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Haven't gone over the thread with a fine-toothed comb, but I spotted that "Adolf hitler is our savior" song right off the bat. It's from anti-german propaganda film
Vance, is that image from a Chick Publications comic? Sure looks like it. Come on, guys. We can get anti-white stuff anywhere. Quote:
Can't see the old Nazi party being particularly pro or anti Christianity or "god", either way. "Deist" is probably accurate enough, as suggest by the first couple of posts. Seems they did their best when avoiding religion, not suppressing or promoting.
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I like plants ok, don't have anything against them, but you better be a very old and large tree or I'm not going to feel anything like reverence for you, much less love. The Rosenberg quote kinda reminded me of this thread http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=168476
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The film involves American actors? The sneaky sods. Thanks for that. I'll give it the chop pronto. I knew the film was used as propaganda against National Socialism. But didn't realise it was an Hollywood production. I found it yesterday while googling for videos. It had me fooled.
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Atheist and Darwinist Christopher Hitchens gets all butt hurt after being branded a fascist. I don't recall Hitler stating in Mein Kampf that he was doing God's work, and following God's will, in destroying the Jewish people? This is what Hitler said: Quote:
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The Hitler Faith
The realization that National-Socialism includes a spiritual, religious dimension, in which Adolf Hitler plays a central role, goes back to the very earliest days of the NS movement.
Some have referred to this belief as the "Hitler Faith." Here, on my SF blog "Do Right and Fear No One!", is an account of that faith that traces its history from its origin through the early 2000's: THE HITLER FAITH: Its First 100 Years http://www.stormfront.org/forum/blogs/u224711-e3246
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Background: This is a pamphlet outlining Nazi racial theories. It seems to have been intended primarily for members of the SS, though the copy I am working from carries the stamp of a school library. The book also suggests a plan for covering the content of the booklet in eleven class periods, indicating it was intended for use in the schools.
The source: Der Reichsführer SS/SS-Hauptamt, Rassenpolitik (Berlin, 1943 [?]). Chapter 1: Racial Thinking “I speak prophetically. Just as the discovery that the earth moved around the sun led to a complete transformation of the way people looked at the world, so too the blood and racial teachings of National Socialism will change our understanding of mankind’s past and its future.” (The Führer before the Reichstag on 30 January 1937) The 15th and 16th centuries during the Middle Ages were a period when the Nordic spirit found characteristic expression in the Copernicus’s teaching that the earth revolved around the sun. The earth, which formerly was thought to be the center of the universe, became a small planet that was just as subject to the harmony of eternal laws as the course of the stars. The former world of appearances collapsed, and the Nordic spirit opened the door to a new scientific worldview. As a result of his revolutionary discovery, the worldview the Medieval Church had so successfully built to control people’s minds gradually fell apart over the following centuries. Today’s scientifically-based worldview freed us from the spiritual domination of the priesthood. We owe to it our great advances in technology, the sciences, and economics. Today we are in the middle of another revolutionary epoch. Revolutionary scientific understandings of genetics and race have found political expression in the National Socialist worldview. Once again a world of appearances collapsed, which had concealed from our eyes the true nature of humanity and the connections between body, soul, and spirit. Quote:
“The human soul does not exist independent of the body, as the Church teaches. Body and soul are an inseparable unity. The living body is the manifestation of the soul.” "There were once prophets who preached a separation between body, soul and spirit. One cannot separate these three things. If you remove the body, nothing is left of the soul and spirit. If you remove the soul, you have a lifeless, cold being, and if you remove the spirit, you are left with a tragic idiot. These three things belong together." Fate — I believe! by Robert Ley I believe 'spirit' relates to divinity that exists in all living things which everything is a part of, and 'soul' to individual consciousness. Body and soul are an inseparable unity according to the NS doctrine.
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I understand why some people--even some National-Socialists--respond with skepticism, eye-rolling and face-palming when they first encounter the idea of NS as a religion.
It just seems too over-the-top. I know, because that was my initial response when I first learned of it. It was shocking, jarring--but also a little intriguing. Once I was able to get over my initial surprise, however, and subject the idea to rational scrutiny, I was able to ask myself: Which is a better alternative for the White Man:
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‘Gottlglaubig’
Top far right the word ‘Gottlglaubig’ is clearly printed alongside the groom's name. 'Catholic' alongside the bride's "Also the document pictured is the only reference I can recall I have in the file which contains the reference to the man's ‘Gottlglaubig’ beliefs. As you can see the Groom is Gottglaubig and the Bride is Catholic, so we have a non-Christian marrying a Christian. Not unusual but the only document I have which shows his religion. To my understanding Gottglaubig is completely non-Christian. A source for an explanation as to the belief from the period comes from Martin Bormann." Quote(2): Quote:
http://www.ns-kunst.com/ss-hochzeitsteller-603-2 Armin Bauer Armin Bauer was born 13-10-1919 in Neundorf. In 1937, when he was around 18 years old his mother died. He was in the Hitler Jugend where he got the HJ Ehrenzeichen. Quote:
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I have always believed in evolution because the evidence for it is overwhelming. It is a scientific fact. But I have always believed that every living thing must contain some kind of 'soul' or spirit because everything in existence is energy, and nothing in nature can be annihilated out of existence. Studying David Myatt's material filled in the gaps for me regarding the nature of 'god'. We have a spiritual nuclear bomb on our side. The NS blood religion has the potential to be an Aryan version of Islam. Religion and politics is such a potent combination. If only.... Just 3.5% of Germans registered as deists during Hitler's revolution. This I find surprising considering the totalitarian nature of the regime. The National Socialists clearly had problems in converting Christian Germans en masse to the religion of blood and race. No wonder Hitler never publicly renounced his 'Catholic faith' other than in private to his inner circle. Mark Weber concludes his lecture with the admission that Hitler was a deist. Quote:
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"It is necessary that I should die for my people; but my spirit will rise from the grave,
and the world will know that I was right." Adolf Hitler Religion Life comes from God and returns to God. All life and all races follow God’s ordinances. No people and no race can ignore them. We want the German youth to again recognize the religious nature of life. They must realize that God wants the individual as well as the whole people, and that they lose contact with life when they lose contact with God! God and nation are the two foundations of the life of the individual and the community. We want no shallow and superficial piety, but rather a deep faith that God guides the world, that he controls it, and a consciousness of the relationship between God and each individual, and between God and the live of the people and the fatherland. The National Socialist state will promote such a deeply religious educational system. We want parents to support and strengthen this by honesty and by good example. Race, military training, leadership, religion! These are the four unshakable foundations of the new German National Socialist education! Unmistakably Gottglaubig. The source: “Die Erziehungsgrundsätze des neuen Deutschlands,” Frauen-Warte, #22 (1936/37), pp. 692-693. The Educational Principles of the New Germany: What Schools and Parents Need to Know About the Goals of National Socialist Education
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The Final Political Testament of Adolf Hitler
What we have to fight for is the necessary security for the existence and increase of our race and people, the subsistence of its children and the maintenance of our racial stock unmixed, the freedom and independence of the Fatherland; so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator.
- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 8 The Oath of Loyalty to Adolf Hitler "I swear by God this sacred oath that to the Leader of the German empire and people, Adolf Hitler, supreme commander of the armed forces, I shall render unconditional obedience and that as a brave soldier I shall at all times be prepared to give my life for this oath." The Religion of National Socialism Quote:
an intellectual heavyweight with an IQ off the richter scale. The Final Political Testament of Adolf Hitler. Intriguing comment made about his spirit after 8 mins.
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Did Ernst Haeckel's 'materialistic pantheism' influence the ideology of National Socialism? Quote:
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English translate: http://www.greatwar.nl/books/meinkampf/meinkampf.pdf When I had read Mein Kampf first time I watched means without players from background,so later I have seen interpretation NS from Martin Bormann in short text named "relationship between NS and Christianity" I have concluded that it has deistic prism. Can somebody tell me something about relationship on route Crowley-Eckart-Hitler? Did someone read book "Medusas head" by John Symonos? A long time I am looking for this book,have someone link for this book? I have read that is on this book talks between Crowley and Hitler and also read that Eckart was Crowley student and that Crowley have called on Hitler 50. bithday. Was on NS finally philosophy impacted such occult players and impacted on Hitlers thinking? In Mein Kampf I can't find any kind of indication NS religion,just political party but after Mein Kampf I can see indication NS as religion ,because someone changed Hitlers opinion? Last edited by Fico; July 29th, 2014 at 06:53 PM. |
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The two universes in which we live:
Spirit (unorganised) and Matter (organised). "In his work entitled, Earth in the Beginning, Eric Skousen teaches us some very important things about our universe. He speaks of not one, but two universes. The organized universe, and the unorganized universe. The organized universe is located inside the unorganized universe. The picture below, taken from his book, will help illustrate this point." Article by a Mormon no less! From a spiritual perspective Quote:
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Our universe is inside a larger multidimensional universe. God is the life-force which is present in Nature Imagine the air bubble inside the raindrop (above) is our physical universe with all its space and time dimensions. Outside the air bubble (the raindrop itself) is the 'unorganised' universe (acausal), where spirit is said to originate from, and return to, during the life and death cycle of every living creature. In reality, the unorganised universe itself is merged with the physical universe (causal) as its mirror image, and is multidimensional beyond time and space, and therefore impossible for scientists to directly observe and study. Let alone speculate that it even exists to begin with! 'God' resides in the unorganised universe as pure spirit, and all life existing in Nature is connected to the unorganised universe via their spirit. God's very existence depends on the complexity, or order, of organic life in Nature and throughout the Cosmos itself. That all organic life is subject to the competing, destructive and evolutionary, forces of order and chaos, and that the universe itself exists as two distinct, and connected, parts, as a whole. One visible and tangible, the other invisible and beyond our physical senses. One matter, the other spirit. One organised, the other unorganised. One causal, the other acausal. Both co-existing in a symbiotic relationship to each other. Quote:
He almost works it out at 20 seconds!! Example two of 'String Theory' could very well be the 'unorganised universe' itself. It took four-Billion years for the eternal creator to evolve from primordial chaos. Order, Evolution and Eternity All higher lifeforms in Nature are evolving and competing against each other to become 'God' and achieve 'immortality' with the eternal creator. Souls that exist as lower lifeforms also have an opportunity to climb the evolutionary ladder until they themselves achieve immortality with the eternal creator. Because we ourselves once started out life as primitive lifeforms in the primordial soup, and we can return there again. This is not some form of abstract morality, or fear mongering, designed for a political purpose. It is a simple wisdom. Hell does not exist. But what does exist is primordial chaos - a cosmic living Hell, where life is starting to evolve from primitive lifeforms, or where life on a planet is slowly baked to a crisp by its dying star. If all higher lifeforms ceased to exist in the universe, God would lose all consciousness until all life evolved back to where it was before chaos took hold. All life, from the micro to the macro, is in a state of eternal flux. There is no escaping from it. All life starts from primordial chaos, and eventually comes to an end when a star dies. In between these two extremes, we have a limited time to escape from our solar system in order to colonise space; to create order from chaos by 'seeding' new life among the stars and planets of the universe. If we fail to conquer space, then primordial chaos is all we have got to look forward to for another four-Billion years of evolution - unless there is advanced life elsewhere in the universe, then our souls might continue their evolutionary journey there. The Soul and Immortality There is no death, only change. The universe is eternal despite what materialistic science would like you to believe. Science does not recognise the existence of spirit, or the unorganised universe where it is derived from. But spirit exists, and I hope this article (and links) has convinced you that there is more to life than just birth and death, and that our ultimate God-given destiny of 'immortality' is within our grasp. Because, like it or not, the white race is the pinnacle of human evolution. We are the eternal creator's chosen people. We have earned that right by virtue of evolution. However, we cannot rest on our laurels. It is our spiritual duty as individuals to fight against chaos and live in an evolutionary way by avoiding what is harmful to ourselves, both physically and spiritually. We should seek to improve ourselves by striving for excellence at all times, and by selflessly putting the well-being of the common good before any self-interest. By marrying among our own kind only, and by nurturing as many genetically healthy children as possible. Only then can we further evolve as a species. Only then can we avoid the fate of primordial chaos. Only then can we finally break free from the endless cycle of life and death and become 'immortal' with the eternal creator for however long that may be. All life is in a state of flux, and 'immortality' itself is subject to the forces of order and chaos. No Higher Lifeforms = No God! The eternal creator is constantly evolving consciousness and self-awareness. Its soul is our soul. God's consciousness is multidimensional and transcends both time and space. But only lifeforms that have evolved to the highest biological and spiritual state can achieve 'immortality' and become one with the eternal creator. God is within our blood and race. Our blood is holy.
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National Socialism doesn't have to be a religion. It can suffice as a political movement that sets the example for the moral fabric of society, and illustrates how the government as well as the economy should function. As well as how they'll be beneficial to the Nation's founding racial/ethnic group. It isn't even required to use the name "National Socialist" to define the said political party. It can have different names depending on the nation, but regardless of the name it will represent National Socialist values.
Religions that are contrary to the core values of National Socialism SHOULD be stamped out. Obvious candidates are the 3 Semite religions - Judaism, Christianity, Islam, as well as other religions that are of non-White origin. I don't have a problem with Norse Paganism, Heathenism, Creators, Asatru, and a few others. |
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I see a religious conversion analogy in the need for acceptance and repentance on the parts of us whose immediate ancestors wrongfully fought against our best genetic interests by destroying Germany and the better elements of Europe on behalf of our biological enemy, the jew.
It's a conundrum for us that in order to embrace our race as a whole we have to accept the culpability of our immediate ancestors and their baby boomer toadies. In my case I try to deal with it by focusing on correcting their errors more than by condemning them. I treat it as a matter of acceptance of my racial responsibility to them. This is, however, made more difficult by the fact that many of them are still alive, and arrogantly refuse to acknowledge the mistakes. |
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National Socialism is a political solution to the deadly threat of extinction posed to the Aryan Race . Religion is a theology, granted many so called "religions" have ceased to be a religion and become political entities.
The life long Nazi and greatest jurist of the 20th century Carl Schmitt defined it as " When a religion defines enemies or "not friends but others" then it ceases to be a religion and becomes "political". While on the subject those pretentious posters here who think that complicating something makes it "authentic" would do well to study the works of Carl Schmitt. Schmitt is certainly the most studied Nazi in current ruling circles. From the war on terror to the political soldier Schmitt had a handle on all of these issues sixty years ago. Schmitt of course he has never been mentioned here or at stormfront or anywhere else where we proclaim to have the answer and then proceed to make ourselves look like tobies and "the movement" look facetious and of no interest to serious politicians and scholars. National Socialists need to concentrate on the political and could do worse than start by studying Schmitt who has the almost unique honour of refusing to be " de- Nazified". Anyone posting on this thread who then has to go and google Schmitt really needs to ask themselves "What do I know". Followed by how comes "the movement" doesn't promote the one Nazi still cited almost daily by the system and why is "the movement" not claiming credit for him
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Well, I, for one, know enough to know that the proper term is "National-Socialist," not "Nazi."
And that is something you should learn, too, before presuming to lecture the rest of us on what is and what is not properly NS doctrine.
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I mean you are the same bloke who is satisfied with the credentials of Cotterill so you must know what your talking about. Further you have uncritically endorsed the system stooges of National Action and held up their pro apartheid system devised demonstration as a manifestation of support for National Socialism . These two actions ensure that you will never be taken seriously by serious politicians As to National Socialist doctrine, I would have thought an understanding of it's application in the here and now is absolutely essential. Yet I know that you have never heard of Schmitt and are probably downloading "Partisan" right now.
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