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Old June 12th, 2005 #21
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Yeah they are some ignorant "haters" over there. It's hard to believe that republicans/conservatives think they can attract any significant minority votes, by suppressing us. I think they're scared,and I also think "the chosen ones" are a strong presence on these boards too. It's hard to believe that whites were so outspoken 40 or 50 years ago and now we're down to this.

BTW SteveB mentioned the IDF on CU, what does this stand for, I forgot.

They're the worst kind of hypocrits too cause you know they wouldn't want to live in "bad" neighborhoods. When Mr Taylor was on the Phil Donahue show, he asked him to name one minority neighborhood that he'd like to move to, Donahue wouldn't answer him, so he asked him again a couple more times to answer the question. So Donahue finally said " not all minority neighborhoods go to pot". ( sounds like he admitted defeat with that one.)
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Old June 12th, 2005 #22
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Old June 13th, 2005 #23
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Don't waste time on conservatives. They're a bunch of fakes who wish they were rich...they have the intellectual and philosophical insights of a worm. They have no soul, no depth of character, no realistic world view, and no independent thought. Conservatives won't listen to ANYthing that remotely challenges their outlook..and worse, they think they're the most NORMAL people in the world, and everyone else is nothing but crazies. You'll just end up getting frustrated.

I've always found that leftists are actually more receptive to NS ideals than conservatives...especially considering NS was originally Leftist.



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Talk about haters! Some real mean people here that run this message board. Should be called the Conned-servative Underground. There was about 20 people here that were posting against VNN, of the leftists,anti-white sort. They want to make sure that the middle of the road types on the forum don't see any pro-white articles. The only good thing is my posts got over 1100 views before they deleted the link to VNN.
If anybody feels like debating these people go ahead, but the neocons over there that run things , don't want us around.


http://www.conservativeunderground.c...ead.php?t=7861
 
Old June 13th, 2005 #24
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Let me explain something to all you goose-stepping idiots. We ban all haters left and right. We don't tolerate your brand of bullshit. I can personally be proud of who I am without claiming that my race has anything to do with it.

What you, the new hitler youth, want is to claim your superiority without just cause. I have served in the military with black Americans who I would trust my life with. I have also served with Jewish men also who I would put my trust in. I have also served with both who I couldn't trust. Guess what? Race doesn't matter.

And one last thing you bunch inbred motherfuckers, I will always have more power politically than you because I refuse to HATE like you do. When you start treating individuals as individuals, you will always come out ahead.....

 
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You bunch of goose-stepping morons where banned because we don't allow your kind of hate on our site, left or right. What you don't get nor will you every get is that people WANT to be treated equally without reference to their race or religion.

I served in the military with both black Americans and Jewish Americans and I can honestly say that there are some I would out my trust into and others I would give you a plug nickel for. The difference between inbred motherfuckers like yourselfs and the rest of the "conservative" movement is that we truely want to treat everybody equally. You think that someones skin color makes or breaks that person. What you will never understand is that it is what is in between your ears that dictates who you are.

One last thing for you nitwits... I will always have more politically power than you because I DO TREAT PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR ACTIONS AND WORDS AND NOT THEIR RACE. You will always be marginalized as you should be.

 
Old June 13th, 2005 #26
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translation: I am a kahn-servative Jew-apple polisher who posts the same message twice.

Guys like this were the losers in the front row who couldnt wait to tell and shine the teacher's apple.

Hey. Why are you here? Excites you kind of like porn eh? Well, this is politics down and dirty without the censorship. And you're drawn like a moth to flame for all your denial.

Keep on lurking fellow. You may learn something.
 
Old June 13th, 2005 #27
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translation: I am a kahn-servative Jew-apple polisher who posts the same message twice.

Guys like this were the losers in the front row who couldnt wait to tell and shine the teacher's apple.

Hey. Why are you here? Excites you kind of like porn eh? Well, this is politics down and dirty without the censorship. And you're drawn like a moth to flame for all your denial.

Keep on lurking fellow. You may learn something.
Yeah he may learn just how hateful and close minded you people really are. I find it ironic that Chrissy is whining how hateful CU is and you guys proudly post how much you hate blacks and jews. I sure hope none of you call yourself Christians because Jesus the king of the Jews will not know you on judgement day. Anyway when you guys ban Mau and I we will laugh at the irony of getting banned in a thread where someone is whinning about getting banned on CU. I must shower now to get the stench of hate off of me.
 
Old June 13th, 2005 #28
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He's one of the dum-dums that doesn't realize the non-whites are always pushing for more power for themselves. They don't believe in judging people as an individual - unless it benefits them. It's funny you came over here to our forum, but you don't want us on your board. Question - what are you so afraid of?
 
Old June 13th, 2005 #29
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Chrissy, it's funny he calls us "inbred motherfuckers." Gee, and he doesnt even know me? For all he knows I am a system Republicunt ten times higher up in the pecking order than him. Or maybe I am just a nobody like him typing away my life in oblivion in my basement. It's interesting to see which people understand the limitations of their knowledge, and which are comfortable in their convinced ignorance.

Look around you here Chrissy, VNN has some of the sharpest White minds I have ever encountered. And I assure you I have encountered some of the best. Mental acuity is something far more than the ability to recollect facts or reckon figures. Those two capabilities are shared by a billion Chinese. But there is something ineffable about the character and creativity and intellect of the White and it shows at VNN in full bloom-- unlike some of these other stilted and stifled atmospheres.

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Old June 13th, 2005 #30
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You bunch of goose-stepping morons where banned because we don't allow your kind of hate on our site, left or right. What you don't get nor will you every get is that people WANT to be treated equally without reference to their race or religion.

I served in the military with both black Americans and Jewish Americans and I can honestly say that there are some I would out my trust into and others I would give you a plug nickel for. The difference between inbred motherfuckers like yourselfs and the rest of the "conservative" movement is that we truely want to treat everybody equally. You think that someones skin color makes or breaks that person. What you will never understand is that it is what is in between your ears that dictates who you are.

One last thing for you nitwits... I will always have more politically power than you because I DO TREAT PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR ACTIONS AND WORDS AND NOT THEIR RACE. You will always be marginalized as you should be.
Calm down, Mau mau man. I am going to walk you through it real slow, m'kay? The posts by Chrissy on your forum, conservative underground, were actually quite tame. My posts, as Podesta, on your forum were also mild. No invective, ranting and raving such as you have done on VNN forum. An example would be your use of "inbred motherfuckers" to characterize VNN. That expletive wouldn't last 30 seconds on CU if the situation were reversed and you know it. Here on VNN forum we have a thing called free speech and your post still stands, as you can see.

But I am not going to get into a "we're better than you" pissing contest. What I am proposing is that you let VNN forum posters post freely on your forum without censorship. We will not use abusive language, contemptuous rudeness or behave arrogantly. Just let us present our ideas and let the folks decide, ok?

And of course, the reverse is also true. As you have seen, you can post unrestricted on VNN fourm. We welcome your ideas and opinions and look forward to debating you and sharing your thoughts. Will you give us the same? Or are you afraid?
 
Old June 13th, 2005 #31
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Notice his pat jew terms for us..."inbred", "moron", "haters" bla bla. Hey Marine, if you feel so smug about your position, why not let VNNer's post on your forum? What are you afraid of?

Let's pick a couple of topics to debate. How about the Iraq War and Immigration? No insults, just a good old fashioned debate. What do you say? We are not afraid of debate, why are you? If our positions are as marginal as you say, you have nothing to worry about, no?

Well, we here at VNN already know what you'll say. Weak people are afraid to debate in the open. Liars and frauds are afraid of the truth.
 
Old June 13th, 2005 #32
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You bunch of goose-stepping morons where banned because we don't allow your kind of hate on our site, left or right. What you don't get nor will you every get is that people WANT to be treated equally without reference to their race or religion.

I served in the military with both black Americans and Jewish Americans and I can honestly say that there are some I would out my trust into and others I would give you a plug nickel for. The difference between inbred motherfuckers like yourselfs and the rest of the "conservative" movement is that we truely want to treat everybody equally. You think that someones skin color makes or breaks that person. What you will never understand is that it is what is in between your ears that dictates who you are.

One last thing for you nitwits... I will always have more politically power than you because I DO TREAT PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR ACTIONS AND WORDS AND NOT THEIR RACE. You will always be marginalized as you should be.
Let me guess, you're a Sean Hannity fan? lol
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Old June 13th, 2005 #33
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Yeah he may learn just how hateful and close minded you people really are. I find it ironic that Chrissy is whining how hateful CU is and you guys proudly post how much you hate blacks and jews. I sure hope none of you call yourself Christians because Jesus the king of the Jews will not know you on judgement day. Anyway when you guys ban Mau and I we will laugh at the irony of getting banned in a thread where someone is whinning about getting banned on CU. I must shower now to get the stench of hate off of me.
Pfttt!!! An obvious VNN sock puppet! Comon mods....don't make us look bad with this shit!
 
Old June 13th, 2005 #34
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As one of Conservative Underground's liberal members, I just want to pat them on the back for not allowing this type of bigotry on their board. I also want to commend Mau for being willing to step into such a garbage dump to put you all in your places.

People should be treated according to their actions, not their skin color, their heritage, or whatever else.

Oh, and I just wanted to mention that I love it how George Bush is hiring blacks and Hispanics for some of the major positions. That must be pissing you assholes off! Imagine that. Black people and Hispanics actually being rewarded for their hard work instead of kicked to the side like you want. It's their country too. You pricks might as well get used to it.
 
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I've always found that leftists are actually more receptive to NS ideals than conservatives...especially considering NS was originally Leftist.
I'm as leftist as you get them. I am the left. I'm the type of person who votes Deomcrat wishing we had a more leftist option. I'm all for certain social programs. I WANT NO PART IN NATIONAL SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!! Neither do most Socialists I know.

You all might have some fiscally liberal ideas, but 99.9% of us want nothing to do with you. You're just a parasite to the leftist movement as far as I'm concerned.
 
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Yeah he may learn just how hateful and close minded you people really are. I find it ironic that Chrissy is whining how hateful CU is and you guys proudly post how much you hate blacks and jews. I sure hope none of you call yourself Christians because Jesus the king of the Jews will not know you on judgement day. Anyway when you guys ban Mau and I we will laugh at the irony of getting banned in a thread where someone is whinning about getting banned on CU. I must shower now to get the stench of hate off of me.
You need to read your bible a little closer Judeo. The passage you refer to is Rev 3:16. Go up a few verses and you'll know why he says he doesn't know you.

9 Behold, I give of the synagogue of Satan, of them that say they are Jews, and they are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches.

What church are you in Faglot? The one whose works are neither hot nor cold? Meaning, a Judeo-Christian?

Oh by the way, the "King of the Jews" was meant as a mockery, Christ never once called himself that. That's because he was their most deadliest enemy. Of course, you being a Judeo would never understand that, because you have neither ears to hear nor eyes to see.
 
Old June 13th, 2005 #37
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Let me explain something to all you goose-stepping idiots. We ban all haters left and right. We don't tolerate your brand of bullshit. I can personally be proud of who I am without claiming that my race has anything to do with it.

What you, the new hitler youth, want is to claim your superiority without just cause. I have served in the military with black Americans who I would trust my life with. I have also served with Jewish men also who I would put my trust in. I have also served with both who I couldn't trust. Guess what? Race doesn't matter.

And one last thing you bunch inbred motherfuckers, I will always have more power politically than you because I refuse to HATE like you do. When you start treating individuals as individuals, you will always come out ahead.....
Read this you pusillanimous puke: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/back404.html

The Jews think in terms of their group political power and how to maintain it. You agree with the Jew and think somehow you have power. You are the same kind of craven wretch that helped the Jewish Bolshevics slaughter their fellow racial kin.

Look at this scum: http://www.wakeupordie.com/html/popprcnt.html

Your people are disappearing and are the victims of an ongoing campaign of genocide and you ally yourself with your people's executioners and claim that grants you political power. You rotten piece of degredated filth. How can you help wipe out your kith and kin then pronounce sentence upon us their defenders?

Cowardly maggot murderer.
 
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Read this you pusillanimous puke: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/back404.html

The Jews think in terms of their group political power and how to maintain it. You agree with the Jew and think somehow you have power. You are the same kind of craven wretch that helped the Jewish Bolshevics slaughter their fellow racial kin.

Look at this scum: http://www.wakeupordie.com/html/popprcnt.html

Your people are disappearing and are the victims of an ongoing campaign of genocide and you ally yourself with your people's executioners and claim that grants you political power. You rotten piece of degredated filth. How can you help wipe out your kith and kin then pronounce sentence upon us their defenders?

Cowardly maggot murderer.
When the Mexicans become the nation's majority and decide to plunder his house and rape his wife I hope the little weasel cries out with his last breath "But we are all individuals, right?" And then the Spic knife will come down on his foolish neck.
 
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I have served in the military with black Americans who I would trust my life with. I have also served with Jewish men also who I would put my trust in. I have also served with both who I couldn't trust. Guess what? Race doesn't matter
I hope you have daughters you teach this crap to.
 
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Now for something completely different:

NATIONAL SOCIALISM -A LEFT-WING MOVEMENT
NORDLAND FOBLAG

Povl H. Riis-Knudsen

For far too many years it has been widely accepted that National Socialists are extreme right- wingers, and only rarely have they hestitated to refer to themselves as such. At a certain point, however, it became the official policy of the World Union of National Socialists to avoid the term "right-wing," claiming that National Socialism does not fit into the pattern of "right" and "left" and instead ought to be considered as standing above this distinction. This most certainly was a step in the right direction, but at this time and within the context of the current struggle it might, however, be a good idea to reconsider the whole question about political wings and make a few points clear concerning the meaning of the terms "right" and "left" and their application to today's political scene.

Historically, the words" right" and "left'' in reference to political views originated in pre-revolutionary France, where those who wanted to preserve the system of government more or less as it was sat to the Right in the National Assembly, whereas those who wanted more radical changes sat to the left. Hence, the term "right" for the reactionaries and "left" for the revolutionaries— terms that have since become universally known and used.

Neither the word "reactionary" nor the word "revolutionary," however, says anything universal about the particular views in question. They are both relative and receive their specific meaning only within a given historical context. The revolutionaries of former times, as for instance, the European National Liberals of the 19th century, do not seem very revolutionary today—quite the contrary!—just as today's reactionaries would have been considered very revolutionary 200 years ago. When the Communists took over in Russia in 1917 they did so as revolutionaries out to overthrow an ineffective and corrupt regime, whereas today they represent the reactionary establishment facing a new revolutionary challenge.

In our time the traditional left wing is predominantly Marxist —even to such a degree that the very term "left wing" is thought to be synonymous with the word "Marxist." This, of course, has no basis in reality. Any revolutionary is a left-winger—it is just that the Marxists have had so little competition that they have been able to appropriate the term.

On the other side of the political spectrum we have the right wing, consisting of reactionaries who want to preserve the present society and the so-called Christian civilization of the West with its materialism and capitalism. The rightwingers stand up for traditional patriotic values: they are good Christians and good citizens who defend the Constitution and are loyal to their country and their monarch, if they have one. They are willing to go to war against any other nation to assert the greatness of their own—even if it means waging a nuclear war against another White country if they think its system of government threatens their own domestic order, no matter how corrupt and degenerate it may be. They are for an economy based on unrestricted free enterprise, regardless of the consequences, but they resent the Liberal trend in politics as well as immigration and racial integration, because they fear any changes that could upset the order to which they are accustomed.

Where National Socialists are to be found in this spectrum seems quite clear: We are leftwingers—no doubt about it! We do not want to preserve the present system or any part thereof. We do not believe in the foundations of a system that has led our people into the misery of the present time! We do not want to support any institution which is responsible for two world wars between White nations as well as countless minor wars; nuclear rearmament; the pollution of the environment; unemployment; the total disillusionment of young people, who have lost all faith in the future; drug abuse; pornography; and all the other forms of complete degeneracy which are displayed today. We National Socialists want the most radical change of all: we want the complete overthrow of the entire Old Order!

Whereas Marxism shares a basic equalitarian philosophy with the Old Order and defines itself as a materialistic movement aiming at the mere redistribution of the material goods. National Socialism seeks to build an entirely New Order based on idealism and a profound respect for the laws of Nature in all aspects of life. This, definitely, is the most revolutionary idea of this century—and thus very much left-wing!—and it certainly is not Marxist! Compared to National Socialism, Marxism is nothing but a pseudo-revolutionary idea, invented by Christianity and upheld by Liberal Democracy: If all people are created equal, why should not all wealth be distributed equally among all people? Seen in this light, Marxism is simply part of the Old Order we want to destroy.

If National Socialism is, in its essence, a left-wing movement, it is, of course, paradoxical that National Socialists should have devoted so much time and energy to catering toward traditional right-wing attitudes, whereas they have shunned all openings to the left. Is it any wonder that all attempts to create a National Socialist movement on this basis have been utterly unsuccessful?

The first precondition for creating anything in this world is that one has a clear idea of what one wants to achieve and how one can possibly achieve it. A sculptor who wants to create a work of art starts out with a mental concept, and then sets out to realize it in his chosen material. He does not just dabble around casually with his chisel on a piece of marble, wondering what the final result will be.

Thus, it is crucial to realize that National Socialism is not just a form of extreme rightism. Anybody within our ranks who still has such notions should devote himself to studying the idea of National Socialism to find its true meaning and significance—or, if he doesn't have the energy or ability to do so, he should find another outlet for his activities. This Movement does not have room for frustrated haters or religious dreamers, but only for devoted National Socialist revolutionaries!

-- http://www.originaldissent.com/forum...hp/t-8089.html
 
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