VNN vs. Stormfront: what are the differences?

[Sean O'Keith]

I notice that Kelso's missus has had her account made inactive at SF. Wonder what that's all about.

[General_Lee]

Originally Posted by Sean O'Keith

Nope, roos are a pest. It's hilarious, because they've taken to invading our nation's capital -- our Washington if you will -- and attacking people. They're actually having a cull, I do believe, where happy shooters will get to take out their rifles and get some much needed live practise.

Way off topic, I realize, but I wonder what kind of eating would a free-range kangaroo make? Is there a hunting season on them?

[Sean O'Keith]

Originally Posted by General_Lee

Way off topic, I realize, but I wonder what kind of eating would a free-range kangaroo make? Is there a hunting season on them?

Dunno about seasons, but farmers are allowed to do what they have to do. There IS a season on these ones in Canberra I mentioned, because they're in plague numbers, and beating on humans, which is again hysterical. Canberra is where our nation's parliament and all the international embassies are located.
You know, I've eaten roo meat ... It's HIGH in protein, very tender, but if you don't get the right cut, it's an awful thing to swallow. I couldn't help thinking of Skippy with every mouthful I took. Frankly, it didn't seem right, and they don't tastefully package the meat: they shove it in the same kind of plastic wrapping they use for pet food, and you have to look twice to ensure you're buying people food. I should say, that's only if you're buying at a jew supermarket (and let's face it, they all are).
But to be fair, as I said, it's very lean, full of protein, and not that much dissimilar from, say, lamb. Free range would be the ideal, I reckon.

I love animals, but fuck, I love to shoot a roo.

[Crowe]

Stormfront is what I call the gutter of White Nationalism. Its a website created for the purpose of 1 man's profits. They aren't about getting the message out or doing anything productive.

And I heard from Jack Boot himself that Stormfront is a company, but the problem is they are a company under false pretenses, and lead some to believe they are a non-profit organization that just seeks to further the White cause. Which is absolutely false. Their website is disingenuous, and I got no respect from the ones who seek to profit from the movement.

And if I ever met Don Black, I'd tell him to his face that he is a worthless sack of shit that only seeks to profit from the movement.

[Angel Ramsey]

They're like $9,000 in the hole this year, since Feb. Where's the money coming from? Don Black's wife's *cough, David Dukes ex* wife's pocket? Who knows. It's all a scam.

[Max_]

Stormfront:

Pros - lots of people to talk to, less tolerance for nonwhites and race mixers, crazies, oddballs, discussions are expected to be civil - at least for the most part etc.

Cons - less freedom of speech, can be a little bit cliquey in some parts, and some mods are a little bit trigger happy with banning and disabling accounts, though generally speaking, the mods are pretty good at what they do.

The subscription thing is a non issue in my book. You don't have to pay anything if you don't want to.

VNN:

Pros - big on freedom of speech, way more tolerant of nonwhites, race mixers, crazies and oddballs allowing them to say whats on their mind - for better or for worse.

Cons: Smaller pool of posters and a bit cliquey at times.

As far as talking to White Nationalists is concerned, both forums serve their intended purpose.

For non-Whites, they will probably get more freedom to voice their opinions on VNN, but will also be more likely abused with more colourful language by the posters themselves due to the more relaxed posting rules. On Stormfront, they will probably find it a little harder to voice their opinions due to stricter moderation, but also by virtue of this stricter moderation, won't find themselves verbally abused as much.

My advice to nonwhites posting on stormfront is this:

Keep all posts and/or new threads specific to the subject of white nationalism, criticism or support. If you move too far from this you could find your thread shut down, your comment or even your account deleted, but not before being called a troll.

There's a good reason for this though, White Nationalism is about white countries for White people, and threads in opposing views questioning the number of testicles adolf hitler had, or whether or not hitler was gay, or whether or not hitler was jewish or an alien or whatever, really isn't too much of a central issue to White Nationalism.

If non-Whites want to talk/argue about other stuff then VNN would probably be their better option.

[Mr A.Anderson]

About $89,000 a year in costs.

VNN costs $1,000 a year to operate. Stormfront (and the radio show that broadcasts to a Hatian audience) costs $90,000 a year.

Oh, and Alex doesn't forget how much he's had to pay out of pocket "to keep the show going" from month to month, and what the money was originally intended for.

Don Black isn't even a good liar.

Originally posted by Don Black 6/16/12

I find it annoying, too. I'm sick of begging to keep this place going, just to have my family and me called scammers by the toxic waste crowd.

I appreciate those who contribute. We just threw in $800 of our own money to keep this show on the road a little longer, plus $2500 for a related legal matter (which we should have used to pay down credit card debt), but there isn't any more. Maybe one of the the people here who knows just how to do it can take over.

The idea of downsizing is deeply depressing to me, but I guess I'll just have to be deeply depressed.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t611.../#post10349361

Originally Posted by Don Black 7/21/12
As shown by the thermometer graphs below, we've reached our goal only once in the past five months, and this is the slowest month yet.

Last month, rather than beg, I made up the shortfall with $950 of our own money to keep the servers running another month, plus $2500 for a related legal expense. This was money we had planned to spend on our leaky roof.
This month is different. This is not only our slowest month, but I'm broke, and my credit is now shot to hell. In addition to everything else, this month I had to take an ambulance ride to the hospital for a two-week "vacation." I'm OK now health-wise, but the medical bills, even after insurance, are huge.

Contrary to statements made by toxoids on other, tiny boards, we do not live in a Palm Beach mansion and drive Cadillacs. Our old house is in bad need of repair we can't afford (even though our personal household income is decent), built on land bought by my wife's grandfather at the turn of the last century. And we drive old cars, the most reliable having 230,000 miles on it.

So the next week will be critical. I must decide whether or not to downsize servers by the 28th.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t860.../#post10447408

[DeanSanders]

Originally Posted by Mr A.Anderson

About $89,000 a year in costs.

VNN costs $1,000 a year to operate. Stormfront (and the radio show that broadcasts to a Hatian audience) costs $90,000 a year.

Oh, and Alex doesn't forget how much he's had to pay out of pocket "to keep the show going" from month to month, and what the money was originally intended for.

Don Black isn't even a good liar.

He doesn't have to be a good liar, he lets his minions like Al Kelz, WolfsCompass, Cybersaavy(hi Gil), ss_waffen, and all his faggot cheerleaders, etc do all his talking for him. All Don the Con has to do is accept the payments and run off with the money. Those idiots have been paying him off for years under the guise of the movement. While you idiots toil and suffer to make donations, he is laughing at and using you. Morons.

[SmokyMtn]

VNN vs. Stormfront, the difference?

Easy....

Stormfront has members who want to be active with others, but have not a clue as to what White Nationalism consists of or where they are going.

VNN, on the other hand, has many members who get it, but do not want to be active with others.

[Mr A.Anderson]

Originally Posted by Sean O'Keith

I notice that Kelso's missus has had her account made inactive at SF. Wonder what that's all about.

Donations were down, and the SF Nationalists were looking for somebody to blaim. A member concocted a story about him recieving PM's on SF for a fund raising effort on WNN, when actually - he's a member of WNN also and recieved a PM there (just as every WNN member recieves). But, like I said - funds have been low this year for Master Don, so it sounded good at the moment to blame their woes on Linda and WNN for attempting to "steal" members (and their donations) from SF.

That was, Oh gee, 4 months ago? I see that the fundraising efforts haven't improved any - so I guess they were WRONG about that, as well.

So, in typical SF Fashion, the Tin Foil Hat wearing SF Nationalists ganged up on Linda, took her SM status, continued to berate her in an SM thread - then loudly exclaimed that she wouldn't respond (AFTER her SM was yanked mind you) to their accusations. Then she was banned, along with Jamie himself.

Shortly after the banning, after donations didn't improve yet again, the same tin foil hats started blaming a member that had been banned for months of causing problems, and that everything was his fault, then one of his friend's fault.

See a pattern here?

[Donnie in Ohio]

Originally Posted by Max_

VNN:

Pros - big on freedom of speech, way more tolerant of nonwhites, race mixers, crazies and oddballs allowing them to say whats on their mind - for better or for worse.

Cons: Smaller pool of posters and a bit cliquey at times.

Yeah, the forum has gotten just a little "Alex Jones-ish" of late.

I don't see any cliques, unless you're referencing the handful of Stormfront ex-pat conspiracy-theory retards that now post heer.

[Alex Linder]

Is Dinky Don the Sugarman who scares little kids with his Frankensteinlike presence insulting toxoids again? Hey, Donger: what is more toxic than sugar to the white man's body? Damn near nothing. White sugar ahead of white people, eh Donger?

Look how vain he is too - and I will accept corrections if my facts are wrong.

The bulk of his costs are his and his son's vanity AM radio program. But he won't drop that, he'll reduce the server power feeding his gigantic community of aphids.

Hey. I just noticed VNN servers are running faster than ever, thanks Varg!

And no, that is not an invitation to SF people to come here. We'll admit you. But you're really not our kind of people, Frankly. Try Kelso's outfit, Up Up with (White) People.

VNN is for adults. Not albino sugar babies.

[M.N. Dalvez]

Way off topic, I realize, but I wonder what kind of eating would a free-range kangaroo make?

It's pretty good if it's not infested with diseases and parasites, which wild 'roos often are. The farmed stuff is better.

[Darius Appleby]

Originally Posted by M.N. Dalvez

It's pretty good if it's not infested with diseases and parasites, which wild 'roos often are. The farmed stuff is better.

As if this gimp has ever been to Australia.

This troll named itself after a troll and is nothing but a troll.

[M.N. Dalvez]

As if this gimp has ever been to Australia.

This troll named itself after a troll and is nothing but a troll.

That's not true, Abboby. Look, I've even seen your music video!

Noongah - Out Da Front (Official Video) - YouTube

Noongah - Out Da Front (Official Video) - YouTube

In case you non-Aussies are wondering, Darius is the guy under the pile of newspapers at the start of the video!

PS: Despite my spic-sounding and totally not fictitious name, I am from Australia - from the city in Darius' video clip, in fact. Actually, Darius likes to sleep by the bins at the back of the place I work at, so I see him quite a bit when I'm shooing the smelly bastard away so he doesn't scare all our human customers away.

[Jason 916]

[M.N. Dalvez]

On the actual topic of this thread...

I began posting at SF in 2001 or 2002, I think. And the two people I remember from SF who actually gave me substantive information about WN, what it is, why it needs to be, etc... were Muad'dib, and 'No 1965 Chain Immigrants', better known as Craig Cobb or 'Chain' from this very forum.

The rest, for the most part, were of pretty low quality. There were a few intelligent and non-delusional members, but most were a waste of time.

I see that both Muad'Dib and Chain have been banned from SF for years, and I can't help but see a connection between that, and the fall in the quality of the discourse there.

[Mr A.Anderson]

Well, one major difference, I'd say, is that Stormfront considers this guy White.

Originally Posted by Entity07
I am under 6 percent Middle Eastern i.e. Jewish origin. Most of my ancestry is English and Scottish.

Originally Posted by Entity07
A six percent quantum of Jewish ancestry would imply that I am about 1/16th Jewish.

I myself think that 1/16 is quite removed, but is a matter of opinion I suppose. And as you rightly say there must be a lot of others on this board, not to mention those in everyday society who have a small admixture of Jewish blood, whether aware or not. Moreover, as I've mentioned in past writings, white and Jewish intermarriage seems to have dramatically increased in modern times in the western world compared to the 19th century. My concern is encourage whites to mate with other whites of majority white ancestry, and wholly white wherever possible.

However though we all want the best elements of our race to survive, we have to balance idealism with pragmatism, and realise that accepting people of good will who meet most of the criteria for being white should not be excluded.

I still would prefer a fully Ayran woman however..
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t901455/

Of course you would prefer a full Aryan woman......so that you could defile her, and create more mongrelized children! WTF is WRONG with these people????????????????????

I'm sure the Heeb will be the next SM/Lifetime member.

[Crowe]

Anyone notice how the ones who DARES question the $7500/month quota, gets received by the local group of kosher commandos in a similar manner a Jew would against someone who denies the holocaust?

One thing Stormfront doesn't have is transparency. Oy Vey! Did they have the nerve to say we should cut the radio station? And ask why so much is needed for legal fees!?

Here is Don's latest pissing and moaning about donations:

Don Black
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Default Re: Contributions in July
Thanks to all who have selflessly contributed to keep an increasingly expensive Stormfront going all these years. Perhaps I've been too ambitious, though.

Our enemies easily raise millions a month from their contributors, paying their staff six figure salaries, and, while getting plenty of free favorable publicity from the mainstream media, get only a fraction of our website traffic (see graph in first post). But we can't raise $7500 a month for basic expenses.

As shown by the thermometer graphs, we've reached our goal only once in the past five months, and this is the slowest month yet.

Last month, rather than beg, I made up the shortfall with $950 of our own money to keep the servers running another month, plus $2500 for a related legal expense. This was money we had planned to spend on our leaky roof.

This month is different. This is not only our slowest month, but I'm broke, and my credit is now shot to hell. In addition to everything else, this month I had to take an ambulance ride to the hospital for a two-week "vacation." I'm OK now health-wise, but the medical bills, even after insurance, are huge.

Contrary to statements made by toxoids on other, tiny boards, we do not live in a Palm Beach mansion and drive Cadillacs. Our old house is in bad need of repair we can't afford (even though our personal household income is decent), built on land bought by my wife's grandfather at the turn of the last century. And we drive old cars, the most reliable having 230,000 miles on it.

So the next week will be critical. I must decide whether or not to downsize servers by the 28th.

Don can go cry me a fucking river. Times can't be too hard for him considering his wife Chloe works for the Cuban Fanjul family and makes a 6 figure salary in a program that integrates non-Whites into America. And he wants to try and tell me he is living "hard times"? I was born in the day, but it wasn't fucking yesterday. Nobody that has a household income in the 6 figures is living "hard times". If he wants to know who is living "hard times" I can show him some White families living up in Appalachia, who really are living HARD times.

[Alex Linder]

No one answered:

Is it not true that the bulk of the 7500 is for radio expenses?

If so, what exactly is the value in the radio they do? What are they doing, and what kind of response is it getting?