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Old July 27th, 2012   #1
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Lightbulb Cosmotheism

If the White race is to survive, it as a people need a vision a sense of itself as a unit, as a whole, as a unifying factor. This vision was Cosmothesism as set forth by Dr. William Pierce. As we see the ever browning of the Earth on which we live, we join as one people with the words, towards a new consciousness, a new people, a new order.



Cosmotheism

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Sometime in the early 1970s, William Pierce (1933–2002) — founder of the white nationalist organization the National Alliance — was invited to speak at a private high school in Maryland. That he was invited to speak at any school is surprising. That it is was the Indian Spring Friends’ School, operated by Quakers is truly remarkable. Pierce spoke to his young audience about his belief that whites must form a strong sense of racial identity and pride if they are to survive as a people. After his talk, Pierce was rendered speechless by one young (white) man’s question: “Why do you think it’s so important for the white race to survive?” Now, one would think that Pierce, of all people, would have had a ready answer to this question. But in fact he didn’t — or didn’t yet.

The incident got Pierce thinking, and he came to the conclusion that he could not convince whites to save their race simply through an appeal to “love of one’s own.” No, whites needed a reason why their race should be saved. The race itself needed a justification; it needed to be justified to itself. That justification took the form of what Pierce came to call Cosmotheism.

He first set forth the thesis of Cosmotheism in a 1976 essay entitled “Our Cause” (in which he does not yet employ the term Cosmotheism itself). (Unless otherwise noted, all subsequent quotes are from this essay.) After a long lead-in (which includes the story of his visit to the Indian Spring Friends’ School), Pierce introduces Cosmotheism by first suggesting that it is a world-view of which all whites are unconsciously aware, just by virtue of being white:

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We know it because deep inside all of us, in our race-soul, there is a source of divine wisdom, of ages-old wisdom, of wisdom as old as the universe. That is the wisdom, the truth, which we in the National Alliance want to make the basis of our national policy. It is a truth of which most of us have been largely unconscious all our lives, but which now we have the opportunity to understand clearly and precisely...
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http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/07/cosmotheism/
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The problem with cosmotheism is that it lacks a historical and ethnic appeal that is tied to the ethnicity of the people that it seeks to attract. Most non-Christian Whites would prefer to practice a revived form of their ethnic groups pre-Christian native religion; not some dry-as-dust theological concept made up by a retired engineering professor in the late 20th century.
 
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The problem with cosmotheism is that it lacks a historical and ethnic appeal that is tied to the ethnicity of the people that it seeks to attract. Most non-Christian Whites would prefer to practice a revived form of their ethnic groups pre-Christian native religion; not some dry-as-dust theological concept made up by a retired engineering professor in the late 20th century.
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Arrow Our Cause

As a tribute to the late Dr. William Pierce we are broadcasting one of his best speeches, "Our Cause." Originally given in the late 1970's as a recruiting speech for the National Alliance, it is an in-depth exposition of the spiritual and philosophical basis of our struggle. "Our purpose is the creator's purpose," says Dr. Pierce, "the purpose for which Beethoven wrote and Newton pondered...." No understanding of the White resistance can be complete without the insights provided by in this speech.

http://www.natvan.com/internet-radio/ts/080302.mp3
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Old July 28th, 2012   #5
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Cosmotheism is neither religion nor theology. It’s difficult to even put a name to it. Cosmotheism seems little more to me than some half-hearted talking points added to some boring speech about nothing.

I am a Pagan, not a Christian, but to me, a theology or religion, false or true, must contain at least a minimum set of beliefs.

1. There is a supernatural world. (I know the word “supernatural’ is rejected by some. I don’t want to quibble over words.) There is an existence as real as the mundane world that is not easily or commonly accessible to us in the mundane world. Sometimes the separation is breached.
2. There are spirits that live in that world that have no normal existence in this world.
3. We are spirits temporary inhabiting flesh.
4. Our conscious life does not end at the death of the flesh. We live on.

1. through 4. hardly constitute a religion, but any philosophy that denies these has no claim to call itself theology. Most religions would add a conscious, created universe. While I suspect this, I've no personal experience that reinforces my suspicion.

Fortunately, I don’t have to rely on faith to believe what I believe (1 -- 4). I’ve encountered all of this too often to even think of questioning. I don’t question the existence of the printer attached to my computer. It requires no “faith.” Maybe common sense would have led me to 1. through 4., but bumping into things works better. For the life of me, I am amazed when I meet anyone who claims to have not encountered the supernatural. I have to believe them; I think folks are honest, but I still find it very strange.

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And to think all this time I was under the impression that Cosmotheism was basically a tax 'write-off'.
 
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1. There is a supernatural world. (I know the word “supernatural’ is rejected by some. I don’t want to quibble over words.) There is an existence as real as the mundane world that is not easily or commonly accessible to us in the mundane world. Sometimes the separation is breached.
Think of the Universe as 'two Universes.' One matter: The other spirit. One visible: The other invisible. One causal: The other acausal.


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2. There are spirits that live in that world that have no normal existence in this world.
Mainstream science has speculated that individual consciousness does not reside inside one's head. It doesn't. Individual consciousness is both acausal and spirit. The 'brain' is only half the story.

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3.We are spirits temporary inhabiting flesh.
Agree. Matter and spirit co-exist. Spirit is simply the opposite to matter.

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4. Our conscious life does not end at the death of the flesh. We live on.
I don't believe in an heaven or hell. When we die, either we become one with the divine, or are reborn again. To live life once more in the physical world. All living things contain a spark of the divine. In fact, all living things are vying to be God!
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From my website at: http://siabrandruids.weebly.com/

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Siabran Druid theology teaches that the human soul or spirit is composed of the same ethereal essence as the gods themselves. This energy represents the fifth element, superior to and dominant over the four natural elements of earth, air, fire and water. The element of spirit is present in all forms of creation which are made from various compositions of the other four elements of nature, serving to combine and maintain a balance between their diverse characteristics. As long as this balance between the contrary forces inherent in the four natural elements is sustained by the harmonious influence of the spirit, the organism created of them continues to exist in a healthy state. However when this balance becomes upset by one of the four natural elements becoming dominant over the others, a process of decay results, which leads to the decline of that organism

Whenever any living thing dies, the spirit is released and the natural elements which composed the physical form return to their disassociated state, eventually coming together again to create new life inhabited by the spiritual essence once more. We, as humans, represent a state of existence which is of an order between that of the animal and the divine. Our lives are given to us that we may learn from our experiences in the mundane world as a means of perfecting our knowledge, allowing our spirits to be strengthened through wisdom. By achieving wisdom we become closer to the divine as the more animalistic tendencies of our natures diminish. It is the ultimate purpose of the lessons learned in life that our spirits may eventually achieve the highest state of perfection, allowing them to finally reside in the supernatural plane inhabited by the gods themselves, the realm of Siabra.

The Order of Siabran Druids recognizes the Tuatha De Danann as our ancestral gods, existing as the Aes Sidhe. We believe that the gods are the embodiment of conscious thought-forms eternally imprinted upon the metaphysical plane and are manifestations of spiritual powers behind the natural forces from which all life and creation emanates.

By calling upon our gods through the rites and ceremonies prescribed by our doctrines, we are allowed to focus their power in order to bring about effective changes within our lives and enviroment. Honoring the gods in this way with our devotion encourages them to favor us and act on our behalf through their direct intervention in our daily lives. In developing this spiritual aspect of one's self, a greater sense of inner-harmony results, enabling us to achieve a state of peace and balance which transcends the material existence characteristic of the mundane world.
 
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