VNN vs. Stormfront: what are the differences?

[MikeTodd]

OK, I'll bite.
What are sand shoes?

[MikeTodd]

never mind. Googled it.

[M.N. Dalvez]

The other big demographic over at SF is probably ex-cons who belonged to some Aryan Brotherhood type gang when they were in prison.

Say what you will about the AB (and there's a lot to say), can you say YOU wouldn't join such a group if you were thrown into the kind of jails you have in America's South, where you live? Nope, let me guess, the mighty Hibernian chieftain Akins o' tha' Ilk would ne'er associate himself with such unsavoury types, right?

I am no SF fan (been there, done that, got the t-shirt, don't want to discuss it endlessly) but they had a wider demographic base than you seem to want to admit. It's not all CI froth-brains and ex-cons.

[Donnie in Ohio]

Originally Posted by James K Jones

Not really.

Do tell.

Say Linder declares that VNN is against sand shoes. Most folks acknowledge that and accept it as how things are.

Alex is a known anti. Anti-cobbler, that is.

On the other hand, there is a small minority of posters who constantly harp on about sand shoes.

Bastards! That never happens heer, btw. No obsessives at all on VNNF. Nope. These aren't the droids you're looking for.

Instead of dealing with the posters, what happens is that their threads are subtly purged.

I see.

Simple enough for you?

Quite. Black doesn't ban posters you don't like, ergo Stormfront is "going soft" on Jews/Homosexuals/Assorted footwear, etc.

[Crowe]

Originally Posted by M.N. Dalvez

Say what you will about the AB (and there's a lot to say), can you say YOU wouldn't join such a group if you were thrown into the kind of jails you have in America's South, where you live? Nope, let me guess, the mighty Hibernian chieftain Akins o' tha' Ilk would ne'er associate himself with such unsavoury types, right?

I am no SF fan (been there, done that, got the t-shirt, don't want to discuss it endlessly) but they had a wider demographic base than you seem to want to admit. It's not all CI froth-brains and ex-cons.

If I was thrown in Prison in a multicultural place, I'm with whoever the White guys are. How they live in prison makes no difference, and its not like I am going to live and adopt their ideals outside of prison. Prison is about survival, and if the AB is the only way you can keep a bunch of niggers from riding you like a seaside donkey, then its basic common sense to join them in prison. Because being the "lone" White dude, is the White dude that gets butt fucked by a group of shitskins.

[James K Jones]

Originally Posted by Doggie in Ohio

Do tell.



Alex is a known anti. Anti-cobbler, that is.



Bastards! That never happens heer, btw. No obsessives at all on VNNF. Nope. These aren't the droids you're looking for.



I see.



Quite. Black doesn't ban posters you don't like, ergo Stormfront is "going soft" on Jews/Homosexuals/Assorted footwear, etc.

That was near on the worst set of replies I have seen. I dare say that I shall enjoy toying with you.

[Donnie in Ohio]

Originally Posted by James K Jones

That was near on the worst set of replies I have seen.

Because it didn't mention sand shoes?

I dare say that I shall enjoy toying with you.

I say the same thing to my Hemi 'Cuda.

[James K Jones]

Originally Posted by Doggie in Ohio

Because it didn't mention sand shoes?



I say the same thing to my Hemi 'Cuda.

What treats do you get from Ann for performing tricks?

[Donnie in Ohio]

Originally Posted by James K Jones

What treats do you get from Ann for performing tricks?

Sand shoes.

Shouldn't you be somewhere demanding that Don Black ban posters on his own board that you don't like?

[Hans Norling]

Originally Posted by Steven L. Akins

Maybe I'm being paranoid, but it just seems like there is more going on than meets the eye. I don't trust anyone, not even you.

Humans are hardwired to believe or suspect things, which we can not really see, hear, smell or touch, to be. Clearly, it goes overboard often enough as the given person can't discern between critical thinking and running with made-up nonsense that caters to his/her hysteria or addiction to sensationalism.

[Mr A.Anderson]

A bit out of order, but this will be easier.

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

Is christian IDENTITY really that big at SF?

No, it isn't.

Originally Posted by Ann2

Yeah, your type would just shoot their pet instead of doing the white thing by taking it to a vet.

He was hit by a car, and somehow drug his broken body back home. The nearest vet is 30 minutes away - and the nearest emergency vet is about 45 minutes away. I was NOT going to let my outside adopted stray suffer that long. A bullet to the head, and a decent burial was much more compassionate, woman.

Originally Posted by Ann2

You also sound like a whiny woman throwing the fat word around. You can't even be honest about that.

So, you're not a fat old woman?

Originally Posted by Ann2

It also puzzles me why baking seems to set you off. OMG! A white woman doing things like baking! The HORROR! Your wife should give it a try instead of getting drunk every night. But that's right, she claims you're abusive towards her, so that may explain her infidelity and drinking problem. PLEASE ask me to link it.

That's because I'm jealous - I can't bake for shit. And you always throw it in my face - all the things you baked today. Seems that's your most common topic. Mighty White.

Originally Posted by Ann2

As far as the homo policy, it's always been there. You were hardly the pioneer of that one. Your real gripe is they didn't get rid of people when you demanded it.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t848335/
Created 11/26/2011. Yup, that is ALWAYS alright. Woman, if you don't think for one second that SAIQ wasn't the driving force behind the creation of that policy, you are INSANE. Hell, YOU, ACS, and TAT were all celebrating the creation of that with the rest of us! As for the tired old "they didn't get rid of people when you demanded it." get a new line, would you? Actually, YES, they DID get rid of the only 2 people when I demanded it. One nigger in the OV who was obsessed with masturbating to Fading Light's avatar, and Wessex after he said he wanted to rape my 7 year old daughter. I believe my exact words were "Ban that fucking troll!" As to the rest, I never demanded shit, just presented the evidence......and what do you know, the mods banned them! In fact, I think *I* have damned near a perfect record in that department.

Originally Posted by Ann2

When I said you should show how to do it, I mean actually DOING it. You know, starting a website yourself. Show us all how it's really done instead of just spouting off. Put your money where your mouth is.

You are a twat, really. Just in case you didn't know.

Originally Posted by Ann2

As far as fucking off...I'll leave that to your wife. She's a real pro at that.

Of course - we do have 5 racially aware children - how do you think they were made? The fucking stork brought em?


The last two, I will tie together, as they are actually somewhat serious.

Originally Posted by Donnie in Ohio

Quite. Black doesn't ban posters you don't like, ergo Stormfront is "going soft" on Jews/Homosexuals/Assorted footwear, etc.

It's not about whether we like a person or not, it's pure failure to enforce their guidelines. See below for examples.

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

I agree, but what specific rules are SF mods not enforcing?

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t579652/ Who Is White. "Non-Jewish people of wholly European descent. No exceptions."

If someone were to say that they were 12.5% Amerindian then, as far as we're concerned, that's what they are, 1/8th non-White. This is something about which we can't compromise. You're either White or you aren't.

MoJoe is an admitted wagon burner. Don forgave him of this because he donated nearly $800 and had almost 1900 good posts. Makes him OK in his book. Dean quoted it here: http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php...7&postcount=78

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t579652/
We are pan-European in our views and stand unconditionally opposed to conflicts between White peoples.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t324816/
Is the content of your post against other White nationality? That’s against the guidelines. Do not attack other White nationalities, no matter the opinion you may have about them.

This is completely lost upon SF Britian as the recent Polish immagration policies of their country - and the resulting tensions - have resulted in many UK members blasting Poles as an ethnicity. Thread after thread after thread has been dedicated to Pole and Slav bashing. Some of the UK members bitch more about Poles than the effing muslims in their country. No matter your particular stance on the subject, it is clearly against the guidelines to do so. The mods completely ignore this.

The tensions between the Croats and Serbs is another example. SF is RIFE with white ethnicities attacking others. NOTHING is done about it.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t324816/
Does your post contain any profanity or racial epithets? If so, don’t post it, or delete those words that break the guidelines. You don’t need to use racial epithets or profanity to discuss any issue, and remember that the forum is browsed by minors too.

Stormfront has a profanity filter, where it will "****" out particular words. Of course, many people will bypass this filter by using special characters. Examples: $hit, sh!t, Fvck, etc. There are people that recieve several warnings, infractions, and time outs for doing so, and others do not. An example of the spotty enforcement would be Fading Light - who very publicly wondered where and when this policy became in effect after she recieved a warning for "starring out" the naughty words, as she had been doing regularly for over a year, and never knew that it was wrong. Meanwhile, my wife got an infraction for using the acronym WTF?

And finally, the Homos.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t848335/

Homo threads are difficult to find on SF, becuase they are constantly deleted. "Nothing to see here" type of mentality. It was such a problem, admin FINALLY made a policy about it. The homo agenda promoters, however, still remain, just all the threads where their propaganda has been debunked time and time again have been deleted. What's the point of deleting all the evidence, all the counter points to the fags' arguments, if you are going to let the fags remain?

Here's an example of one that didn't get deleted (amazingly), by SF's favorite deviant, WinterSun. http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t845833-10/ She was actually arguing with a mod about homo's being good and OK. So, once again, SAIQ wasn't the only one that questioned WinterScum's ideologies. FYI - she continued posting her drivel there until Apri of 2012 when she finally requested her account be closed.

There are too many examples to list, but here's some of the latest:

ShyWhiteKitty on the gay "kiss in" scheduled for Aug. 3 to protest Chik-fil-A

Originally Posted by ShyWhiteKitty
...Eeeeek, I never thought of it like that! How horrible! I've defended gays for quite a while but man with how they act it gets harder and harder to. I feel so frustrated, like, "I'm trying to stand up for you guys, why do you keep digging yourselves deeper?! I'm trying to help you but you refuse to work with me!!" Uuuugh...

Originally Posted by LiberateMexicali
I don't entirely agree, definitely not in every case, though I generally have considerable disdain for liberals.

For example, in nature there is no shame in homosexuality. Perfectly heterosexual male dogs who father AKC champion pups have no shame in humping other males till a female is available. Greeks and Romans seemed to have no shame in homosexuality while guys hang out together, with the understanding most would eventually go back to women to procreate (and someone wouldn't and that was OK too.)

So from that perspective alone, a liberal society where males who choose to get sexual with males (thought alone gives me the heebee jeebees) are treated as equals and face no persecution, is more "natural", i.e. mimics nature, than an ultra-right society where such males are persecuted.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t901509/#post10445222

Originally posted by ShyWhiteKitty
Ehhh...as long as they don't parade them around or take them to any weird pride festivals, I don't really mind so much. Two male black swans or mallards will often raise young together without a female, so I don't really see the problem with humans doing the same as humans are animals...

The problem is with how they treat their children...have these two done anything like that? It doesn't sound like it. Not bringing the child to shows because he's too young sounds perfectly responsible - not like that one couple who brought their two young daughters to a leather fair! Dear heavens that was horrific!

I guess the reason I don't see much of a problem with it is that I don't see humans as "separate" from animals...we are all animals so if two males of another species can raise children fine, why can't humans?

-braces myself for the wave of hate-

[DeanSanders]

Originally Posted by Mr A.Anderson

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t848335/
Created 11/26/2011. Yup, that is ALWAYS alright. Woman, if you don't think for one second that SAIQ wasn't the driving force behind the creation of that policy, you are INSANE. Hell, YOU, ACS, and TAT were all celebrating the creation of that with the rest of us! As for the tired old "they didn't get rid of people when you demanded it." get a new line, would you? Actually, YES, they DID get rid of the only 2 people when I demanded it. One nigger in the OV who was obsessed with masturbating to Fading Light's avatar, and Wessex after he said he wanted to rape my 7 year old daughter. I believe my exact words were "Ban that fucking troll!" As to the rest, I never demanded shit, just presented the evidence......and what do you know, the mods banned them! In fact, I think *I* have damned near a perfect record in that department.

I kinda remember that poster and her friends have a history of banding together and going on witchhunts for not liking someone. Nothing to do with WN beliefs or anything. Only because they didn't like them or felt slighted by them. They would bait them into getting into arguments and banned or badger them until they left. And now she said it was somehow wrong for you and your friends to expose homosexuals the supporters of homosexuals and other anti-whites?



That there is some funny shit. You can't make that shit up.

I don't know the lady other than what she posted here there and other sites. I have to ask what does it say about someone who constantly lets their life revolve around a website supposedly dedicated to WN but doesn't support the core beliefs of WN and just supports the website? To me it says I am a hobbyist and only here for the drama. It says I need my stormfront friends because without them my life is lonely and sad. Is she trying to fill an empty hole too? This one with food and online friends? I'm sorry I laughed before because that is just sad.

I said that place is full of dysfunction. It is like days of our lives meets the kkk on family guy and queer eye. What next? Is Oprah going to come out and tell us all to look under our chairs? And I thought Texas had it's hexes! I think it is time for me to make new account there make some nonsense supporting posts toss in a fiver grab me some popcorn! I could get rid of cable for five slicks a months get twice the entertainment and save a bundle! Instead of hating on Don Black maybe I should thank him for creating the first WN based realtime sitcom. No it's just all the more reason to hate on him.

[Waldman]

I will tell you the differences: Stormfront is infested by feminists, Third Reich haters and democracy prophets.
Then, they are completely unable (like all democratic people) to cope with opinions that are not theirs.
Finally, their moderators censor lots of things they dislike (especially their feminist moderators). SF people are trolls to our movement, handle them as such.

[Hans Norling]

Originally Posted by Waldman

SF people are trolls to our movement, handle them as such.

Don't be stupid, unless you can't help it.

[Waldman]

Originally Posted by Hans Norling

Don't be stupid, unless you can't help it.

Am I stupid? Tell me then how SF people are not trolling with their relentless talking about Jesus and endeavour of democracy and "equality between men and women"? If you are one of them, good for you, but you are in the wrong place to attack and smear.

[Crowe]

Originally Posted by Waldman

I will tell you the differences: Stormfront is infested by feminists, Third Reich haters and democracy prophets.
Then, they are completely unable (like all democratic people) to cope with opinions that are not theirs.
Finally, their moderators censor lots of things they dislike (especially their feminist moderators). SF people are trolls to our movement, handle them as such.

Its mostly the Convervatards who are latching onto the last strand of Democracy they think this country still has. In a way its pathetic because they are oblivious to the reality that ZOG isn't even a Democracy. What people think is a Democracy is only smoke and mirrors for controlled dissent.

And I'd like to see the feminists represent those views among a real group of Nationalist activists face to face, and see how far that gets them. They will be show the door faster than it will hit them in the ass on the way out.

[Mr A.Anderson]

Curious....... What do you consider "Feminist" about Stormfront? Any examples, or could you explain in greater detail beyond a label?

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by Mr A.Anderson

Curious....... What do you consider "Feminist" about Stormfront? Any examples, or could you explain in greater detail beyond a label?

I've noticed that they seem to be women-worshippers over at SF myself, which is largely the reason why I was banned, since I went against the status quo.

I think they are trying to affect the old Southern gentleman persona of the Civil War Era or something, as if today's women were in any way similar to those of that era.

Either that or they are just plain pussy-whipped guys trying to score brownie-points in a desperate bid to win feminine approval.

I suspect the latter is true and the former is their manner of doing it.

[Mr A.Anderson]

Originally Posted by Steven L. Akins

I've noticed that they seem to be women-worshippers over at SF myself, which is largely the reason why I was banned, since I went against the status quo.

I think they are trying to affect the old Southern gentleman persona of the Civil War Era or something, as if today's women were in any way similar to those of that era.

Either that or they are just plain pussy-whipped guys trying to score brownie-points in a desperate bid to win feminine approval.

I suspect the latter is true and the former is their manner of doing it.

How so, though? I realize that you may not have an example to clip and paste over, but could you paraphrase an example?

[James K Jones]

Originally Posted by Steven L. Akins

I've noticed that they seem to be women-worshippers over at SF myself, which is largely the reason why I was banned, since I went against the status quo.

I think they are trying to affect the old Southern gentleman persona of the Civil War Era or something, as if today's women were in any way similar to those of that era.

Either that or they are just plain pussy-whipped guys trying to score brownie-points in a desperate bid to win feminine approval.

I suspect the latter is true and the former is their manner of doing it.

You are a troll. No doubt.

If not, I would love to meet you in real time so that I could whip a nonce.