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Old March 21st, 2004 #1
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Default Guilt by association? Bullshit.

I do not recall having any contact with this alleged N.A. member, and don't even recognize his name, but since I was the staff member in charge of recruiting and coordinating N.A. members, it wouldn't have been out of the ordinary for me to have exchanged e-mails with him. I exchanged dozens, even hundreds of e-mails a day with members at that time. That does NOT mean that I or anyone else in the N.A. had any knowledge of or approved of any of his actions, however.
Some people have suggested that I gave orders to him that he was following, and that was NOT the case. Noone in the N.A., past or even present, has ever encouraged or suggested that any of their members should do anything illegal, to the best of my knowledge. This is just another case of the government attempting to allege guilt by association. If the F.B.I. seriously believed for a second that I had ever told any member to do anything illegal, they would have already picked me up and I would be locked away, believe that. Especially since they apparently claim to have the e-mail exchanges between this person and myself. If they seriously believed that N.A. was responsible for his actions, they would have already come after them, too. The fact that they haven't done either proves that the government has to admit at least to themselves that he was acting alone and without anyone else's knowledge or approval.


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U. S. Department of Justice
Office of the United States Attorney
Middle District of Tennessee
PRESS RELEASE

CONTACT: Jim Vines
United States Attorney

Paul M. O'Brien
Assistant U.S. Attorney
615-401-6586



NATIONAL ALLIANCE MEMBER MICHAEL E. SMITH SENTENCED TO 121 MONTHS FOR HATE CRIME


NASHVILLE -- Jim Vines, U.S. Attorney for the Middle District of Tennessee, announced that Michael E. Smith, age 35, was sentenced today on federal gun and explosive charges. After a 3 day sentencing hearing, United States District Judge William J. Haynes sentenced Smith to a period of 5 years, the statutory maximum, for his possession of a semi-automatic rifle and a 9mm semi-automatic rifle in a school zone.

Smith was also sentenced to a consecutive period of 61 months for charges related to the possession, manufacture and transportation of 25 destructive devises, including refilled hand grenades and pipe bombs, all of which will be followed by an additional 3 years of supervised release.

"Nazis with bombs, hand grenades and military rifles need to be locked up. Tragedy was on Nashville's doorstep when Smith was stalking the children of Sherith Israel School while armed with an M-16. America has dealt with these craven cowards before..... Nashville will be much safer with Smith in Federal prison," said James Cavanaugh, Special Agent in Charge of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. (ATF).

"The FBI believes that this was a significant domestic terrorism investigation involving hate crime at its worse, and we are glad that the investigative and prosecutorial efforts led to a successful prosecution of this matter," said FBI Supervisory Special Agent Doug Riggin, Joint Terrorism Task Force.

United States Attorney Jim Vines applauded the efforts of all the agencies that worked diligently on this case.

Testimony at the hearing revealed that Smith had been a member of the National Alliance, Membership # A6376. The National Alliance, recognized as one of the largest and most active neo-Nazi/white supremacist organizations, was established in 1974 by Dr. William Pierce. The National Alliance handbook describes a white person as "any non-Jewish person of wholly European ancestry." The National Alliance advocates the overthrow of the U.S. Government and has been involved in a number of violent criminal acts.

FBI agent Stephen Dickey testified that his investigation had shown that when the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, occurred, Smith cheered. Smith's e-mails in December of 2001 revealed his hatred for the Jewish race, and included comments such as "If the Jews don't like what E.T. has to say, perhaps they should be stuffed head first into an oven - for real this time" and "I no longer feel like I belong to the cesspool of multi-cultural filth known as the 'United States.'" He also had email contact with Billy Roper in December of 2001. Roper was a ranking member of the National Alliance at that time.

On Friday, January 4, a citizen, who has been recognized by Attorney General John Ashcroft for his alert act of courage, reported to off-duty Nashville Metropolitan Police Department Officer Upchurch who then contacted on duty Officer T. Finchum, that he (the citizen) had observed a vehicle parked on the street in front of Sherith Israel School on West End Avenue, Nashville, Tennessee a few minutes earlier. The school was posted as "Gan Yeladim, the Abraham and Olga Heller Pre-School". Gan Yeladim means Garden of Children.

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The subject in the vehicle was described as a well-dressed, white male wearing sunglasses and appearing to have an "M-16" rifle on his lap with the barrel pointed out of the driver's window toward the Sherith Israel Pre-School. Another witness had observed this vehicle at this same location for more than an hour. A check of the registration by police revealed the vehicle to be registered to Michael E. Smith, with an address at Knolls Place, Nashville, TN.

Metropolitan Police set up surveillance and located the vehicle. Detective Sgt. Steve Reed and Detective Robert Doak observed the vehicle, and the white male driving it, pull into Knolls Place, and then continue out of the area. When police attempted to stop the vehicle by activating blue lights and siren, the driver of the vehicle put a gun to his head, refused to yield to the officers, and continued to drive recklessly, at one point driving into oncoming traffic at the overpass at Old Hickory Boulevard and I-65 South. The vehicle was ultimately stopped in the parking lot of Big Lots at Highway 96, Franklin, Tennessee.

Smith exited the vehicle and was placed under arrest. Recovered from the vehicle were a loaded Colt AR-15 A-2 with attached scope and soft case, with 47 rounds of ammunition, a loaded 9 mm Glock Model 17 semiautomatic pistol with 27 rounds of armor-piercing ammunition, a pair of military marine style binoculars, Nikon Buckmaster laser range finder, ASP Baton, a sniper sand bag, 8 Rand McNally maps, and latex gloves. At the time of his arrest, Smith was wearing a Nylon Web shoulder holster. Smith did not have a permit for the firearms.

Nashville Metropolitan Police Department, FBI, ATF and U.S. Secret Service were all actively involved at this point in the investigation as part of a terrorism working group. A subsequent search of Smith's apartment at 451 Knolls Place, Nashville, TN, and another location he utilized revealed among other things a Maadi Griffin .50 caliber bolt action rifle, SigSauer P226 semiautomatic pistol, 25 improvised explosive devices (10 refilled hand grenades and 13 pipe bombs), thousands of rounds of ammunition, including armor piercing and tracer ammunition, M60 military fuse ignitor and an assortment of electric blasting caps and leg wires, numerous military training manuals involving explosives, sniper training and military tactics, books including "The Turner Diaries," "Hunter," "The Testing of Negro Intelligence," "Ambush at Ruby Ridge," "National Vanguard Notebook," "American Dissident Voices (speech excerpts from the president of the National Alliance)," "The Zionist Connection II," "Auschwitz," "American Terrorist," "Advanced Anarchist Arsenal" and "Anarchist Arsenal," "Acquiring New I.D.," "Chemistry of Powder and Explosives," "Improvised Munitions Black Book Volume III," and military sniper manuals. Also found were two Component High Explosive Mixtures, binary explosives 50 solid/50 liquid (which when mixed is the equivalent of 50 sticks of dynamite, two boxes military non-electric blasting caps and military time fuse, and MRE's (ready to eat meals).

An examination of Smith's computer and software by FBI Special Agent Adriaan Valk and forensic examiner John Kerley revealed teen-age pornography, white supremacist connections, a photograph of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, hate e-mails, and indications that a user of the computer had conducted searches regarding Jewish schools and synagogues in the Nashville and Atlanta areas. The computer revealed the name Buford Furrow in a word search. Buford Furrow is a neo-Nazi who on August 15, 1999, attacked the North Valley Jewish Community Center in California, shooting to death several Jewish Pre-school children with a 9 mm.

Smith advised law enforcement that he had buried explosives in Maury County, Tennessee. ATF Special Agent Wayne Kilday and FBI Agent Stephen Dickey, Tennessee Highway Patrol Special Operations Unit, Nashville Metropolitan Police, and Maury County Sheriff's office went to the area to locate the explosives referred to by Smith. Agents Kilday and Dickey dug up by hand 8 buried ammunition cans. The cans contained 2 improvised explosive devices (refilled hand grenades with military safety fuse), 2 gym bags separately containing approximately 20 pounds of potassium perchlorate and 20 pounds of aluminum powder, 2080 rounds of .223 caliber ammunition, 44 rounds of 9mm ammunition, some appearing to be armor piercing, 20 military smoke grenades, military signal flares, 15 commercial and military blasting caps, 5 rolls of commercial and military time fuse, 19 empty M-16 magazines.

ATF Agent Kilday, THP Sgt. Ed Cherry and Trooper Craig Smith destroyed most of the ordnance located in Maury County, Tennessee, on site. Kilday testified that the 25 explosive devices were of a particularly volatile nature due to the type of homemade mixture of explosive found in them, which Smith admitted to creating himself from ingredients he had acquired and manuals he had on hand. The Metropolitan Nashville Police Department Hazardous Devices unit and ATF Explosive specialist were able to successfully render safe and destroy the 25 explosive devices during the week following Smith's arrest.

Smith provided information that led to the arrest and conviction of a white supremacist associate who was later identified by Smith as J.R. Spores. Spores has been arrested and convicted of possession of explosive devices and received a sentence of 24 months.

The case was investigated and prosecuted through the cooperative effort of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Nashville Metropolitan Police Department with assistance from the U.S. Secret Service, the Department of Defense, Tennessee Highway Patrol and Maury County Sheriff's office. Debra Teufel Phillips, criminal chief for the United States Attorney's office, prosecuted the case
 
Old March 21st, 2004 #3
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Default What do you do when a KIKE trys to take away your Freedom?

And your ability to provide for your Family's Future?

Do you lay down and roll over

or

Stand Firm?
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Old March 21st, 2004 #4
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And your ability to provide for your Family's Future?

Do you lay down and roll over

or

Stand Firm?
Had a drunken Kike Fed cop do exactly that to me -- provide for the family's future, lost a daughter over it who thought I should have rolled over and the boy keeps trying to harass me but when you stand firm itz over for them.
 
Old March 21st, 2004 #5
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He sat there with a gun pointed at the school for over an hour? What a dumb ass!

Boy, I think geniuses like this deserve to be weeded out. Who needs fuck ups like this around em? Recklass and stupid!

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Old March 21st, 2004 #6
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Let me get this straight....

A man sits outside a jew school for 60 minutes with a loaded military rifle, some sidearms, a sniper sand bag(wtf?), latex gloves, and has armor piercing bullets and explosives in his home, and gets caught? And upon getting caught takes himself hostage? Surely a tactical genius such as this would have executed a precision strike and vanished!

What a fucking idiot. Who would want to be associated with a lunatic like this?
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Old March 21st, 2004 #7
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Let me get this straight....

A man sits outside a jew school for 60 minutes with a loaded military rifle, some sidearms, a sniper sand bag(wtf?), latex gloves, and has armor piercing bullets and explosives in his home, and gets caught? And upon getting caught takes himself hostage? Surely a tactical genius such as this would have executed a precision strike and vanished!

What a fucking idiot. Who would want to be associated with a lunatic like this?

And to top it all off the top-down org he was associated with gets slimed in the jew press too! Wow, we're winning media relations that's for sure. lol

The man didn't take any of Tom Metzger's advice, that's for sure. The Laws of the Lone Wolf were indeed violated by this brain trust.
 
Old March 21st, 2004 #8
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Let me get this straight....

A man sits outside a jew school for 60 minutes with a loaded military rifle, some sidearms, a sniper sand bag(wtf?), latex gloves, and has armor piercing bullets and explosives in his home, and gets caught? And upon getting caught takes himself hostage? Surely a tactical genius such as this would have executed a precision strike and vanished!

What a fucking idiot. Who would want to be associated with a lunatic like this?
That guy was nuttier than a shithouse rat. I wish he had turned the gun on himself. We could well do without sickos like that.

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Old March 21st, 2004 #9
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And to top it all off the top-down org he was associated with gets slimed in the jew press too! Wow, we're winning media relations that's for sure. lol

The man didn't take any of Tom Metzger's advice, that's for sure. The Laws of the Lone Wolf were indeed violated by this brain trust.
Well, he fucked up just by joining the NA. That alone ruins any chance of lone wolfiness. I also do not understand the amount of weaponry he owned....when he only has two hands. Certainly he had no friends to arm, so why all that shit? A racialist should own only as many weapons that can be used. And the explosives...that's really just stupid. He also took the feds to buried explosives, clearly going the self-incrimination route. Didn't even know the five-words, but what do you expect from a guy who sits outside a school in broad daylight on a street with a sniper sand bag and a rifle?
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Old March 21st, 2004 #10
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Default Isn't it obvious to All that this is a Set-Up!!

Can you say charade?

Can you farce?

Can you say Hegellian dialectic?

Can you say action leads to reaction?

What do you think the reaction from the kikes will be

to this supposed attrocity,

which in reality

is as artificial as the governments explanation

of how the Arthur P. Murrah Federal Building

was Demolished?

Kind of reminds me of Zionist Stars of David

chained around the necks

of so-called Palestinian (Al-Queda?) terrorists?

I smell a stinky rat kike behind this, Do You?

or do you think this is the learned behavior

of all Northern Europeans

in the World Wide

White Pride

Pro-White Movement.

Do the kikes think that whites are ready and willing

to resort to the same tactics

that they frequently engage in

against Whites World Wide?

Perhaps they are starting to run from the Light of the White Truth

which is exposing those perverted Jewish parasites

to all of the Races

struggling for Survival

on this spinning out of control

World of Ours!

Mel Reminds of Gods Promise!!

The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth!!

Time For Satan to Be Chained for a Thousand Years

Do you Know who Satan Is?

Ask Mel Gibson!

Ask His Father!

Ask Jesus or Yahshua!

They will tell you the Truth

The Jews Are of the Devil!!

God Commands all Christians

to Hate that which is Evil.

The Jews are Evil!!

Evil Jew Weevils!!
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Old March 21st, 2004 #11
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Can you say charade?

Can you farce?

Can you say Hegellian dialectic?

Can you say action leads to reaction?

What do you think the reaction from the kikes will be

to this supposed attrocity,

which in reality

is as artificial as the governments explanation

of how the Arthur P. Murrah Federal Building

was Demolished?

Kind of reminds me of Zionist Stars of David

chained around the necks

of so-called Palestinian (Al-Queda?) terrorists?

I smell a stinky rat kike behind this, Do You?

or do you think this is the learned behavior

of all Northern Europeans

in the World Wide

White Pride

Pro-White Movement.

Do the kikes think that whites are ready and willing

to resort to the same tactics

that they frequently engage in

against Whites World Wide?

Perhaps they are starting to run from the Light of the White Truth

which is exposing those perverted Jewish parasites

to all of the Races

struggling for Survival

on this spinning out of control

World of Ours!

Mel Reminds of Gods Promise!!

The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth!!

Time For Satan to Be Chained for a Thousand Years

Do you Know who Satan Is?

Ask Mel Gibson!

Ask His Father!

Ask Jesus or Yahshua!

They will tell you the Truth

The Jews Are of the Devil!!

God Commands all Christians

to Hate that which is Evil.

The Jews are Evil!!

Evil Jew Weevils!!
Billybobs got a new nic? Or is this just a fan?
 
Old March 21st, 2004 #12
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"lone wolfiness" What the fuck? The "five-words"! Christ Almighty. What is this, Final Fantasy?

Who cares how many weapons the dipshit had? He was getting ready to waste some kids! Children. This is the type of psychotic loser that White Nationalism attracts. Without fail. Psychotic, dysfunctional, cowardly, twisted goofballs.

Then you have a WN "leader" copping a plea on the internet about how he wasn't involved in the goofy fucker's crime, but was involved in recruiting said asshole into an organization that promotes music and literature that encourages the very same looney behavior!

What a mess. Enjoy.

It must be the Jews. Yep. The Jews made him do it.
I see, one nutcase goes off the deep end and the conclusion you draw from it is: "This is the type of psychotic loser that White Nationalism attracts. Without fail. Psychotic, dysfunctional, cowardly, twisted goofballs".

Bit of a broad stroke with the ole brush isn't it, Keystone?
 
Old March 21st, 2004 #13
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No, Steve. It happens way too often. I have faith in white folk, but none in White Nationalism as it is now.
I don't see it happening "way too often". A few isolated cases, sure. There are always 1 or 2 idiots in every crowd no matter what the political leanings of people are.


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You've got folks mindlessly reciting things like "14 words" and "five words", "itz coming" and "RaHoWa"
I suppose you have a better strategy when questioned by the police than the "five words"? Perhaps Keystone uses the 8 words. "I'll tell you anything to save my ass".

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That's not healthy for impressionable young people who feel marginalized and take these catch-phrases as real life and act on them..
I think your selling young WN's a little short. The ones I have met are quite bright and anything but "impressionable". In fact their bullshit detectors are up there with Linders.

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White Nationalism is associated with too much mindless hate, paranoia and violence right now to do any white person any good.
Actually the violence among WN's is quite low being as how most of us realize we are in ZOG's crosshairs and the "mindless hate" is anything but mindless in my opinion.
I think your over reacting, Keystone.
 
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No, Steve. It happens way too often. I have faith in white folk, but none in White Nationalism as it is now.

You've got folks mindlessly reciting things like "14 words" and "five words", "itz coming" and "RaHoWa".

That's not healthy for impressionable young people who feel marginalized and take these catch-phrases as real life and act on them.

White Nationalism is associated with too much mindless hate, paranoia and violence right now to do any white person any good.

We now return you back to your regularly scheduled Republican program.
 
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We now return you back to your regularly scheduled Republican program.
Heh heh!!!.....................................
 
Old March 21st, 2004 #16
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The guy almost became another Beuford Furrow. Anyone remember him? Shot up a bunch of kike kiddies in a grammer school?

Of course these types of people who join these organizations do them harm. I still like seeing them on the news. It gives me satisfaction to know I'm not the only one who feels like going berserk. Some people have actually cracked even worse.

Around the same time Benjamin Smith went on the July 4 shooting spree. Both these incidents were used in antihate propaganda films about "Nazis In America".

There's really no such thing as bad publicity. Keystone does make a point that these are the types of people that prowhite groups attract. People who are desparate for an immediate solution. Most people will prefer to wait for the movement to get big enough or for there to be some kind of major breakdown of the economy to take a stand. Even though this particular guy never pulled the trigger anyway.

If it so happens that a prowhite group is taken down by some one who commits illegal acts, it's just a chance for a new one to sprout up. Conflict is evolution, peace is degeneration. Hardship builds character. I disagree with Keystone when he says it does us no good.
 
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Well, he fucked up just by joining the NA. That alone ruins any chance of lone wolfiness. I also do not understand the amount of weaponry he owned....when he only has two hands. Certainly he had no friends to arm, so why all that shit? A racialist should own only as many weapons that can be used. And the explosives...that's really just stupid. He also took the feds to buried explosives, clearly going the self-incrimination route. Didn't even know the five-words, but what do you expect from a guy who sits outside a school in broad daylight on a street with a sniper sand bag and a rifle?
I never understood this obcession with stockpiling enough weapons and ammo to equip a platoon when you are only a single individual. All your doing is giving the feds the ability to lock you away forever without accompolishing a single thing.
Whats more even a minor housefire will lead to your exposure and possible death or injury for you and your family. The skinheads in Germany have the right approach. They will stockpile weapons but bury them in water proof caches deep in the wilderness in locations known only to themselves.
If the caches are seized, all that is lost is the weapons, not the racialists and their lives and liberty.

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Yeah, he's not only "wreckless", but reckless as well!
Trouble is, fucktards like him probably join outfits like the NA in the mistaken belief that, somehow, if he fucks up, the NA will automatically come to his emotional rescue. Hoooeeee, they say it takes all kinds. But this Michael Smith dude obviously had more guns than brains. Too bad, seems like some nice hardware.

Thanks for bringing my spelling to my attention. I have since edited the text.
 
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Thanks for bringing my spelling to my attention. I have since edited the text.
Don't worry about it, Cab. I'm notorious for misspelled words as Herr Linder has correctly pointed out.
 
Old March 21st, 2004 #20
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No, Steve. It happens way too often. I have faith in white folk, but none in White Nationalism as it is now.

You've got folks mindlessly reciting things like "14 words" and "five words", "itz coming" and "RaHoWa".

That's not healthy for impressionable young people who feel marginalized and take these catch-phrases as real life and act on them.

White Nationalism is associated with too much mindless hate, paranoia and violence right now to do any white person any good.
Actually, the five words is a mnemomic device...five words/fifth amendement. "I have nothing to say" is a nice way of avoiding self-incrimination.

Whilst in the interrogation room, the policeman is most definately not your friend.

And yes, I strongly suspect Robert is Billy Bob.
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