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Old November 22nd, 2011 #27
SmokyMtn
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Originally Posted by Kennewickman View Post
It is time to dig up every written document from Virginia from the time and examine them! Even private letters. The proof is going to be there that Virginia ratified the 13th!

We (barely) exist in a country that has been stolen from us!
I much rather people spend their time in helping our fellow Whites to understand the importance of securing the future of the White race. Besides, the records that you are looking for no longer exits due to the War of 1812 where England burned down the White House and destroyed the records. In Virginia, due to the same war, records were destroyed and there was not much legislative activity.

Some further comments:

Since 1983, researchers have uncovered evidence that:

The 13th Amendment prohibiting "titles of nobility" and "honors" appeared in at least 30 editions of the Constitution of the United States which were printed by at least 14 states or territories between 1819 and 1867.

Either this Amendment was:

Unratified and mistakenly published for almost 50 years; or

Ratified in 1819, and then illegally removed from the Constitution by 1867.

If this 13th Amendment was unratified and mistakenly published, the story has remained unnoticed in American history for over a century. If so, it's at least a good story -- an extraordinary historical anecdote. On the other hand, if Dodge is right and the Amendment was truly ratified, an Amendment has been subverted from our Constitution. If so, this "missing" Amendment would still be the Law, and this story could be one of the most important stories in American History. Whatever the answer, it's certain that something extraordinary happened to our Constitution between 1819 and 1867.

Other important issues:

1. The US Constitution is silent on whether the 3/4 of the states requirement applies to the number of states within the union at the time Congress sends the Amendment to the states for ratification, or whether the 3/4 requirement applies to the number of states at the time of ratification of the Amendment.

2. If the later, to pass the TONA all that is needed is for Virginia to ratify TONA for it to be the 28th Amendment to the US Constitution.

3. There is some disagreement about the ability of a state to rescind an amendment ratification prior to full ratification. In U.S. history, thus far, no rescinded ratifications have made a difference in the long run, though they certainly have happened, especially to the Reconstruction Amendments, 13 through 15.

4. There is no time limit and the TONA can still become part of the US Constitution.

5. In one case, the TONA was included in the US Constitution for one state even though that state was still unsure of it being ratified.

Last edited by SmokyMtn; November 22nd, 2011 at 04:27 PM.