Male-Female Friendships

[keifer]

Originally Posted by Steven L. Akins

No one is advocating promiscuity, just stating a fact: Too much of the same thing becomes tiresome and familiarity breeds contempt.

.....actually, ...now that you mention it...

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by Andersson

Not everyone has your standard of beauty... beauty is subjective. There are very few universal rules(such as attraction to your own race, which is being brainwashed away sadly), but the majority of people have their own preferences that don't have to be anything like yours.

Like I said, not everyone wants to put up with the hassel of trying to get what they really want, and they take the easy way out by settling for a fat chick, an older woman, or one of a different race. It isn't because that is what they really want; it's just a whole lot easier to settle for something less. Very few people in this world get exactly what they want in a mate, and if they manage to; its only temporary.

But pleasures are like poppies spread,
You sieze the flower, its bloom is shed;
Or like the snow falls in the river,
A moment white--then melts for ever;
Or like the borealis race,
That flit ere you can point their place;
Or like the rainbow's lovely form
Evanishing amid the storm.--

Robert Burns

[Steve B]

Originally Posted by MikeTodd

The weird thing is that they truly believe their own lies...like niggers.
Maybe John Lennon was on to sump'n.

That's all women, or niggers for that matter, really have is lies and manipulation. I mean it's not as if they can do rocket science, or invent an internal combustion engine or hit a baseball 400 feet. They're chicks, they're weak and stupid.

This female, Andersson, if in fact she is truly a woman, has already admitted she pretty much screwed her current bf around early in the relationship but that she isn't going to do that anymore because now she's "serious".

Current bf is in for a rude awakening when somebody that she perceives as a better catch comes along.

[Andersson]

Originally Posted by Steve B

This female, Andersson, if in fact she is truly a woman, has already admitted she pretty much screwed her current bf around early in the relationship but that she isn't going to do that anymore because now she's "serious".

It's cute how you're assuming things, because you actually don't know what happened... we both fucked up, a lot. And you don't know either of us, so who are you to judge that our relationship isn't serious? I'd take my own life for him, and I mean this completely seriously.

You don't have to believe me, but that doesn't change the fact that it's true.

Current bf is in for a rude awakening when somebody that she perceives as a better catch comes along.

I'm not a selfish whore... I've had chances to have men with more money or men that are "thinner, more good-looking"(by society's standards), and I've said no. I don't want to be with anyone besides my current boyfriend. It's something a heartless person like yourself wouldn't really understand.

[Steve B]

Originally Posted by Andersson

I'm not a selfish whore... I've had chances to have men with more money or men that are "thinner, more good-looking"(by society's standards), and I've said no. I don't want to be with anyone besides my current boyfriend. It's something a heartless person like yourself wouldn't really understand.

By your own admission you're a big fat tubbo so saying you have had chances with guys who have more money and are better looking than current bf is a lie, isn't it?

[The Barrenness]

I have had more male friends than females throughout my life and for the most part it is difficult. Not so much because males and females are different but because of the sex and jealousy factors. Strangely and perhaps inappropriately enough, the only time it might work better would be if both the male and female were in happy committed relationships, where even if they did kind of like the other person they would be stopped by their relationship or marriage. (yeah, I realize there is a halfway decent chance something could end up happening) In other circumstances it almost always seems to happen that one of the friends will end up liking the other and if the other does not feel the same way, the friendship is pretty much going to be over. Even if this doesn't happen, there can still be some resentment (why doesn't he or she seem to be attracted to me,etc)or jealousy(why is he hanging out with his new girlfriend/boyfriend all of the time rather than me?). Of course the last one can happen in same sex friendships as well.

Female-female or male-male friendships have some major issues too, though, like the constant need to compete

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by The Barrenness

I have had more male friends than females throughout my life and for the most part it is difficult. Not so much because males and females are different but because of the sex and jealousy factors. Strangely and perhaps inappropriately enough, the only time it might work better would be if both the male and female were in happy committed relationships, where even if they did kind of like the other person they would be stopped by their relationship or marriage. (yeah, I realize there is a halfway decent chance something could end up happening) In other circumstances it almost always seems to happen that one of the friends will end up liking the other and if the other does not feel the same way, the friendship is pretty much going to be over. Even if this doesn't happen, there can still be some resentment (why doesn't he or she seem to be attracted to me,etc)or jealousy(why is he hanging out with his new girlfriend/boyfriend all of the time rather than me?). Of course the last one can happen in same sex friendships as well.

Female-female or male-male friendships have some major issues too, though, like the constant need to compete

That has been my experience as well, as I mentioned earlier in the second post of this thread:

I think most male-female "friendships" happen because one of the two is attracted to the other, thus it becomes sexually based, even if nothing happens between them because one person isn't attracted to the other on the same level. If the attraction is mutual, then it goes beyond friendship and crosses the sexual threshold. After that, possessiveness is going to become an issue, with one of the two either wanting to possess the other, or be possesssed by the other. If the sex is simply a matter of convenience and opportunity rather than a matter of attraction, then someone always ends up getting let down, and the "friendship" generally fizzels out.

I think it is rare to find a male-femal friendship where both people find each other mutually unattractive and one wouldn't at least consider having sex with the other if the opportunity ever arose.

[Steve B]

Originally Posted by The Barrenness

I have had more male friends than females throughout my life and for the most part it is difficult. Not so much because males and females are different but because of the sex and jealousy factors.

That probably didn't come out the way you intended. I think what you're saying is that your male friends get jealous because they are of the opposite sex from you and not because you are having sex with all your male friends.

[Swede]

Originally Posted by MikeTodd

The weird thing is that they truly believe their own lies...like niggers.
Maybe John Lennon was on to sump'n.

Yeah, a schoolbook example of it.

[ray bateson]

Originally Posted by Andersson

I'm pretty disgusted by the fact that there's white men talking about women like objects or servants...

Originally Posted by Andersson

If you understood the concept of love...

Originally Posted by Steve B

Most women...have a steady boyfriend or husband that they have sex with and that they are faithful to. In addition to mainguy, women usually string along another 2 or 3 guys as backup in case main guy doesn't work out. They usually don't have sex with backup guy but give him enough flirting or batting of eyes to keep him interested. And back up guys are interchangeable. One leaves the backup group , for whatever reason, and another backup takes his place.

Women do not "love" in the real sense, they are incapable of it, for if a woman really and truly loved a man there wouldn't be any backup guys. What women call love basically boils down to what can you do for me and what have you done for me lately.

Originally Posted by Andersson

I guess I did have 'backup guys', but then I realized that I really do love my boyfriend

...

Wow. So bitches really are soulless succubi and objectifiers of men. Thanks, mister B. I'm impressed.

[John Shepard]

"Some of them have wives and girlfriends so I bet the feeling is mutual."

They're just keeping their options open.

Thats what the interaction with you is all about.

Sure its all on the level friendship now but if down the road things start to get shakey in your relationship and theirs at the same time you could conceivably end up in bed with one of your guy "friends" even if you don't think you're attracted to them now.

The reason that is, is because you women are emotional creatures and when in need of emotional comfort you can do some pretty wild and outlandish things in order to get said "comfort".

Things you perhaps wouldn't do under normal happy and contented circumstances.

[Andersson]

Originally Posted by Steve B

By your own admission you're a big fat tubbo so saying you have had chances with guys who have more money and are better looking than current bf is a lie, isn't it?

No, it's just that every guy doesn't like the same kind of women as you. My ex was a thin(ugly, though) Nord from a rich family, before we were even together he said he liked women with meat on their bones, but I hate him because he treated me like shit.

My current relationship is the only one that's really made me feel 'special', the only time I've ever actually felt love towards someone. Two guys have shown interest in me, both were what society thinks is attractive, but I honestly didn't. One had a bit more money, which he THOUGHT would make me like him back but it didn't. One didn't have as much money but promised me that he'd buy me things, which didn't make him like me either because 1. I'm capable of buying my own things, 2. I'm in a serious goddamn relationship.

The reason men think women will go for them if they promise them money is because men think that's what women want, and it's only what selfish whores incapable of love want. I'd be with my boyfriend even if it meant living in a cardboard box begging for change everyday.

I personally am capable of love and ALWAYS put my loved ones before me, at any price. Whether it's my family or my boyfriend, their needs go before mine.

But I guess you don't believe that because HURR DURR SHE'S A WOMAN, she can't possibly not be an exact copy of every other female on Earth.

[Andersson]

Originally Posted by John Shepard

"Some of them have wives and girlfriends so I bet the feeling is mutual."

They're just keeping their options open.

So it's okay if a guy does it, but bad if a girl does it?

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by Andersson

So it's okay if a guy does it, but bad if a girl does it?

It's bad if girls do a lot of things that guys do. Certain behaviors are masculine and shouldn't be adopted by women. It makes you less feminine if you start acting the way guys do.

[Andersson]

Originally Posted by Steven L. Akins

It's bad if girls do a lot of things that guys do. Certain behaviors are masculine and shouldn't be adopted by women. It makes you less feminine if you start acting the way guys do.

Yes, but there's certain things that are disgusting if either gender does it. Like having sex with too many people or cheating on your partner.

[Max_]

Based on observation and personal experience... no.

Acquaintances at best.

Outside of the obvious sexual attraction stuff, the personalities differ too much.

[Mr William Celt]

It's generally only possible when the male is not attracted whatsoever to the female, which is rare. But as always, there are exceptions.

[Lagergeld]

Besides the apparent trolling from banned members here, I think the idea of male/female friendship is garbage. Such relationships are fragile if nothing else because one will probably become attracted to the other, thus the friendship changes in one manner or another, and in one way or another isn't a friendship anymore.

It changes everything.

[Sanngridr]

Wow, this is hilarious

I never have female friends. I have one; other women I know are aquaintences. Friends I have are male. Surprisingly for those of you who just jerk of to Victorias Secret and scream TITTIES all day at your computer screens, there is more to attraction and relationships than, well, attraction. Chemicals are *the* important thing and either you're a match, or you aren't. If you have a good mental match and no chemical match, well, then you're friends and would never want it to go further.

Honestly, I have to wonder if any of you have family members of the opposite sex? Siblings? Cousins? You don't fuck *them* and yet you, optimally get along, share lives and commonalities, can have friendships and strong bonds... with absolutely no romance. There are different factors to the chemical matching, genetics is one and the other is immune system. Your family belongs to the same groupings, so they're a bad match. Anyone close or similar to family would be treated in the same way by your brain. While accepted as part of your clan (family) they are not breedable, turning them into a non-related family member, or a FRIEND.

Bloody hell. One would think this place is circle jerked by a bunch of 4chan fifteen year old boys

[Michael Ross]

Originally Posted by Sanngridr

Honestly, I have to wonder if any of you have family members of the opposite sex? Siblings? Cousins? You don't fuck *them* and yet you, optimally get along, share lives and commonalities, can have friendships and strong bonds... with absolutely no romance.

*bangs head against the wall*

Reading that really made me cringe, you did a great job of totally ignoring the huge biological difference between family and friend. Thus, your argument is invalid.

You clearly have no idea about how males think and instinctively act, I'm guessing you're a woman. Did it ever occur to you that males have very different instinctive attitudes than women, especially when it comes to sex?

The difference between family and friends is that if any female friend of mine who was remotely attractive wanted to have sex, I wouldn't turn her down. It's happened to me two times before, one of which was with a girl who I'd been close friends with since we were about 12 (we were 19 at the time), it wasn't at all awkward, at least for me, because I didn't give a shit about our social relations, all I cared about was that she was attractive and I was fucking her, and that's how males are hard-wired to instinctively think.

And please don't post some retarded response like "hurrrrr durrrr not all males think like that" because it would only add to the list of logical fallacies posted by you in this thread.

Thank you.