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Old January 11th, 2014 #121
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Yawn. Can we get back to jews?
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Old January 11th, 2014 #122
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I have actually read both links provided.

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When he went to his long-term counselor, the counselor completely cleared him of pedophilia and wrote a document to that effect. Kevin Strom is probably the only man within a thousand miles certified NOT to be a pedophile.
Harvey Yoder is NOT a qualified sexual abuse counsellor with the power to declare such things. He is a Mennonite pastor and a personal friend of Kevin's Mum. Kevin's Mum paid for the "counselling" session. That's the first part out of the way. Do I need to highlight the flaw there? Really?

Second. Harvey Yoder said (paraphrased because it's very late here so if you want links, you'll have to wait till my AM) that Kevin wasn't a paedophile because the girls on met Art were over 18. He then went on to say that he (Yoder) wasn't qualified to state if the girls on Met Art were over 18.

There is, I understand, a disclaimer on Met Art stating that all the girls featured are over 18. Well, if you ask me, the defence then is simple. You print out the disclaimer, show it to the judge and tell him to kiss your arse that to the best of your knowledge, you have committed no crime. You thought the girls were all over 18. Case dismissed.

However, the photo he was charged with wasn't from Met Art, was it? You don't get charged with looking at normal, adult, naked women. The one photo he ended up copping to was encrypted. You don't encrypt photos of normal adult women.

Yoder was not qualified to "clear" anyone of paedophilia. He has no more authority than any of us to state whether someone is or isn't a paedophile.

Why wasn't this report used in court to exonerate Kevin or get him a lighter sentence? Well, there's a few choices.

It was paid for by Kevin's Mum. You hire a tradesman, he does what you tell him.

It didn't address the child porn, only the normal porn.

It wasn't written by any sort of qualified professional. It carried no weight at all.

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As for the newspaper article - again: if the NA wants to spend the majority of its time combatting objections to one of its leaders being a convicted paedophile who features on the Megan's Law website as such - well, good luck to it.
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Old January 11th, 2014 #123
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I think anything coming from a vindictive wife going through a nasty divorce is suspect.

I'm sure Kevin plead guilty because he doesn't have a 6 figure checking account to get an honest trial. Justice is for rich people only.

The truth is, he is a proud white guy that is pro white people, that makes him politically incorrect, and food for the liberal carnivores, namely the jew lawyers and media jackasses that look for anything to sabotage people that are pro-white.

I'm glad he was vindicated, but this is something that never should have happened, had it not been for a scorned vindictive wife, and a divorce. I'm sure she did this to get more alimony and child support money from him. Divorce attorneys thrive on this kind of shit.

He should be compensated for them destroying any and all of his credibility, by all of those responsible for destroying it.

Will he get anything for it? probably not.

I feel bad for the guy. He at least chose to stand up, and they shot him down for it, if any of you think what he did was easy, look at what they did to him.

The liberals want all of us to cower because of this, they want to make him an example, because this can happen to you too, if you have an opinion and express yourself in America.

They are doing the same thing to Edgar Steele, and his family, Matt Hale, Ernst Zundel, and several others, this should only strengthen our resolve to fight harder.
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Old January 11th, 2014 #124
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I'm not sure I even agree with the concept of plea bargaining. Hundreds of murderers avoid the death penalty every year simply by admitting their guilt. A certain crime should attract a certain penalty, period!
Plea bargains also act as payoffs for damning testimony creating motives to lie. "We will let you go free if you witness against so and so".
 
Old January 12th, 2014 #125
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Yawn. Can we get back to jews?
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Maybe jew zog exploded a paedophile grenade next to strom.
Jew zog made him download kiddie porn write love poems to children,crawl around in the bushes at a childs school mastibate over pictures of children make a tape recorded confession and swear in a court of law that he is a sex case.
Those jews sure are crafty devils.

Lucky he was captured before he done some serious harm to a child.
Stalking a child at her school would be one step away from abduction.
Abduction is one step from rape and murder.
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Old January 12th, 2014 #126
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But you should probably leave your children at home. Just saying.
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Old January 12th, 2014 #127
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Look Bev, the guy was desperately trying to prevent 10 freakin years in a nigger infested prison, while branded a child molester, which would amount to a virtual death sentence.

The only way to prevent that, was to get the court to accept his offer to plead guilty to one count of possession of child porn, rather than face a JOG jury and defend against 6 freakin counts - a conviction on just one count could result in 10 years in prison.

In order to get the court's acceptance, Strom was compelled by his wife and prosecutors to confess other things on tape, which may or may not have been true. In other words, his wife probably said, "OK, I'll let him plea bargain, if he'll . . . . ". And so Kevin did. And frankly, any sane WN leader would have, under those circumstances.

Why can't you see this ??
Personally I have my doubt that any sane WN would accept such a "deal". Could you see Commander Rockwell or Dr. Pierce rushing to accept such a "deal"?

Rudolf Hess chose to die in prison instead of taking a "deal" and selling out Adolf Hitler.

If ZOG was so terrified of National Vanguard and had to take out their leader, why leave other groups with thousands of members/supporters unscathed? What did the Feds have to fear from Strom's startup group?

I think some people have forgotten that White men are held to a higher standard and duty and honor actually still meaning something.

Speaking for myself, I'd never accept a "deal" like Strom's. Before I did that, I'd either do the time or put a S&W under my chin.

This whole episode sickens me. Our children deserve better than this.
 
Old January 12th, 2014 #128
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I think anything coming from a vindictive wife going through a nasty divorce is suspect.
Agreed. But when he signed that contract agreeing to get help and admitted it on tape, they weren't going through a divorce. His wife attended some of the counselling sessions with him. The arrest/charges came months later.

He wasn't married to the parents of the little girl he stalked, sent love poems to and sent gifts to so I'm unsure where their vindictiveness came from. Perhaps it stemmed from seeing their little girl too scared to go to school because some perv was leering at her from the bushes outside her playground.

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I'm sure Kevin plead guilty because he doesn't have a 6 figure checking account to get an honest trial. Justice is for rich people only.
I'm sure he plead guilty so he could get some of the charges dropped and get a lighter sentence.
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The truth is, he is a proud white guy that is pro white people, that makes him politically incorrect, and food for the liberal carnivores, namely the jew lawyers and media jackasses that look for anything to sabotage people that are pro-white.
The truth is, he is a paedophile that is pro-little girl and that makes him politically untouchable and a millstone around the neck of anyone who cheers him on.

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I'm glad he was vindicated,
Months in prison and 15 years on the sex offenders register is "vindicated"? Having all your neighbours checking the Megans Law paedophile finder website and seeing your photo pop up is "vindicated"?

What's your definition of punishment, then?


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....and his own disgusting, deviant urges.

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I'm sure she did this to get more alimony and child support money from him. Divorce attorneys thrive on this kind of shit.
I'm sure she did it for the same reason anyone finding they were married to a pervert would do it.

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He should be compensated for them destroying any and all of his credibility, by all of those responsible for destroying it.
You don't get compensation for being stupid and admitting - three times - to something you *haven't done*.

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Will he get anything for it? probably not.
Much, I'm sure, to the relief of American taxpayers.

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I feel bad for the guy. He at least chose to stand up, and they shot him down for it, if any of you think what he did was easy, look at what they did to him.
That's what happens when you stand up and plead guilty. That's why the majority of us tend not to commit heinous crimes.
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The liberals want all of us to cower because of this, they want to make him an example, because this can happen to you too, if you have an opinion and express yourself in America.
Well, I don't have the opinion that I want to stalk little girls, send them love poems and gifts or encrypt child porn on my hard drive so I'm not cowering in the slightest.

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They are doing the same thing to Edgar Steele, and his family, Matt Hale, Ernst Zundel, and several others, this should only strengthen our resolve to fight harder.
I wasn't aware any of them had been accused of and freely admitted to paedophilia and threads trying to rehabilitate them don't receive such venom as this one has.

The only resolve that should be strengthened in any of us from this episode is the resolve to ensure we don't allow convicted, self admitted paedophiles to attempt to speak for us.
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Old January 12th, 2014 #129
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I think anything coming from a vindictive wife going through a nasty divorce is suspect.

I'm sure Kevin plead guilty because he doesn't have a 6 figure checking account to get an honest trial. Justice is for rich people only.

The truth is, he is a proud white guy that is pro white people, that makes him politically incorrect, and food for the liberal carnivores, namely the jew lawyers and media jackasses that look for anything to sabotage people that are pro-white.

I'm glad he was vindicated, but this is something that never should have happened, had it not been for a scorned vindictive wife, and a divorce. I'm sure she did this to get more alimony and child support money from him. Divorce attorneys thrive on this kind of shit.

He should be compensated for them destroying any and all of his credibility, by all of those responsible for destroying it.

Will he get anything for it? probably not.

I feel bad for the guy. He at least chose to stand up, and they shot him down for it, if any of you think what he did was easy, look at what they did to him.

The liberals want all of us to cower because of this, they want to make him an example, because this can happen to you too, if you have an opinion and express yourself in America.

They are doing the same thing to Edgar Steele, and his family, Matt Hale, Ernst Zundel, and several others, this should only strengthen our resolve to fight harder.
Well said, PWG.

The JOG law said Strom was guilty no matter who put the porn on his computer. Just think of that. The law, in fact, made it impossible for him to defend himself since nobody, except a hermit, can prove someone else put something on his or her own computer.

Shit, I have lots of friends, relatives, and friends of relatives in my house all the time. And many times, when I'm not even at home. Any one of them could easily plant child porn on my computer. I'd never know it. I wouldn't know it was there until the cops came and arrested me. And I couldn't prove I didn't put it there myself. The law says it's my PC (personal computer), therefore I'm legally responsible for everything on it.

If the JOG pulls that on any one of us genuine WNs, we'll either be doomed to 10 or more years in prison for a child sex crime, or else we'll plea bargain like Strom did, and sign any agreement with our wives, to boot.

Will Williams, one of the most trusted and brilliant WNs out there in my opinion, says Strom is innocent and was framed by his wife. I believe him. We should give Strom the benefit of any and all minor doubts cast by the GD jews, both overt jews, and crypto jews on this forum.
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Your opinion isn't worth a pinch of shit, no matter how loud-mouthed and obnoxious you are, Snitchy Miller.

Tell me - is this all a deliberate attempt by you to bring the Movement into disrepute by promoting a paedophile as a WN leader, or are you really that fucking stupid and senile?

With your record, if you had any sense of shame at all, you'd bury yourself in a hole and never, ever show your traitorous face to anyone, ever again. But here you are, attempting to expedite the re-entry of a paedophile into WN politics and calling other people jews when they point out how fucking stupid and harmful that is. Now that, THAT, is the textbook definition of 'chutzpah'.

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I wonder if this most recent attempt to reconstitute the NA will perform criminal background checks on prospective membership?

Because that would be....awkward.
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This a disgusting thread. The National alliance is not going to have anything to do with VNN. I see that April Gaede says she would blow Kevin's head off and Linder, who makes the rules, says no one who supports Kevin Strom will be allowed on his forum. "Strom should kill himself." So be it. This from the fellow who was in cahoots with Bill White and Elisha Strom, attacking Kevin.
Say what you want about Bill White, but unlike Strom he was railroaded by the Jew legal system on trumped up charges.

Any sane woman would have divorced Strom under the circumstances.

Will Williams isn't doing himself any favors by hitching his wagon to the pedo podcaster.
 
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Will Williams isn't doing himself any favors by hitching his wagon to the pedo podcaster.
One thing they have going for them is that the media won't ever bring Strom's pedophilia up when referencing the organization.
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Strom should not be touched with a ten-foot-pole.

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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/america...-foundations-1

A NEW YEAR & A PERVERTED FALSE PROPHET RETURNS

Our Movement continues to suffer from schizophrenia. All our great Organizations are gone or are in danger of going or have fallen to ethically challenged “Leaders”. Now, a recycled and defective “leader”, who is a convicted Child- possessor (plead guilty), has reemerged and has illegally claimed the mantle to the National Alliance and now seeks to lead our People.

http://www.pameganslaw.state.pa.us/O...fenderId=19060

http://www.nbc29.com/global/story.asp?s=5894604

http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/wh....html?mode=jqm

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/2...nuary-14-2008/

If our Movement is going to survive, we as a People must cease our compulsive-Hollywood desire for “personalities” at the expense of a Worldview and a “White Knight” at the expense of a real Movement. We as a People cannot allow charlatans, felons, drug addicts, movement capitalists, and above all pedophiles to attempt to position themselves to speak in OUR name and on behalf of OUR people and least of our for our Children. We must collectively shun this scum.

We have a moral obligation to our children and to our Race shun and drive these types from our Movement in our very own political Knight of the Long Knives.
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Say what you want about Bill White, but unlike Strom he was railroaded by the Jew legal system on trumped up charges.

Any sane woman would have divorced Strom under the circumstances.

Will Williams isn't doing himself any favors by hitching his wagon to the pedo podcaster.
Actually he gave the Jews the rope they used for hanging him too. It wasn't so much bad judgement as posting while drunk, at least that is my guess.
 
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Actually he gave the Jews the rope they used for hanging him too. It wasn't so much bad judgement as posting while drunk, at least that is my guess.
Let's say he was zealously prosecuted for things that would be ignored if they were done by someone uninvolved in politics.
 
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Will and Strom's new National Alliance is meeting with a much better reception on Stormfront than on VNNF.

Check out this SF thread: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t443513-54/

Also check out the new National Alliance headquarters building, located in the mountains of Tennessee by scrolling down to post #536 (page 54). Will built this building by himself over years of hard labor, on his own land, and entirely at his own expense. HOW'S THAT FOR DEDICATION TO OUR CAUSE ???!!!
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Strom should not be touched with a ten-foot-pole.
Actually he SHOULD be. From behind, Vlad Tepes style!
 
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