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April Fools (nobody)
December 12th, 2003, 02:20 AM
“Crazy April Gaede” has been a National Alliance member for about two years. In that time, she has fucked dozens of NA and COTC members physically and more than a handful financially.

In regards to her demands that the Internet criticisms of the Alliance stop, April, of all people, should know what rumor mongering is all about.

In 2002, April was involved in a relationship with senior NA leader Will Williams. Within weeks, Ms. Gaede was acting insane. She spread lies and rumors about Will to hundreds of members, claiming Will had been sexually involved with non-Whites and Asians while he served as a Special Forces officer in Vietnam in the late 1960‘s. After the leadership refused to get rid of her, Will resigned from the NA and April continued on this track - first fucking then attacking and attempting to destroy the reputations of several other key NA leaders. Despite being aware of several complaints about her sexual antics, William Pierce refused to remove Gaede from the rolls of the organization.

After Pierce died, this theme continued with April. Soon, she was “engaged” to the NA’s senior IT manager, Steven Sims, who was himself married to a Chinese woman. Sims created and managed the NA customer and membership list but, because of his race mixing marriage and half breed child he was ineligible to actually join the National Alliance. April had SIms close to suicide in a few weeks.

Next, April moved on to Chairman Gliebe, providing sexual favors to Erich in exchange for Resistance Records producing a CD of her two young daughter’s singing old Skrewdriver covers. (You just KNOW that CD is going to fly off the warehouse shelves.)

Fact is, April Gaede and Stacy Mokma have now probably fucked half of what is left of the National Alliance. Chairman Gliebe hooks them up with wavering members and has dipped into the well himself several times.

Now ask yourself, does this sort of conduct embarrass the new “family friendly” National Alliance? What should an honorable group of dedicated and “elite” White men and women do with such a notoriously promiscuous rumor mongering whore?

Well, in the “new” NA they make her a Unit Coordinator. That’s right, April Gaede is about to be named the National Alliance Unit Coordinator for Bakersfield, California.

NA Chief of Staff, Shaun Walker, recently remarked that April Gaede is a “ball of fire” when it comes to serving her race. Hey Shaun, you might want to pay a visit to the free clinic in Marlinton. They have shots that can clear that right up for you, bro.

X1965ChainImmigrants
December 12th, 2003, 02:25 AM
Do you have her phone number?

April Gaede
December 12th, 2003, 02:51 AM
I see nothing here that requires being dignified with a reply. Will, I am sorry you are still upset, but we can't always get what we want in life. I have had my share of disappointments as well. You need to learn to accept things that ARE, and move on.

Fin
December 12th, 2003, 02:57 AM
I would guess this guy is upset because April turned him down.

It's not healthy to react in that manner. I suggest you move on, there are plenty of women out there.

TylerD
December 12th, 2003, 03:14 AM
I see nothing here that requires being dignified with a reply. Will, I am sorry you are still upset, but we can't always get what we want in life. I have had my share of disappointments as well. You need to learn to accept things that ARE, and move on.

What makes you think that he wrote that? That does not look like his writing style.

Boondock Saint
December 12th, 2003, 04:23 AM
Fucking, then attacking. LMFAO!

I think what he said is right.

I'd rather hang out with the Shitmonstah, instead of getting involved in a fading NA.

I knew once Mr. Pierce died, it would all turn into a bad case of IBS.

Draco
December 12th, 2003, 10:47 AM
When I was over at Ft. Irwin, at the NTC for a month and a half, one of the radio stations we got came in from Bakersfield. Every seventeen seconds they'd mention Bakersfield is home "to the worlds largest thermometer", so I'm guessing Bakersfield is a typical podunk boring tiny town, which is why people drink and screw alot in such places.

A country girl like April simply took those values with her to the NA, allegedly of course. Since most defective racists are virgins well until their 30's, she did them a favor I guess. At least this one was White, compared to the other various mulattas, spics, and gooks "pro-white" losers often try to bang.

Go on and get yourself some April. Seems like things are "tense" with the NA anyway.

Lewis Hall
December 12th, 2003, 12:34 PM
April, your old e-mail is bouncing and for some reason I can't get this board to e-mail you. Give me a call,will you? He's doing it again.

LindaLou
December 13th, 2003, 04:12 AM
If she's half as Intelligent as she likes to lead folks to believe, she sure wouldn't be supporting the NA given the situation.

That ought to speak for itself!!!!!!! :D

White Will
December 13th, 2003, 03:43 PM
What makes you think that he wrote that? That does not look like his writing style.

You're right, TylerD, I am not "Nobody's Fool." I do not know who posted that, but it obviously comes from one who is quite familiar with the character, or lack thereof, and the shenanigans of the neurotic drama queen, Ms. Gaede, a self-admitted "sex addict." She can make a decent first impression on people, as she did with Dr. Pierce when he met her for the first time on a trip to an Alliance EuroFest in California in October of 2001. He put me in touch with her knowing I had been looking for a suitable racist woman for marriage. It didn't take me long to see that she was not a good match, so I moved on. Unfortunately, I had lent her family $900 for an emergency they had and in trying to collect it became abundantly clear to me that she had no intention of repaying the loan. I know how to collect debts from crooks, and in fact got my money back from her, or rather from whichever hapless Alliance member she was screwing and manipulating at that time (I lost count well up into the double digits).

Her nonresponsive reply to "Nobody's Fool":
"I see nothing here that requires being dignified with a reply. Will, I am sorry you are still upset, but we can't always get what we want in life. I have had my share of disappointments as well. You need to learn to accept things that ARE, and move on."

Huh!?! Ms. Gaede is off her rocker. She thinks I am upset and disappointed about something to do with her. Maybe she forgets that I dropped her, not the other way around as is the usual case for her in dealing with men. I have enough disappointment in Erich Gliebe and his wrecking crew that I have little left for some calloused-assed strumpet in California who can't keep her stinkin' pussy in her pants.

For the record, after years of disappointment dealing with shallow groupies and phony women like Gaede I finally learned that I do NOT need a racist woman for my wife -- my priorities were wrong. There simply aren't enough to go around for our much more numerous racist men, especially suitable, unsnipped ones of child-bearing age who are willing to create their families with a man of my years (56). A year ago I found a wonderful Aryan lady who is not overtly racial but nor does she object to the fact that I am. We got married in August and look forward to a successful union, thank you.

diabloblanco92
December 13th, 2003, 03:46 PM
Do you have her phone number?

Hey, I was about to ask the same thing, she sounds like fun

Diablo

diabloblanco92
December 13th, 2003, 03:51 PM
You're right, TylerD, I am not "Nobody's Fool." I do not know who posted that, but it obviously comes from one who is quite familiar with the character, or lack thereof, and the shenanigans of the neurotic drama queen, Ms. Gaede, a self-admitted "sex addict." She can make a decent first impression on people, as she did with Dr. Pierce when he met her for the first time on a trip to an Alliance EuroFest in California in October of 1991. He put me in touch with her knowing I had been looking for a suitable racist woman for marriage. It didn't take me long to see that she was not a good match, so I moved on. Unfortunately, I had lent her family $900 for an emergency they had and in trying to collect it became abundantly clear to me that she had no intention of repaying the loan. I know how to collect debts from crooks, and in fact got my money back from her, or rather from whichever hapless Alliance member she was screwing and manipulating at that time (I lost count well up into the double digits).

Her nonresponsive reply to "Nobody's Fool":
"I see nothing here that requires being dignified with a reply. Will, I am sorry you are still upset, but we can't always get what we want in life. I have had my share of disappointments as well. You need to learn to accept things that ARE, and move on."

Huh!?! Ms. Gaede is off her rocker. She thinks I am upset and disappointed about something to do with her. Maybe she forgets that I dropped her, not the other way around as is the usual case for her in dealing with men. I have enough disappointment in Erich Gliebe and his wrecking crew that I have little left for some calloused-assed strumpet in California who can't keep her stinkin' pussy in her pants.

For the record, after years of disappointment dealing with shallow groupies and phony women like Gaede I finally learned that I do NOT need a racist woman for my wife -- my priorities were wrong. There simply aren't enough to go around for our much more numerous racist men, especially suitable, unsnipped ones of child-bearing age who are willing to create their families with a man of my years (56). A year ago I found a wonderful Aryan lady who is not overtly racial but nor does she object to the fact that I am. We got married in August and look forward to a successful union, thank you.

Like sands in the hourglass........

enigma
December 18th, 2003, 10:40 PM
Isn't her father Bill Gaede? Why does she still use her maiden name? Even if she were previously married and changed her name back, why wouldn't she want her two young daughters to keep their father's name?

White Will
December 19th, 2003, 02:13 AM
I wish I could say I'm shocked at this abuse of Comrade Gaede, but I'm not. Ye Olde Right Wing whines nonstop at the lack of women taking up the cause, yet is it any wonder? What woman in her right mind would want to fight alongside pathetic terminal bachelors like this?
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I'm not familiar with you, Mr. Kearney, but since you want to take me to task, I'll reply to the two rants I just caught, combining them both.

First, "Crazy April Gaede" is not a woman in her right mind as you suggest.

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I know you closet faggots, who couldn't get a woman if your life depended on it, have all the excuses down pat. "Women these days are too feminist" is one good excuse--yet you forget that in the "good old days" men were expected to have HONOR. A Victorian man would not get caught DEAD talking about a woman's "pussy" and sex life.
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You sure are a big talker, calling me a faggot in the same breath you scream the word "HONOR." You can live your prudish Victorian fantasy, but I should remind you we live in the 21st century, not the 19th. Gaede is no feminist; she's a foul-mouthed, knuckle-cracking cowgirl who wishes she were a man. If you get close enough to her you'll soon discover she is a manipulative, sexual predator. Now, that's OK with me -- she's a liberated woman and can screw anybody she wants to screw. I hope she screws you. Don't lend her any money, Dennis, not if you expect to get it back.

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And of course if Gaede were a MAN the "sex issue" wouldn't come up at all.
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Duh! If she were a man and conned me out of $$$, I'd deal with her like I deal with any man -- any disHONORable thief.

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Admit it: Gaede intimidates you small-dick queers because she has the balls you lack! She epitomizes, in your pathetic, ill-formed minds, everything you wish you had: guts. Any kind of "man" who would talk of Gaede as one person here did is just the sort of loser who WOULD screw muds.
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I don't care much for women with balls, thanks. Gaede is a trouble-maker with her tough guy. Fact! You've never seen her wild mood swings, have you? You just want to protect her HONOR.

Tell me Mr Kearney, who are you? What have you done for our cause except protect the so-called HONOR of this crazy woman that you have unilaterally decided is in her right mind, just like you have decided that I must be a queer. I've never heard your name. Please do not avoid this question.

I'd have kept my mouth shut about Shadey Gaede except she decided to come on here and hurl crap at me. It didn't take long for her to take off with her tail between her legs because she knows that I'm one man on this forum who she can't con.

As for this "screwing muds" business, I have never denied that I screwed Vietnamese women. It's not something I'm particularly proud of; it's just a fact. If you had been a 20 or 21-year old in Vietnam in the 1960's, it's a cinch that you would have screwed Vietnamese women, too. I'm not making excuses for my youthful indicretions. That's what soldiers did back then when you'd stuff 1,000 piasters in their pocket and send them off to town to an Army-run whorehouse to break the stress of too much combat for too long, dumbass. I can remember only one man I served with there who didn't. He was married and took his vows seriously. I volunteered this information to Gaede in good faith. When I later started putting the squeeze on her to pay back the money she owed me, this is all she had on me and this so-called HONORABLE woman started spreading it around to people I care about in the hope that I'd back off. It didn't work then, and it won't work now. For the record, I took two R&R's to Australia from Vietnam, mainly so I could screw some good ol' round-eyed Aryan girls. I came to find the Vietnamese women repulsive, and I haven't screwed a mud woman since 1969, a good 15 years before I became active in the White resistance.

What sort of dirt are we going to find out about you, Mr. squeaky clean Victorian man who thinks sex is an immaterial issue? Let's hear your story.

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After all, it's nice to be treated like a man without having to be one. Same goes for an inability to find a racially-conscious partner, finally getting married within spitting distance of senior citizenship! Of course, a real "White Man" doesn't quit the cause in a snit over an ex-girlfriend. Grow up.
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Quit the cause? I haven't gone anywhere. This is what I hear Gliebe and Pringle and Walker have been saying about me behind my back -- certainly not to my face -- that I quit the Alliance over a woman. I resigned from the National Alliance, all right, but it's not over a woman. It's over sheepish men who claim I quit over a woman. My cause is greater than the National Alliance. Where is the Alliance in North Carolina now? I built it up from three members to nearly 100, spread across the entire state. I'd be surprised if it's much more than three again. NA has a brilliant outreach going here, trying to undermine me among loyal friends. Maybe you and the "ball of fire," the HONORABLE Miss Gaede, would like to come on in the Tarheel state and give it another shot at Alliance-building. Good luck!

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John, I agree with you there is another agenda afoot in this dishonorable attack on Gaede. The "finances" and sex stuff have nothing to do with politics. What Gaede does in her private life is her own fucking business, and this "Who Struck John" pretence of White Swill and others where they pretend they are shocked at her supposed sex life is cowardly and pathetic.
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I have no idea what you're talking about with this "hidden agenda" business and with the cryptic "Who Struck John" reference???

I'm going to give you a chance to reply before I add you to my "Ignore" list. As for my being a coward and a queer and all that I invite you to come on down to North Carolina and meet me and we can settle that right quick, my pompous, hypocritical Victorian friend. And I'll even give you a couple of hours to gather a crowd, if you wish. You realize that those are fighting words, do you not. I accept your challenge to my name and my honor.

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It shows deep down they're really little boys. We've all seen it--the "Special Forces" stuff (what is that, the name of the bowling team at Retard High?) is the kicker. All this he-man stuff is part of an identity totally out of whack with reality (the reality being a bunch of little nips kicked the shit out of rough tough Will and his Baby Boomer he-men). When a real woman develops an identity of her own and puts them in the shade, then watch out! To see a 57-year-old "man" talk like this is a neon advertisement of a lot of what is wrong with WN politics.
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Whatever. People who know me know that I rarely mention my tours in Vietnam or that I was in Special Forces. I do not live in the past. Dr. Pierce liked to make a big deal out of my being a "Special Forces Captain with two combat tours," like he liked to mention that Gliebe had an amateur boxing career as the "Aryan Barbarian." That sort of stuff makes for good PR. But, like I said, if you want to challenge me on this forum that I wasn't SF, we need to meet face-to-face, not on some goddamned internet forum, and we can straighten the matter out, don't you think? You can defend Crazy Gaede's HONOR and I can defend mine and all the other boomers that you and she have so much contempt for -- a perfect solution.

For your information, I am 56, not 57. I am married, to a woman who just turned 33, and I am healthy as a horse. I'm six-feet tall and weigh 195 pounds. You may be 25, 6' 9'', and weigh 250 pounds, but that doesn't phase me in the least.
Come on down!

Mike in CT
December 19th, 2003, 02:40 AM
The "finances" and sex stuff have nothing to do with politics. What Gaede does in her private life is her own fucking business, and this "Who Struck John" pretence of White Swill and others where they pretend they are shocked at her supposed sex life is cowardly and pathetic.

I don't know April Gaede from Adam so the following is not meant to pertain to her.

Sex may not be connected to "politics" per se but it is still of public (i.e. racial-cultural) concern. Sexual mores and proper White family life directly impact not only the biology (reproduction) of our Race but also the psychology (raising) of happy, healthy White kids. To brush this aside is not a White Nationalist position but rather a facile, libertarian one. Illegitimacy and broken homes are undeniable signs of nigger culture and need to be discouraged at all costs. I am sorry for whose feelings this may hurt, but this needs to be said, again and again and again, until it sinks in:

Illegitimacy and broken homes are undeniable signs of nigger culture.

At the root of our present niggeresque cultural malaise are jew-inspired materialism, hedonism and hyperindividualism. We need to move past these tendencies and move back towards a family-oriented morality. This is what might be called Living White. I really have to wonder at those who love WN politics but seem to sneer at the Living White perspective. Politics is always a dirty business, but White culture has the potential to be a beautiful thing. Opposing jews and niggers may be entirely necessary, but it can never be a substitute for Living White. Take that one to heart.

This should shed light on the question of honor in women, and the duty of men to defend it. A real White woman's honor is literally worth dying for, but a slut negates her honor and therefore deserves no defense when verbally slandered. This is the price the slut pays for placing individualist sexual prerogative in front of the interests of her children, whatever ones she may have. A man who thinks every woman has honor is a fool. How can so many women have one, two, or three children and no father (or no one of the fathers) living at her residence and think this is anything close to Living White, let alone call herself a WN? I hasten to add that a male who acts in similarly irresponsible manner, who uses women sexually and then callously abandons them, is equally deserving of contempt.

The bottom line is, things are majorly fucked up at this stage of our race's existence and desperately need to be fixed. Our problems are more spiritual than political, though few see it. I have no idea how we may turn things around--I would be surprised if one in five even understands my truth. But I assure you, Nothing goes right until we go White--and that means Living White.

Dennis Kearney
December 19th, 2003, 10:59 AM
Dear Mr. Williams,

All I'm saying is that a woman should not be attacked in public for her alleged sex-life. I understand you had a poor experience with Gaede, and who hasn't had a painful relationship at some point? In the heat of anger I got off issue in going after you personally, for which I'm man enough to apologize. Nonetheless my main point still stands; whatever "issues" you have/had with Gaede are easily dealt with without throwing in personal details of this nature, not least as it sets a precedent and reinforces a disrespectful attitude towards our female comrades. I am raising my own (toddler) daughters as racialists and am protective of the environment of the cause that they will some day join. Let's not forget Gaede has daughters of her own who will soon be old enough to understand these attacks on their mother. Without all the sturm und drang I think in all honesty that that's a fair point to make, frankly.

enigma
December 19th, 2003, 12:05 PM
Yes, both women and men should be held accountable for their sexual behavior. Ms. Gaede's two young daughters will soon be old enough to understand that their mother is leading a very promiscuous lifestyle, so I think they will have no problem understanding why she is being criticized. Correct me if I am mistaken but I don't believe Ms. Gaede is in her twenties. A woman of her age should certainly have learned by now what behavior is acceptable of a true lady. I again ask the question: Why does April use her maiden name? If she were previously married and changed her name back, wouldn't she still want her daughters to keep their father's name? In regards to her being named a unit coordinator, I do not feel this is a position a woman should hold. Aren't their any quality men out in California to handle this position? You stated that you are raising your daughters as racialists. Are you raising them on your own? You make no mention of a wife. Could it be that you are next on Ms. Gaede's list? The gentleman that posted earlier about illegitimate children made a great point.

Dick Head
December 19th, 2003, 12:13 PM
reinforces a disrespectful attitude towards our female comradesThis is rich coming from somebody who throws around insults like "closet faggots" and "small dicked queers".

Dennis Kearney
December 19th, 2003, 12:30 PM
This is rich coming from somebody who throws around insults like "closet faggots" and "small dicked queers".

Which is why those remarks are withdrawn.
Sorry I'm going to have to disappoint you in your interest for drama http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=6251#post6251.

Dennis Kearney
December 19th, 2003, 12:38 PM
Yes, both women and men should be held accountable for their sexual behavior. Ms. Gaede's two young daughters will soon be old enough to understand that their mother is leading a very promiscuous lifestyle, so I think they will have no problem understanding why she is being criticized. Correct me if I am mistaken but I don't believe Ms. Gaede is in her twenties. A woman of her age should certainly have learned by now what behavior is acceptable of a true lady. I again ask the question: Why does April use her maiden name? If she were previously married and changed her name back, wouldn't she still want her daughters to keep their father's name? In regards to her being named a unit coordinator, I do not feel this is a position a woman should hold. Aren't their any quality men out in California to handle this position? You stated that you are raising your daughters as racialists. Are you raising them on your own? You make no mention of a wife. Could it be that you are next on Ms. Gaede's list? The gentleman that posted earlier about illegitimate children made a great point.

There is nothing wrong in principle with women as leaders. The "anti-woman" thing is purely Jewish in origin, and feminism as we know it is a mirror reaction. Our ancestors had no problems with female leadership: Boadicea, Joan of Arc, Catherine the Great, the Empress Maria Theresa, the list goes on. A good book on this is Antonia Fraser's "Warrior Queens".

And no, I am not a "single dad"--I'm happily married to the mother of my kids (and no, neither she nor I have any out of a "previous relationship").

WhiteGirl
December 19th, 2003, 12:44 PM
All I'm saying is that a woman should not be attacked in public for her alleged sex-life.

The attacks weren't really on her sex life, but on the way she uses WN men as cash machines. Sex is just her way of getting cash (think hard, there's a name for that kind of behavior, and it shure isn't "ladylike"). Worse than that, she was using the NA as a vehicle to do it with. The whole deal about WW has been mentioned on this board, but it wasn't just a relationship gone wrong - she was trying to scre him out of money, and then wnet around spreading a bunch of lies about him (and attempting to use other NA members & NA leaders to help her do this). This isn't an issue of sex or relationships, and all of these threads bashing WW or "defending virtuous womanhood" (this is VNN remember, so fat chance there) still don't change the issue. It doesn't matter whether or not she's a whore - the real issue is that she is a fraud, a cheat, and a liar, and she is using th National Alliance and the WN movement in general to trick men and scam them out of their money.

Before she ever dated Will, she seemed to have her sights set on another NA member from NC, but suddenly broke off contact with him when he made it clear that has was not going to sned her several thousand dollars in "travel expenses", no matter how many times she emailed him or called whining about it (she used the same ploy she's used with others- flirted, put her daughters on the phone, talked about how bad she wanted a good man & a family, got him hooked, then started begging for cash to "come visit" - he offered to buy a ticket on a credit card, or reimburse her for the flight upon arrival, but got suspicious when she startedd demanding cash in advance, and wanting about 3x what the airline tickets would've really cost). Again, she's using promises of sex and a relationship as the "bait", but the real issue comes down to money, and playing little headgames when she doesn't get her way.

Dick Head
December 19th, 2003, 01:11 PM
Which is why those remarks are withdrawn.
Sorry I'm going to have to disappoint you in your interest for drama Darn, I love these threads about white trash sluts in the NA. I consider the NA to be a fucking pathetic joke, but if it helps a few of their loser members to get laid, I suppose it serves a useful purpose.

Jenab
May 19th, 2004, 07:10 AM
I too gave it a thought after the first series of posts: would April Gaede's sexual exploits be any issue if she was a man. And, for the most part it wouldn't.
While "social justice" notions regarding gender egalitarianism aren't as destructive as those regarding racial egalitarianism, it's still true that women and men are not commensurables, that pro-racial behavior for one may not be pro-racial behavior for the other. But I expect that most of April's critics aren't motivated for that reason, but instead because they have come to misfortune or distress because of a previous liaison with her.

I do not know April Gaede at all, the first I heard of her was over at NationalVanguard.Org recently. But I think the issue with Gaede is not purely of a sexual nature but that of her exploiting individuals financially - for that appears to be the crux of the matter against her.
I met April a few times at the NA office. She wanted me to add to the National Vanguard Books inventory a large stack of old, pre-Political Correctness textbooks on history and race. I'm not sure where I would have gotten reprints for NVB stock, though. And this was while I was editing Which Way Western Man, so I didn't have a lot of time.

My impression is that April is an ambitious woman who wants to climb the prominence within White Nationalism and that she has used several WN men as stepping stones in that climb.

There are good things that can be said of her, too. She seems to be raising her girls properly. She isn't adverse to being a pro-White symbol in a place where that can be dangerous. She writes well: see http://www.nationalvanguard.org/printer.php?id=2378

...She brought up issues that one must give her credit for, she at least acknowledged the dissent coming from NA members, something that the Gang-of-Four are oblivous to. But instead of responding to her post, individuals decided it was better to resort to ad hominem attack.
I understand the impulse to do a smear job. I used to succumb to it when I was a liberal in the early 1990s writing opinion letters in the Huntsville AL newspapers. It's easy. It provides thrills and gratification: "Take that, you varlet!" and "Heh heh I guess that'll show him."

...I believe the accusations against Duke. And similar ones can be said about William L. Pierce, a man who exploited his position to ball sycophantic young females.
Again, nature crafted gender such that survival-adapted behavior is not symmetric between the sexes. Some men do seem to carry it too far though.

Jerry Abbott had recently stated that Dr. Pierce had alienated a qualified middle-aged woman from possibly working for NA headquarters. The explanation Abbott gave was that Pierce offered her an unreasonable salary and accomodations in order to join NA staff, whereas he would make whatever arrangement necessary to accomadate a young bimbo.
Dr. Pierce wouldn't necessarily have given a girlfriend a high-salaried job. He had been looking for a secretary to keep his office neat. (That was the actual reason too: the boss never did master the art of keeping his working environment tidy.) The middle aged woman you referred to proposed to maintain Dr. Pierce's library, which had been recently expanded by a very large donation of books by an elderly NA member. It is true that she declined the job because she didn't believe she could live on what Dr. Pierce had offered to pay her.

So yes, there's a double standard, and its bullshit if men with the same track record are not given the full treatment as was Gaede, if she's indeed fair game.
Some double standards (or dual moral codes) are necessary. Some are racially advantageous even if they are not strictly necessary.

April isn't a racial enemy, even if she may have misbehaved a bit and caused problems for some of us. She's useful. We must just keep our distance from her, now that we know that her ambition is a much a part of her nature as her racism.

Jerry Abbott

AK*
May 19th, 2004, 04:11 PM
Huh!?! Ms. Gaede is off her rocker. She thinks I am upset and disappointed about something to do with her. Maybe she forgets that I dropped her, not the other way around as is the usual case for her in dealing with men. I have enough disappointment in Erich Gliebe and his wrecking crew that I have little left for some calloused-assed strumpet in California who can't keep her stinkin' pussy in her pants.


Hmmm.

For years I wondered who was the turd and who was the "good-guy" in your ongoing soap-opera-like shit-fest with Covington. Judging by the way you discuss female WN activists, I guess now I know who the turd is.

Mike Mazzone of Palatine
May 19th, 2004, 04:20 PM
Hmmm.

For years I wondered who was the turd and who was the "good-guy" in your ongoing soap-opera-like shit-fest with Covington. Judging by the way you discuss female WN activists, I guess now I know who the turd is.
You'll find your perception of Will Williams will be similar to that of Elizabeth Bennett, whose site is currently down. According to her, Gaede is a saint, Williams is a deviant, Linder and White are jews, and all of us here on VNN forum are to be referred to in scatological terms.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=3937

April Fools (nobody)
May 19th, 2004, 04:28 PM
Excuse me for asking but who are you to know all this? I know there are a LOT of sluts in the movement, but why should we trust you on this issue? How were you in a position to know these things?


If what I say is true, who I am and how I know really doesn’t matter.

The original article, posted late last year, stated that Gliebe intended to make April Gaede an NA unit coordinator. It was recently announced that April is now the Bakersfield UC.

The original article stated that Gliebe intended to produce a CD of April’s daughters singing Skrewdriver covers on the Resistance Records label. This was announced in the latest issue of the magazine, where April’s two 11-year-olds are featured in mini-skirts on the cover. (The photo inside, with Gliebe’s arms around these two little girls is as creepy as the cover shot.)

The original article outlined Will Williams’ experiences with Ms. Gaede. Will confirmed the veracity of my statements in a subsequent post to this thread.

Finally, this six month old thread was inexplicably resuscitated recently by “Jenab” AKA, Jerry Abbot; a former senior NA staffer. As it turns out, although he did not mention it, Jerry’s brother is yet another victim of Ms. Gaede’s sexual predations within the National Alliance.

Small fucking world, huh?

As to why I should be trusted on this issue and how I am “in a position to know these things,” it would seem to me that you need to ask yourself these questions. All of the information in the original post was common knowledge among just about everyone at the October LC.

Word on you, “Yasa,” is that you are generally regarded as a loyal, capable and honorable man. Word is that you are among a number of influential members of your unit who seem to be losing their religion with the NA as of late. (Heard Jerry’s kid finally moved out and left some interesting artifacts behind. Also heard NAHQ is riding JC to get those long-lapsed dues payments caught up.)

Although you are probably one of the more sensible NA defenders left on this board, the only real question you have to ask yourself is this: If you eventually realize that the “new” NA is corrupt, incompetent and less than honorable, will you be man enough to admit it? At least to yourself and the comrades who look up to you?

AK*
May 19th, 2004, 07:02 PM
You'll find your perception of Will Williams will be similar to that of Elizabeth Bennett, whose site is currently down. According to her, Gaede is a saint, Williams is a deviant, Linder and White are jews, and all of us here on VNN forum are to be referred to in scatological terms.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=3937

she's some kind of super-prostitute who's slept with every guy in the [bowel] "movement."

Obviously not true, she has not done the horizontal tango with me ;)

Antiochus Epiphanes
May 21st, 2004, 02:59 PM
I dont know or much care about April but her kids are cute and as a mother I wish her well.

As for White Will, if he poked a few gooklets with his gun back decades ago I could care less. There's plenty of people who call themselves WN who have probably crossed those lines when they shouldnt have. If somebody has repented miscegenation and their life has not been "complicated" by it, I'm not going to call it a problem.

Nor am I going to call Ms Gaede's alleged exploits a problem. But she shouldnt be too miffed if when she kisses someone else tells.

Maybe once we have reclaimed a measure of social and cultural autonomy we can be more exacting about this sort of thing but for now there's plenty higher priorities than talking about other people's sex lives.

Bleach
May 21st, 2004, 04:26 PM
From someone one looking from the outside in, a person would say April Gaede is a kick-ass WN activist. So what you say is indeed a good point.

And let's not forget that sometimes people of similar ideological bent don't always get along. (Some people just don't like Tom Metzger because of his atheism or whatever.) As far as what April Gaede may or may have not done, her only sin may be that she has done this on a systematic level. If not, then she is no different than the majority of men out there who screw over often good and loyal women.

"Every man eventually plays the role of scoundrel to a woman; the thoroughly moral man only does it once" -- H.L. Mencken.

Isn't April Gaede 6 months pregnant with her 3rd daughter right now? This is what I've heard from an NA source, if so than who's is it?

AK*
May 21st, 2004, 04:38 PM
Isn't April Gaede 6 months pregnant with her 3rd daughter right now? This is what I've heard from an NA source, if so than who's is it?

None of our concern, but I understand she has been married to a WN for a year or so, so I would presume the husband is the father.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showpost.php?p=1055140&postcount=34

I wish the family all the best, and hope they have many more little ones :)

April Fools (nobody)
May 21st, 2004, 06:23 PM
Keep your head down, Jasa. The NA does not take kindly to even the mildest criticism. Hope you find your way in the struggle. You sound like a reasonable and perceptive young man.

Librarian
May 22nd, 2004, 01:24 AM
[....] My impression is that April is an ambitious woman who wants to climb the prominence within White Nationalism and that she has used several WN men as stepping stones in that climb. [....] Jerry Abbott
She may very well be ' kick-ass activist', but experience teaches us that these 'ambitious' types have no ideology or commitment. They'll go and work for anyone who will give them a bigger desk and more staff.

And they usually take the membership lists with them too.

Thump_88
May 22nd, 2004, 04:10 PM
Keep your head down, Jasa. The NA does not take kindly to even the mildest criticism. Hope you find your way in the struggle. You sound like a reasonable and perceptive young man.

He is and he will.
You have to understand its not the whole movement its aRIZONA
this place is worthless ,a complete write off. Jasa mistakes this fuck hole
state as a thou its like that everywhere NO.....I tell him all the time "jasa get out! get out while you still can!"By reading my Brothers posts as of late I
fear It maybe to late aRIZONA is a FUCKING sickness

bizmark
May 22nd, 2004, 11:26 PM
just a short comment. Some have suggested that people are jumping on Gaede's sexual behavior just because she's a woman, implying that a double standard exists. While such a double standard may exist (and it's probably a good thing if it does), I have seen Erich Gliebe receive his fair share of flames on this board for his womanizing and sleeping around.

Gliebe is condemned for using his position of power as the head of the NA. Gaede is condemned for using her position of power as a young, prominent, outspoken White female in a movement dominated by horny young males.

Christopher Drake
May 23rd, 2004, 02:14 AM
I tell you what, folks, when you see me around, be it at events on or just at the pub, come up to me and tell me all about what you think of Ms. April. Be as negative as you wish and do so at your own peril. Not everyone lives, fights and dies on the internet, ace.

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/crpdrake/gunz.jpg

There you go! Fill me in to your hearts content!

Pixi
May 23rd, 2004, 02:45 AM
I tell you what, folks, when you see me around, be it at events on or just at the pub, come up to me and tell me all about what you think of Ms. April. Be as negative as you wish and do so at your own peril. Not everyone lives, fights and dies on the internet, ace.

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/crpdrake/gunz.jpg

There you go! Fill me in to your hearts content!
You look constipated. Here, have some ExLax.

Christopher Drake
May 23rd, 2004, 02:50 AM
Thanks! Here's me during the winter time with my 12 year old.

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/crpdrake/blades88.jpg

Pixi
May 23rd, 2004, 02:53 AM
Um, yes. Right-o!

White Flag
May 27th, 2004, 05:58 PM
"Thump, you know damn well that the movement problems are everywhere." no shit so why not try to fix them? You think by escaping this country, that magically all the movement problems outside of vinland will magically disappear?

Modly
May 27th, 2004, 06:35 PM
Hilareth, I doubt you'd say that to that guy in person.


I'm sure he'd see it as a joke, and leave her alone...
I can't picture a guy on our side beating a woman over a little humour.

Pixi
May 27th, 2004, 06:57 PM
Hilareth, I doubt you'd say that to that guy in person.

Of course I would. And hopefully he'd have a sense of humor and know I was just playing around.

I can't picture a guy on our side beating a woman over a little humour.
I'm sure there's at least a few of them who would.

Vonbluvens
May 27th, 2004, 08:59 PM
The Doc and I have been telling you about the NA for over a year. Why o why will people not see these perverts for what they are?

Thump_88
May 28th, 2004, 12:00 PM
"Thump, you know damn well that the movement problems are everywhere." no shit so why not try to fix them? You think by escaping this country, that magically all the movement problems outside of vinland will magically disappear?

I didnt mean Vinland I ment just get out of aRIZONA because its not worth fixing. aRIZONA is a complete write off . I cant say that
strong enough I would like to see it wiped from the face
of the earth

Thump_88
May 31st, 2004, 08:03 PM
The situation is this, there is no "movement" in America. Here there is the circus, not a movement. In Europe, there ARE movements. Despite the fact that Russians rarely ever see a Negro in person, they still express revulsion toward them. I distinctly remember one of the first Russian students I talked to over there asking me in English: "Do you have to go to school with niggers?"

There is a real sense of identity over there, not a bunch of misfits who like to dress up in SA uniforms, Klan robes, or claim they are the true Israelites or that they are "Pan-Aryan Communists", etc. And yes, there are "Pan-Aryan Communists" here.

It's a circus, not a movement.

BULLSHIT,BULLSHIT,BULLSHIT,BULLSHIT, aRIZONA IS NOT THE WHOLE FUCKING COUNTRY I HAVE TOLD YOU THAT A MILLION TIMES

Thump_88
May 31st, 2004, 09:07 PM
J.P you told us how impressed you were with the "movement" in
Calf. when you visted there. Am I right or wrong?
look, Im not saying its your fault you just stayed here to long
Brother. I wont say I told you so....BUT

Christopher Drake
May 31st, 2004, 09:49 PM
Of course I would. And hopefully he'd have a sense of humor and know I was just playing around.


I'm sure there's at least a few of them who would.


I'd laugh and say "Constipated? Woops...umm...not anymore...Be right back!" Then I'd take off running.

Pixi
May 31st, 2004, 10:40 PM
I'd laugh and say "Constipated? Woops...umm...not anymore...Be right back!" Then I'd take off running.
Yay! You do have a sense of humor! :D

Thump_88
June 4th, 2004, 05:45 PM
J.P you told us how impressed you were with the "movement" in
Calf. when you visted there. Am I right or wrong?
look, Im not saying its your fault you just stayed here to long
Brother. I wont say I told you so....BUT

JP was also impressed with the movement in Kansas when he lived there
to Funny how he continusly suports aRIZONA



This was my father's belief
and this is also mine,
Let the corn be all of one sheaf,
and the grapes be all of one vine.
Lest our children's teeth are set on edge
by bitter bread or wine

Thump_88
June 5th, 2004, 02:39 AM
=J.P. Slovjanski]Movement in Kansas? What the hell are you talking about?

your best friend Commander Schoep of NSM(motto: Where it's still 1933!)


FIRST: You lived in Kansas where you visited and maybe "STAYED" at some
sort of Religious compond You said "they were hard core fanatics"
like thay were in some sorta army or something
SECOND:Commander Schoep is not my friend. He is a complete
NUT CASE and not in a good balls to the wall kinda way. I mean
I would be suprised if he could tie his fucking boots without drooling
on them

White Will
June 5th, 2004, 11:33 AM
Quote:(Originally Posted by White Will in 2003, resurrected, highlighted and commented on by "AK"):

"...some calloused-assed strumpet in California who can't keep her stinkin' pussy in her pants."

Hmmm.

For years I wondered who was the turd and who was the "good-guy" in your ongoing soap-opera-like shit-fest with Covington. Judging by the way you discuss female WN activists, I guess now I know who the turd is.

Suit yourself, Mr. "AK." Like most lazy 'Net activists you've gotten no closer to the truth than your computer screen. You have to believe that I'm "FBI Special Agent Finchley," "John Doe #2" and all the other characters Covington has claimed I am, too, because he swears it's all true and because you, with your great powers of discrimination, have determined that he is the truth-teller and I the "turd," for knocking your bottle-blond "Valkyrie" off her phony pedestal. Otherwise you'll have to conclude what the court in Williams v. Covington knows and what those of us who have been around WN for more than a few months know: that HC is a master liar and a monumental fraud. My eloquent, albeit ungentlemanly description of your Ms. Gaede, the one that bugs you so much, stands. The self-described "SheWolf" "sex addict" knows it fits. The wives and girlfriends of the men of the Barstow, CA, Local Unit of the NA -- or from wherever it is she's supposedly "leading" -- need to know that their men's leader is a sexual predator She Wolf who will fuck a snake should her self-described "uncontrollable animal instincts" kick in and if someone will just help her hold the snake still.

I was just reading this week's very informative American Dissident Voices transcript this morning and remembered KAS talking about this New Orleans Protocol (NOP) that the NA has now foolishly subscribed to. He talked about how tha NA and other signatories to the NOP, mostly right-wing Xian patriots such as Ed Fields, Don Black, David Duke and, arguably, Dr. Pierce's most bitter enemy, Willis Carto -- the man who for years claimed 'per se' in his "Spotlight" tabloid that Dr. Pierce was a "federal asset" -- will be "distancing [themselves] from irresponsible elements [their critics - primarily some of us at VNNF] by setting a high moral tone in [their] efforts to secure a future for White children." That's verbatim cut & paste from this week's ADV. "High moral tone" is one of those phrases like "good moral character," that old requirements for Alliance membership; it's hard to describe, but we know it when we see it or WHEN IT'S LACKING. I want no part of the "new & improved NA," AK, where profligate bed-hoppers like the Aryan Barbarian and his sometime concubine, the "SheWolf of the NA" are setting the "high moral tone" for the rest of us. I'll be the "turd," friend, and continue to call things as I see them. I look for the day when your Mr. Covington joins with the other signatories to the silly NOP and cloaks himself in their self-claimed "high moral tone" mantle for convenient cover from his critics. How will the NOP crowd keep such an "honorable" professional smear artist like Covington out of their councils if he agrees not to criticize them? They would love to have him in their coalition, attacking their critics instead of attacking them. So would JOG.

This bullshit is going to come down to what's it's always come down to: the Nature-based, anti-Jew, and, by extention, anti-Xian Aryan activists vs. the Xian patriots for control of the direction the White resistance will take. We will either be a White movement or a Xian one -- NOT both, because the two are entirely incompatible, even mutually exclusive. Though certainly not a Xian himself, Covington has always used the latter group to attack and disrupt the former. Even his old Minister of Propaganda (or whatever he was), Martin Lindstadt, admits Tubby Covington is a world class liar who uses the Identity Xians to attack the biological racists. ML uses the euphemism "self-loving solipsists" to describe the latter, but read between his nutty lines for the "Us (Jesus lovers) vs. Them (blaspheming rational racists)" struggle.

Thump_88
June 5th, 2004, 09:04 PM
YOU TELL HIM JP!!!!!!!!!
Fuck off white Will, boy toy to the WR elite JP and I are busy right now

White Will
June 5th, 2004, 09:24 PM
Oh I see! NOW this thread is about YOU, White Will, and this Gaede chick!!! I don't know if you noticed, but there is a heated debate going on here between Thump 88 and myself. We don't need people coming in here with off-topic anecdotes about people they slept with. A worthy effort you made indeed, trying to derail the important conversation within this thread. A worthy effort, but a failed one nonetheless.

Go start your own topic!!!

You're right. I didn't read your so-called important, heated debate with your learned adversary, Mr. "Thump;" skipped right over that. Your debates, like your lame criticism of me above, hold little if any interest for me. As anyone reading this can easily see, mine was a reply to Mr. "AK's" comments, which, BTW, were directed at me, concerning "Crazy April Gaede and the 'new' NA," the subject of this thread from last year. The discriminating people here who I'm interested in enlightening know full well that it is you and Mr. "Thump" who are off-topic on this particular thread, not I.

Klaus
June 5th, 2004, 09:48 PM
No disrespect, White Will, but I think young JP was being sarcastic. He surely knows by now the "legend" of Ms. Gaede among the rank and file of the "new" NA. JP and Thump are probably just messing with you.

Back on topic, are you aware of the school teacher who made the mistake of hooking up with April and what he is facing now?

R Nokes
October 19th, 2008, 07:14 AM
This is bullshit.

Herman van Houten
October 19th, 2008, 01:18 PM
I feel as if I'm present at an archeological dig.

R Nokes
October 20th, 2008, 05:43 AM
I feel as if I'm present at an archeological dig.

VNN has been rather boring lately, I thought I would spice things up.:cool:

blueskies
October 20th, 2008, 06:39 AM
Boring, huh?.Strip clubs with lap-dance, Champagne room topless chicks bounces boobs in the face, pole dancing etc takes boredom away.


http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_03/britney2AB2907_468x725.jpg

April
October 20th, 2008, 07:00 AM
Back on topic, are you aware of the school teacher who made the mistake of hooking up with April and what he is facing now?


Wow what happened to him? I hear that they now live in Montana and have a beautiful 4 year old daughter named Dresden. They have a nice house and recently made an addition of 2 rooms to make it a 5 bedroom. Also they built a swiss chalet style playhouse for Dresden and are putting in a greenhouse so that they can raise their own veggies.... Oh and he will have to spend his winter on the ski slopes at Big Mountain....Meanwhile he and April have been having fun decorating their house and landscaping the yard. They have two cats named Kitty and Catty and three chickens named Lemon, Ringo and Ruby.....Sounds like things are rough for them.

Peer Fischer
October 20th, 2008, 01:44 PM
Dresden...?

I bet she's a real little firestorm. :D

Peer Fischer
October 20th, 2008, 01:45 PM
This is bullshit.

Maybe you don't realize that by responding to this four-year old thread you just bumped it up to the first page.

Since it can't be unbumped maybe someone could move it to Nutzpah.