Persians, Aryans , and where you stand on this

[Sarmatian]

Originally Posted by Steven L. Akins

I think the best way of looking at it is this: If you are a White of pure European heritage, would you prefer your son or daughter to marry and have children with someone who was also of pure European heritage, or would you prefer them to marry/have children by a Persian/Iranian?

If you would prefer that that they marry and have children by someone of pure European heritage, then obviously you don't see Persian/Iranians as being "white enough."

Pure European heritage is a subjective term and please realize you are talking about a lot of different people - in fact I'm not even sure what that is even supposed to mean.

Is someone of "Pure European heritage" who is half Albanian and half French somehow more racially intact than an Iranian who can trace her lineage back seven generations?

This is not the way the Third Reich viewed race, and I don't think National Socialists today who have any respect for the Reich should do any different. You'll find every variety of "white nationalist" who may think their own way and that's their own choice to think that way. Personally, I subscribe to Nazi theory and my bookcase shows it.

I could easily point my finger at any number of nations that suffered under hundreds of years of Ottoman Turk rule just a few hundred years ago and question racial credentials. But I choose not to do so for two reasons:

1) I understand the political complexities of Empires
2) I respect all descendents of our Indo-European ancestors and I consider questioning racial credentials to be very disrespectful - leave that that to jews, they encourage and revel in it.

If anyone is sincerely interested in this subject from a factual basis this is an excellent site

http://lukferi.webs.com/

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by Sarmatian

Pure European heritage is a subjective term and please realize you are talking about a lot of different people - in fact I'm not even sure what that is even supposed to mean.

Is someone of "Pure European heritage" who is half Albanian and half French somehow more racially intact than an Iranian who can trace her lineage back seven generations?

This is not the way the Third Reich viewed race, and I don't think National Socialists today who have any respect for the Reich should do any different. You'll find every variety of "white nationalist" who may think their own way and that's their own choice to think that way. Personally, I subscribe to Nazi theory and my bookcase shows it.

I could easily point my finger at any number of nations that suffered under hundreds of years of Ottoman Turk rule just a few hundred years ago and question racial credentials. But I choose not to do so for two reasons:

1) I understand the political complexities of Empires
2) I respect all descendents of our Indo-European ancestors and I consider questioning racial credentials to be very disrespectful - leave that that to jews, they encourage and revel in it.

If anyone is sincerely interested in this subject from a factual basis this is an excellent site

http://lukferi.webs.com/

Obviously in Europe there is a hierarchy of more desirable and less desirable ethnicities, with northwestern Europeans being at the top of the desirable list and southern Europeans being closer to the bottom. I think you would find Persians rank somewhere below Italians, Greeks and Spanish, and slightly above or on par with Turks.

[Sarmatian]

Not according to the Third Reich.

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by Sarmatian

Not according to the Third Reich.

Where are they today?

[John sholtes]

I almost would accept them on the basis that they are against jews. But one really big problem arose in my mind when Akmadinijad was on Larry King and he said. "It wasn't the Arabs who killed all those jews it was the Germans" So even though he seems to deny the Holoicost he agreed with the jew Larry King that the Germans killed all those jews which makes it seem that he is really on the side of jews. I wouldn't be surprised that the whole Iran verses Israel scheme is nothing but another hoax to get Goym to fight another war killing off tens of millions more whites.

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by John sholtes

I almost would accept them on the basis that they are against jews. But one really big problem arose in my mind when Akmadinijad was on Larry King and he said. "It wasn't the Arabs who killed all those jews it was the Germans" So even though he seems to deny the Holoicost he agreed with the jew Larry King that the Germans killed all those jews which makes it seem that he is really on the side of jews. I wouldn't be surprised that the whole Iran verses Israel scheme is nothing but another hoax to get Goym to fight another war killing off tens of millions more whites.

Arabs are just as Semitic as the Jews.

[Thomas de Aynesworth]

"Persians, Aryans , and where you stand on this"

Persians do not ask on where you stand, but only that you kneel.

[Tim]

President Ahmadinejad's interview with Larry King

"On the issue of Holocaust, Iran’s President said, 'There are different opinions about the Holocaust and some are for and some are against this issue. We believe that an impartial group should study the matter and announce the results.'"

"He then asked, 'If we assume that this matter occurred, we have to see where it occurred, was it in Palestine or was it in Europe. If it occurred in Europe why should the Palestinian people be sacrificed and Palestine be occupied? Why can’t Europe provide them with some land where they can build their country? Why have they occupied Palestine to establish a government there?'"

[Alexi]

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The ancient Persians were Aryans.

They called themselves Aryans and were proud to be from a long line of Aryans.

They called their one invisible god, the god of the Aryans.

The word, Iran, originates from the word, Aryan.

Today, Iran is a mixed bag, like much of the rest of the planet.


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[Sarmatian]

This is very simple - and all over the internet you find extremely large amounts of conjecture and science-fiction regarding Iran and ancient Iran and so forth.

Persians are but one group of Caucasian Iranians. They are no more Aryan than many other bloodlines of Iranians.

Iranians are White Caucasians who are descendents of Indo-European speaking Aryans---
(from which they take the name of their nation, from which the Third Reich and gentlemen such as Hjlmar Schacht recognized, as well as the German Library of Knowledge that was established in Iran in 1930's - but all this aside - it changes nothing of the ethnographic and genetic history which I stated in one sentence above.)

Respectfully, I'll contribute nothing more to this (non)issue.

Remember who is the main benefactor from the fragmentation of the greater Aryan (and even greater Caucasian) race -- prior to perpetuating myth and speculation of where the boundaries of our race lies.

Strength and Vision to you all.

[Crowe]

Ancient Persians were Aryans, modern day Persians are not. There were also Aryans in Ancient India, but they ultimately were became extinct due to miscegenation. Same thing happened to the Persians.



This is an old portrait, but there are still a few Aryans in Iran that look like this man. They are a minority though. Lots of Ancient Persians looked similar to this. If he were to shave, get a hair cut, and put a suit and tie on, he would look like a Brit.

Islam is a multiracial religion, and encouraged miscegenation. Converting heads was Islam's ultimate goal, the race of the ones converting was no consequence to them.

[JonRieder]

Originally Posted by Steven L. Akins

I think the best way of looking at it is this: If you are a White of pure European heritage, would you prefer your son or daughter to marry and have children with someone who was also of pure European heritage, or would you prefer them to marry/have children by a Persian/Iranian?

If you would prefer that that they marry and have children by someone of pure European heritage, then obviously you don't see Persian/Iranians as being "white enough."

I think that's about the only way to look at it. Would you rather have to guess or would you rather be sure.
Albeit it can be quite hard to tell in this day and age where so many muslims are being pumped into places like Norway, Sweden, Germany, and of course the Britannia Isles. While I live in the US, I have read alot about this heavily encouraged relocation and suspect it has to do with a mixing of the northern races. I do not mean to get off-track from the posters intended topic. However I find it meaningful in that if these Northern races are being adulterated, most likely the Persians, Iranians and most likely the area's of Macedonia, Thrace, and Italy along with them have already gone through a change on an epic scale. I'm sure there are exceptions, but so few as not to bother speaking of.

[Adolf The Great]

Originally Posted by Xuxalina Rihhia

Bush is a Jew, as is Putin and as was Stalin. I don't know if Merkel, Blair or Brown are whites or not; they could be Jews too. BTW Stalin's original name was Dzhugashvili. Dzhugashvili literally means "Son of a jew" in Georgian. Dzhuga = Jew, shvili = son of. In English, Stalin's maiden name would translate to 'Jewison' And that name does exist.

There is no evidence that Bush, Putin or Stalin had any recent Jewish ancestors (up till their grandparents), Bush is American, Putin is Russian and Stalin wasn't Russian, he was Georgian but not Jewish.

Anyways, although Stalin was Georgian by birth he did become a Russian nationalist and at his time of birth he was born within the Russian Empire he felt "Russian", it was Trotsky who was part Jewish.

[Adolf The Great]

Ancient Persians were Aryans but today's "Persians" are mixed with Mongoloid.

Aryans are Indo-Europeans white only.

[Vance Stubbs]

I've seen a mapping of the way genes cluster for northern Europeans, southern Europeans, and Ashkenazi Jews. The European genes formed a sort of oval, with northerners on one side and southerners on the other side. The Jewish cluster was close to the Europeans but there was a clear gap there. This seems consistent with their own genealogical claims.

Does anyone know what the data looks like for Iranians? Obviously they haven't been a race of assholes, but I'm thinking from a purely genetic standpoint.

[Cassinelli]

This is a Kalash girl, the kalash people usually to live in north of Pakistan, they still living on their aryan and pagan roots, even speaking a indo-european language, OF COURSE THEY'RE ARYANS!

[Arian]

Originally Posted by Crowe

Ancient Persians were Aryans, modern day Persians are not. There were also Aryans in Ancient India, but they ultimately were became extinct due to miscegenation. Same thing happened to the Persians.



This is an old portrait, but there are still a few Aryans in Iran that look like this man. They are a minority though. Lots of Ancient Persians looked similar to this. If he were to shave, get a hair cut, and put a suit and tie on, he would look like a Brit.

Islam is a multiracial religion, and encouraged miscegenation. Converting heads was Islam's ultimate goal, the race of the ones converting was no consequence to them.

My family is from Iran.Alot of my family members look like regular Americans till you read our names.Like Arian and Ali reza.

All these are Iranians.