Warning from South Africa: To, America and It’s Sheeple

[MikeTodd]

This is why we would never allow Brutus to become the Minister of Justice when we take over the reins of government. He is too emotional.

Actually I was thinking more along the lines of Secretary of the Interior.

[Gabry Ponte]

Originally Posted by banjo_billy

The police in your "USA ...strong police state" are Americans. To save the country means to save the whole country ... that includes the American police officers. Mostly, they are intelligent professionals who love their country. They are loyal, brave and patriotic but are, unfortunately, brainwashed by the kikes and Commies into betraying their people through false loyalty.

While you are in Europe getting your head beat in by European cops who don't owe you a damned thing, I will be here in America organizing the police forces to do the duty that they have sworn to do for their Oath of Office. A White Nationalist should be interested in the entire nation, every white person in every profession. No one should be left outside of the Folk because he is temporarily in the opposition. Only Jews and non-whites are forbidden to join the Association.

The American Police are only temporarily in the enemy camp. They require proper education of their honor and their duties. They must be turned around so that they can see the Truth and take the Jewish blinders of treason and betrayal off of their eyes. The Rod and Ring Association welcomes patriotic police officers as members as long as they can follow the rules of the organization and are able to repeat their Oath of Office on demand.

And the Association offers special police training seminars so that they can be healthier in their personal lives and safer in their on-duty street confrontations.

You are wrong Banjo. Police are people on power trips that like to feel self righteous. They enjoy ruining lives and busting a white racist would earn them points with the diversity mongrels up top. Police are ZOG. Period. Maybe in your area they are different but here they are brutal and will pop you full of lead in a flash.

You know I never felt threatend in Europe by the police. Because I knew I was in Europe with intelligent white people who have a brain and are not ZOG bots like the do good christians. The christian police force sees the world in black and white. Europeans see it as a grey area. They have something called reason. They hate seeing niggers, jews, and gypsys as much as I do. You can deal with them. Not true in the USA. They have procedure and are not open to reason. Just ZOG robots programmed to obey black and white laws no matter if they ruin a young kids life. They will taser your ass if you talk back or raise your voice. They have no honor or loyalty to the white race.

When I am in Europe you won't be doing shit Billy. Come off it. I don't blame you because there is nothing you can do really. But to pretend you are going to organize the police??? They will start investigating you and find a reason to put you away.

If you keep talking about the rod and ring association you will never get any serious members. It is fruit loops.

[Gabry Ponte]

Originally Posted by banjo_billy

Your comments are the comments of either a (1) defeated loser who is seeking something, anything, anywhere to find safe haven and not finding it where he is, wishes to also not find it somewhere else or (2) a Jewish troll who is trying the usual Jewish swindles of pretending to be a WN while sowing defeatism, treason, failure and doom-mongering. Your posts are filled with these.

But it won't work on VNN because others as well as myself recognize your disease for what it is.

If you are a Jew, then nothing can help you. If you are a white man, then there is still time for you to straighten out your deluded thinking and to become a genuine benefit to your people and to your country.

My comments are hard reality. You can't accept that the USA is going down.
Your comments are ludicrous. Where did you get the idea for "rod and ring" association??
If I was a jewish troll then I would have fucked your life up by now. I would have hacked your computer and posted all your private info online. Then I would have gone after your credit rating and open accounts with fake cards made in Israel. And you know Law Enforcement doesn't want to go against jews. Jews have the backing of ZOG. Antis can beat WNists right in front of cops without arrest. If WN try beating anti's they are quickly arrested and tasered. Maybe they will get charged with hate crimes too.

So if I was a militant jew who hates whites then I would use all my energy to shut you down. The jews have much more resources and friends then WN have.
But I am not a jew. So I am left with people like you. Unreasonable people who can't live in reality. And when you can't take it you try to bash the messenger. I didn't make the world the way it is. I am just living in it. And I try to do my best for my family and my race. It is sad to see whites go down the wrong path and fall while doing so. But I can't save those who are too stupid to know what is good for them. If you don't want to listen to reason then that is your choice. So if you are so sure then go ahead. I am not stopping your R&R Assoc.

My words have no impact on anything here. I am not stopping anyone from doing anything. People are not doing anything anyways. So your comments and accusations are misplaced at best.

[Roy]

Originally Posted by Mr Murray

This thread reminded me of this story from SASucks:

It shows that they don't know where the punches are coming from. I've read SASucks a bunch of times, and IIRC never saw them name the Jew.

For starters, you have Jew Joe Slovo, a Holocaust™ survivor from Lithuania singing with NM about killing whites.

YouTube- Nelson Mandela sings about killing whites

YouTube- Nelson Mandela sings about killing whites

Then you had the

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Rivonia_Trial

Rivonia Jews who were treacherously plotting to overthrow the South African government. Finally you had the Jewsmedia from the US constantly wailing and crying that there was a "white minority" government in South Africa.

It's impossible to fight when you don't even know who your enemy is.

[banjo_billy]

Originally Posted by Gabry Ponte

When I am in Europe you won't be doing shit Billy. Come off it. I don't blame you because there is nothing you can do really. But to pretend you are going to organize the police??? They will start investigating you and find a reason to put you away.

If you keep talking about the rod and ring association you will never get any serious members. It is fruit loops.

I don't advertize what I do and I don't put my nik or my name on what I do. So, you nor anyone else has a clue. And I am not going to play a "king of the mountain" kiddy game with you. But if you want to organize your people, don't make the cops your enemy because it is their country and their people, too. Oh, that's right, I almost forgot; you want to be a criminal, an anti-social parasite. I guess you would be a liability to any WN organization ... which means, strictly small time operator, not able or qualified to lead any more than a small gang.

Oh well, Just "Do Your Best". That's all any of us can do. If you do well, more power to you.

The cops do not concern me because I am not operating a criminal enterprise like you propose to do. They are not a problem for me, only for you. So, already you have one strike. Better give up your BS. Prison is kind of boring.

[Igor Alexander]

Originally Posted by Gabry Ponte

Poor woman. I'm imagining what I would feel like if that were my grandmother in these pictures.

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

Whites, including those in South Africa, are paralyzed by Christianity.

During Thanksgiving dinner, my grandmother, a Catholic, said that if she won $35 million, she would send it to Africa to build schools and infrastructure for the blacks. I asked, "Why can't they build their own schools and infrastructure?" She replied, "Because they lack the resources." To which I responded, "No, what they lack is the innate intelligence to do anything with those resources." This left her shocked and speechless, though it did elicit a few giggles from others at the table and an approving nod from a racist uncle.

My wife has an aunt, raised a Protestant, who with her husband has adopted a bunch of African jungle bunnies. My wife's grandparents -- decent, clean-livin', conservative Christian country folk -- are actually proud of their daughter for doing this.

I don't derive any pleasure from shitting on 1600 years of Western history, but after Thanksgiving, I can no longer defend the cancer on our race known as Christianity.

[Igor Alexander]

Originally Posted by Gabry Ponte

You know, I'm looking at these photos and they're making me cry. I don't even cry at funerals. Something about the look in this woman's eyes.

[Bassanio]

If anybody saved the gruesome crime scene photos posted by Uhuru Guru on ZAsucks.com, now would be a good time to share them with the rest of the world, because they were removed from ZAsucks very quickly.

They're the reason Uhuru Guru was arrested and his house raided.

[Marty Macaluso]

Originally Posted by Igor Alexander

You know, I'm looking at these photos and they're making me cry. I don't even cry at funerals. Something about the look in this woman's eyes.

When I saw the picture of this woman's face it reminded me a bit of the woman whose face was destroyed by JC the chimp.

[Hawthorne]

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

People keep saying that only when all whites experience diversity will they wake up and fight back. People who say this ignore what has happened in Zimbabwe and South Africa.

Whites didn't fight back.

To save ourselves, we can't wait, we must initiate.

White's are looking in the trash cans for food too.

[steven clark]

I have a question for any SA's out there: I read some of your literature, authors like Gordimer, Paton, Fugard, and recently a book DISGRACE by Coetzee. They all seem left, attacked apartheid and for years and years did nothing but denounce the government and whites. Now, what do they say?

I know Coetzee writes about racial problems, but again, there is a sense of guilt and the inevitable end of white civilization...and they don't seem to care or miss it. I know Gordimer was Jewish and she seems 'protected' from changes, but what about your other writers?

I remembered reading CRY,THE BELOVED COUNTRY and it in effect said if a black man murdered a white AND WAS REALLY SORRY ABOUT IT, then that was ok. It chilled me, and seems an attitude that infects our race.

South Africans, from what I gather, are in the usual middle class european
world, but are they that dense about what they championed? This seems to be a trait of artists in general, they're lefter than left, and they just don't care if our civilization is extinct.

If you're a writer in SA, how isolated are you?

[Bernie]

Banjo is on the right track. I think the key lies in who controls the Police, and other elements of the state security apparatus, guys who have sworn the oath of allegiance to the US constitution.

This is why it is important to promote and support the 'Oath Keeper' Movement, recently formed by a 40 something former US Army Paratrooper and member of Ron Paul's staff. This guy does, while we on here (mostly) type. The men who join are obviously well aware Criminal mass murderers have taken control of America. This movement has ENORMOUS potential to wrest back the old, decent America, which is exactly why it has already been discredited and attacked by the Ziopress.

Below are the things these guys WILL REFUSE TO DO.

1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.

2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people

3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.

4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.

5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.

6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.

7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.

8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control."

9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.

10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.



Founder Stewart Rhodes

Stewart is the founder and Director of Oath Keepers. He served as a U.S. Army paratrooper until disabled in a rough terrain parachuting accident during a night jump.

He is a former firearms instructor and former member of Rep. Ron Paul’s DC staff.

Stewart currently writes the monthly Enemy at the Gates column for S.W.A.T. Magazine

Stewart graduated from Yale Law School in 2004, where his paper “Solving the Puzzle of Enemy Combatant Status” won Yale’s Miller prize for best paper on the Bill of Rights. He assisted teaching U.S. military history at Yale, was a Yale Research Scholar, and is writing a book on the dangers of applying the laws of war to the American people.

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by Igor Alexander

You know, I'm looking at these photos and they're making me cry. I don't even cry at funerals. Something about the look in this woman's eyes.

She looks like an honest peasant, such as Brueghel would paint - the type probably 2/3 of us are descended from here.

[PeterKramer]

Originally Posted by Gabry Ponte

My comments are hard reality. You can't accept that the USA is going down.

The situation isn't good.

The US is about 64% White (66% according to the census, subtracting the 2% that are jews) and Canada is about 83% White.

The EU is, despite what's written by people who visit London or Paris, still nearly 95% White.

Even worse for the United States, we're host to the largest jew colonies outside of Israel with 5,914,682 jews. There are 1,445,990 jews in the 22 EU countries I could find estimates for. The 5 with no information (Cyprus, Finland, Ireland, Malta, Slovenia) probably don't have many more.

In the EU, with a population of 499,794,855, about 1 out of 345 people are jews. In the US about 1 out of 51 people are jews.

The US has a much bigger problem to deal with.

[Gabry Ponte]

Most people here have never been to Europe. Most Americans think America is #1. So even if the USA becomes just like SA they will never leave. I don't even try to educate them anymore. You just have to let them go.

[A.S.]

Originally Posted by Gabry Ponte

Most people here have never been to Europe. Most Americans think America is #1. So even if the USA becomes just like SA they will never leave. I don't even try to educate them anymore. You just have to let them go.

You do raise some valid points. The situation in America is grim, no doubt about it. Plenty of race traitors, dirty cops, ignorant ZOG-bots, tons of mud, etc. I make no predictions about what will happen to America, perhaps Whites will be destroyed here...

...but I doubt it. We have a minority of informed, intelligent, and ARMED Whites who are annoyed with ZOG's abuse and lies. Not all think racially and few understand the jew, but they hate the gov't and have the potential to be educated and/or benefit our side in some way.

Our abundant supply of firearms is a major advantage. I don't see how more Whites + more racial awareness (debatable) in Europe can counter balance lack of weaponry.

In Europe, there are laws against "hate speech" and "holocaust denial". In America, you can (technically) still speak your mind. Yes, you will suffer in some way, but at least it's not as easy for ZOG to lock you up.

The huge amount of mud swarming into America is good in one way: it weakens ZOG, because ZOG relies heavily on competent Whites to keep functioning as an effective engine of tyranny and oppression. For example, it is much easier for Whites to deal with a police or military force composed mainly of lazy stupid niggers than it is to deal with a majority White police/military force.

Also factor in the economic drain the muds are causing. We NEED a total economic collapse to have any chance of awakening a sizable number of Whites to fight. Think of Germany when Hitler rose to power. The economic conditions were appalling. Would Hitler have gained power if they weren't?

I wish you the best wherever you choose to make your stand. I believe you are sincere, not a jew. You're just disgusted with America which I can totally understand. But if you think it will be easier in Europe, I believe you are mistaken.

[Gabry Ponte]

Originally Posted by A.S.

You do raise some valid points. The situation in America is grim, no doubt about it. Plenty of race traitors, dirty cops, ignorant ZOG-bots, tons of mud, etc. I make no predictions about what will happen to America, perhaps Whites will be destroyed here...

...but I doubt it. We have a minority of informed, intelligent, and ARMED Whites who are annoyed with ZOG's abuse and lies. Not all think racially and few understand the jew, but they hate the gov't and have the potential to be educated and/or benefit our side in some way.

Our abundant supply of firearms is a major advantage. I don't see how more Whites + more racial awareness (debatable) in Europe can counter balance lack of weaponry.

In Europe, there are laws against "hate speech" and "holocaust denial". In America, you can (technically) still speak your mind. Yes, you will suffer in some way, but at least it's not as easy for ZOG to lock you up.

The huge amount of mud swarming into America is good in one way: it weakens ZOG, because ZOG relies heavily on competent Whites to keep functioning as an effective engine of tyranny and oppression. For example, it is much easier for Whites to deal with a police or military force composed mainly of lazy stupid niggers than it is to deal with a majority White police/military force.

Also factor in the economic drain the muds are causing. We NEED a total economic collapse to have any chance of awakening a sizable number of Whites to fight. Think of Germany when Hitler rose to power. The economic conditions were appalling. Would Hitler have gained power if they weren't?

I wish you the best wherever you choose to make your stand. I believe you are sincere, not a jew. You're just disgusted with America which I can totally understand. But if you think it will be easier in Europe, I believe you are mistaken.

I am not sure that even WN with guns will use them. I am sure they won't use them now. Maybe if a mud breaks into their home ok. But I don't think they will use them against ZOG. In SA and Brazil what usually happens is the whites that see the picture will move into gated/guarded exclusive white neighborhoods. Niggers don't come in there. And life is somewhat safe. But going out of the neighborhood to the hospital or other place is dangerous. And the government is anti white. So even if niggers attack you and you defend yourself they will get you in the court system.

Europe will be ok only if a Nationalist party gains majority.

[Igor Alexander]

Originally Posted by Gabry Ponte

Most people here have never been to Europe. Most Americans think America is #1. So even if the USA becomes just like SA they will never leave. I don't even try to educate them anymore. You just have to let them go.

I've spent what altogether amounts to a few years in Europe throughout my life, mostly in Switzerland and France, and both my parents were born on that continent. My general feeling is that Europe is a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. I don't consider myself European and even at 5 or 6 years of age had trouble relating to some of the mindsets that are common there.

My recollections of living in Switzerland as a child is that it's an intensely class-conscious society (to an extent most Americans couldn't even fathom) and that despite much talk to the contrary, that it places little importance on personal freedom; when you hear someone like Jurgen Graf say that he feels no enmity whatsoever towards the Swiss government for trying to put him in prison because hey, it's only doing its job, that is a typically SWISS mindset.

Have you ever had a Joe Sixpack run up to you and give you a lecture because they just witnessed you jaywalking? No? Well, it would happen to you if you jaywalked in Switzerland. I doubt very sincerely that anyone who grew up in the U.S., Canada, or Australia would find much happiness if they relocated permanently to Europe, and I honestly have to wonder if WNs who adulate the Europeans have really spent much time over there.

If you're against socialism or espouse any libertarian ideals, then please, do not move to Europe; they will look at you there as though you were from another planet. It doesn't surprise me that neo-cons have been elected all over Europe because a lot of Europeans have had it with "traditional" European values and want to be more like the U.S. All you Eurosnobs ought to think about that. Americans dream of being European while Europeans dream of being American. The grass is always greener...

Would I leave North America if things got as bad as in SA? Well, yeah. But we're not there yet. Not even close.

[Bernie]

Originally Posted by Igor Alexander

Would I leave North America if things got as bad as in SA? Well, yeah. But we're not there yet. Not even close.

A good summation of the situation. I've been in Switzerland twice, a beautiful place but after living in Australia, I couldn't stand living there. I was born in Germany but luckily escaped the de-Nazification brainwashing of my immediate post war generation. Most Germans my age were completely ruined by that. No sense of pride, of being German. I'm sorry to say it, but most are idiots.