle fought in early May, 1945.

It began after the guards at Castle Itter in Austria's North Tyrol fled on May 4, as the German army became increasingly leaderless.




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The castle was run as a subcamp of Dachau concentration camp but the VIP prisoners were held in relative luxury and were given access to the library and housed in individual guest rooms.

Once the guards had fled, the inmates armed themselves with weapons including submachine guns and rifles left behind in the castle as they waited for Allied forces to rescue them.

On May 5, 1945, troops from the American 103rd Infantry Division liberated the castle.

They had teamed up with a German unit, which had been persuaded to help the prisoners by inmate Zoonimir Cuckovic, who had left the castle to try to find the nearest Allied unit.

Harding wrote in Historynet.com that the unit, led by 'surrender-minded' German Major Josef Gangel, decided to help as they after 'realising that aiding in their rescue would reflect well on him and his men.'

Capt Jack Lee, then ranked as a first lieutenant, had volunteered to lead a patrol to the castle.

His men included six members of the all-African American Company D, 17th Armored Infantry Battalion.


Within hours of the alliance reaching the castle, it was attacked by Waffen-SS troops.

The Nazi troops used antitank guns, which destroyed parts of the castle, and attacked with submachine guns.

Harding said that the French VIP prisoners, including Michel Clemenceau, son of World War I prime minister George, also took up arms.

He wrote that as the SS bombardment intensified, Capt Lee's solution 'was literally medieval: the defenders and the French notables would withdraw into the castle's massive keep.

'They would use their few remaining rounds of ammunition, their bayonets, and—if necessary—their fists to make the SS men fight for every stairwell, every hallway, every floor.'

However, the surviving castle defenders were saved when American 103rd Infantry Division troops finally arrived.

Major Gangel, who is regarded as a hero of anti-Nazi resistance in Germany and Austria for his action, died during the battle after being shot by a sniper.

Jack Lee won the Distinguished Service Cross for his efforts defending the castle.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2323949/The-World-War-II-battle-Americans-Germans-fought-SAME-Incredible-true-story-fight-save-Austrian-castle-weeks-Hitler-committed-suicide.html


Normally I delete the links from the middle of the stories as it makes for easier reading but I left this one.

Bev
May 16th, 2013, 11:36 AM
A Lancaster bomber performed a flypast at Derwent Reservoir today as part of events to mark the 70th anniversary of the war-time Dambusters air raid.

The dam, in the Hope Valley of Derbyshire, was used by the brave airmen for practice runs.

Today, the RAF Battle of Britain Memorial Flight and 617 Squadron recreated history by flying over the twin towers of the reservoir.
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Spectacular: A Lancaster bomber during the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight

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On this day, 70 years ago, a squadron of the RAF's finest took to the skies on a top-secret mission. Their aim was to destroy three dams in the Ruhr valley which were a vital source of industrial power for Nazi Germany.

Using ingenious bouncing bombs, their daring night-time raid saw two of the three dams breached and the mission was hailed a success.

Those 133 crewmen, led by Wing Commander Guy Gibson of 617 squadron, would become known as the Dambusters - a term still applied to the unit.

Here, using a rare audio interview from November 1943, Mail Online presents a first-hand account of life as a Dambuster from Guy Gibson himself - and an interview with his 21st century successor, David Arthurton...




WING COMMANDER GUY GIBSON

In a United States Office of War Information broadcast entitled 'America talks to Australia and New Zealand', John Burton talks to Gibson about his wartime service with the RAF. Recorded and broadcast on November 4, 1943 in San Francisco.

What operations have you been involved in?
After Dunkirk, the Germans were going to invade us. Battle of the Barges, we called it. I saw what they were doing over there. But, they’re beaten in the Battle of Britain for one thing.

Our fighter boys beat them, absolutely licked them. And if they had beaten the fighters, they’re ready to come over in barges.

Now, the British Bomber Command had a limited force but it wasn’t used to smash the Third Reich at that time; it was used solely in what we call the Battle of the Barges.

In other words, to smash these landing barges. Now I used to fly over Flushing, Antwerp, Rotterdam, and Boulogne and all those places, Calais.

Every single basin in their harbours was packed like logs on the river. Packed with them. 2,000-ton barges. Huge things. Armed with flak and capable of carrying about 40 tanks each. Terrific things.

We used to fly over day after day, night after night, fly over at 500 feet, armed to the teeth with small bombs and just sprinkle them across these basins.

Next day we’d go over and find there 40 barges less in the basin. And know we’d sunk 40. Next day we’d go over and find there, say, 60 less, out of about 400. And day after day we used to go and they used to explode as we bombed them, showing that there was explosive on board.

And, a lot of German soldiers were meant to have been drowned when, on one of our heaviest attacks, we sunk about 400 of the things. I wasn’t a squadron commander then, I was just a boy in a squadron and we used to go about 15 of us per squadron used to go over there.

And the flak was very heavy. Our losses were heavy too. In fact, I lost about six boys in my flight in a week doing it.

Have you ever come under fire? How does it feel?
So you cock your guns, which means set them ready for firing, your four cannons and your six machine guns.

And you snuggle up, you turn on your ring sight, put your straps on, see that your parachute is quite ready to bale out should anything go wrong, and wait. And they say: ‘He is a mile and a half ahead. You’ll be seeing him any moment now. Throttle back to 235.’

And then suddenly they’ll say: ‘Change course to due North. He’s straight ahead of you now. Mile ahead. Half a mile. Look out for him now. He’s about 300 feet above you.’ And you get closer and then suddenly you see a smudge on the windscreen.

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Bev
May 16th, 2013, 03:09 PM
Just another gratuitous mention....

A flock of wartime homing pigeons that were fitted with mini parachutes and air-dropped into France were awarded bravery medals after bringing vital intelligence back across the English channel.

The set of five valuable honours awarded to the birds will be shown on the Antiques Roadshow this Sunday and shed new light on the methods the Allies devised to spy on the enemy.

The birds were strapped into mini-parachutes and placed in small crates that were dropped behind enemy lines to be used by the French Resistance.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325607/Wartime-Britains-extraordinary-methods-devised-sending-pigeons-Hitler.html

Bev
May 19th, 2013, 04:53 AM
Fish made from rice, duck made from sausage meat and an omelette made of bread - you would be forgiven for thinking these were dishes from a Heston Blumenthal restaurant.

But these remarkable recipes are actually the creation of resourceful World War II housewives who had to make do with meagre rations.

They show how home cooks improvised with basic ingredients and food they could grow in their back gardens to concoct dishes that were otherwise unavailable in wartime Britain.

Foods like duck, turkey and fish were hard to come by, so ingenious cooks made mock varieties from readily available ingredients like potatoes.

The recipes, that are on display at the British Library’s Propaganda exhibition until September, include ‘Mock Duck’ - a concoction made from potatoes, sausage meat and a little sage - and ‘Imitation Sausage Rolls’, made from beans and meat fat.

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Another recipe explains how to make ‘Mock Fish’, battered ‘fish’ fillets created from ground rice, milk, margarine and anchovy essence.

While ‘Bread Omlette’ is a dish designed to make eggs go further and involves soaking breadcrumbs in milk to make them expand before using them to bulk out the traditional dish.


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Cartoon: Potato Pete was created to encourage people to grow and eat their own potatoes

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Passion for potatoes: These recipes are some of hundreds suggesting different things to do with a potato

And for housewives stuck without a turkey at Christmas there is help at hand. One recipe explains how you can create a Christmas turkey with a joint of mutton and ‘a bit of imagination’.

The recipes were compiled into two books - The Kitchen Front and More From the Kitchen Front - from popular BBC radio broadcasts The Kitchen Front, part of a Ministry of Food campaign.


Aired most mornings during rationing after the 8 o’clock news, the show provided practical information on surviving healthily on rations and emphasised the importance of home grown food.

The programme was often hosted by famous comedians, including Mabel Constanduros in character as the infamous Mrs Buggins, who brought a slice of tongue-in-cheek humour to the serious advice.


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Rationing: Shoppers queue to buy food in London during World War II

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Kitchen Front: A 1941 recipe book (left) and Ministry of Food ration book (right)

Ian Cooke, curator of Propaganda, said: ‘The point was to emphasise how important it was to not waste food and be able to cook healthily and eat healthily on restricted resources, as well as to encourage people to use what was local to them so the country wasn’t relying as much on imports.

‘There was a lot of concern over the nutritional value of food. They wanted people to have a feeling food was something to be enjoyed, something to be proud about.’

He added the comic edge to the programme made it particularly successful.

‘The idea was to really bring home how important the issues were in a way that wasn’t going to wear people out,’ he said.

‘The recipes were meant to be practical. They were supposed to be easy and quick so women could get into work. They were made with food what would be available.’
MOCK DUCK FOR DINNER? THE WARTIME RECIPES YOU CAN TRY AT HOME
Mock Fish

Bring half a pint of milk to the boil, shower in two ounces of ground rice and add a teaspoonful of chopped onion or leek, a piece of margarine the size of a small walnut, and a seasoning of anchovy essence.

Let this simmer gently for 20 minutes, then take the pan off the fire, and stir in a well-beaten egg.

Mix well together, and the spread the mixture out on a flat dish: it should be about half an inch thick.

When it is cold, cut it into pieces the size and shape of fish fillets, brush these with milk, roll them in breadcrumbs, and fry until golden-brown. Serve parsley sauce with them.

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Mock Duck

Boil a chopped large onion or leek in a little water. When cooked, mix with a little sage. Boil and mash 2lbs of potatoes.

Now take a fairly large piedish, put a thin layer of sage and onion at the bottom, next a layer of sausage meat (use 1 1/2lbs in total), then a layer of mashed potatoes. Continue this way until the dish is full. The last layer of potatoes forming a sort of crust.

Press evenly with a fork and make a few holes with a skewer. Into the holes pour a little thick brown gravy (made from the onion and potato water).

Bake in a fairly hot oven for about 30 minutes. Serve with boiled chopped carrots, turnips or beans, and the remainder of the thick brown gravy.

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Mock Hamburger Steak

Take 4oz mince, 8oz grated raw potato, 4oz oatmeal, a little chopped leek or onion if available, pinch of herbs or mint and parsley chopped together, 1 tablespoon of Worcester sauce and pepper, salt and mustard.

Mix all the ingredients together and form into four cakes. Fry in a little hot fat for 15 to 20 minutes.


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Dig for Victory: The Government encouraged people to grow their own food


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Homegrown: Parks, golf clubs, tennis courts and grass verges were turned into 1,400,000 allotments

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Exhibition: The recipes form part of a show of propaganda from around the world at the British Library


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It is 70 years since the Ministry of Food’s leaflets taught Britons to eat well on rations and stay ‘fit for the fight’ during the Second World War.

But much of the long-forgotten dietary advice still stands and, says a leading nutritionist, could help improve our diet today.

A new book, Eating For Victory, reproduces the leaflets distributed along with posters in the 1940s.

Here is some of the advice as it was printed. It’s accompanied by wartime illustrations – with a modern interpretation of the old wisdom...

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A new book, Eating For Victory, contains posters which were distributed by the Ministry of Food to try and encourage Britons to eat healthily during WWII. Dr Carrot, pictured, and his companion Potato Pete were two of the Ministry of Food's most popular creations

POTATOES

There is no vegetable more useful than the homely potato. It is a valuable yet cheap source of energy, and one of the foods that help to protect us from ill-health.

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It contains Vitamin C and 1lb of potatoes daily will give half the amount of this vitamin needed to prevent against fatigue and fight infection.

So don’t think of potatoes merely as something to serve with the meat. A stuffed baked potato can be a course in itself.

Bridget Benelam, a scientist at the British Nutrition Foundation, says: ‘A medium-sized baked potato, with skin, provides a third of the recommended daily amount (RDA) of Vitamin C – twice that of an apple.

It will also provide half the RDA of potassium – important for blood pressure and water balance – iron, zinc and B vitamins.’
Britons were encouraged to eat potatoes in the 1940s are they are a cheap source of energy and packed full of vitamin C

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Leaflets were also distributed encouraging people to eat cheese

The homely potato: Britons were encouraged to eat potatoes in the 1940s, pictured left, as they are a cheap source of energy and packed full of vitamin C. Leaflets were also distributed encouraging people to eat cheese because it is a 'concentrated energy-giving food', pictured right

CHEESE

Cheese is an A1 food because it is an excellent body-builder, better than meat for building firm muscles. It builds strong bones and teeth, too. Therefore, it is invaluable for growing children. Plenty of cheese in childhood means less dental trouble in later life.

It is a concentrated energy-giving food, especially suitable for heavy workers as it gives a large amount of energy in small bulk. It contains a high proportion of fat and so gives a feeling of satisfaction after a meal.

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Eat like a granny: Bridget Benelam says much of the advice given in the 1940s is still relevant today

Bridget says: ‘A matchbox-sized serving, 30g, of cheese provides a quarter of our daily calcium needs – crucial for maintaining bone density – although milk or yogurt might be better choices as they are lower in fat.

‘Cheese is as good a source of protein as meat but generally contains more fat, so should be eaten less.’

HERRINGS

‘Of all the fish that swim in the sea,’ runs the old saying, ‘the herring is the king.’ Consider the herring’s food value. It is a very cheap source of the best body-building protein.

Herring oil not only supplies an extraordinarily high number of calories and energy-giving units, but it also contains two vitamins, A and D. Vitamin A strengthens resistance to disease and Vitamin D is essential for bones and teeth.

Bridget says: ‘This is still true – herrings are an excellent source of fish oil. Research since the 1940s has shown the omega 3 in oily fish is important for good heart and brain health.

'We should eat two portions of fish a week, one oily. Nowadays other types of fish are readily available, such as tuna.’

DRIED EGGS

Dried egg is pure fresh egg with no additions, and nothing but the moisture taken away. It is pure egg, spray-dried.

Eggs contain first-class body-building material. They also help us to resist colds and other infection because of their high protective properties. They are easily digested, and for this reason are especially good for children and invalids.

Bridget says: ‘Transporting food is easy now so we generally eat only fresh eggs. Two medium eggs provide your entire RDA of B12, important for blood and brain function, and 60 per cent of our Vitamin D requirement. They are also high in protein.’

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King of the sea: Herring was a cheap, readily-available fish that provided a lot of protein and vitamins

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Britons were encouraged to eat dried eggs for their protein, Vitamin D and B12 content, but modern transportation means people now only really eat fresh eggs

King of the sea: Herring was a cheap, readily-available fish that provided a lot of protein and vitamins, pictured right, while Britons were encouraged to eat dried eggs for their protein, Vitamin D and B12 content, pictured right, as food transportion in the 1940s wasn't what it is today and fresh eggs were harder to come by

VITAMINS

Enemies of Vitamins: air, water, heat. Too much of any of these will destroy the Vitamin C. Therefore, have your vegetables as fresh as possible.

Best of all, grow them yourself. Wash your vegetables in salted water but do not soak them overlong. Shred them before cooking to cook quickly.

Bridget says: ‘Oxidisation occurs when certain vitamins in food are exposed to heat, air or light, meaning they degrade and become ineffective. This is particularly true of Vitamin C, often lost in cooking water.

'It is best not to cut up veg in advance as the air will degrade the vitamins. Steaming is the best method of cooking.’



GREEN VEGETABLES

When fresh fruit is short, we need green vegetables more than ever because they all contain the important fresh-fruit vitamin, Vitamin C.

Some have more than others. Brussels sprouts, parsley and watercress all contain more than oranges. For healthy eating, plan to have a green leafy vegetable at least once every day.

Bridget says: ‘This all holds true – vegetables can have just as much Vitamin C as fruit. In fact, a pepper contains double the Vitamin C of an orange and will provide your entire daily requirement.

‘Dark green leaves are an important source of antioxidants, which protect cells from a host of diseases from cancer to age-related sight loss.’

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Dig for Victory Now: Britons were encouraged to grow their own vegetables to help with food rationing

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Dig for Victory Now: Britons were encouraged to grow their own vegetables to help with food rationing during World War II, pictured left, while soups were suggested as a quick and healthy dinner, pictured right

SOUPS AND BROTHS

Once upon a time cooks used to think a good soup needed three or four hours’ cooking, and that to be nourishing it must be made from meat and bones.

Today we know better. Tasty soups can be made quickly using vegetables and vegetable water, or stock from meat cubes or vegetable extract.

Bridget says: ‘Soup has a good reputation for being healthy because it’s low-calorie but fills you up because it contains a lot of water.

'The vegetables added will provide different vitamins, which won’t be lost in cooking as they just leach into the liquid.

'Soup can also be high in fibre, which keeps the gut healthy. Stock cubes can be high in salt, though

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I wish there was a feature that would allow posters to paint big red arrows on threads - I'd put one here and aim it at the British Resources running out threads.....

Bev
May 22nd, 2013, 08:20 AM
One of the last remaining survivors of the largest Jewish revolt of the Second World War has died at the age of 93.

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Boruch Spiegel, who is believed to have given the signal to launch the Warsaw Ghetto uprising of 1943, was described by his son Julius as a 'reluctant hero', following his death in Montreal.

Mr Spiegel was among 750 Jews who managed to hold off heavily armed German soldiers for more than a month as they tried to storm the Polish ghetto, intent on transporting its occupants to Nazi death camps.

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'Reluctant hero': Boruch Spiegel, seen in a family photograph taken in the 1970s or 1980s, fought the Nazis during the Warsaw Ghetto uprising of 1943

With Mr Spiegel's death on May 9, the tiny group of survivors of the legendary World War II revolt that was crushed 70 years ago this month grows even smaller.

The then 23-year-old was one of about 750 Jewish fighters who on April 19, 1943, launched an uprising that took the Germans off guard.

The fighters were overwhelmingly outnumbered and outgunned and the revolt never had a real chance of victory, but the determined insurgents still managed to hold out for a month - longer than some countries invaded by Hitler.


'He was very modest, a reluctant hero,' his son Julius Spiegel said of his father. 'He was given an opportunity and he took it. I don’t think he was braver or more resourceful than anyone else.'

By the end of May German forces had crushed the uprising, by which time Mr Spiegel had escaped the ghetto through the sewers along with a few dozen other fighters - among them his future wife, Chaika Belchatowska.

They trawled through underground sewage canals to reach the so-called 'Aryan side' of the Polish capital.

Those left behind were sent to death camps such as Treblinka, where most died.

Their struggle endures as a symbol of resistance against the odds and a desire to maintain human dignity in the worst of possible conditions.

Ultimately, though, the German revenge was brutal; the Warsaw Ghetto was systematically burned down building by building, culminating in the demolition of the Great Synagogue of Warsaw.

After surviving the ghetto uprising, Mr Spiegel and his future wife joined the Polish partisans and also took part in the 1944 Warsaw Uprising, a larger city-wide revolt against the occupying Germans.

'He was essentially an ordinary guy forced by circumstances to do things that were out of character,' Julius Spiegel said.



Born in October 1919, Mr Spiegel grew up in Warsaw, the son of an Orthodox woman and a leather worker father, according to a New York Times report.

After the Germans invaded in 1939, Mr Spiegel and his brother Beryl became involved in the Bundist underground.

The Spiegel family managed to hold out for a period as Jewish families were deported around them, thanks to a steel door on their apartment, but his father died of malnutrition and his mother, two sisters, and brother Beryl died in a manner he never learned.

Mr Spiegel himself was once taken to the staging area for the Treblinka camp, but managed to escape and return to the ghetto, the report said.

Even after the Germans crushed the 1943 uprising, Mr Spiegel fought with Partisans before returning to Warsaw to fight with Poles in a further revolt from August to September 1944. Warsaw was liberated in January 1945.

The Spiegels moved to Canada in 1948, where Mr Spiegel followed in the footsteps of his father by working in the leather industry, eventually establishing his own factory.

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Resistance: Fire breaks out on a city street during the Warsaw Ghetto uprising in 1943

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Crushed: German troops stand over a group of Jews captured in a basement in the ghetto in May 1943

It's not clear how many of the Warsaw Ghetto fighters are still living, but the number is certainly small.

When Poland held national ceremonies last month marking the 70th anniversary of the start of the ghetto uprising, officials in Warsaw said they believed there could be four survivors left.

Only one, Simha Rotem, was visibly present at the ceremony, giving a speech and accepting a high state honor from the Polish president.

However, Havi Dreifuss, a historian and Holocaust expert with Tel Aviv University and Yad Vashem, the Jerusalem-based Holocaust research institution and museum, warned against trying to put a number on how many fighters remain, in part because it's sometimes hard to distinguish fighters from other resisters.

She noted that aside from those with weapons, there were others who were entrenched in hiding places and refused to obey Nazi orders to show up for transportations to labor or concentration camps, and that an appreciation has grown over time for their resistance during the uprising.

Borech Spiegel is survived by his son, Julius, a retired parks commissioner for Brooklyn, daughter Mindy Spiegel of Montreal, and four grandchildren. His wife died in 2002.
RESISTANCE AGAINST THE ODDS: HOW DETERMINED JEWISH FIGHTERS BATTLED TO HOLD OFF INEVITABLE GERMAN SURGE

During the Second World War as many as 400,000 Polish Jews were crammed into the confines of the Warsaw Ghetto.

Within its walls they lived under the shadow of rampant disease and starvation, even before German troops began transporting Jews en masse to the Treblinka extermination camp.

The seeds were sown for the Warsaw Ghetto uprising in January 1943, when German soldiers arriving to implement a second deportation of Jews to the camp were met by Jewish resistance fighters who engaged them in clashes.

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Battle of honour: A Jewish rebel is seen leaving a house surrounded by German soldiers inside the Warsaw Ghetto, during the uprising that peaked during April and May 1943

The deportation was halted after a period of days and only saw 5,000 - rather than the intended 7,000 - Jews taken away. The occupants of the ghetto were ready to fight what was regarded as a battle of honour for the Jewish people, led by two resistance organisations; the ZZW and the ZOB.

On 19 April 1943 the police and SS auxiliary forces entered the ghetto for a further deportation action intended to last three days.

They were ambushed by Jewish insurgents firing and tossing Molotov cocktails and hand grenades from alleyways, sewers, and windows. The Germans suffered casualties and their advance was halted.

German forces resorted to systematically burning down the ghetto, building by building, prompting thousands of surviving Jews and fighters to take cover in underground bunkers or the sewer system. Many were forced out of their hiding places by troops who dropped in smoke bombs.

On May 8, the Germans discovered a large dugout located at Miła 18 Street, which served as ŻOB's main command post. Most of the organisation's remaining leadership and dozens of others committed a mass suicide by ingesting cyanide.

The suppression of the uprising officially ended on 16 May 1943, with the demolition of the Great Synagogue of Warsaw.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2328951/Boruch-Spiegel-Reluctant-hero-Warsaw-Ghetto-uprising-dies-93.html

Bev
May 24th, 2013, 11:36 AM
A new book out in Germany reveals how President Kennedy was a secret admirer of the Nazis.

The news comes embarrassingly close to a visit being paid to Berlin next month by President Obama - one week before 50th anniversary commemorations of JFK's memorable 'Ich bin ein Berliner' speech pledging US solidarity with Europe during the Cold War.

President Kennedy's travelogues and letters chronicling his wanderings through Germany before WWII, when Adolf Hitler was in power, have been unearthed and show him generally in favour of the movement that was to plunge the world into the greatest war in history



'Fascism?' wrote the youthful president-to-be in one. 'The right thing for Germany.'

In another; 'What are the evils of fascism compared to communism?'

And on August 21, 1937 - two years before the war that would claim 50 million lives broke out - he wrote: 'The Germans really are too good - therefore people have ganged up on them to protect themselves.'

And in a line which seems directly plugged into the racial superiority line plugged by the Third Reich he wrote after travelling through the Rhineland: 'The Nordic races certainly seem to be superior to the Romans.'

The future president's praise is now embarrassing in hindsight - a few years later he fought in War War Two against the Nazis and his elder brother Lt. Joseph Patrick 'Joe' Kennedy, Jr was killed.

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Revealing: Presidential diaries and photographs are among more than 500 items from a collection John F. Kennedy documents and artifacts


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329556/How-JFK-secretly-ADMIRED-Hitler-Explosive-book-reveals-Presidents-praise-Nazis-travelled-Germany-Second-World-War.html


I thought everyone knew this. :confused:

A photographer who shot a series of iconic Second World War images after serving with an elite Navy unit, has died aged 94.

Wayne Miller also spent the years after the conflict chronicling the lives of black Americans in Chicago.

His best-known wartime photograph shows a wounded pilot being pulled from a downed fighter plane - an aircraft Miller himself had been scheduled to be aboard before it was shot down. The photographer who took his place was killed.
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Photographer Wayne Miller produced some of the most indelible images of World War II. In this, a wounded pilot is pulled from a downed fighter plane on November 5th, 1943. Miller had been scheduled to be aboard the plane before it was shot down

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329729/Photographer-shot-iconic-Second-World-War-images-serving-elite-Navy-unit-dies-aged-94.html


A Nazi war tank that police found in a drug dealer's back garden was sold on eBay for more than £5,000.

Officers came across the intimidating machine as they raided the property of David Barrett, 46, after he was jailed for his part in a huge heroin smuggling plot.

Fortunately, the vehicle turned out only to be a replica of a German SDKFZ 222 'Helga' tank - which was used in reconnaissance missions during the Second World War.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330258/Tank-sale-Nazi-war-tank-discovered-drug-dealers-garden-police-raid-auctioned-5-000.html

.....and fortunately gave the DM another excuse to launch into a WWII history lesson.

Bev
May 28th, 2013, 08:34 AM
A Japanese politician who sparked an international row after claiming the use of sex slaves during WWII was justified has tried to shift the blame by accusing other country's of using the same practice.

Osaka Mayor Toru Hashimoto, co-leader of an emerging nationalist party, argued Japan's wartime practice of forcing Asian women into prostitution was necessary to maintain military discipline and provide relaxation for soldiers.

But following the public outcry over his comments, the mayor has attempted to deflect criticism by accusing America and Britain of using sex slaves for its own soldiers.




He said: 'It is a hard truth that even these nations used local women for sexual reasons. This is a historical fact and there is hard evidence that proves it was true.'


Historians say up to 200,000 women, mainly from the Korean Peninsula and China, were forced to provide sex for Japanese soldiers in military brothels. While some other World War II armies had military brothels, Japan is the only country accused of such widespread, organized sexual slavery.

Hashimoto, a lawyer and former TV personality, created an uproar with comments to journalists two weeks ago about Japan's modern and wartime sexual services, which he said were misquoted.

He is reported to have said: 'To maintain discipline in the military, it must have been necessary at that time.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2332027/Britain-US-kept-sex-slaves-World-War-Two-says-Japanese-mayor-Toru-Hashimoto.html

Bev
May 28th, 2013, 09:58 AM
Rusty beds, vine-covered buildings and empty corridors with walls covered in graffiti and slowly peeling paint are what remains of a gigantic hospital which once treated Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, after it was abandoned in the fall of East Germany.

Beelitz-Heilstätten, a 60-building treatment complex southwest of the German capital, was built in the late 19th century to help rehabilitate the growing number of tuberculosis patients in the expanding city of Berlin.

During the Great War, Beelitz-Heilstätten - or Beelitz Sanatorium - was turned into a military hospital and was where a young Adolf Hitler was treated for a thigh injury acquired during the Battle of the Somme.
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Walls of woes: A corridor at the Beelitz Sanatorium is littered with graffiti on its peeling paint after decades of being left to ruin in the forest southwest of Berlin

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Green serenity: Over the years, the exterior walls of Beelitz- Heilstätten have been covered in vines and its courtyard is now resembling the surrounding forest


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The doctor will see you now: A former surgery in one of the hospital buildings has been decorated by urban explorers who have visited over the years



Beelitz-Heilstätten was built between 1898 and 1930 after an initiative by the German National Insurance Institute who found that the closeness to Berlin in combination with the fresh air of the countryside made the location ideal for a sanatorium.

Parts of the complex was turned into a military hospital by the German Imperial Army when World War I broke out and was where Adolf Hitler was sent to recover from his war wounds in late 1916.



The 60-building complex did not only have treatment facilities but functioned as a little village and had a butcher's, a post office, a restaurant, a bakery and even its own power station which was so powerful snow never settled on Beelitz-Heilstätten’s grounds.

Although the economic crisis following the war saw many wards close, Beelitz-Heilstätten was considered a global frontrunner in tuberculosis treatment.

During the Second World War several buildings were bombed by the Allied Forces and in 1945 it was occupied by Soviet forces and remained a Soviet military hospital even after Germany united in 1990.

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Hitler's hospital: The haunting remains of Nazi Germany's Beelitz...


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Empty halls: Although the rooms at the sanatorium are nothing but dilapidated ruins, this is the hospital where Adolf Hitler recovered from his war wounds in World War I

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Haunted house: Hitler was not the only dictator to recuperate at Beelitz-Heilstätten - it was also where GDR leader Erich Honecker received treatment for liver cancer in 199
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Grand old stairs in Beelitz Sanatorium
A dilapidated stairwell and a sign reading 'Obstetrics', 'Surgery' and 'Internal' possibly indicating the number of patients

Memories: A dilapidated stairwell and a sign reading 'Obstetrics', 'Surgery' and 'Internal' - possibly indicating the number of patients at the time of abandonment
Ruined retreat: A bathtub stands alone in one of the rooms at Beelitz-Heilstätten which was built as a tuberculosis sanatorium in the late 1800s

Ruined retreat: A bathtub stands alone in one of the rooms at Beelitz-Heilstätten which was built as a tuberculosis sanatorium in the late 1800s

Hitler was not the only dictator to recuperate at Beelitz-Heilstätten. In 1990 GDR leader Erich Honecker received treatment for liver cancer and after her was deposed following the fall of East Germany, he used Beelitz-Heilstätten as his starting point in his flight to Russia to escape prosecution.

The Soviet Army withdrew in 1995, after which several attempts were made to privatize Beelitz- Heilstätten, without success.

Sections of the hospital remained open after the military left and were used as a neurological rehabilitation center to help sufferers of Parkinson's disease. Lights out: The bulbs are long gone from this light in one of the operating theatres and the beds remain as they were left, rusting away in the surgery



Windows to the past: The sun outside is a stark contrast to the peeling walls and ghost-like air of the sanatorium which was in use for nearly 100 years
Hidden: When the doctors and patients moved out, the surrounding Beelitz forest moved in to the sanatorium and reclaimed the grounds

Hidden: When the doctors and patients moved out, the surrounding Beelitz forest moved in to the sanatorium and reclaimed the grounds

Finally, in 2000, the last operations in Beelitz- Heilstätten were closed and the complex was completely abandoned.

Urban explorers describe the complex as 'easy to enter' and many are baffled by the ease of access and the fact that none are secured and only a few are boarded up.

Its ‘ghost town’ air has appealed to more than just those looking to explore the grounds and Beelitz-Heilstätten has been used as a set for Oscar winner The Pianist and 2008 film Valkyrie starring Tom Cruise.

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City of the damned: The 60-building complex did not only have treatment facilities but functioned as a little village and had a butcher's, a post office, a restaurant, stables and a bakery

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2331779/Hitlers-hospital-The-haunting-remains-Nazi-Germanys-Beelitz-Sanatorium-rusting-operating-tables-lain-untouced-abandoned.html

I've messed the captions and pictures up somehow, but you get the gist. Video on link.

Bev
May 31st, 2013, 06:23 AM
A group of Norwegian students discovered a Second World War hideout behind a panel in the attic of their shared house following a tip-off from their landlord.

The secret doorway, found as the group took a break from their studies, led to a room containing a table, an alarm and a map showing Britain and northern France on the walls.

A note written in Norwegian warns: 'If you have a bad stomach, you do not have access.'

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Hidden: The secret room lay hidden behind a partition in the attic of a Norwegian house

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Surprise: The narrow room contained an alarm and a sign in Norwegian

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Warning: The message loosely translates to 'If you have a bad stomach, you do not have access'

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Charts: A map of southern Britain and northern France was taped to the wall of the hidden room

The student, who posted the images on Reddit under the username mYNDIG, said: 'Our houselord told us that there might be a hidden room there, and what else to do when you should study for exams than actually go and look?

'Took us damn long time, and was found by accident when one of the people I live with just stretched out and the wall moved.'



He described finding the room as 'the best prize'.

The bolt hole discovery will remind many of teenage diarist Anne Frank and her family, who hid in Nazi-occupied Holland for two years before they were captured by the Gestapo and sent to concentration camps.

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Alarm: A warning light was wired onto the wall of the room

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Doll: The students also found this solitary toy shoe in the attic
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Empty: The attic appears to be completely normal

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Opening: The room was discovered when one of the student's housemates leant on the wooden panel

Other Reddit users suggested that the room has been used for listening to the BBC during World War II or as a hiding place.

One wrote: 'Norwegians would listen to English BBC radio and then make underground newspapers to spread news of how the war was truly going (the Germans only spread propaganda).'

While another said: 'Rooms this size were often used to hide a lot more people than you would expect. It was probably used by a whole family.'
WAS THE ATTIC ROOM A WARTIME HIDEOUT SIMILAR TO ANNE FRANK'S?

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Anne Frank hid with her family in an attic in Amsterdam for two years - Reddit users speculated that the Norwegian find could have been a similar bolt hole

The Norwegian attic find posted on Reddit led to suggestions that the room was used as a hideaway similar to that by diarist Anne Frank.

Anne and her family hid from the Nazis in an Amsterdam attic for two years before they were captured by the Gestapo.

Their whereabouts had been betrayed by a supposed friend. They had arrived in the Netherlands in 1933 after leaving Germany.

Only Anne's father Otto survived the concentration camps.

Anne and her sister Margot both died of typhus while being held prisoner in the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp in 1945.

Anne died at the age of 15, only two weeks before the camp was liberated.

The teenager's diary, which she began writing in 1942, was discovered in the Amsterdam attic by a family friend Miep Gies and returned to Otto Frank.

He edited and published the diary two years after the end of the Second World War.

It has since been published in 60 different languages, translated from its original Dutch, and is a popular book for school students.

The Franks' hiding place later opened to the public as Anne Frank House, a museum, in 1960.


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Panel: The secret room lay hidden behind this innocuous wooden panelling

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Attic: The student documented his mission into the loft of his house to find the room

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Step-by-step: The ladder leading up to the attic where the student found the hidden room


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2333487/Secret-room-Norwegian-tenants-discover-secret-WWII-bolt-hole-wooden-panel-attic-map-Europe-wall-cryptic-note-table.html

john-connor
June 1st, 2013, 01:25 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2334397/Nazis-narcotics-How-Hitlers-henchmen-stayed-alert-war-taking-CRYSTAL-METH.html Nazis on narcotics: How Hitler's henchmen stayed alert during war by taking CRYSTAL METH

Millions of pills labelled Pervitin dolled out to troops during war

Bev
June 4th, 2013, 07:19 AM
Just recording a gratuitous mention:

It may look like a tropical paradise, but this stunning lagoon masks a dark secret... under the clear blue waters lies the biggest graveyard of ships in the world.

In the Second World War Chuuk Lagoon was Japan's main base in the South Pacific, but in 1944, American forces launched an attack and over a two day bombardment more than 60 warships ended up on the floor of the lagoon.

Years later the Japanese still pay their respects at the watery graves each year, but now the site, formally known as Truk Lagoon due to a mispronunciation, offers scuba divers a chance to explore a piece of living history.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2335607/Worlds-biggest-ship-graveyard-Tropical-waters-South-Pacific-hide-haunting-wreckage-World-War-II-battle-left-60-Japanese-warships-rusting-lagoon-floor.html

Bev
June 4th, 2013, 07:28 AM
Two bottles of French champagne confiscated by the Nazis during World War Two and then 'liberated' by a British RAF member are to go under the hammer.

The bottles - a Chateau de Mareuilsay Montebello 1937 and a Monopole Red Top, by Heidsieck, from an unknown date - are both unopened and in good condition.

They were discovered by an RAF serviceman who was serving in France following D-Day in 1944, and who left them to his daughter. She then sold them to the unnamed vendor 10 years ago.

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Two bottles of French Champagne confiscated by the Nazis during World War Two and then 'liberated' by a British RAF member are to go under the hammer
Two bottles of 1930's French champagne



The bottles have been stamped with identical red labels in German and French which read 'Wehrmachts - Marketenderware Verkauf in Freien Handel verboten' - Sales in the Free Market are Prohibited - and 'Reserve a la Wehrmacht, Achat et Revente interdits' - Reserved for German Army Not for Resale or Purchase.

Around 80 per cent of French champagne was seized by the occupying Germans following the invasion of 1940.



Auctioner Charles Hanson said while Adolf Hitler was teetotal, chief of the Luftwaffe Hermann Goering filled vast cellars with stolen bottles of champagne following the invasion of France.

He said: 'Following the German conquest of France, the Nazi high command consumed vast amounts of champagne to flaunt their victory.

'They even set up a permanent office at Reims to control the production of fizz, ensuring themselves a constant supply.

'It is remarkable that these two bottles of bubbly still exist, considering the unquenchable thirst the Nazi forces seemed to have for fine French Champagne.

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The bottles were discovered by an RAF serviceman who was serving in France following D-Day in 1944, and left them to his daughter. She then sold them to the unnamed vendor 10 years ago

'Although Adolf Hitler himself was teetotal, chief of the Luftwaffe Hermann Goering filled vast cellars with stolen bottles.

'And some of the last planes into besieged Stalingrad in 1942 to 1943 were carrying crates of vintage champagne to desperate military officers.'

The bottles are expected to fetch up to £150 each when they are sold in Etwell, Derbyshire, on June 20.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2335515/Bottles-French-champagne-confiscated-Nazis-following-1940-invasion-set-auctioned-off.html

Bev
June 6th, 2013, 11:45 AM
They're iconic images which capture the brutal reality of the D-Day landings 69 years ago today - but they were nearly lost forever.

War photographer Robert Capa took these remarkable close-up photos - named The Magnificent Eleven - which show Allied troops in the second wave landing on Omaha beach in Normandy on June 6, 1944.

The Hungarian bravely took 106 photographs while wading through the water just off the French coast but because of a blunder when processing the film in London, all but 11 of the images were lost.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2336753/Stunning-shots-Allied-troops-storming-Omaha-Beach-Normandy-war-photographer-Robert-Capa-narrowly-avoided-lost-forever.html

Gratuitous mention. Too many photos to post.

Bev
June 6th, 2013, 11:51 AM
Gratuitous mention. Too many photos to post.

Same again.

It was the scene of some of D-Day’s fiercest fighting, where almost 700 brave British troops were killed or wounded.

Exactly 69 years ago today - June 6 1944 - courageous UK forces went ashore at Sword Beach into a ferocious barrage from German guns.

But on the anniversary of the Normandy landings, as thousands congregate on the coast to remember the selfless Allied sacrifice, veterans are furious their role in history is being airbrushed by money-grabbing French tourism chiefs.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2336615/D-Day-heroes-wiped-map-French-Veterans-fury-tourism-chiefs-ignore-Sword-Beach-promotional-campaign.html

Bev
June 7th, 2013, 07:14 AM
It was a disaster that in one sharp instant brought the grim reality of World War II thundering home.

On April 30, 1940, Frederick Gill and his wife Dorothy became the first British civilian casualties of WWII when a German bomber loaded with mines slammed onto their home in Calcton, Essex.

The twin-engined Heinkel, which had been circling over the seaside town for about 30 minutes, smashed into the quiet residential Victoria Street, obliterating most of the Gills' home.

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Crash site: The wreckage of the German Heinkel bomber after it smashed into the home of Frederick Gill and his wife Dorothy who became the first British civilian casualties of WW2


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Fund: The ledger and account book of the fund set up in the wake of the disaster


As well as the two killed, 160 people were injured and 67 houses damaged, some severely. Eyewitness Ron Guyott, 82, who was nine at the time remembers: 'I was in bed asleep. It (the crash ) blew in all the windows.



'Luckily the night blinds kept us clear of it. It looked as though (the plane) was sitting on top of a house'

The local community rallied to help and in the wake of the tragedy, a disaster fund was set up to help local residents who had been affected by the crash and by enemy raids.

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Devastation: The bomber crash caused a huge amount of damage to the quiet residential street in the Essex seaside town

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Assistance: The ledger lists the names of residents who had received cash from the fund



Generosity: The ledger shows donations to the fund, including one from famous band leaders Joe Loss & Billy Cotton. It was not just local people that donated but people from across Britain

The fund was administered by a number of CUDC officials and continued to be used throughout the war to help anyone affected by enemy air activity.

Of course after the war there was little use for the money and in 1946 the remaining balance of £243, 13 shillings and six pence was deposited into a Post Office Savings bank account and simply forgotten about.

But now over 70 years after it was first set up, a ledger containing details of the fund has been discovered during an office move at Clacton Town hall and with interest over the years it is worth around £1,700.

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Mark of respect: Members of the RAF stand to attention as the German airmen are buried


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Currently the only commemoration to the crash is this small plaque on a bench. But councillors hope the money from the account can be used to create a memorial

The fund was originally established by the Rev HG Redgrave, then Chairman of Clacton Urban District Council (CUDC), after the Heinkel came down in Victoria Road, Clacton, on April 30, 1940,

Although a bench and plaque already exist to mark the tragedy, Tendring District Council (TDC) is now looking to use the remaining money to enhance the site, creating a focal point and memorial which could be signposted from the town's seafront.

Alan Goggin, TDC's Cabinet Member for Tourism, said that the fund and documents are an important part of the town's historical past and suggested a memorial on the spot where the Heinkel came down.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337042/Long-forgotten-WWII-disaster-fund-set-1940-German-bomber-crashed-residential-Essex-street-uncovered-1-700-account.html

Henry.
June 7th, 2013, 02:55 PM
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337042/Long-forgotten-WWII-disaster-fund-set-1940-German-bomber-crashed-residential-Essex-street-uncovered-1-700-account.html
This incident gave Churchill the green light he needed to start bombing German civilians.

This happened on April 30th 1940 and Churchill became PM on May 10th. Within 24hrs of taking office he'd ordered a change in RAF bombing policy and launched the first RAF raids on civilian targets.

Bev
June 8th, 2013, 04:44 AM
Although we think of treason as a medieval crime — associated with gruesome punishments such as hanging, drawing and quartering or boiling in oil — the last trial for such an offence happened less than 70 years ago.

William Joyce, whose nightly ‘Germany calling’ broadcasts as Lord Haw Haw were designed to undermine national morale during World War II, was tried and executed for it in 1946.

The law of treason — formulated in 1351 — remains on the statute book specifically to protect the integrity of the state.

Its continued existence assumes that citizens have a legal duty to preserve the state that confers citizenship upon them, in return for the protection and support the state gives them.

One crime that constitutes treason is ‘levying war against the sovereign in the realm’. Another is ‘adhering to the sovereign’s enemies, giving them aid and comfort, in the realm or elsewhere’.

Furthermore, a law passed in 1848 defines the separate offence of treason felony as proceeding ‘to levy war against the sovereign in order by force or constraint to compel her to change her measures or counsels, or in order to put any force or constraint upon or in order to intimidate or overawe both houses or either House of Parliament’.

With this definition in mind, consider the words spoken by one of Drummer Lee Rigby’s assassins in Woolwich: ‘You people will never be safe. Remove your governments, they don’t care about you . . . get rid of them. Tell them to bring our troops back so all can live in peace. So leave our lands and we can all live in peace.’

On one level, this shocking attack was murder, plain and simple. But it was the murder of a man who was targeted precisely because he was a member of Her Majesty’s Armed Forces.

His killers, and those who support them, regard what they did as an act of holy war, or jihad.

This would mean that they are Britons waging war on other Britons, and on the British state. It is, quite obviously, an act of treason.


Such people are the self-appointed, and self-declared, enemies of the sovereign. They are levying war against her, hoping to force her to change her measures and counsel.

One of the alleged assailants was born British. The other is a naturalised Briton.

Thus, in recognition of the enormity of their crime and in seeking to force the government of their own country to change its policies, they should be put on trial not just for murder, but for treason.


In terms of their sentence, this would make no difference. The death penalty for treason is in abeyance under the terms of the 1998 Human Rights Act, yet it can be reinstated ‘in time of war or of imminent threat of war’.


They have committed a crime against their own country, and against a state that in various ways protects and succours them. The charges they face should reflect the peculiar offensiveness of that betrayal.

Charging the pair with treason would be a wise way of sending two important messages at a time when this country has arguably become complacently tolerant of extremists in its midst.




First, we must punish Britons as Britons, and make no allowance for their being of foreign birth or descent. By not using the treason laws against Islamic extremists, we seem to be making a special case of them, and continuing, wrongly, to imagine they are foreigners.

The fact is that they have not committed a crime against a ‘foreign power’, as occasionally they might wish to believe. They have committed a crime against their own country, and against a state that in various ways protects and succours them.

The charges they face should reflect the peculiar offensiveness of that betrayal.

It is vital, in the interests of community relations, that ethnic minorities are encouraged to integrate as completely as possible into the culture and institutions of our country.

Prosecuting these men for treason would show we take the practice of integration as seriously as its principle — and it would spike the racist guns of exploitative fanatics, such as the English Defence League.

Second, it is time the British state stopped cringing and started defending itself and its integrity as a democratic nation.

By not prosecuting for treason those who seek to overthrow it by anti-democratic and illegitimate means suggests that the authorities are ambivalent about whether Britain, and the British way of life and its values, survive at all.

It might be argued that these extremists would regard a charge of treason as a great victory, adding a dimension to their so-called martyrdom.

But we should not care less about what the extremists think. What we should worry about is that our country is willing to take the preservation of its rule of law, and its democracy, seriously.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2330622/Why-Drummer-Rigbys-killers-charged-treason.html


There's a lot wrong with this article but as for the bolded bits - wow. First he admits that one is not British by birth but then goes on to claim he is not a foreigner. What a pathetic piece of spin - the two mad Michaels do not see themselves as British but even after what they did, they still try to protect and promote this "we're all the same" shite.

As for comparing them to William Joyce - who did William Joyce kill? :confused:

Bev
June 10th, 2013, 09:08 AM
A book published in Germany this week claims to have discovered the farewell letters of Hitler's bride Eva Braun which she wrote to her friend days before committing suicide with the Fuehrer in his Berlin bunker in April 1945.

'The Women of the Nazis' by renowned Third Reich expert Anna Maria Sigmund contains the letters which she insists are genuine and written by Eva to Herta Schneider as the Red Army of Soviet Russia closed in on the city.

Mrs. Sigmund, whose books have been translated into more than 30 languages, is sure they are the genuine article: 'I have no doubt that the letters are genuine and Eva Braun has typed them, correcting her faults by hand.'

She claims the heirs of Herta Schneider, who died nearly 20 years ago, showed her the letters.

She said she copied them down before they were sold on to a documents collector.

In one she writes: 'We already hear the artillery fire from the eastern front and bombs fall from attack planes every day... I'm very happy right now to be close to him.'

Addressed to 'Dear Hertalein,' it adds: 'I am convinced that everything will turn out all right in the end and he is hopeful as he seldom is.'

He is Hitler, the man who spent the 12 years of his rule over Nazi German shielding his mistress from public view before marrying her in the bunker 40 hours before they committed suicide on April 30 1945.
Love song:


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Claims: A book published in Germany this week claims to have discovered the farewell letters of Hitler's bride Eva Braun which she wrote to her friend days before committing suicide
HQ: Adolf Hitler's command center conference room partially burned out by SS troops and stripped of evidence by invading Russians, in bunker under the Reichschancellery after Hitler's suicide

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Final days: The bunker where Hitler spent his final days with his new wife Eva Braun

This letter is dated April 19, 1945. On this day the Red Army broke through the Gemran defences on the Seelow Heights, the last great natural barrier just 45 miles east of Berlin.


Eva retreated into the bunker set in the garden of his chancellery in Berlin earlier that month, along with leading army and Nazi Party officials.

In the second letter with the greeting 'My dear Hertalein!', written on April 22, 1945, while Soviet soldiers were battling street by street and house by house through the eastern districts of Berlin she said; 'We are fighting here until the last but I'm afraid the end is threatening closer and closer.

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Revealing: Adolf Hitler asleep, next to Eva Braun - this photo was banned during Hitlers lifetime

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Death pact:Adolf Hitler with mistress Eva Braun - the pair died together in the bunker

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Denied: Hitler kept Eva's existence secret from the German people during his rule, believing that the myth that he was 'married' to the nation would serve him better

'I cannot tell friends what I personally suffer from the Fuehrer... I can not understand how everything could be so but it one cannot believe in a God! Greetings to all my friends, I'm dying how I've lived. It not difficult for me. You know that.'

Anna Maria Sigmund explained: 'Eva Braun reflects the change of mood in the Führerbunker over four days - the vague hope on the 19th and the despair of April 22.'

Twenty years ago the news magazine Stern in Germany became the laughing stock of the world when it published diaries it claimed were those of Hitler's. They were exposed within days as being the work of a master forger.
Love letters:

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Losing hope: Anna Maria Sigmund explained: 'Eva Braun reflects the change of mood in the Führerbunker over four days - the vague hope on the 19th and the despair of April 22.'

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Last day: Adolf Hitler and his wife Eva Braun pose with their pets. The dictator is holding his favourite dog Blondi on a leash. He was to have her poisoned with cyanide

Mrs. Sigmund said she is, however, convinced of the authenticity of the letters - and of the 'normality' of the relationship between Hitler and Eva. 'I think they had a pretty normal love and sex life,' she said.

She believes that her diary exists in the hands of a private collector in America and that 'it will appear one day like many long-lost documents of the Third Reich.'

Hitler kept Eva's existence secret from the German people during his rule, believing that the myth that he was 'married' to the nation would serve him better.

She was introduced only to his inner circle at his Alpine retreat in Berchtesgaden and in his Berlin apartment.

He met her when she worked as an assistant to Heinrich Hoffmann, the Munich photographer who went on to become the Fuehrer's personal picture taker.

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Traces of the dictator: War correspondents examining the arm of sofa stained with blood while one of them uses a candle to search the floor for evidence of suicide in Adolf Hitler's underground shelter

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Abandoned furniture and debris: Vandivert was the first Western photographer to gain access to Hitler¿s Führerbunker after the fall of Berlin



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2338903/Expert-discovers-farewell-letters-Eva-Braun-wrote-friend-days-suicide-Hitlers-bunker.html

"mistress" again.

Bev
June 10th, 2013, 09:10 AM
A long-lost diary belonging to a confidant of Adolf Hitler has been recovered, it was revealed today.

The 400 pages belonged to Alfred Rosenberg, a high-ranking Nazi who played a central role in the extermination of millions of Jews and others during World War Two.

A preliminary government assessment says that the diary could offer new insight into meetings Rosenberg had with Hitler and other top Nazi leaders, including Heinrich Himmler and Herman Goering.

It also includes details about the German occupation of the Soviet Union, including plans for mass killings of Jews and other Eastern Europeans.

'The documentation is of considerable importance for the study of the Nazi era, including the history of the Holocaust,' according to the assessment, prepared by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.

'A cursory content analysis indicates that the material sheds new light on a number of important issues relating to the Third Reich's policy.

'The diary will be an important source of information to historians that compliments, and in part contradicts, already known documentation.'

How the writings of Rosenberg, a Nazi Reich minister who was convicted at Nuremberg and hanged in 1946, might contradict what historians believe to be true is unclear.

Further details about the diary's contents could not be learned, and a U.S. government official stressed that the museum's analysis remains preliminary.

But the diary does include details about tensions within the German high-command - in particular, the crisis caused by the flight of Rudolf Hess to Britain in 1941, and the looting of art throughout Europe, according to the preliminary analysis.

The recovery is expected to be announced this week at a news conference in Delaware held jointly by officials from the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Department of Justice and Holocaust museum.


The diary offers a loose collection of Rosenberg's recollections from spring 1936 to winter 1944, according to the museum's analysis.

Most entries are written in Rosenberg's looping cursive, some on paper torn from a ledger book and others on the back of official Nazi stationary, the analysis said.

Rosenberg was an early and powerful Nazi ideologue, particularly on racial issues. He directed the Nazi party's foreign affairs department and edited the Nazi newspaper. Several of his memos to Hitler were cited as evidence during the post-war Nuremberg trials.


Rosenberg also directed the systematic Nazi looting of Jewish art, cultural and religious property throughout Europe. The Nazi unit created to seize such artifacts was called Task Force Reichsleiter Rosenberg.

He was convicted of crimes against humanity and was one of a dozen senior Nazi officials executed in October 1946. His diary, once held by Nuremberg prosecutors as evidence, vanished after the trial.

A Nuremberg prosecutor, Robert Kempner, was long suspected by U.S. officials of smuggling the diary back to the United States.

Born in Germany, Kempner had fled to America in the 1930s to escape the Nazis, only to return for post-war trials.

He is credited with helping reveal the existence of the Wannsee Protocol, the 1942 conference during which Nazi officials met to coordinate the genocide against the Jews, which they termed 'The Final Solution'.

Kempner cited a few Rosenberg diary excerpts in his memoir, and in 1956 a German historian published entries from 1939 and 1940. But the bulk of the diary never surfaced.


When Kempner died in 1993 at age 93, legal disputes about his papers raged for nearly a decade between his children, his former secretary, a local debris removal contractor and the Holocaust museum.

The children agreed to give their father's papers to the Holocaust museum, but when officials arrived to retrieve them from his home in 1999, they discovered that many thousands of pages were missing.

After the 1999 incident, the FBI opened a criminal investigation into the missing documents. No charges were filed in the case.


But the Holocaust museum has gone on to recover more than 150,000 documents, including a trove held by Kempner's former secretary, who by then had moved into the New York state home of an academic named Herbert Richardson.

The Rosenberg diary, however, remained missing.

Early this year, the Holocaust museum and an agent from Homeland Security Investigation tried to locate the missing diary pages. They tracked the diary to Richardson, who was living near Buffalo.

Richardson declined to comment. A government official said more details will be announced at the news conference.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2338690/Missing-diary-Hitler-confidant-sheds-new-light-Third-Reich-discovered-New-York.html


Amazing how they keep "finding" stuff.

Henry.
June 10th, 2013, 11:28 AM
Robert Kempner was a torturer a liar and forger.

The story of how he 'found' the so called Wannsee protocol is a lie peddled by his late self and court historians but I have the true story from a witness to the moment when the document is said to have been found.

If, from Rosenberg's diary, Kempner could have proved the Holocaust then that diary would not have remained hidden.

Before Kempner went back to Germany he, together with his social worker wife, Ruth, drew up studies and recommendations on how the people of Germany were to be changed through a number of sociological/psychological methods which they recommended.

Amongst other things, traditional German dress and hairstyles (plaits, braiding, etc) were outlawed and German girls (who were regarded as more pro-Hitler than boys) were to be liberalised and sexually liberated.

He was an evil bastard if there ever was one.

Here is Kempner in US uniform at Nuremberg.

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Bev
June 13th, 2013, 07:47 AM
Dambusters hero Guy Gibson wrote a prophetic letter in which he suggested the title 'The Boys Die Young' for his autobiography just six weeks before his own death, it was revealed today.

RAF ace Gibson was just 26 when he was killed in 1944 after his plane was downed by friendly fire in a night-time sortie over Germany.

A year earlier he had famously led 617 Squadron's daring mission to destroy three German dams using the revolutionary bouncing bomb, for which he received the Victoria Cross.

During an extended break from flying he wrote his autobiography. In a previously unseen letter to his publishers dated August 1 1944, he put forward a number of suggestions for the title, including The Boys Die Young.

Six weeks later Gibson and navigator Jim Warwick were killed when their twin-engined Mosquito was shot down, after the aircraft was mistaken for an enemy plane.

In his letter to central London-based publishers Pearn, Pollinger and Higham, he wrote: ‘I cannot seem to think of a good title for this book, but on a separate bit of paper enclosed I have put down a few suggestions.’

The suggested titles included Four Years Lifetime, Flak-Fun-Fear, The Boys Die Young, Enemy Coast Ahead, Eight Are Missing, Reich Wreckers and By Fire and By Water.

In the end the book was called Enemy Coast Ahead and was published posthumously in 1946. The signed letter has now sold at auction for £6,600, to a Second World War enthusiast from Europe.
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Haunting and prophetic: In a previously unseen letter to his publishers dated August 1 1944, RAF ace Guy Gibson put forward a number of suggestions for the title, including The Boys Die Young

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2340904/Letter-Dambusters-hero-Guy-Gibson-suggests-prophetic-title-book-just-weeks-death.html


I think I've spotted the reason for another boost to this thread, but I'll post it separately.

Bev
June 15th, 2013, 07:47 AM
It is a story of survival against all the odds which ranks as one of the most extraordinary in military history.

Now the little-known events surrounding the incredible service of Commander Ian Forbes, who was sunk four times and lived through a brutal prisoner of war camp, has been revealed as his collection of wartime medals go on sale.

Just like Uncle Albert from Only Fools and Horses, Cdr Forbes down with nearly every ship he served on during World War II.

He saw numerous comrades killed but managed to dodge the torpedoes, shell fire and strafing by enemy aircraft.

The officer escaped shark-infested seas and even swam away from one uninhabited desert island only to very nearly be executed by restless natives on another.

He also witnessed at close hand the Allies’ worst naval disaster of the war; the sinking of HMS Hood with the loss of 1,400 men by the German battleship Bismarck, which then turned its guns on his vessel.

Cdr Forbes was eventually captured by the Japanese after the sinking of his final ship in March 1942 and then suffered three years of hell at the hands of his savage guards.

Like hundreds of other prisoners held by the Japanese, the Royal Navy officer was regularly beaten, punished and tortured but was fortunate enough to survive.

Immediately after the war he was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross for his ‘great courage’ while serving on two of his previous ships.

He died in 1992 aged 73.

His medal group has been in the hands of a collector of gallantry medals who is now selling them at auction. They have a pre-sale estimate of £5,000.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2341632/Incredible-survival-story-WWII-seaman-went-FOUR-torpedoed-ships-survived-Japanese-Prisoner-War-camp.html

Bev
June 23rd, 2013, 06:45 AM
I suspected the holocaust liars story of yesterday ( http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=156413 ) would give us an update to this thread and I was right.

Extremely tenuous mentions:

Peter Hitchens manages to work in an invocation on the subject of the Girl Guide oath being changed:

And both Hitler Youth and Communist Pioneers had one thing very much in common – recruits were urged and even ordered to attack the Church. Pioneers jeered at priests in the street and even campaigned against Christmas trees.

Hitler Youths (whose meetings were held at the same time as church services) spied on priests and denounced them for the slightest criticism of the regime.

Hitler knew well what he was up to. To those many German adults who refused to follow him, he sneered: ‘When an opponent declares “I will not come over to your side”, I say calmly, “Your child belongs to us already .  .  . what are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing but this new community”.’

Or, as the brainwashed Hitler Youth sings in the film Cabaret, ‘tomorrow belongs to me’.

Parents who struggle to bring up children to love God and country know already how true this is, how their young come home from school stuffed with politically correct equality and diversity rubbish and ignorant of our history and tradition. Now the same process will affect the Guides.

Why should this happen? For those who think the Scouts and Guides are too patriotic or too religious, a Left-wing scout movement, the Woodcraft Folk, has long been available. I rather admire them for their independent-minded guts.

Long may the Woodcraft Folk flourish in our free, Christian country, but why should the Girl Guides copy them, and introduce this sickly little pledge of selfishness and squidgy loyalty to their ‘community’?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2346719/PETER-HITCHENS-The-sinister-reason-theyre-robbing-Guides-God.html


Hockney's fake diploma worth a fortune:


So he created his own certificate by scrawling the word ‘diploma’ beneath the college crest.

The drawing features the official crest of the college at the top of the page and the word diploma written in capital letters in pencil below.

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The Diploma: Hockney created this satirical version of the Royal College of Art's certificate after he failed to graduate

Hockney has drawn himself wearing his graduation gown hanging like a protester from the crest with the principal stood below trying to get him down.

The head is depicted with a Hitler moustache and is goose-stepping like a Nazi. There is a monster-like creature with its mouth open behind him about to gobble him up.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2346695/Fake-diploma-Hockney-protest-art-school-set-fetch-20-000-auction.html


Inside the head of Jamie Oliver:

Which living person do you most despise?

I’m more of a lover than a hater, so I don’t despise many people. However, I’ve got no time for despots and dictators. I definitely despise Hitler and Stalin. Out of living people, Kim Jong-un needs to have a word with himself. I’d say to him, ‘Chill out, mate.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-2345075/Jamie-Oliver-This-guy-horrible-Twitter-I-lived-funnily-stopped.html



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And a story from the day before that which I didn't see.

He has been honoured around the world, with squares and promenades named after him.

For decades, Giovanni Palatucci has been known as a hero for helping to save the lives of 5,000 Jews during the Holocaust.

The wartime police official's heroic exploits even led to the Italian being declared a martyr by Pope John Paul II. Israel's memorial to the Holocaust even placed him on a par with Oskar Schindler.

But, as reported by The New York Times, new evidence has now emerged which suggests that rather than helping to save the lives of Jews, he instead sent them to their graves.

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington has removed stories of his heroics from an exhibition after it emerged that he may have been a Nazi collaborator involved in sending Jews to Auschwitz.

The claims were made in a letter sent to the museum this month by the Centro Promo Levi at the Center for Jewish Studies in New York.

It said a panel of more than a dozen scholars had studied almost 700 documents and concluded that Palatucci was for six years 'a willing executor of the racial legislation and — after taking the oath to Mussolini’s Social Republic, collaborated with the Nazis.'

In the letter, the scholars said records from Germany and Italy provided no evidence that Palatucci, who died at the age of 35, helped Jews during the war.

However, researchers came across documents which instead revealed Palatucci helped the Germans to identity Jews to capture.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2345054/New-evidence-suggests-Italys-Schindler-Giovanni-Palatucci-collaborator-sending-families-Auschwitz.html

M. Gerard
June 23rd, 2013, 08:28 AM
I had an old paperback from the 1960s written by some big shot American jew who had a bit in there about how there was no problem for Jews in Italy during WWII. They were treated well, maybe even wonderfully. So he and an Italian Jew buddy claimed.

Bev
June 23rd, 2013, 09:52 AM
Another gratuitous mention.

A film about homosexual wartime codebreaker and father of modern computing Alan Turing has been attacked by his biographer.

Enigma hero Turing played a key role in breaking the German Enigma code during the Second World War while working at Bletchley Park. He is credited with saving thousands of lives during the conflict.

But a new American funded film about his life has been lambasted for exaggerating a love affair with a woman, played by Keira Knightley, and making a fictional connection to a notorious spy. Turing was a well known homosexual.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2346828/Film-WW2-codebreaker-Alan-Turing-attacked-biographer-exaggerating-love-affair-woman-gay-says-Keira-Knightley-glamorous.html

James Hawthorne
June 23rd, 2013, 11:34 AM
As for comparing them to William Joyce - who did William Joyce kill?

My thoughts exactly. William Joyce's magnum opus Twilight Over England can be read for free on Archive.org. It is a prohetic look at England, and a great read.

http://archive.org/details/TwilightOverEngland

Inside the head of Jamie Oliver

All meat and no potatoes :)

Bev
June 27th, 2013, 08:07 AM
An allied aircraft used in the Second World War for the invasion of Germany could be yours for just £4,000 on eBay.

The 1944 Taylor Craft Auster was used after D-Day when British and Allied forces were pushing back the Nazis from Holland and Germany during the closing chapters of the war.

The 70-year-old plane, with the registration TJ398, was used to fly low, spot enemy forces and give Allied forces the information to co-ordinate more devastating attacks.

But although it looks in mint condition there is one major problem - it has no engine.

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Piece of history: This 1944 Taylor Craft Auster was used after D-Day when British and Allied forces were beating back the Nazis - and now it is for sale

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Advert: The eBay page for the plane, but the £4,000 reserve has not yet been met with a day to go

Owner and military enthusiast Karl Edmondson, 52, from South Shields explained the importance of this aircraft to the war effort, which eventually saw Germany successfully defeated.

'The aircraft's top speed was about 120 miles-per-hour,' said Mr Edmondson.

'It's one of the last of its squadron, and was used to support ground troops in their push through Europe.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2349473/For-sale-ebay-One-World-War-Two-aircraft-used-defeat-Hitler--4-000-arrange-collection--dont-try-fly.html

Karl Radl
June 27th, 2013, 10:54 AM
But a new American funded film about his life has been lambasted for exaggerating a love affair with a woman, played by Keira Knightley, and making a fictional connection to a notorious spy. Turing was a well known homosexual.

So when they introduce a-historical homosexuality where there is none it is quite alright, but when they introduce heterosexuality where there is none it isn't because it is a-historical?

George Orwell had a term for that: double think.

Sometimes I think the Wail journalists are worse than the crypto-commies over at the Guardian or the Beeb.

Bev
June 27th, 2013, 01:56 PM
A Holocaust survivor has remembered his remarkable escape from the horrors of Nazi Germany aged just six after his sister overheard a conversation about special train helping Jewish youngsters to flee to Britain.

Leo Metzstein, now 81, was one of the last of 10,000 Jewish children to flee the country under the Kindertransport scheme before World War II broke out in 1939.

The scheme - which means children's transport - allowed young Jewish children safe passage to the UK, but their parents were not allowed to come with them.

Mr Metzstein was put on the train with his sister Jenny, 11, to flee the Nazis and the pair were forced to leave their mother behind.

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Lucky escape: Leo Metzstein is pictured at the Old Glasgow Transport Museum in front of a train similar to the train that took him from Holland to England as he escaped Nazi Germany before World War Two broke out

Leaving his Polish mother and oldest sister Lee, who was 16 at the time, at a Berlin train station is to this day his most painful memory.

This week, he was one of just 300 survivors who marked the 75th anniversary of the Kindertransport at a reunion in London.


He said: 'The worst thing that ever happened to me was leaving my mother at the station. She was crying and wasn’t allowed on the platform.

'I don’t remember much of that - I think I’ve wiped it from my mind. I was just crying, crying, crying. And I’m still crying.'

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Evacuated: Leo Metzstein at school in Germany aged 5 before the Jewish schools were burnt down


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Proof: Mr Metzstein's identification card which allowed him entry into the UK in July 1939

He and his sister travelled from Berlin to Holland where they got a train to England, via a ferry to Harwich.

He said: 'These were normal trains going to Holland, and each of them would have had 100 or 200 children on it. I do recall people in brown shirts coming on to the train and searching us, taking stuff off children, anything valuable.


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Close family: Mr Metzstein and his sister playing ball shortly before they fled to Scotland

'Lots of the children had little bits of gold sewn into their socks and hidden inside their shoes so they could eat when they got to England.

'Not me, I didn’t have anything with me because we were peasants.'

On July 20, 1939, they arrived at London’s Liverpool Street Station before being sent to live with families in Scotland.

Mr Metzstein said the only reason he and his family survived was because his oldest sister Lee overheard a conversation about the Kindertransport programme.

He said: 'Britain would let children in if they had a sponsor. It wasn’t publicly announced and we didn’t even have a radio. It was just pure luck.'

His brother Isi, Jenny’s twin, got out of Germany on the scheme months before.

Their mother Rachel, and Lee, were forced to stay behind - but just days before the war started they managed to get sponsors in England and Rachel got a job as a cook for a family in Dorset.

Mr Metzstein's other brother Joe was 15 when he left, but having not been on the Kindertransport scheme, Mr Metzstein doesn’t know how he got out of the country.

On arriving in Scotland, Mr Metzstein and Jenny were split up.

Jenny was sent to live in Clydebank, West Dunbartonshire, and Mr Metzstein went to live with a Quaker family named White, in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire.

Mr Metzstein said: 'It was a traumatic experience. My mum and sister came to visit me once and I hardly recognized her.

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Separated: Mr Metzstein with his siblings and mother Rachel, sitting beside family friends in their basement home in Berlin, shortly before the children were evacuated from Germany

'I was hiding behind Mrs White’s skirt because I didn’t know what to do. I couldn’t remember much German and my mother couldn’t speak English. My mother was a stranger to me and she was broken up by it.'

He didn’t get the chance to know his Polish father, Ephraim, who suffered persecution before the war.

He said: 'Hitler started his nonsense in 1932. We were a very frightened family. My father was in hiding, being hunted by gangs because he was Jewish and opposed the war.

'He died of pneumonia in 1933 when he was just 35. He was found lying dead in a field. I went over to his grave in 1988.

'It was emotional, but I dealt with it. I never knew him but it was really emotional just to think that he died such a terrible death. I don’t know what happened, but he must have suffered. That’s the only time I’ve been back to Germany. I really have no interest in going back.'

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Memories: Mr Metzstein at around four years old with his sister Jenny sitting by their father's grave in Berlin

Mr Metzstein lived in Kilmarnock for eight months before moving to a Jewish hostel with his brothers, sisters and mother.

He said: 'My mother got a job as a cook in Scotland and didn’t want me to stay with the Quakers because she was scared I’d lose my religion. But they didn’t want to let me go, despite having lots of their own children. They wanted to adopt me.
HOW THE KINDERTRANSPORT SCHEME WORKED

The first Kindertransport arrived at Harwich, England on December 2, 1938, bringing 196 children from a Berlin Jewish orphanage burned down by the Nazis on November 9 of that year.

Most of the trains left from Vienna, Berlin, Prague and other major cities (children from smaller towns travelled to meet the trains), crossed the Dutch and Belgian borders, and went on by ship to England.

The trains stopped at the start of World War II in September 1939.

One last train left on the freighter Bodegraven from Ymuiden on May 14, 1940 – the day Rotterdam was bombed.

Children who had sponsors were sent to London.

Unsponsored children waited in Dovercourt, a summer holiday camp, and other such temporary camps until families came forward to take children into their homes.

'They were so good to me. They loved me. They had a lovely garden with a swing. It was a beautiful place, not like where we lived in Berlin - we lived in a cellar because we were in hiding.'

Three and a half years later, the Metzsteins were given a five-bedroom flat in Glasgow’s West End where they were finally able to settle.

Despite the war having ended almost seven decades ago, Mr Metzstein says it is important people remember the pain and suffering caused by Hitler, and learn from it.

He said: '75 years. That’s a long time. It’s not just a wee anniversary, it’s a very important one. It’s not to be forgotten because it was a heinous crime. But we don’t learn the lessons of the past, because it still goes on in other countries.

'I think I’m over the worst of what happened. I just don’t like people saying it never happened, even after all these years.

'We, like millions of others, were living in Germany under this dreadful umbrella of fear. Fear of what was going to happen. And my poor mother had to protect us, five of us, on her own.

'None of us spoke about it, my sister Jenny always says "oh that’s in the past". Six million Jews were slaughtered. My grandparents, uncles and aunts all died in concentration camps in Poland. I hate seeing images of those times. I hate it. It makes me feel sick.'

Mr Metzstein now lives with his partner of 30 years, Margaret Lindsay in Hamilton, North Lanarkshire.

He has two children, a son and daughter, who both live in London, and putting his German past behind him says he’s 100 per cent Scottish.

He said: 'I’m Scottish. I’m absolutely Scottish, and very proud of it as well. It’s a wonderful country and the people who took me in, they saved my life. If it wasn’t for them I would be a wee packet of bones. And that wouldn’t be very nice.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2349713/Holocaust-survivor-remembers-escape-Nazi-Germany-74-years-ago-sister-overheard-conversation-train-help-children-flee-horrors.html

Bev
June 28th, 2013, 09:24 AM
Germany's foreign intelligence agency can keep secret some of its records on Adolf Eichmann, the man known as the mastermind behind the Nazi Holocaust, a court ruled today.

It vetoed a bid to open up classified files which would reveal how western spies knew where the killer of six million Jews had fled to after the Second World War.

Eichmann was the chief organiser of the Nazi extermination programme - from his office at Gestapo headquarters in Berlin he organised the railway transports that took six million Jews to their deaths.

The files are also thought to contain details about his spectacular kidnapping - perhaps even collusion between Israel and West Germany - in pulling it off.

The Federal Administrative Court ruled that the intelligence agency was within its rights to black out passages from files sought by a journalist.

Thursday's ruling followed a decision last year in which the court said the Federal Intelligence Service had to release some material it had previously kept secret.

Israeli Mossad agents abducted Eichmann in Buenos Aires in 1960 and took him to Jerusalem for trial. Eichmann - in charge of the deportations of Jews across Europe - was found guilty of war crimes, sentenced to death and hanged in 1962.

The mass-circulation Bild daily, whose reporter sued for the files' full release, has reported that West German intelligence knew as early as 1952 that he was in Argentina.



There has long been a suspicion in Germany that the post-war Adenauer government wanted to prevent his capture in case he revealed highly embarrassing details about the Nazi pasts of high-ranking figures in the West German government, judiciary and civil service.

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Distributing: Nazi leader and war criminal Adolf Eichmann (second right) smiling while German officers cut a Jewish prisoner's hair locks in the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp


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Architect: From his office at Gestapo headquarters in Berlin Eichmann organised the railway transports that took six million Jews to their deaths

In 2006, the CIA released documents showing that it contacted West German intelligence officers in 1958, claiming it had information that Eichmann 'is reported to have lived in Argentina under the alias 'Clemens' since 1952' - both his correct whereabouts and only a slightly different alias.

He actually went by the name of Ricardo Klement.

The German intelligence service said most of the files on Eichmann are 'already public' and only a small portion still needs to be blacked out. It said that the need to do so stems from laws on 'protecting state security interests' and data protection laws.

A lawyer for Bild said it reserved the right to take the case to Germany's highest court. Christoph Partsch said in a statement that Germany's interests would be 'harmed by redacting the files, not by releasing them.'

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War crimes: Adolf Eichmann pictured in the box during his trial at the Jerusalem Supreme Court in Tel Aviv

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Fled: The aging cardboard passport used by Adolf Eichmann. He fled to Argentina in 1950 under the alias as 'Ricardo Klement' with a passport issued by the Red Cross

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Insight: A page from the diary of Adolf Eichmann - he wrote the lengthy diary in prison after he was nabbed in Argentina by Israeli secret agents and brought to Israel to stand trial for crimes against humanity

The documents may also contain information about Eichmann’s abduction and possible cooperation between Israel and Germany.

Attorneys representing Germany’s intelligence service claim some of the data in the files was obtained by a foreign intelligence agency and argued that exposing it could damage ties with intelligence organizations of other nations.

Eichmann was once interviewed in Buenos Aries during his long years as a fugitive by an extreme neo-Nazi journalist.

In the interview he claimed he would go to his grave a happy man knowing that he had caused the deaths of millions of Jews.

At his trial he was famously branded the ultimate example of the 'banality of evil' as he came across as a finicky little bureaucrat with no conscious; just a man who claimed he was obeying orders from higher authorities.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2350554/German-court-blocks-release-secret-files-Nazi-Holocaust-mastermind-Adolf-Eichmann-reveal-western-spies-knew-fled-war.html

Bev
June 30th, 2013, 05:00 AM
It may not have made the final cut of Hollywood's history, but a film historian says major American film studios collaborated with Nazi Germany in the lead up to the Second World War.

From investing in German rearmament to editing out references to crimes being committed against Jews, studios including MGM, Paramount and 20th Century Fox failed to stand up to Hitler, Ben Urwand claims.

'I want to bring out a hidden episode in Hollywood history and an episode that has not been reported accurately,' the Harvard scholar said.

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Cancelled: A movie adaptation of the political novel and theater show It Can't Happen Here was dropped

Although other film historians dispute his claims, Urwand believes that Hollywood studio chiefs were happy to work with Nazi censors to change or cancel productions so that they could keep access to the German film market.

From 1932, Nazi laws meant studios could have their licenses revoked if they produced films, shown in Germany or abroad, that were considered offensive to Germans.

In his book, The Collaboration: Hollywood's Pact with Hitler, Urwand said that Hollywood was happy to bow to Hitler's demands.

'Collaboration: it's not my word or invention. I got it from materials from both sides. It's the word that's regularly used to describe their relationship,' the 35-year-old told the Guardian.

He added that the German head of MGM spoke of the 'satisfying collaboration on both sides' to the press.

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Movie critic: Historian Ben Urwand has researched the reach of Nazi influence on Hollywood before the war

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Protest: Goebbels ordered Germans to disrupt screenings of the film All Quiet on the Western Front, above

MGM also invested in German rearmament to get around currency export restrictions, the historian said.

Urwand believes that filmmakers not only wanted to continue working during the build up to the war, they also thought Hitler may win the war and wanted to safeguard the future of their businesses.

MGM, Paramount and 20th-Century Fox did not leave Germany until mid-1940. But even after Hollywood started making anti-Nazi films, it continued to erase reference to the Jews because studio chiefs, including Jewish refugees, wanted to 'avoid special pleading on their behalf'.

Urwand said studio bosses could not claim ignorance of the atrocities being carried out against the Jews because they had been forced to fire Jewish employees.



'Hollywood is collaborating and the Nazis are having the final say on several important movies that would have exposed what was going on in Germany,' he said.

He added: 'I wouldn't want what I write to be generalisable about Jews, but specific Jews in the movie business made decisions to work with Nazi leaders.'

Urwand, whose Jewish grandparents went into hiding in the war, added: 'It was [Jack] Warner who personally ordered that the word “Jew” be removed from all dialogue in the 1937 film The Life of Emile Zola"."

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Censor: Propaganda minister Goebbels talks to the Hitler Youth in Berlin in 1935

He told the New York Times Warner's studio was the first to invite Nazi officials to Los Angeles to suggest cuts.

Warner was also said to have taken a cruise on Hitler's old yacht in 1945, where he discussed post-war business opportunities, Urwand claims.

The historian found a letter from January 1938 in which a 20th Century Fox worker was asking Hitler about his views on films. The letter was signed 'Heil Hitler'.

Studios were also visited by a Nazi consultant, who would demand edits to films seen as being anti-German.

There are also instances of whole films being dropped, like the 1936 MGM movie It Can't Happen Here, which showed democracy winning over fascism.

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War years: MGM is one of the studios Urwand says collaborated with Nazi Germany

The film, based on Nobel laureate Sinclair Lewis's novel, was banned over 'fear of international politics' and the potential of boycotts abroad.

Nazi meddling in Hollywood has been well documented, even at the time. A headline in Newsweek in 1937 read: Long Arm of Hitler Extends to Hollywood Studio.

Urwand however, has looked at how much Hollywood bent to accommodate Hitler's wishes.

He claims that Nazi interference in the film industry began with the release of All Quiet on the Western Front in 1930, when Joseph Goebbels told protesters to set off stink bombs and release mice in the movie theaters.

Carl Laemmle, the Jewish German-American head of Universal, then agreed to cuts.

Hitler was said to have enjoyed films such as Mutiny on the Bounty and The Lives of a Bengal Lancer. He also liked Mr Smith Goes to Washington, because it showed democracy in a poor light.

And while he is said to have liked Laurel and Hardy, Hitler was not keen on Charlie Chaplin's portray of him in The Great Dictator, according to the Guardian.

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Screen test: Hitler was not amused at Charlie Chaplin's performance in The Great Dictator

However, rival historian Tom Doherty claims that U.S. commerce department files show that rather than working with the Nazis, MGM had been advised to invest in armaments to get around currency being blocked.

'I don't see sinister, greedy monsters. I see people trying to cope with this bizarre anomaly and negotiate in a way that made sense to them,' the author of Hollywood and HItler: 1933-1939, said.

Others have highlighted how the same studio heads who complied with Nazi censorship also paid for a spy ring.

'The moguls who have been castigated for putting business ahead of Jewish identity and loyalty were in fact working behind the scenes to help Jews,' Steven Ross, of the University of Southern California, said.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2351776/How-Hollywood-bowed-Hitler-Film-studios-showed-Nazi-Germany-positive-light-historian-claims.html

Bev
July 12th, 2013, 08:12 AM
A five-year-old Palestinian boy was filmed being dragged away for throwing a stone at Israeli soldiers who then blindfolded and handcuffed his father and marched them both in full public view to a police checkpost.

Israeli human rights group B'Tselem said seven soldiers and an officer detained the boy, named as Wadi' Maswadeh, in Hebron for two hours before handing him over to the Palestinian Police.

Video of the incident shows Wadi' in floods of tears as he is dragged into an army vehicle before being taken to his home.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2361760/Five-year-old-Palestinian-boy-dragged-away-Israeli-soldiers-bind-blindfold-father-child-threw-stones-them.html

No, I know this isn't related to the thread but it didn't seem worth a thread of its own and it serves as a perfect example of how the DM practices barrel-scraping damage control:
Secret magazines written by British soldiers held in a Japanese prisoner of war camp have been discovered after more then 60 years hidden in an attic.

The 'Jungle Journals' were produced by inmates to lift fellow soldiers’ morale as they struggled to survive the horrific conditions in the labour camps during the Second World War.

Anyone caught reading them faced severe punishments from the prison guards on the island of Java in the Dutch East Indies.

The handmade journals, filled with jokes, colour drawings and short stories, were the idea of survivor Lieutenant Ronald Williams, who took them home after the Japanese surrendered in 1945.

A bomber pilot who starred in a James Bond movie has vented his anger after he was finally awarded a campaign medal - 68 years after the Second World War ended.

Wing Commander Ken Wallis, 97, risked his life as he flew his Wellington war-plane over Germany on 28 missions during the conflict.

The patriotic young hero and brilliant flyer was so determined to fight for his country in its most dangerous hour that he even cheated in an eye test to get into the RAF.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2360189/Wellington-bomber-pilot-Ken-Wallis-starred-Bond-movie-finally-awarded-campaign-medal.html


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Bev
July 12th, 2013, 08:58 AM
....and another.


The Nazis dubbed them the 'Night Witches', on account of the way they would cut their aircraft engines to silently swoop in before dropping their bombs.

The 'whooshing' noise they made as they passed overhead was said to resemble a witch's broomstick.

In 1941, as the Soviet Union struggled desperately to stop the German advance, Stalin ordered the formation of three all-women air force units.

Among the first volunteers was 19-year-old Nadezhda Popova, who would go on to become one of the most celebrated heroes of the Soviet Union.

Popova, who died this week at the age of 91, flew 852 missions against the Germans in rickety wooden biplanes and was shot down several times,

Her unit, the 588th Night Bomber Regiment was equipped with obsolete two-seater Polikarpov PO-2 biplanes.

The aircraft, made of wood and fabric, were slow and cumbersome. They had no radio, no guns and no parachutes.

To navigate, the pilots used a stopwatch and a map. They were too vulnerable to fly during the day so only flew night missions.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2360652/The-Night-Witch-carried-hundreds-bombing-raids-Russia-s-elite-women-World-War-Two-air-squad.html

Bev
July 14th, 2013, 09:14 AM
Photographs that Adolph Hitler wanted destroyed show the half-crazed Fuhrer rehearsing his persuasive hate filled speeches.

Published in photographer Heinrich Hoffman's memoir, the behind the scenes photos show the dictator rehearsing emphatic gestures while listening to recordings of his speeches.

Hoffman willfully ignored Hitler's wishes and the photographs managed to survive through the years in various different archives.

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Newly released photographs taken in 1925 by photographer Heinrich Hoffman show Adolph Hilter rehearsing his speeches

The photographs, which were reportedly taken in 1925 according The Huffington Post, were taken at Hitler's request.



The future dictator wanted to see himself in action so that he could refine his orating technique.

The pictures show Hitler wildly gesticulating and pointing toward imagined crowds.

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Hitler gesticulates towards an imaginary crowd while listening to a playback recording of his own speech

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Hitler emphatically gesticulates while rehearsing a public speech. He would late become known for his strong oratory skills

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After Hitler reviewed the photos, taken in 1925, he asked Hoffman to destroy the negatives. However, Hoffman ignored his requested and published them in his memoir

However, after Hitler saw the pictures he asked that Hoffman destroy the negatives, not wanting them to be seen by the public.

Hoffman ignored the request and later published the pictures in his memoir, Hitler Was My Friend, which came out in 1955.

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With an intense gaze, Hitler makes a point to an imaginary audience as he rehearses a speech

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Hoffman's photos were taken just after Hitler's release from Landsberg Prison, during which time he wrote Mein Kampf

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Hitler strikes a pose as a rehearses his rhetoric for the camera

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Worked up by a recording of his own speech Hitler motions with his whole body as he makes a seemingly vehement point

After their initial publication the photos were stored in Hoffmann's studio until his arrest at the end of the war, whereupon they disappeared into various archives.

The images give a rare glimpse into genocidal ruler's inner workings, exhibiting how he meticulously rehearsed his indoctrinating speeches long before he became the Furer.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2362848/Images-Hitler-dictator-rehearsing-public-speeches-start-political-career.html

Bev
July 31st, 2013, 12:28 PM
he space inside the soaring, 7ft-thick walls of Colditz was reserved by the Nazis for those 'incorrigible' Allied prisoners intent on escape.

Squadron Leader Peter Tunstall, who has died at the age of 94, fell squarely into this category, having been court martialled no less than five times for his efforts to rile guards - even pelting his Nazi captors with water bombs.

He was rewarded for his antics with a total 415 days in solitary confinement during his stint at the notorious prison - a record that saw him dubbed the 'cooler king' - but the punishments failed to deter Tunstall from making five audacious attempts to escape during his time as a PoW.

Although Tunstall had not yet managed to break free from the forbidding former mental hospital himself before it was liberated, he played a crucial role in aiding the getaways of other inmates.

His infamous 'shows', staged to distract guards, bought prisoners valuable time to make their escape from the prison on a rocky outcrop above the River Mulde, according to the Independent.

Tunstall also managed to smuggle key coded messages, which he scribbled on tracing paper and hid in letters and photos, to the outside.

Having been told when he was captured in 1940 by a German officer that his war was over, Tunstall fired back the retort: 'It damn well is not.'

His determination to make life difficult for his captors meant no other prisoner spent as much time in solitary or faced as many tribunals.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2381795/Peter-Tunstall-Colditz-cooler-king-spent-415-days-solitary-confinement-battled-Nazi-guards-water-bombs-dies-aged-94.html


It went on sale for $3million last week but failed to get a bid even close to that - or any bid at all.

The famed Schindler's List closed on eBay yesterday after being up for sale since July 25, when experts said even then the asking price was too expensive.

Oskar Schindler, a factory owner and member of the Nazi Party, saved more than 1,000 Jews during the Holocaust by employing them in his factory.

A list of all of the Jews made its way into historical documents and was a best selling book before being turned into a Steven Spielberg film.

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Remarkable: Schindler's list contains the names of about 800 Jews that were saved by German businessman Oskar Schindler -- Scroll down for the complete list
The document, which is being sold by a private owner in Israel and was only available for local pick up, is the only copy of the list ever to be sold on the open market.

The list is dated April 8, 1945, and has 801 male names on it.

WHAT IS SCHINDLER'S LIST?

The list, which was originally known as 'Schindlerjuden,' contains the names of about 800 Jews Oscar Schindler tried to protect from the Holocaust.
It began as Schindler's attempt to keep his factories running during the war, he even considered trying to make money from saving the lives of his Jewish employees.
It is believed to have eventually saved the lives of anywhere from 1,000 - 1,200 Jews from the Nazi regime during World War II. The known lists that exist are incomplete.
It led to Schindler being the only member of the Nazi Party to be buried in Israel, on Mount Zion.

Sources: University of Pennsylvania, U.S. Mem. Holocaust Museum

David Crowe, a Holocaust historian and the author of the book, 'Oskar Schindler: The Untold Account of His Life, Wartime Activities, and the True Story Behind the List,' said the date of the list may be one reason it did not receive any bids.

The film was based on the first two lists ever created, which were from the fall of 1944 - which were called 'The Lists of Life'.

Any lists that came after, including this one, were merely updates of the original, he said.

Crowe said any update of that would not be worth even close to $3million.

'When they say "Schindler's list", it's almost like they are using the romance of the original list and the magic of that to sell what was prepared at the end of the war. This list is far less valuable.

'This is not fraudulent,' he said of the effort to place the list on eBay. 'They certainly do tell the end of the the story, but they don't illuminate the beginning, so they are less important.'

Amid rumors the list wasn't the original, Crowe said even if it was, it still wouldn't be worth $3million.

Seller Eric Gazin, the president of Gazin auctions, said he has no plans to reduce the price.

'The value and price of noted historical documents has been rising the past two years as investors realize their significance and investment value,' he said. 'It's a fair price given its history and its provenance.'


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For sale: Collectors have put an original copy of 'Schindler's List' up for auction on eBay



Calling the document ‘a piece of history that has inspired many', the listing by auction promoters Gazin and Gary Zimet guaranteed the list’s authenticity – it was sourced from Itzhak Stern, Schindler’s accountant played by Ben Kingsley in the award-winning film.

The document can only be collected in Israel 'for security' and to give the winning bidder the opportunity to personally inspect it, Garvin told MailOnline

Gazin and Zimet are collectors from California with a history of headline-grabbing auctions through their company Auction Cause. They were hoping for the document to sell for millions beyond the reserve price.

The two chose ‘the world’s marketplace’ because there are billionaires and wealthy celebrities using the site, Garvin told the New York Post.

‘Using eBay offers the widest audience and the most opportunity to bid, as opposed to a traditional auction house,’ Garvin told MailOnline before the item went on sale.

The other three known copies are in museums – with two in Israel and one in the United States Holocaust Museum – and that is where many believe this copy should also go.

Several Twitter users expressed unhappiness with the auction. One person even tweeted ‘if you’re still wondering about the world you live in...Schindler’s list is being sold on e-bay [SIC]. Say no more.’




Explaining that he understands why people believe the list belongs on display in a museum instead of for sale online, Garvin said that many people with collections of ‘fantastic items’ choose to share those items with a greater audience.

‘It would not surprise me if it ends up in a museum… I think that would be fantastic,’ said Garvin.

The list originated from German Industrialist Oskar Schindler. During World War II, Schindler made it his mission to keep his Jewish employees from oppression and death at the hands of the Nazis.



Over six million Jews were persecuted, tortured and murdered at concentration camps across Europe as part of the 'Final Solution' by the Nazi regime by the end of World War II, according to the United States Memorial Holocaust Museum, with victims included Gypsies, the disabled, Poles, Russians and others. The dead ranged in age from babies to the elderly.

His efforts were adopted into both a book and movie, the latter of which starred Liam Neeson and won seven Academy Awards, including best picture and a best actor nod for Neeson.

Previous auctions staged by Auction Cause include a date with Scarlett Johansson – the $19 million reserve was not met, a selling of the Harry Reid/Rush Limbaugh letter which fetched $2.1 million and a $200,000 David and Victoria Beckham cocktail reception.



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john-connor
August 4th, 2013, 08:24 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2384050/Rare-colour-pictures-Hitler-personal-photographer-Hugo-Jaeger.html Hitler in colour: Rare pictures of the Führer shot by personal photographer who buried them after WWII to hide his link to the Nazis
Hugo Jaeger was one of Nazi leader Adolf Hitler's personal photographers
Shot thousands of images between 1936 and 1945 - most in colour
By KERRY MCDERMOTT


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joefrombradford
August 20th, 2013, 03:13 AM
The Nazi Hunter: Remarkable story of the Jewish refugee responsible for tracking down the Auschwitz commandant who slaughtered 3million people


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2397354/The-Nazi-Hunter-Story-Jewish-refugee-Hanns-Alexander-caught-Auschwitz-commandant.html

Bev
August 22nd, 2013, 07:57 AM
The last-standing barrack of a Nazi concentration camp in the Netherlands which was later used to house thousands of Indonesian Moluccan exiles is being restored.

A total of 749 people died at the camp during the Second World War when it was the only official SS concentration camp in western Europe outside of Germany.

After the war the site was used to house Dutch collaborators and German evacuees before the barracks were turned into accommodation for thousands of Dutch Moluccans, from the Maluku Islands, an archipelago with Indonesia.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2399537/Restoration-underway-Nazi-concentration-camp-Netherlands-later-used-house-thousands-Moluccan-exiles.html

dunotra
August 22nd, 2013, 08:28 AM
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2399537/Restoration-underway-Nazi-concentration-camp-Netherlands-later-used-house-thousands-Moluccan-exiles.html

We are short of prison's here in The Netherlands.

Just getting ready for the Roma invasion at the end of the year.

dunotra
August 22nd, 2013, 08:41 AM
We are short of prison's here in The Netherlands.

Just getting ready for the Roma invasion at the end of the year.

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That photo reminds me of North Sea camp near Boston but our hair was shorter :rofl

Henry.
August 22nd, 2013, 09:11 AM
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That photo reminds me of North Sea camp near Boston but our hair was shorter :rofl
Typical Nazi brutality...Forcing inmates to have sex with wheelbarrows....

Bev
August 25th, 2013, 10:24 AM
Commemorating the atrocities committed by the Nazis is usually a sombre duty, not a cause for joy.

But at the Miss Holocaust Survivor Beauty Pageant, the emphasis is firmly on celebrating the remarkable women who survived the genocide of the Jews.

The 16 contestants at the event in Israel, all aged over 70, showed off their mature beauty as they competed to take the crown as the nation's most striking senior citizen.
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Showtime: Koka Salmon, 79, gets ready to go on stage during the Miss Holocaust Survivor Beauty Pageant

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2400967/Backstage-Holocaust-survivor-beauty-pageant-Israel-hosts-beauty-contest-16-women-survived-Nazi-genocide.html

Bev
August 25th, 2013, 10:30 AM
I see a dummy with a thumbie is butthurt over me documenting the DM's WWII fetish. :rofl

Henry.
August 25th, 2013, 10:52 AM
I see a dummy with a thumbie is butthurt over me documenting the DM's WWII fetish. :rofl
Yeah they don't like to see David Irving supporting the holohoax ether. That really brings on the red thumb!

They pretend Irving is speaking in code when he's telling the world hundreds of thousands were murdered at Treblinka....

Clever, eh.....;)

Bev
August 25th, 2013, 11:58 AM
Yeah they don't like to see David Irving supporting the holohoax ether. That really brings on the red thumb!

They pretend Irving is speaking in code when he's telling the world hundreds of thousands were murdered at Treblinka....

Clever, eh.....;)

It always makes me laugh to see how easily some people take th-umbrage and commit thumb-rage over it.

Bev
August 26th, 2013, 11:46 AM
The German gunner who fired the first shots of the Second World War claims the conflict began 55 minutes than Hitler claimed.

Hermann Gerdau, now 100 years old, was a gunner aboard the Nazi battleship Schleswig Holstein whose big guns opened up on Poland in the early hours of September 1 1939.

Speaking for the first time of his part in the conflict he said: 'Hitler told the world that the bombardment began at 5.45am, but this was untrue.

'It began at 4.50am. I know because I was there.'

It was the first of the many thousands of lies Hitler would tell the German people throughout the conflict.

Gerdau, now a resident of an OAP home near Hamburg, was 26 on the morning the world changed forever.

He said: 'We knew nothing of Hitler's war plans, but immediately before the invasion of Poland, strange things happened.

'At night we took 225 marine infantry, machine guns and ammunition on board a feeder ship and early the next morning came the order to open fire on the Westerplatte Polish naval base that was only 500 metres away from us.

'The call to battle stations came and I jumped out of the hammock and ran to my post. We fired the first shots of the war. We were so close it was impossible to miss.

'I was bound up in the euphoria of victory. We were all seized by the Nazi regime. But I was not enthusiastic about the war in general. And soon there was only horror.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2402032/WWII-started-55-minutes-earlier-Hitler-claimed-Extraordinary-confession-Nazi-battleship-gunner-fired-shots-Polish-Naval-base.html

Bev
August 26th, 2013, 11:47 AM
Adolf Hitler was a drug-abusing hypochondriac with deformed genitals who regularly consumed a cocktail of amphetamines, bull semen, rat poison and morphine when he sent millions of innocent people to their death.

That's according to a new explosive TV documentary based on recently-discovered records and letters from the Nazi leader's obese personal physician, Dr Theodore Morell.

In a desperate attempt to show his followers he was the epitome of male virility, the 5ft 8ins German leader downed more than 80 different drugs each day - a shocking habit that some psychiatrists and historians believe turned an egomaniac into a sadistic mass murderer.

According to National Geographic's Nazi Underworld - Hitler's Drug Use Revealed, psychiatrist Professor Nassir Ghaemi claims Hitler's drug abuse exacerbated his manic depression, reducing him to a feeble, trembling figure.

'It’s not whether Hitler was an amphetamine addict or not – it’s that Hitler had bipolar disorder and amphetamines made it worse,' he said.

'That is the issue. That has never been described before and that would explain a lot why Hitler changed in the late 1930s and the 1940s.'

According to the Irish Mirror, a series of letters and medical reports on Hitler commissioned by the U.S. military after the war were released in America, among them interviews with the Fuhrer's six doctors including Morell.

The 47-page classified report stated Hitler had chronic eczema, persistent stomach cramps and appalling flatulence.

No-one was able to cure the leader's afflictions - until Morell prescribed live bacteria which eased the cramps.

A delighted Hitler made Morell his personal physician for nine years, even though his aides called the 'Reichsmaster of injections' a 'quack', 'phony' and 'charlatan'.

The reports show Hitler snorted powdered cocaine to 'clear his sinuses and soothe his throat' and used eye-drops infused with 10 per cent cocaine.

His dosage was lowered when he began to 'crave' the illicit drug.


In his drug cabinet, the controversial doctor kept gun-cleaning oil which had been banned from human consumption and flatulence pills made from rat poison.

Morell's methods were so controversial, other doctors believed he was a 'double agent' trying to poison Hitler who was experiencing 'rapid double cycling'.

'Some of his American interrogators wondered whether he was a double agent, trying to make Hitler so dysfunctional that he couldn’t win, couldn’t achieve what he wanted,' Ghaemi said.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2401242/Hitler-drug-addict-Fuhrer-used-cocktail-drugs-make-Nazi-superman.html

Meanwhile, the story entitled "Peace talks between Israel and Palestinians called off after Israeli soldiers killed three protesters in the West Bank " is further down the page than the "news" that Hitler had the farts.

john-connor
September 6th, 2013, 09:59 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2413893/Hitlers-bodyguard-men-Fuhrer-dead-bunker-dies-aged-96.html Hitler's bodyguard who was one of the first men to find the Fuhrer dead in his bunker dies aged 96

Died of a short illness, The Associated Press have reported
Bodyguard saw Hitler after he had killed himself in Führerbunker, Berlin
Lived in Berlin, only two miles away from the bunker, until his death on Thursday
Was depicted in several Second World War films including Downfall in 2005


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Nate Richards
September 26th, 2013, 03:01 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2432620/Hitlers-Furies-The-Nazi-women-bit-evil-men.html?ICO=most_read_module

They got me to laugh out loud as usual. Picture the crazed gestapo housewife running down little jews with her nazi death pram.

Bev
November 2nd, 2013, 11:13 AM
The luxury life of Adolf Hitler is laid bare in a new biography that destroys the myth of his frugal 'man of the people' facade that he constructed to bind the German masses to his will.

Acclaimed historian Volker Ullrich's 1,100-page work entitled simply Adolf Hitler accessed archives across Germany to find the paper trail testifying to his love of fine clothes, fast cars and expensive hotels.

'The bills are all there,' said Ullrich. 'He was living large from the earliest days.'


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Extravagant: One bill from December 1931 - 15 months before he came to power - is from master tailor Michael Werner of Munich for clothes for which he paid in Reichsmarks the equivalent of £4,750 at today's rates

At first, Hitler was financed by Nazi party contributors.

Later, when the royalties started rolling in from the sales of his maniacal autobiography Mein Kampf and the payments from the German post office for his image on all stamps, he became fantastically rich.

One bill from December 1931 - 15 months before he came to power - is from master tailor Michael Werner of Munich for clothes including a suit made of 'the finest materials lined with silk', trousers, jackets, a lounge suit and two white vests for which he paid in Reichsmarks the equivalent of £4,750 at today's rates.


In the Federal Archive of the German government in Berlin-Lichterfelde, the repository of numerous files of the Nazi era, Ullrich discovered a pile of bills totalling tens of thousands of pounds at today's conversion rates for suites, champagne and expensive meals for Hitler and his cronies at the elite Rheinhotel Dreesen at Bonn.

One invoice from March 10, 1932 - again at a time before the money started rolling in from his royalties - party foot-soldiers were subsidising the high living with a bill presented to Hitler for £5,000 for a three-night stay.

The bill was addressed to 'Sir Mr Adolf Hitler.' He was not by then the Fuehrer.




'I discovered other bills for cars, garages, car accessories, the outlays for Hitler's residences and the house rented by Hitler's guards on the Obersalzberg, near to the Berghof country home,' said the author, whose work has been acclaimed for shining a light on the more human aspects of a most inhuman dictator.

'This was all completely contrary to the image of the humble "man of the people" formulated by his propaganda.'

The future Fuehrer lived in abject poverty as a young man before the war in the streets and doss-houses of the Austrian capital Vienna.

And it seems that when he had access to power and money, he was determined never to repeat the experience.




The archives also showed that, along with Hitler's love of money for the trappings it bought him, he liked its power to bend politicians to his will.

He lavished gifts on both friends and rivals - often fantastic jewellery or rare paintings - bought with the £6million he earned from the sales of Mein Kampf.

But Hitler, who paid no income tax during his years in power, made little distinction between private and state funds.

His 30-car fleet of powerful Mercedes was paid for by the man in the street while he bought a house for his mistress - and latterly wife - Eva Braun with cash from his stamp portrait dues.

He also owned the copyright on all official photos of himself, mandatory for every home, office and workplace in Germany, and therefore the source of another huge windfall.

And in his lifetime, industrialists gave him cash gifts of well over £2billion as a thank-you for the war industry work which in turn made them rich.

'Hitler loved money for the things it could buy him,' added the author.

At war's end, the material wealth of Hitler passed in its entirety to the state of Bavaria where his movement was born.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2483439/How-Hitler-spent-thousands-fine-clothes-champagne-suites-pretending-man-people.html

Bev
November 5th, 2013, 11:01 AM
First pictures of Nazi art hoarder's £1billion collection as investigators reveal it includes previously unknown works by Chagall and Matisse

Unknown works by Chagall, Matisse and Dix in Cornelius Gurlitt's hoard
He did not have a bank account, pension or insurance
He lived off the collection of 1,500 works, selling them when he needed to
Collector Hildebrandt Gurlitt ordered for them to be destroyed in 1945
Experts claim most were acquired from Jews in exchange for escape




The £1billion hoard of paintings found in the squalid Munich flat of Cornelius Gurlitt contained previously unknown works by Matisse, Marc Chagall and Otto Dix, investigators have revealed.

Customs officials found an astonishing treasure trove of modernist paintings at the residence of Gurlitt, 80, and promptly confiscated it.

The 1,500 works - some of them priceless - were said to have been lost to the flames when Allied aircraft bombed Dresden in 1945.



Siegfried Klöble, the head of the Munich customs office, revealed in a press conference on Tuesday that the previously unknown works included a self-portrait of Dix, thought to date to 1919, a portrait of a woman by Matisse and an allegorical work by Chagall.

The collection also contained works by Picasso, Auguste Renoir, Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, Max Beckmann, Max Liebermann, Ernst Ludwig Kirchner and Carl Spitzweg, he added.

Klöble stated that it was highly unlikely that Gurlitt was hiding any other paintings.

Gurlitt vanished after the paintings were confiscated, with police suspecting that he has access to almost unlimited funds.

As well as selling The Lion Tamer, he sold off many of the paintings - works that wouldn't attract headlines - before the intervention of German customs officials.


Gurlitt was a man of mystery in many aspects of his life.

The son of art dealer Hildebrand Gurlitt, he did not have an official bank account, pension or insurance - he simply lived off the extensive collection, selling them when his money dipped.



He never held down a job and was not registered with the authorities - mandatory in Germany - and was not known to the tax authorities or social services.


The paintings thought to have been destroyed in the war were found hidden behind tins of rotting food in a shabby flat.

They had been taken from their owners, many of them Jewish, by the Nazis, who regarded the Impressionist, Cubist and Modernist pieces as ‘degenerate’.

The story of their recovery begins one evening in September 2010 aboard a German Intercity Express train from Zurich in Switzerland to Munich.

Customs officials were carrying out a routine check on passengers – many wealthy Germans deposit money illegally in Switzerland to evade high tax rates at home – and asked for the papers of a white-haired man.

He proffered an Austrian passport in the name of Rolf Nikolaus Cornelius Gurlitt, born December 28, 1933, in Hamburg - currently residing in Salzburg.

‘He appeared nervous,’ said customs officials.

He said he had travelled to Switzerland for ‘business’ at the Galerie Kornfeld in Bern.

He then he pulled out an envelope with 9,000 euros in 500 euro notes inside – 1,000 euros under the legal limit which must declared to officials when crossing borders in Europe.

Gurlitt was allowed to go on his way, but the officials remained suspicious.

Extensive checks soon disclosed that he did not live in Salzburg but in Schwabing, and he was not registered with the authorities.

‘He was a man who didn’t exist,’ one official told Germany’s Focus magazine, which broke the story.


THE GREAT NAZI ART ROBBERY: HOW JEWISH DEALERS WERE BRIBED TO SACRIFICE PRECIOUS PAINTINGS FOR A SAFE ESCAPE

Over the six years of the Second World War, the Nazis looted Europe for all it was worth.

As they raided homes, SS soldiers would take valuables from the walls and bring them proudly back to their leader.

But in their hunt for priceless art amid the massacre of Jews, a new business began: bribing Jewish dealers.

Many of Europe's finest artworks were in the hands of Jewish brokers who had been making a living out of art consultancy for decades.

By 1941, a trend started where people would force these dealers, fearing for their life, to give up classics by Matisse, Picasso, and Renoir for little to no money.

The bribers were often members of the regime with connections to transport links.

In exchange they would be offered safe passage to countries such as Britain - knowing senior Nazis would pay excessive amounts for their new purchase.

Investigators applied for a warrant to search behind the barred windows of his £600-a-month rented flat, eventually entering it in spring 2011.

There they discovered a mountain of tinned and bottled food, long past its sell-by date. Behind the decomposing food were found the missing artworks.

The pensioner is the son of Hildebrandt Gurlitt, the art dealer who in the run-up to the Second World War had been in charge of gathering up the so-called degenerate art for the Nazis.

Hildebrandt had bought for a pittance many of the paintings he seized, and they had passed to his son on his death. Cornelius then quietly sold a few, one at a time, to give him money to live on.

Investigators are working to reunite them with the families of their rightful owners.

One owner is already known.

A portrait of a woman by the French master Matisse belonged to the Jewish connoisseur Paul Rosenberg.

Rosenberg had to abandon his collection as he fled Paris when France fell to the Nazis in 1940.

His granddaughter Anne Sinclair, wife of disgraced former IMF bank chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, has been fighting for decades for the return of her grandfather’s pictures, but is said to have not known of the existence of this painting.


In the words of a spokesman for German customs: ‘This is a sensational find. A true treasure trove. It is an incredible story.’

A customs official said: ‘We went into the apartment expecting to find a few thousand undeclared euros, maybe a black bank account.

‘But we were stunned with what we found. From floor to ceiling, from bedroom to bathroom, were piles and piles of old food in tins and old noodles, much of it from the 1980s.

And behind it all these pictures. They are worth over a billion euros [over £850million] we are told, but the real worth is inestimable. They are treasures.’

Treasures they may be, but the provincial-minded Nazi hierarchy despised them and termed them ‘degenerate’.

Hitler liked only romantic paintings that idolised his vision of German supermen. He and his propaganda minister Josef Goebbels ordered the seizure of some 20,000 ‘degenerate’ works by artists including Matisse, Picasso, Dali and Van Gogh.

Many were displayed in the Degenerate Art exhibition which opened in Munich in 1937. Tens of thousands of Germans queued up to see exactly what their leaders were telling them not to like.
But in parallel to this exhibition was a behind-the-scenes fleecing of those who owned the paintings, many of them Jewish, who were forced to sell them at rock-bottom prices to art dealers with connections to the Nazi hierarchy in order to purchase expensive exit visas to flee Germany for safer countries.



THE 'DEGENERATE ART' EXHIBITION: HITLER'S LESSON IN TASTE

Hitler invested thousands in collecting classical art - his favourite.

But the Gurlitt collection comprises at least 300 pieces Hitler hated - artworks that he confiscated from across German exhibitions.

With the help of painter and politician Adolf Ziegler, he displayed the pieces - all modern - as a lesson in what not to like.

The pieces were exhibited for a month in July 1937 in Munich under the title 'Entartete Kunst' (degenerate art).

The day of the launch, Hitler declared 'merciless war' on cultural disintegration.

After the exhibition they were meant to be destroyed.

According to Focus magazine, between 200 and 300 of the Gurlitt collection appeared in the Degenerate Art exhibition and the rest were bought at shamefully low prices from Jews who needed to get out of the country as fast as they could.

Gurlitt is a name well-known to art aficionados, a family which once catered to the elite of the German art collecting scene.

Hildebrandt Gurlitt, Cornelius’s father, was among the most respected art historians in Germany by the time the Nazis came to power in 1933.

He was a champion of modern art – and therefore, initially, hated by the Nazis. He was relieved of museum directorial posts by the regime and persecuted because he had a Jewish grandmother.

But the Nazis needed him because no one had the contacts within Nazi Germany – and outside – that he had with collectors.



He was tasked by Goebbels personally to ‘versilbern’ – turn into cash – the degenerate artworks for the regime.

He did this with some zeal and was rewarded by being offered the future post of director of the super-museum of art that Hitler planned to open in Linz, Austria, where he had once lived.

Hildebrandt Gurlitt acquired ‘hundreds and hundreds’ of artworks at knock-down prices, according to Focus. After the Degenerate Art exhibition, he took control of some of the exhibits too.

At the end of the war Gurlitt claimed that the firebombing of Dresden in February 1945 had destroyed his collection at the family home in Kaitzer Strasse.

His Jewish roots and his initial disfavour with Nazism made him, in the eyes of the Allies, a victim not a persecutor and he was never charged with fleecing Jews out of selling their collections for pennies. He carried on dealing in art until 1956 when he was killed in a car crash.

The recovered works are now in a security wing of Bavarian customs near Munich, and an art historian is leading a team of experts trying to find the descendants of the rightful owners.

Meanwhile, investigators are said to have found a bank savings book belonging to Cornelius Gurlitt with hundreds of thousands of euros on deposit in it – the fruits of his sale of the artwork over the years. He faces jail for tax evasion and money laundering.

Ironically, however, if the rightful heirs to the paintings are not found – and because his father bought the bulk of them with family money, even at shamefully low prices – then many of them could be returned to Cornelius.

An awesome find - now for the lawsuits

BY ROBIN SIMON, DAILY MAIL ART CRITIC

This is the most significant art find ever to have emerged from the chaos of the Second World War. It is also a big step towards answering the art world’s most nagging question: Where did all the pictures go?

We know that after the defeat of the Nazis in 1945, the Russians, Americans and British all had sticky fingers when it came to seizing works of art. Individuals and governments alike connived in the removal of numerous pieces from post-war Germany.

But opportunist looting never explained the disappearance of a mass of masterpieces from the so-called ‘Degenerate’ exhibition, let alone the 1,000-plus other pictures acquired – often at knock-down prices from those desperate to escape Nazi persecution – by a collector named Hildebrandt Gurlitt.

Now we know: They were mouldering behind a pile of food in a Munich flat.

The ‘Degenerate’ show was put on by Hitler’s acolytes in 1937 to display the kind of modern art which they insisted showed ‘decadence’ and ‘racial impurity’.

The works in the exhibition had been ripped from the walls of museums across Germany: Now that so many have been recovered, there will surely be a feeding frenzy on an unprecedented scale as the heirs of the original owners, real or imaginary, call in lawyers in an attempt to recover such spectacular treasures.

Who can blame them? A single Picasso can be worth up to £60million. A Matisse £30million.
The list of German painters alone reads like the roll-call of a lost generation.

Precisely because the Nazis condemned their work as degenerate, surviving paintings by such hallowed names as Kirchner, Liebermann and Nolde are rare today, and correspondingly expensive.

Certainly, German collectors will be falling over themselves to buy – if these works are ever put up for sale.

Restitution is already a controversial issue in the art world as families deprived of their inheritance seek redress from private collectors and public museums all over the world, whose walls are lined with great paintings acquired in the most dubious of circumstances.

No international exhibition now takes place without elaborate legal agreements, in case any legal heirs turn up to spoil the show, demanding the return of treasures looted during the war.

The current exhibition at Tate Modern of works by Paul Klee, one of the stars of this secret collection in Munich, will be no exception.

Oils by Klee – who was dismissed by the Nazis from his post at the Düsseldorf Academy in 1933 – were fetching £5million as long ago as the late 1980s. Even a tiny watercolour by Klee went for £1million at auction in 2008.

Today, you would have to be very rich indeed to get a sniff of one. Yet claimants to the Klees in Gurlitt’s collection will be hoping to get one for free.

Most of the paintings involved in this find will have been recorded in catalogues and sale records. Most original owners will be identifiable.

But there will be relatively few descendants around to come forward and plead their case.

And if all the heirs fail to materialise, Cornelius Gurlitt, in a bitter twist of fate, could be legally entitled to keep some these paintings - once denigrated as abominations by Hitler, but now declared almost beyond price.



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andy
April 14th, 2014, 04:20 PM
Still a Superstar after all these years April's cover of the BBC History magazine

http://www.historyextra.com/issue/april-2014

andy
April 19th, 2014, 04:46 PM
Still a Superstar after all these years April's cover of the BBC History magazine

http://www.historyextra.com/issue/april-2014

Further in yet another manifestation of that "Fatal Attraction" for the Fuhrer that system jews cannot resist we have a broadcast on BBC 4 of Downfall the only post war film to depict Hitler subjectively on Hitler eve to celebrate the 125th Anniversary of his birth

andy
April 19th, 2014, 06:33 PM
Portraits of the man himself a Happy Hitler to one and all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT-EmFaDCK8&feature=youtu.be

andy
April 19th, 2014, 07:16 PM
http://www.japan-press.co.jp/modules/news/index.php?id=6923


Tamogami supporter adores Hitler



February 14, 2014

Militarist Tamogami Toshio, among the list of supporters he had in the Tokyo metropolitan gubernatorial election, has an organization planning to hold Adolf Hitler’s 125th birthday celebration in April.

Seto Hiroyuki, the former vice head of the neo-rightist party “Political Party of Restoration - New Wind”, is now calling for participation in the party by saying, “Let’s chat together over a glass of wine on the date of the great Chancellor’s birth!”

During the election campaign, the head of this rightist group rode in Tamogami’s campaign truck giving campaign speeches.

Xenophobic figure Sakurai Makoto, head of the Citizens’ Coalition against Special Privileges for Foreign Residents in Japan; pro-nuclear-armed Japan Ishihara Shintaro, former Tokyo governor and the co-chair of the Japan Restoration Party; and member of the NHK Board of Governors Hyakuta Naoki who called other candidates scums also gave speeches in favor of Tamogami in the campaign. Almost everyone backing him was such like-minded fellows.

He lost in the election, receiving 610,865 votes which accounted for 12.5% of the vote.