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Old November 13th, 2012 #61
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Suppose for a minute that the U.S. government decided to let every state that wanted to secede, do so without any interference or opposition, upon a popular vote of that state's citizenry.

Something like 40 to 45 cents of every dollar of personal income in Mississippi is some form of government transfer payment. I suspect Arkansas, Louisiana and Alabama have similar figures. I can't imagine the U.S. government allowing those states that have seceded to continue receiving those benefits without also being part of the tax base. Besides the transfer payments, a large part of the citizenry is employed in jobs that are federally funded or federally dependent -- i.e. military, public schools, hospitals.

How committed to the idea of secession would these people remain, once it sunk in that their meemaw's medicare, social security, food stamps etc. would no longer be coming? That there would be no more farm subsidies for not growing crops? That the federal dollars supporting the school at which their wife teaches would be no more?

It could be done -- there would be a mass exodus of niggers to the U.S. where there benefits would continue, and with that the overiding cause of the South's present poverty would be gone. But there would be grinding poverty here for at least 100 years.

I just don't think the commitment to do it exists.
You're missing the fantasy aspect of this, which is the idea that:

1) the North voted for Obama because he's half black

2) the North loves niggers

3) the North would accept a mass transfer of niggers

OD is practicing fantasy politics. It's plausible to some Southerners beacause they're either not familiar with the north or not interested in how northerners actually think. It would be funny if it weren't pathetic.
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The South has nothing for Ron Paul but cheap insults, and this speaks poorly of the character of the region. Love of war + hatred of thinking will produce for the South the same results they have in the past.
Here's my recollection of the 2012 Republican Primary:

(1) Ron Paul loses Iowa to Santorum and Romney.

(2) Ron Paul loses New Hampshire to Romney.

(3) Mitt Romney loses South Carolina to Gingrich.

(4) Newt Gingrich loses Florida to Romney.

(5) Ron Paul loses Nevada to Romney.

(6) Ron Paul loses Minnesota, Colorado, and Missouri to Romney.

(7) Ron Paul loses Maine, Arizona, Wyoming, Idaho, Washington, and Michigan to Romney.

(8) Ron Paul loses Alaska, Vermont, Ohio, Virginia, and Massachusetts to Romney.

(9) Romney loses Georgia to Gingrich and North Dakota, Tennessee, and Oklahoma to Santorum.

(10) Romney loses Kansas, Alabama, Louisiana, and Mississippi to Santorum.

(11) Ron Paul loses Illinois and Hawaii to Romney.

(12) Ron Paul loses Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Maryland, Delaware, New York, and Pennsylvania to Romney.

The race is over at this point. Santorum and Gingrich have dropped out. Ron Paul stays in the race even though it is impossible to win enough delegates to take the Republican nomination.

Ron Paul loses every subsequent primary to Romney.
 
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Three lessons from the 2012 GOP primary:

(1) In 2008 and 2012, Ron Paul couldn't win a single state anywhere in the country.

(2) In 2008 and 2012, Ron Paul lost the race in the North before it swung back around to the South.

(3) In 2008 and 2012, John McCain and Mitt Romney (the GOP establishment candidates) won the Republican nomination in the Northern states in spite of Southern opposition.
 
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It's plausible to some Southerners beacause they're either not familiar with the north or not interested in how northerners actually think.
I admit to being completely mystified about how they think. I would be much obliged if you could explain that.
 
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You're missing the fantasy aspect of this, which is the idea that:

1) the North voted for Obama because he's half black
See the video below.

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2) the North loves niggers
See these maps:

http://politicalmaps.org/wp-content/...ap-nytimes.png
http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/president

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3) the North would accept a mass transfer of niggers
Something like 45% of them live there now.

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OD is practicing fantasy politics. It's plausible to some Southerners beacause they're either not familiar with the north or not interested in how northerners actually think. It would be funny if it weren't pathetic.
From the abolition of slavery to nigger citizenship to civil rights to overthrowing Jim Crow to creating BRA to electing Obama twice, there is a consistent pattern of Yankees driving the racial decline of America and dragging us to each new level of what they call "progress."

 
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I admit to being completely mystified about how they think. I would be much obliged if you could explain that.
I have dozens of times, to no effect.
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Something like 45% of them live there now.
The North is, what, 1/3 the size of the South?

You ought to ditch that sort of slipperiness, it makes people not trust you.

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From the abolition of slavery to nigger citizenship to civil rights to overthrowing Jim Crow to creating BRA to electing Obama twice, there is a consistent pattern of Yankees driving the racial decline of America and dragging us to each new level of what they call "progress."
That's true. But it's not all northerners, as the county map shows, it's only some of them, the dominant strain, historically based in the NE. What's important is what is driving them, and that is something you and the yahoos are not able to figure out.
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See the video below.



See these maps:

http://politicalmaps.org/wp-content/...ap-nytimes.png
http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/president



Something like 45% of them live there now.



From the abolition of slavery to nigger citizenship to civil rights to overthrowing Jim Crow to creating BRA to electing Obama twice, there is a consistent pattern of Yankees driving the racial decline of America and dragging us to each new level of what they call "progress."

MSNBC's Chris Matthews: As Much an American - YouTube
Jethro, first of all you're wrong about Ron Paul losing every state, they were stolen from him by the GOP because he would have changed the country and destroyed their power base and their theft from our treasury by winning, they knew he could win in a landslide.

I posted the proof yesterday, but you refused to even acknowledge it.

Secondly, if you compare jewish occupied states maps to liberal mind-fuck clustered states, they are the same.

In short, it ain't yankees destroying this country, though they have been duped by jews to assist jews in destroying it.

IT IS THE JEWS WHO ARE DESTROYING AMERICA
, by twisting minds up north with their local media hacks & spinsters, and it is the jews who push the niggers wherever they want them to go.

You need to research that aspect you feverishly overlook.
 
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The North is, what, 1/3 the size of the South?

You ought to ditch that sort of slipperiness, it makes people not trust you.
As I said above, 54% of the blacks live in the South. The rest of them now live in the North and the West. The Northern states are also significantly larger than the Southern states.

Compare their votes in the electoral college:

http://www.aei-ideas.org/wp-content/...p1-600x384.jpg

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That's true. But it's not all northerners, as the county map shows, it's only some of them, the dominant strain, historically based in the NE. What's important is what is driving them, and that is something you and the yahoos are not able to figure out.
We're better off without 'em.

I've been saying it for over a year now. The League of the South has been saying it for twenty years. The yahoos are starting to figure it out now. Even some Yankees are saying it too.

BTW, are you doing the Jim Giles show?
 
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IT IS THE JEWS WHO ARE DESTROYING AMERICA, by twisting minds up north with their local media hacks & spinsters, and it is the jews who push the niggers wherever they want them to go.

You need to research that aspect you feverishly overlook.
There's a huge problem with that assumption.

Most of the Jews came here during the Great Wave from the 1880s to the 1920s. They were causing plenty of trouble in Central and Eastern Europe at that time. In Russia, the Jews were confined by the Tsar to the Pale of Settlement:

Pale_of_Settlement Pale_of_Settlement

The thing is, Yankee nigger loving was already running fever pitch in the 1860s and 1870s ... BEFORE the vast majority of Jews immigrated to the United States.

BEFORE the Jews even got here, Yankees had armed 200,000 niggers to invade the South, destroy the Confederacy, and kill and rob the White people who live here.

BEFORE the Jews even got here, Yankees had made niggers into citizens. Go watch Spielberg's new movie "Lincoln" which is about to come out in a few days. Tommy Lee Jones plays Thaddeus Stevens.

Does the Jewish mind control only work north of the Mason-Dixon line?
 
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Does the Jewish mind control only work north of the Mason-Dixon line?
They were publishing their mind-bending lies long before the CW, they didn't need big numbers to control thought in the colonies. SEE this and particularly this

When they control what whites think, only the very most intelligent and thoughtful escape their traps.

Why do you think "The Pen is Mightier Than the Sword?"
 
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They control the local media in all the blue states, much more than in the red ones.

EDIT: THIS is an interesting source too.

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There's a huge problem with that assumption.

Most of the Jews came here during the Great Wave from the 1880s to the 1920s. They were causing plenty of trouble in Central and Eastern Europe at that time. In Russia, the Jews were confined by the Tsar to the Pale of Settlement:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_of_Settlement

The thing is, Yankee nigger loving was already running fever pitch in the 1860s and 1870s ... BEFORE the vast majority of Jews immigrated to the United States.

BEFORE the Jews even got here, Yankees had armed 200,000 niggers to invade the South, destroy the Confederacy, and kill and rob the White people who live here.

BEFORE the Jews even got here, Yankees had made niggers into citizens. Go watch Spielberg's new movie "Lincoln" which is about to come out in a few days. Tommy Lee Jones plays Thaddeus Stevens.

Does the Jewish mind control only work north of the Mason-Dixon line?
Christianity - an invention of the Jews used to get gentiles to worship the Jewish god and to believe that the Jews themselves are "Gods chosen people" effectively keeps anti-semitism to a minimum in the South, where Evangelical Christianity seeks to emulate the ancient Israelites and Hebrews, and stands firmly behind Israel and in support of the Jewish people.

But the Jews themselves have a very long history in North America, going back well before the Revolutionary War, where they were engaged in the trans-Atlantic slave-trade, banking and finance in colonial America:

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Newport, Rhode Island is the historic home to one of the oldest and certainly most influential Jewish communities in early American history. These men and women arrived in Newport as early as 1658 and by the time of the American Revolution they grew to a population of over thirty families. Their rich and varied lives greatly contributed to the ideals of religious freedom and open commerce that would become the hallmarks of the emerging nation. With the family names of Lopez, Levy, Rivera, Seixas, deToro (Touro), Gomez and Hays, these men and women represented the merging of old and new worlds through the tradition and culture of colonial Sephardic Jewry. The following are brief accounts of a few of the extraordinary Jewish men, women, and institutions of colonial-era Newport.

Aaron Lopez and his family arrived in Newport around 1750 from New York via Lisbon, Portugal. Lopez arrived in the new world as a member of a "Marrano" family with the Christian name of "Don Duarte Lopez." Lopez immediately dropped his Christian name and took the Hebrew name of Aaron and submitted to ritual circumcision. Within twenty years, Lopez owned or had interests in over 80 sailing vessels. Lopez was also one of the original founders and contributors of Touro Synagogue and by the end of his life was recognized as one of the "Merchant Princes" of early America. His merchant trading interests included rum, molasses, dry goods and African slaves.

Jacob Rodriguez Rivera (uncle and father-in-law of Aaron Lopez) hailed from a "Marrano" family from Seville, Spain. He arrived in Newport via Curacao in 1748 where he introduced the manufacture of spermaceti candle-making. Next to Aaron Lopez, Rivera occupied the highest position in the commercial, religious and social life of Newport’s Jewish community. His daughter Sarah, married Aaron Lopez and his son Jacob owned a grand mansion on the Parade that is today located at 8 Washington Square. History also remembers the Rivera Home then the residence of Deputy Governor John Gardiner who with the Reverend James Manning in July, 1763 met with interested citizens and first made the design known to establish a college in the English colony of Rhode Island, which eventually became Brown University.

Moses Levy and the Moses Seixas families both lived in one of Newport's large colonial mansions at 29 Touro Street. Seixas was a founding member of the nation's oldest Jewish Masonic Lodge (King David in Newport) and Grand Master of the Masonic Order of Rhode Island. Seixas was well known as the Cashier of the Bank of Rhode Island. President (Parnas) of Touro Synagogue at the time of the George Washington visit and letter to the congregation, Seixas also performed the Covenant of Circumcision (B’rith Milah). Prominent merchant and trader Moses Levy of New York and Newport was one of several Ashkenazi Jewish families in Newport at that time. Levy owned the Touro Street Mansion and willed the property to Moses Seixas in 1792. Levy was also one of the original benefactors of Touro Synagogue.

Rev. Isaac Touro was the First Spiritual leader of Congregation Yeshuat Israel. His family came to America from Amsterdam via the West Indies, though originally from Spain where family name was "de Toro." Rev. Touro arrived in Newport in 1759 when only twenty years old, having been trained in Holland for the Jewish ministry. He provided from memory the design of the Touro Synagogue from the great Sephardic Synagogues of Amsterdam. Sons Abraham and Judah would become great 19th century philanthropists.

Moses Michael Hays was not only brother-in-law of Rev. Isaac Touro, but a prosperous merchant. Hays introduced the Order of the Scottish Rite Masonic Order to America. He was the Grand Master of Massachusetts Masonic Lodge with Paul Revere and friend of Patriot Thomas Paine and he helped organized the King David Lodge in 1769. Hays moved from Newport to Boston in 1780. He is credited as being one of the founders of the Massachusetts Fire and Marine Insurance Co., which grew to become the Bank of Boston. At the Old Colony House, one of the oldest existing government buildings in America, in June, 1776 (one month before the Declaration of Independence) Hays delivered a now famous letter to Rhode Island General Assembly protesting the requirement that Jews sign loyalty test before the fledging government.

Ezra Stiles was a Congregationalist minister in Newport and close friend of Isaac Touro and Aaron Lopez. His diaries contain the most extensive descriptions of 18th century Jewish life in Newport. Later he would become first President of Yale University and add Hebrew to the university seal.

Judah Touro was the youngest son of Isaac Touro and he moved to New Orleans in his early twenties where he made his fortune as a merchant/trader. At the time of his death, his estate totaled nearly one million dollars, most of which was given to charitable organizations, orphanages, religious institutions, and towards good works in various cities including his birthplace, Newport. Land was purchased with his generous gift in 1855 for the purpose of providing a public park and preserving the historic Old Stone Mill.

Touro Synagogue is the oldest existing synagogue in North America (completed for Chanukah in 1763) located on what was originally called Griffin Street. The founding Newport congregation organized as "Yeshuat Israel" or Salvation of Israel never named the synagogue Touro. Those recognizing Abraham Touro’s generous gifts to restore the building, street, and boundary walls loosely called the synagogue "Touro’s Synagogue" in the mid-19th century. Under the Bimah lies a trap door that was used to house runaway slaves as part of the Underground Railroad. The trap door also represents the Marrano tradition of remembering the perils of Jews living in Spain and Portugal during the Inquisition and having to flee from soldiers of the Holy Office at a moments notice.

The Hebrew Cemetery on Bellevue Avenue has origins dating back to 1677, making it the oldest (existing) Jewish Cemetery in America. The final resting place of many of the first Jewish families of Newport and America, including Touro, Hays, Myers, Lopez, Hart, Seixas and Rivera. The 1712 map of the Town of Newport identifies the cemetery on "Jew Street."

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...vjw/rhode.html
 
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All you have to do to understand kike thought control, is to compare jewish concentrations maps to liberal voting maps, they are virtually identical.

They win over the public in the streets where they live, too, because they are relentless and persistant beyond redemption.
 
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All you have to do to understand kike thought control, is to compare jewish concentrations maps to liberal voting maps, they are virtually identical.

They win over the public in the streets where they live, too, because they are relentless and persistant beyond redemption.
Here you go Fred:



Any county where Jews are a significant percentage of the population voted for Obama in 2012.
 
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Thumbs down W.H. Petition Calls for Stripping Citizenship and Exile for Anyone Who Signs Petition to Secede

A White House petition gathering force calls for citizenship to be stripped and exile for anyone who signs a petition in favor of a state's secession.

"Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported," the full petition reads.

The title of the petition is, "WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede and Exile Them."

As of this writing, 2,205 have signed the petition; 22,795 more signatures are needed for the issue to be addressed by the White House.


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...de_663282.html
 
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The only difference I see, is the Amerindians who vote for liberals in the southwest, that isn't consistent with jewish occupation. The government is their sugar daddy.
 
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As I said above, 54% of the blacks live in the South. The rest of them now live in the North and the West. The Northern states are also significantly larger than the Southern states.
The point is, niggers are thick in the South. Up north, there are far more nigger-free places, although that changes over time.

Compare their votes in the electoral college:

http://www.aei-ideas.org/wp-content/...p1-600x384.jpg

That shows me plenty of northern states voted the way most Southern states did.

The problem is your whole argument turns on the REASON people voted as they did. That Southerners might have voted for Romney mainly because he's white does not prove that northerners voted for Obama mainly because he's half black. This is a good example of the South's inability to understand how other people think.

I'll say it again: northerners, the STRAIN you are talking about, which is by no means a majority, do not love niggers. They love themselves. They love their beautiful (they think) progressive (they think) radical (they think) view of a new globalized world in which races disappear. This crank philosophy is a direct descendant of christianity. That's the part that actually matters politically, but you completely ignore it so you can divide those in the north and south who see the same problems. Blaming everything on monolithic Yankees is the niche you've cut out for yourself, so you're going to work it, regardless of the facts. Today, the power that matters is the jew, not the Yankee. And it's been that way for well over 100 years. The same problems we see in the US we see in, for crissakes, Greece. It's a global problem, and not one the South can solve by itself, but your philosophy drives away those who might work with it.

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We're better off without 'em.

I've been saying it for over a year now. The League of the South has been saying it for twenty years. The yahoos are starting to figure it out now. Even some Yankees are saying it too.
I think everyone has known that for a long time. But why would they want to relinquish any territory or power? They wouldn't. So how are you going to take it from them? On this point, you got nothing. Nor does anyone else in the South. But along comes an actual Southerner, Ron Paul, who has at least the starting point of a solution, and has attracted lots of interest up north, lots of support, and he can't even get a hearing in the South. Maybe the South actually preferred Romney less because he's white and more because he's an Israel-first warmonger. The South can't even figure out what's going on, let alone do something about it. That, surely, is clear.

I won't even get into what Gen. Lee mentioned - that the red states in the South are tax sucks, not tax contributors.

The only hope you have of secession is enough 'yankees' believing their own bullshit, that diversity really is a strength, and letting you go to prove it. But most northerners don't actually believe that. The elite who profess it know they're lying. That's why you don't get any diversity in Israel, you get expulsions. That's why northerners who can (like Hillary Clinton) move much farther away from niggers than Southerners do.

Love of niggers doesn't exist in the north. Christian universalist-socialist pipe dreams + contempt for the 'backwardness' of the South drive the north, not love of niggers. At most the north - a small but dominant section of it - love what niggers do - to whites generally (with extra points added if the whites are working class, rural or Southern). Hatred of Southerners is an intensifier not the essence. The left hates whites generally, and this is easily provable by visiting their sites and listening to what real-world illiberal actually say, and looking at their actual policies. The left elite think they are jews, if they're jews, or men of the world, if they're christian/secular humanist progressive whiteskins. They don't love niggers, they hate Southerners as one subset of a group of backward morons preventing the dawn of their race-free global utopia.

The north wouldn't need anti-discrimination 'civil rights' laws if whites freely mixed with niggers. Actually, on a practical level, race-mixing is a Southern thing, not a northern thing. You all like living among them, evidently. Or you'd move away from them.

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He asked me to debate you. I said I would, on the condition you used your real name. You declined. Then he asked, earlier today, if I would do an (audio) interview alone. I declined, but offered to do a print interview, if he came up with some questions. He declined.
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Every time the north tries to get something going - the National Socialists, the America First Committee, Ron Paul - the South wants nothing to do with helping it, but is willing to help destroy it.
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