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Old September 17th, 2013 #321
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The term "Untermenschen" was never used to describe the Slavs.
Well, sometimes it was.



Yes, it was a propaganda, but so what? The British were never considered as subhuman folk incapable of forming a state on their own.
 
Old September 18th, 2013 #322
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Well, sometimes it was.



Yes, it was a propaganda, but so what? The British were never considered as subhuman folk incapable of forming a state on their own.
To my knowledge, the book ''Der Untermensch'' was concerned with the bolshevik man, as opposed to the national-socialist man. Germanic members of the Communist Party were considered untermensch, as would be those of the Communist Party of Great Britain.
 
Old September 18th, 2013 #323
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On the infinite a steppes of Russian territory lay Eastern Europe. A sharp contrast is noticed when comparing central Europe with this enormous space. On both sides of the border is the same earth but not the same man.

It is the man who makes his mark on the landscape, while on the German side is planned orderly fields yielding abundant harvests; the other side is only impenetrable forests, vast and unkempt, miles of uninhabited steppes where even the rivers wind endlessly through the nothingness.

This poorly kept land which hides fertile soil could be a paradise for man, a potential "California of Europe" alive with fields and fruit, but instead it lies neglected and wasted, lost to the abyss of cultural nihilism.

This land cries out against the subhuman and his wasteful ways! This fertile black earth watered by burning tears, is only barely separated from the rest of Europe. However its Eastern European masters have not risen above their primitive ways.
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Certainly, the developed nations of Central and Western Europe wanted to secure this land, it was their purpose. First there were the Goths and the Varangians, who based there empires in this territory and introduced culture. Then the Swedish, Flemish, the Dutch, Shwabs and Lower-Saxon settlers, attempted to bring light into the darkness. The cry for help sounded for centuries from these lands.

Even Peter the Great, Catherine II and all the rest called the German peasant and the German officer, a European scientist! A physician and engineer. But once again the forces of darkness, and the subhuman prevailed, the German spirit, which came to these lands to help, was brutally and senselessly destroyed.




This English translation has some flaws, but it clearly shows that the Nazis viewed people of Eastern Europe as inferiors. As disorderly people who were not capable of creating their own culture and state, that is.

"[Eastern Europe] saw only chaos because it lacked a man, a valuable bearer of the culture [...]"
 
Old September 19th, 2013 #324
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OSTARBEITER (Eastern Worker). Polish or Russian slave worker in the occupied countries during World War n. Such workers were required to wear an identification patch with an O. Because they were regarded as subhuman, they were ordered to be separated from Germans. Those who tried to escape were hanged where other workers could see their bodies.
German notice from 30 September 1939 in occupied Poland with warning of death penalty for refusal to work during harvest.



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The Ostarbeiters were restricted to their place of residence (in some cases labor camps) and forbidden to fraternize with Germans.

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Those who tried to escape were hanged where other workers could see their bodies. Leave without authorization or escape was punished by death. All sexual relations, even those that did not result in pregnancy, were severely punished as rassenschande (racial pollution).

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To prevent violations of German racial laws, the workers were to be recruited in equal numbers of men and women, so brothels would not be needed, but women who became pregnant were less effective workers. The original policy, sending them home, created an incentive for women to become pregnant. As a consequence, contrary to the usual Nazi law against abortions, they could be aborted, even against their will.

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However, if the woman and the baby's father were "of good blood", the child might likewise prove "racially valuable." Consequently, the parentage was investigated and both parents tested. If they passed, the woman would be permitted to give birth, and the child was removed for Germanization. [...] If the born children did not pass, they would be removed to an Ausländerkinder-Pflegestätte, where many died from lack of food.

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Attempts were made to segregate the children and use ruthless propaganda to establish that if a worker of "alien blood" gave birth in Germany, it meant immediate and total separation from the child.

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Repeated efforts were made to propagate Volksturm (racial consciousness), to prevent sexual relations between Germans and foreign workers.

Female forced laborers wearing "OST" (Ostarbeiter) badges are liberated from a camp near Łódź.



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Document D-312, Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression, vol. VII, US Government Printing Office, District of Columbia: 1946, pp. 16-17:
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Essen 11 October 1945.

SWORN STATEMENT

Re: Maltreatment of Foreign Workers in No. 2 Repair Shop.

I, the undersigned Karl Sehnbruch born 25.1.1886, residing in Essen - West, Duesseldorferstrasse 3 make the following voluntary statement on oath.

I have been employed for years in No. 2 Repair Shop, Fried. Krupp factory, and know the Works conditions perfectly. At the end of 1942, the first Russian PWs. came to No. 2 Repair Work Shop and were employed as labourers. In course of time

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further Russian - P.Ws. and Eastern workers were put to work here. The number of Russians employed by us during the war varied between 60 and 100. All these Russian workers were badly clothed. Day in and day out they went around in their raggy clothing. They nearly all smelled so badly, owing to their being dirty and ungroomed that one could not stand it. I have never been able to ascertain whether the works management ever gave the Russians clean or additional clothing, although they had to work all weathers and then often shivered with the cold. On top of that, the food for the Russians was very bad and totally insufficient, and they had to perform heavy work on this food. I have often enough seen the food which the Russians received daily which was only a thin vegetable soup and I did not think it possible for a man to be able to exist on it for years without getting some sort of health trouble. Nothing was ever done on the part of the works direction to improve the food. It wasn't enough that these Russians worked under such unworthy and unfavourable conditions but at every opportunity they were punished by horrible physical ill-treatment. The Deputy Works Manager Greiff took part in these mishandlings. He thought nothing of hitting a Russian prisoner in the face with his hand. On another occasion Greiff hit an Eastern worker over the shoulder with an iron rod in such a manner that the man ran through the works crying. It was impossible for him to lift his arm and a few other P.Ws. had to do his work for him.

Repair fitter Peter Slamnik, stateless, was also well known throughout the works for his barbaric treatment of the Russians. In January 1945, Slamnik, who was an S.A. man, shot a Russian with his pistol in No. 2 Repair workshop yard.

Furthermore in November 1944 Slamnik attempted to hang a Russian who was supposed to have stolen a pair of shoes. The Russian had already been hoisted up and showed all the symptoms of choking when this bestial deed was stopped at the last moment. I have never been able to find out whether Slamnik was ever brought to justice by the works manager Engels, about this terrible murder, because Slamnik worked on quietly in the factory and showed no change in his manner. Since the entry of the American troops in April 1945, Slamnik has disappeared from the Factory.

[signed] KARL SEHNBRUCH
J. W. L. Rathbone, Major
Mil Gov. President.
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Document D-306, Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression, vol. VII, US Government Printing Office, District of Columbia: 1946, pp. 14-15:
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Essen, 11 October 1945.

SWORN STATEMENT.

I, the undersigned, August Kleinschmidt, residing in Essen, Curtiusstrasse 126, make the following statement voluntarily on oath:

At the end of 1942, and beginning of 1943, the first Eastern workers and Russian Ps.W. came to our works. I was master in the No. 3/4 Panzer Shop heat treatment department. I had 4 female Eastern workers under my command. From the very

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beginning I drove these Eastern workers to work. I admit that I caught hold of them at the back of the head and smacked their necks to make them work. In July 1944 I was present when Spettman beat a Russian woman with a rubber tube because she had a piece of white bread. Lewenkamp was put into No. 4 Panzer Shop by the firm Krupp to supervise the foreigners. He gave us instructions we had not to be frightened of hitting, kicking or doing other such brutal things. I can say that with a pure conscience that it was a pleasure for Lewenkamp, who controlled all the camps, to get Eastern workers into his hands and ill-treat them in a sadistic manner. In December 1944 it often happened that the women Eastern workers warmed themselves at the braziers which had been set up. If they stayed there too long, I drove them back to work with blows from my fist on their heads and shoulders. I know too, that Lewenkamp had a small room in the works to which he took the foreigners and ill-treated them. The Works Assistant Wellmann once made the remark : "If they won't work, bring them here and hit them in the neck !"

About the Russians food, I can say that it was not good. I have once been able to ascertain that it was a watery caper soup. The girls clothing was insufficient for the winter, and for that reason they stood against the fire to protect themselves a little from the cold.

Once, a girl who was pregnant, came to me and complained that she had been beaten by the Guard Schoenfeld. She was away from work for 8 days and as she told me later, she had been in bed the whole time because her whole body was covered with bruises.

I can remember one case when Professor Houdremont visited us in the works and saw the miserable condition in which the girls were and what heavy work they had to do. 2 female Eastern workers were employed in attaching chains to the body work of Tiger Tanks.

[Signed] AUGUST KLEINSCHMIDT
J. W. L. Rathbone Major.
Mil Gov President.
[Stamp]
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Old September 21st, 2013 #326
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Cut&Paste Asshole,

It is really quite a paradox. How can one understand, think about, another who is not able to think, to only repeat?

You are basically trying to make a point by using a evidence that reflects a virtual universal fact. That is, two ethnic group living next to each view each other as dangerous, potentially dangerous, inferior, less civilized etc and as a result engage in verbal barbs. Are there any examples of such situations in which such verbal exchanges did not exits?

There was/is a website that had a lot of scans from French magazines from the 19th and early 20th century which portrayed the Germans were inferior and uncivilized. And the French certainly coveted German land. So what does this say about the French? And suppose the French had a border with the Slavs, think the French would be any different in that case? Certainly the French would never invade Slavic lands now would they?

Since you have repeatedly proven yourself a virtual retard and totally ignorant of history, nothing can be taken for granted, and I forced to provide this link:
French_invasion_of_Russia French_invasion_of_Russia


But with regards to German and their view of their Slav neighbors. Even though German's view of the Slavs was to be expected, the Germans seemed to have based their claims on facts. Can you name a single measure of culture or civilization in which the Germans did not surpass its Slavic neighbors?

You have been asked some very simple questions. Try to answer them by thinking, not knee-jerk cut-&-pasting.
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Old September 21st, 2013 #327
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Cut&Paste Asshole,

It is really quite a paradox. How can one understand, think about, another who is not able to think, to only repeat?



You have been asked some very simple questions. Try to answer them by thinking, not knee-jerk cut-&-pasting.
My sentiments exactly, Tintin. This anti-White scumbag and his AWOL partner in slime NM Valdez, are apparently incapable of critical thinking -- if it wasn't for search engines both would be totally mute. I've been saying this for the longest; it's just nice to receive confirmation of the fact. Thanks...
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Old September 22nd, 2013 #328
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He sort of reminds me Constantin von Hoffmeister, another "high-born" full of himself. Similar arrogand style and snobbish attitude.

Very typical of them to be hostile to any truly socialist (like National-Socialist) ideas, while supposedly standing for all sorts of humanistic ideals.

For that matter, I suspect, he doesn't even really care about Slavs, he just want to show to 'nazis' how "smarter" he is than any of them..

As for the topic itself, it is important to differentiate theories/opinions and actual reality. Reality shows N-S Germany applied harsh measures and policies (it was wartime after all) regardless of race and moderate attitude towards friendly and allied parties (like Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia), again regardless of their racial status. There is an exception when dealing with jews and communist/soviet forces because they were viewed as the main threat and muscle of jewish-led subhumanity coming from the east, that said, similar view about judeobolschewism held millions of Europeans, including the Slavs. Germanization is made to be a buzz-word, but could be compared to Sovietization and Americanization later on, in form not in content of course. In short, strong German economic (which happened anyway) and cultural influence, German language as lingua franca in continental Europe, etc. Naturally Allied and (mainly) commie propaganda like to empathize any unofficial plan or statement aimed against Slavs.

 
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Well, sometimes it was.



Yes, it was a propaganda, but so what? The British were never considered as subhuman folk incapable of forming a state on their own.
Nowhere in the brochure Der Untermensch is the word "Slavs" or "Slavic peoples" mentioned, nor is there anything against Polish, Russian, Ukrainian or any other Slav.

Full text of the brochure Der Untermensch:

As long as there have been men on the earth, the struggle between man and the subhuman will be the historic rule; the Jewish-led struggle against the mankind, as far back as we can look, is part of the natural course of life on our planet. One can be convinced with full certainty that this struggle for life and death is just as much a law of nature as is the struggle of an infection to corrupt a healthy body."

Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler 1935

Just as the night rises against the day, the light and dark are in eternal conflict. So too, is the subhuman the greatest enemy of the dominant species on earth, mankind. The subhuman is a biological creature, crafted by nature, which has hands, legs, eyes and mouth, even the semblance of a brain. Nevertheless, this terrible creature is only a partial human being.

Although it has features similar to a human, the subhuman is lower on the spiritual and psychological scale than any animal. Inside of this creature lies wild and unrestrained passions: an incessant need to destroy, filled with the most primitive desires, chaos and coldhearted villainy.

A subhuman and nothing more!
Not all of those, who appear human are in fact so. Woe to him who forgets it! Every great creation, idea, and artistic expression on this planet were brought forth by real man. It was this true man that thought to invent and to create. It is for him there is only one objective:

To pave the way to a higher form of existence, to give shape to the endless nothing, to make progress on the elusive quest for continuous improvement.

Thus evolved culture.

So just as the plough, modern tools and the concept of hearth and home helped to form human society and create the family, the people and the state. So then must mankind become good and great, rising above all other living creatures. Dwelling in the realm of God!

However, along side of mankind dwells the subhuman. This subhuman hates all that is created by man. This subhuman has always hated man, and always secretly sought to bring about his downfall, first like a thief, and then like a brazen killer.

The subhuman is united with his peers. Like beasts among beasts, never knowing peace or calm. The subhuman thrives in chaos and darkness, he is frightened by the light. These subhuman creatures dwell in the cesspools, and swamps, preferring a hell on earth, to the light of the sun.

But in these swamps and cesspools the subhuman has found its leader – The Eternal Jew! The Jew understands the desires and needs of his fellow creature. The Jews endeavors to corrupt and manipulate this horror of inhumanity until they are rallied towards a common goal in the destruction of true man.

Beginning as early on as the destruction of Persians, the Jew has glorified this destructive nature. Even honoring it and declaring the holiday Purim that celebrates the organized mass murder of 75,000 Aryan Persians, who died as victims of Jewish hatred and evil.

Even now world Jewry still glorifies this terrible act - as its greatest religious holiday.

The eternal hatred of the subhuman for mankind exists; they envy the clean and noble character of man. So they have tried to destroy what they hate, and from out of the vast deserts and endless steppes they have gathered hordes of their Huns whose leaders Attila, and Genghis Khan descended on western civilization bringing with them violence, fire and death, to every part of Europe they came.

The subhuman hordes would stop at nothing in their bid to overthrow the world of light and knowledge, to bring an apocalypse to all human progress and achievement. Their only goal is to make a desert wasteland of any nation or race that shines with creativity, goodness and beauty.

The only goal of the subhuman is chaos.

So for millennia this law of nature, the conflict between man and his anti-man, the subhuman has occurred. Over and over a new Attila, and new Genghis Khan, appears at the gates of Europe attempting to wreak havoc and destruction on mankind and his creations.

But today Bolshevism is the new Attila, the personification of the subhuman horde and its destructive power! But Bolshevism is not a phenomenon of just our time, not a product of our modern era. Neither has Bolshevism evolved within the framework of human history.

Bolshevism is as old as the Jew itself! Lenin and Stalin are only two who have prepared the way for this new horde!

Russian Steppes and Siberian forests

“When a nation loses its leaders by blood and violence, the next step becomes their state, then economic, cultural and spiritual slavery. All that remains of such a nation, tainted by the mixing of blood and race, is the feeling of lost identity. They lose their own unique significance, and soon enough the nation ceases to exist. Only those that can be preserved, untainted, can prove that this nation ever existed”.

Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler 1935

On the infinite a steppes of Russian territory lay Eastern Europe. A sharp contrast is noticed when comparing central Europe with this enormous space. On both sides of the border is the same earth but not the same man.

It is the man who makes his mark on the landscape, while on the German side is planned orderly fields yielding abundant harvests; the other side is only impenetrable forests, vast and unkempt, miles of uninhabited steppes where even the rivers wind endlessly through the nothingness.

This poorly kept land which hides fertile soil could be a paradise for man, a potential "California of Europe" alive with fields and fruit, but instead it lies neglected and wasted, lost to the abyss of cultural nihilism.

This land cries out against the subhuman and his wasteful ways! This fertile black earth watered by burning tears, is only barely separated from the rest of Europe. However its Eastern European masters have not risen above their primitive ways.

The subhuman horde from

Der Untermensch

The land sees only chaos and wastes because it is not cared for by true man, the bearer of high culture and genius, who would manage its development, and bring civilization to its soil instead of only cruel and endless war, and destruction.

Certainly, the developed nations of Central and Western Europe wanted to secure this land, it was their purpose. First there were the Goths and the Varangians, who based there empires in this territory and introduced culture. Then the Swedish, Flemish, the Dutch, Shwabs and Lower-Saxon settlers, attempted to bring light into the darkness. The cry for help sounded for centuries from these lands.

Even Peter the Great, Catherine II and all the rest called the German peasant and the German officer, a European scientist! A physician and engineer. But once again the forces of darkness, and the subhuman prevailed, the German spirit, which came to these lands to help, was brutally and senselessly destroyed.

The subhuman has challenged humanity, thus began the terrible invasion of Attila and Gengis Khan!

On their small ugly steppe horses, the subhuman hordes appearing as if they were part of the animal, growing out of its fur, descended onto Europe with their inhuman cry!

Their narrow eyes shone with excitement and the greedy bloodthirsty desire to reign down fire and destruction on all in their path.

"The splinter of humanity"

The cry “the Huns come” was heard for centuries and became synonymous with fear and loathing. Russia became the stepping stone for where the subhuman ideology and doctrine burst forth against the world of light.

Repeatedly these wild barbarians with sharpened spears, cursing and foaming at the mouth came to bring destruction to the cultured west.

The red poet Peter Oreshchin in one of his writings said:

“Holy mother earth shakes under the stomping of millions of feet. The sickle of the moon was hidden behind the mosque and the cross of church. This is the end to the lights of Paris.

From the steppe rises the smoke of the victims, brought to their new god. London sinks under the waters. All of Berlin lies in ruins. The sweet moan of the noble, that perishes in combat. Hordes will sweep toward Mont Blanc and will traverse Gods valleys.

So the nomadic Kirghizs pray to a new world!”

The hidden Jew

“And here are they again here, these Huns, these splinters of inhumanity, a nightmare become reality, punch to the face of all that is kind and good.

“…at ease with their own primitive nature, in full knowledge of the repulsions from all of mankind they are a suitable tool in the hands of their master the eternal Jew! There leader in organized mass murder remains camouflaged in his civilian dress, the Jew is only invisible to the naive fools”

Mulattos and Finn-Asian barbarians, Gipsy’s and black skin savages all make up this modern underworld of subhuman’s that is always headed by the appearance of the eternal Jew.

The desire of the subhuman is for the German peasant, and all the people of the Europe to be destroyed and completely eradicated from the face of the earth.

This is the price of “humanity“. This is the fate of civilized society, to be sacrificed in blood.

Jews as subhuman leaders

Now the Jew wants to walk in absolute confidence. So it made itself an officer, a commissioner, an outstanding leader of the subhuman horde. →

The German Aryan Knight stands as the bulwark against the subhuman horde, noble fighters for all that is good, keeping Europe from descending into the pit of savagery and stupidity.

Beasts in human forStalin - Subhuman No 1

The subhuman will always be a subhuman, as a Jew remains a Jew, no matter by what name they call themselves: Churchill, Roosevelt, or Stalin.

Either way we are repulsed by them and Stalin along with his allies and comrades is:

Subhuman No. 1!


Again and again you keep showing yourself to be what you are - a manipulator of history. Slavs were Aryans too whether you want to admit it or not. You lied earlier on about a book claiming the biological inferiority yet this is not even in the book you claimed (Encyclopedia of the Third Reich). You are constantly showing yourself up.

All Europeans were racially considered "Aryans". The term untermenschen "sub-humans" was never once described to the Slavs.

Also read this...

Heinrich Himmler about The treatment of Foreign Nationalists in the East

In the treatment of foreign nationalists in the East we have it
see as much as possible to recognize individual nations and
maintain, so in addition to the Poles and Jews, Ukrainians, Belorussians,
the highlanders, Lemken and Kashubian. If somewhere else
Are to find people splitter, also this.

I want to say that we are not only the greatest interest
have, not to unite the population of the East, but on the contrary
to dissect into as many parts and splinter.

But even within the nations themselves, we do not have the
Interest, this lead to unity and greatness of them might
maybe gradually national consciousness and national culture
but teach them in innumerable small fragments and particles
dissolve.

The members of all these nations, particularly small,
We obviously want the services of police officers and
Use mayors.

Peaks in these nations, only the mayor and the
his local police authorities in the highlanders, the individual is
already feuding clan chiefs and elders. One
Summary must not give up, because only in that
We all this Völkerbrei the General of 15 million
and dissolve the 8 million of the eastern provinces, it is possible for us
be to carry out the racial screening, in the foundation
must be our considerations, the racially Precious from this porridge
fish out to do to Germany, to assimilate them there.

Even in quite a few years - I imagine in 4-5 years -
must, for example, the concept of Kashubian be unknown because it
then there is no longer a Kashubian people (that is particularly well
for the West Prussia). The term Jew I hope by
Possibility of a large emigration of all Jews to Africa
or otherwise completely wipe out a colony to see. It must be in a
also be slightly longer time possible in our area, the
People's notions of Ukrainians, highlanders and Lemken disappear from.
The same thing is said for this splinter nations, is in the
correspondingly larger context for the Poland.

A fundamental issue in solving all these problems is the
School question, and thus the question of sifting and screening of youth.
There must be no higher for the non-German population of the East
Enter school than the four-class elementary school. The objective of this
Elementary school only has to be:

Simple arithmetic to more than 500, letter of the name, the teaching,
that it is a divine command to be obedient to the Germans and
To be honest, hardworking and well behaved. Read I do not think
required.

Besides this school, there may not be any schools in the East.
Parents to their children from the outset a better education
both in elementary school and later at a secondary school
want to convey, must submit an application to the Higher SS and
Police leaders make. The application is then primarily
decide whether the child racially impeccable and our conditions
is similar. We identify such a child as our blood,
opens the parents that the child to a school for
Germany comes and stays for life in Germany.

So cruel and tragic each individual case may be, as this is
Method, when the Bolshevik method of physical
Extermination of a people out of inner conviction as un-Germanic and
impossible to refuse, but the mildest and best.

The parents of these children are of good blood given the choice,
either give away the child - then it probably does not
produce more children, so the risk that this
Subhuman people of the East by those people a good blood
dangerous for us as evenly matched layer receives leader, goes out -
or the parents agree to go to Germany and there
to be loyal citizens. A strong handle, which you give them
opposite has is her love for her child, whose future and its
Training depends on the loyalty of parents.

Apart from the examination of the applications, the parents in order to better
Provide education, takes place annually in total for all 6 - to
A 10-year screening of all children by the General
blutlich Precious and non-value solid. The valuable On the Seventh
be treated in the same way as the children due
approved the request of their parents were admitted.

As emotionally and intellectually, of course, I consider it
that the children and parents at the moment to look out for
Germany will, in schools and in life is not like lepers
be treated, but after changing their name to the German
Life - with all the attention and vigilance, we devote
must - be built on trust. It must not be such that the
Children like to feel exhausted, but because we believe in this
our own blood, which in German history through the errors
has flowed into a foreign nationality, and are convinced that
our beliefs and our ideals in the same racial soul
these children will find an echo. Here, however, must be especially
of the teachers and of the leaders in the Hitler Youth. an entire line
be drawn, and it must never like in the past when the
Alsace-Lorraine of mistakes are made, that a part the
People want to win as German and partly in any other
Opportunity by mistrust and abuse in their human
Worth, pride and sense of honor and offends repels. Insults such as
"Polack" or "Ukrainians" or similar must be impossible.

The education has to take place in a preschool for their 4 classes
You can then decide whether to continue the children in the German
Lets go elementary school or whether they a national policy
Educational institution supplies.

The population of the General Government is then necessarily
according to a consistent implementation of these measures over the
next 10 years from a residual population inferior,
nor by the population of the eastern provinces and expelled all '
Part of the German Empire, the same racial and
human kind have (parts, such as the Sorbs and Wends), together.

This population is a leaderless people work available
Germany annually and are migrant workers and laborers
special labor resources (roads, quarries, buildings), provide;
they will even like to eat more and to live than under the
Polish rule and their own lack of culture under the
rigorous, consistent and equitable management of the German people
be called upon to participate in the eternal cultural acts and monuments
and this what the amount of the coarse work is concerned, perhaps only
allow.

"the subhuman people of the East" - read the article and you will see he is speaking about the Jewish Bolsheviks not Eastern Europeans/Slavs.

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To my knowledge, the book ''Der Untermensch'' was concerned with the bolshevik man, as opposed to the national-socialist man. Germanic members of the Communist Party were considered untermensch, as would be those of the Communist Party of Great Britain.
Correct. Der Untermensch "The Subhuman" was not about Slavs but the Communist-Jewish Bolsheviks.

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This English translation has some flaws, but it clearly shows that the Nazis viewed people of Eastern Europe as inferiors. As disorderly people who were not capable of creating their own culture and state, that is.

"[Eastern Europe] saw only chaos because it lacked a man, a valuable bearer of the culture [...]"
Not true. This is showing Soviets who WERE regarded as Untermenschen subhumans it is not about Slavs. Hitler believed that the Russians were incapable of leading their own state and that is why the Jewish Bolsheviks were in power there, Hitler attempted to liberate Russia and the Russians from the Jews.

In the case of Russians:

Q: Is it true that the Germans referred to the Russians as "subhumans"?

A: Nonsense! The Russians are human beings just like everyone else.

Your question, whether we called the Russians "subhumans," is nonsense. We had a first-class relationship with the Russian people. The only exception, which was a problem we dealt with, was with the Soviet Commissars, who were all Jews. These people stood behind the lines with machine guns, pushing the Russian soldiers into battle. And anyway, we made quick work of them. That was according to order. This was during a war for basic existence, an ideological war, when such a policy is simply taken for granted.

There was sometimes talk about the so-called Asian hordes, and ordinary soldiers sometimes spoke about subhumans, but such language was never officially used.

An Interview With General Otto Ernst Remer, read further http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v10/v10p108_Schoeman.html

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Old October 19th, 2013 #330
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He wasn't anti-slavic.
he was anti jewish, arab and nigger (and many others)
 
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Another bit of evidence is the examples that the National Socialists used as people of Aryan descent in the Ahnenpass which was one's proof of Aryan descent, it explicitly mentions two Slavic ethnic groups as examples of Aryans, the Poles and Czechs.

Arischer Abstammung ist demnach derjenige Mensch, der frei von einem, vom deutschen Volke aus gesehen, fremdrassigen Blutseinschlage ist. Als fremd gilt hier vor allem das Blut der auch im europäischen Siedlungsraume lebenden Juden und Zigeuner, das der asiatischen und afrikanischen Rassen und der Ureinwohner Australiens und Amerikas (Indianer), während z.B. ein Engländer oder Schwede, ein Franzose oder Tscheche, ein Pole oder Italiener, wenn er selbst frei von solchen, auch ihm fremden Blutseinschlägen ist, als verwandt, also als arisch gelten muß, mag er nun in seiner Heimat oder in Ostasien oder in Amerika wohnen oder mag er Bürger der U.S.A. oder eines südamerikanischen Freistaates sein.

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Aryan is thus the one man who looked free from, the German people, strange racial impact is blood. Deemed to be a stranger here, especially the blood of the living room and in the European settlement of Jews and Gypsies, the Asian and African breeds, and the aborigines of Australia and America (Indians), while, for example, a Swede or an Englishman, a Frenchman or Czech, a Pole or Italian, if he is free of such, even that is foreign blood strikes, when used, must therefore be considered severally liable, he may now live in his home, in East Asia or in America or he likes a U.S. citizen or a South American Free State be.

Slavs were regarded just as Aryan as Germans.
 
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Just to confirm that the brochure Der Untermensch was not about Slavs read below. It's quite annoying that so many authors/historians use this as "evidence" the Germans showed Slavs to be Untermenschen (or "sub-humans") yet the word "Slav" "Slavs" Slavic" does not even appear once in the whole brochure!

As the summer of 1941 the Wehrmacht invaded the Soviet Union, the Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler issued a booklet entitled The sub-human. The book should stir up the German population to hatred against the peoples of the Soviet Union and strengthen the morale of the troops. Not as often assumed against the Slavic peoples, because this word does not appear in the brochure.

http://desertwar.net/untermensch.html

n the summer of 1941 the Wehrmacht invaded the Soviet Union , published the Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler, a booklet entitled The sub-human . The book should stir up the German population to hatred against the peoples of the Soviet Union and strengthen the morale of the troops. Not as often assumed against the Slavic peoples , because this word does not appear in the brochure. The writing was both Western Europe and in the Slavic allies of Germany such as Croatia, Slovakia and Bulgaria enormous appeal, the relevant issue was printed in the national language.

The booklet contained less information about the Soviet Union and communism, but encouraged especially primitive racial prejudice. The vast majority consisted of photos, the Soviet and not, as often assumed, showed only Russian POWs with grotesque faces in distorted form.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unterme...ensch_von_1942
 
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Well, even if Hitler related Aryans more like Blonde westerner ppl, the true look of Aryans would be like iranians.
Cause the iranians regard themselves as the pure aryans and the term is originally descending from india.. along with the swastika (sonnenrad)

There are some non-white russians for sure who absorbed asian dna which explains the look.
 
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Aryan root-race.


.Real Aryan




Aryans had lite olive skin tone. They didn't have strikingly yellow blonde hair.
More akin to Western Slavs than Germanii német from my estimation.

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"Mingrelian (Aryan Kartli) woman with traditional musical instrument."


Over 3,000 Aryan dolmens and other structures can be found in the North-Western Caucasus,
where more and more dolmens are discovered in the mountains each year.
Kurgan mounds also mark the early migration of aryan inhabitants.
 
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The Nazis completely prohibited the use of Slovene language, started to germanize the local names and destroy Slovene literature.
Hitler said to the chief of civilian administration of Lower Štajerska on 26 April 1941 in Maribor:

»Machen Sie mir dieses Land deutsch, so deutsch, wie die übrige Steiermark«.

The Nazis decided that they will inspect the racial structure of Slovenes in Štajerska. If the person was considered racially acceptable, he would be germanised. On 6 May the Nazis were contemplating the future of the Slovenian nation: They decided that they will deport around 260 000 Slovenians in three waves. Hitler at first didn't allow deportations to Croatia, so they were deporting them to Serbia and Bulgaria instead.

On 8 May the Nazis jailed the members of Slovenian intelligentsia — 895 men and 57 women.

In December the Nazis calculated that they have managed to deport only 34 000 Slovenes. The land was still not ready for the annexation. They started to work harder and in January 1942 ordered that Slovene language must unconditionally disappear (the term "Slovenian" was to be forbidden; if necessary, the expression "windisch" should be used). The Nazi liquidation commissars were given the task of dissolving the circles of Slovenian intelligentsia.

Steindl wrote that the Slovenian press must completely disappear from Štajerska. He also wrote that there must be no Slovene names for streets and market-places in the cities. Same plan for the inscriptions on churches and chapels (for "psychological reasons" he allowed inscriptions on the graves).

On 27 September 1942 Franz Steidl declared that after 1 May 1943 the lack of German language skills in Maribor will not be tolerated.


Mikuž, Zgodovina Slovenskega osvobodilnega boja

Ferenc Tone, Nacisti na raznarodovalna politika v Sloveniji v letih 1941 – 1945, Okupacija slovenske Štajerske in Gorenjske
 
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I've never said that Croatian language is of Gothic origin. It isn't. I'm only showing you that "Ustaše ideology created a theory about a pseudo-Gothic origin of the Croats in order to raise their standing on the Aryan ladder."
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From Ante Pavelić's Hrvatsko pitanje. He says the Croats are not of Slavic descent, they are in fact Goths.

It was originally written in German for the German political circles.
 
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Old November 11th, 2013 #340
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From Ante Pavelić's Hrvatsko pitanje. He says the Croats are not of Slavic descent, they are in fact Goths.

It was originally written in German for the German political circles.

Who cares what Pavelic said for chauvinistic and political purposes.

Croats are a Slavic nation.

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