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Old August 31st, 2012 #61
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Yeah, jellyfish. Brought on by the current full moon no doubt.

I made the mistake of watching Bobcat Goldthwait's, "God Bless America" before a shopping trip to WallyWorld today. I wished I had a 10 megaton n-bomb strapped to my back 15 minutes in. They're everywhere Alex. This much energeticly-negative* matter cannot exist for much longer, can it?

energeticly-negative = fat, useless, stupid, whiny consumers taking up space, breathing my air, eating my food, accepting things for what they are to get along, politically inept until it affects them then they have an opinion that isn't really their own, etc. etc. etc. (clap! clap!).

It's coming... and it's really, REALLY close.

To me there is this "thing" in the air. This feeling, built of observation, that is coming upon us. It is like the thing that drives lemmings to jump over cliffs or niggers to try and go swimming. I can't really explain it. I just observe its reactions and feel its weight. But it is tangable. It's like a slow motion car wreck on a global scale.
 
Old August 31st, 2012 #62
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That explains why he was promoting race-mixing with female jews as a 'demographic solution' with Yeager a few weeks back (didn't bother listening to the actual show as the blurb just made me wretch so I have no idea if Yeager actually objected to it). Something about there not being 'enough racially aware'; or simply enough, women according to the blurb, which was; and is, a load of balls.

A jew is a jew is a god-damned jew regardless of whether the jew concerned was an 'intelligent loving parent' or not: he's still a jew first, last and always. If you marry his daughter then you are still a jew-loving race-mixer regardless of whatever way you want to try and style your decision to marry and impregnate a kike.

If he had had any sort of principles he would have divorced her as soon as he found out.
Could you please pin point on which broadcast it was where you claim to have heard the above?

With all due respect I have never heard Tan mention anything remotely like this, and I have been reading him for three years or more now I think....
In fact, he makes clear that in light of his 'personal disclosure' he accepts that many WN could not have his family as members due to the jew-factor, and he understands that position completely.
Ps: He married his wife long before his jew-awakening, and I think in light of that fact, he has handled things remarkably well.
 
Old August 31st, 2012 #63
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J.T. Ready handled it better. Melcur too.
 
Old August 31st, 2012 #64
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J.T. Ready handled it better. Melcur too.
Forgive me got not 'getting' this comment?

Isn't J.T Ready now dead? You wish Tan the same end?

Obviously, I disagree.
 
Old August 31st, 2012 #65
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I'm here to answer as to what I lied. Thanks for any response,
Hey, loved your stuff in the FTL days, but in disgust I deleted my copy of the vor episode in which you all but accused linder of being a government functionary and vnnforum his WN data-harvesting front, so I can't quote the charges verbatim.

I'll attach the download url and a cache of the comments page. If your despondent webmaster grows past his personal crisis to restore the site, others may have a listen to the girlish back-stabbery that continually undercuts this 'movement'.

http://reasonradionetwork.com/downlo...M_20081128.mp3

https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...&site=&ct=clnk
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Old August 31st, 2012 #66
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Forgive me got not 'getting' this comment?

Isn't J.T Ready now dead? You wish Tan the same end?

Obviously, I disagree.
Ha ha. Oh no, please, we beseech you to forgive us for not understanding why he doesn't ditch the newly found jews. You know, considering his strong beliefs and all, hon.
 
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Ha ha. Oh no, please, we beseech you to forgive us for not understanding why he doesn't ditch the newly found jews. You know, considering his strong beliefs and all, hon.
Would it be too much to ask you to speak plainly?

You think Tan is lying about his jew-awareness coming after he was already married? You think he should divorce his wife and shun his children?

I am unclear as to what your point is.
 
Old August 31st, 2012 #68
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Saturday Afternoon with Carolyn Yeager, Live, September 1st, 2 to 4PM Eastern (11AM -1PM Pacific) on The White Network. “Libel, Slander, Defamation on the Internet”

In the first hour, Bill Finck of Christogenea.org will talk about his latest editorial in the Saxon Messenger titled "The Demise of Free Speech on the Internet." Bill was recently a targeted recipient of the ADL-caused "cleansing" of "hate sites" by certain Inte rnet Service Providers. He and Carolyn Yeager will discuss the sordid history of the Anti-Defamation League and ways to deal with it's increasingly bold campaign to shut down free speech in the U.S.

In the second hour, Carolyn will tell the facts about what people are calling the "sudden collapse" of Voice of Reason Network and correct some of the erroneous ideas that are being put out, many as insinuations, innuendos and just plain lies ("libel, slander defamation?"). After all, Carolyn was there for two years and knows of what she speaks, unlike so many others.

See you then,

Carolyn Yeager
 
Old August 31st, 2012 #69
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That was the personal. Which is sad, but that's how people are.

What mattered more was the political: deviating from solid principles in hopes of pandering for a wider market. Starting with the name. While jews worry about what's good for jews, watered down WN worry about being the voice of reason. That's the same trap conservatives have always fallen into, and it never works.
Not accurate. The conservative trap is wanting to be respectable according to whatever the current standard of respectability is. Reason makes people into radicals of some sort.

I think Mike Connor got the idea for the name from my Undernet channel, which had the description and the topic: "Welcome to scientific racism: reason is on our side; let's use it."
 
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Could you please pin point on which broadcast it was where you claim to have heard the above?
Just went and had a look for the post that I remember it being discussed in on 'the White Network' and unfortunately it has either been re-written (quite possible looking at some of the other show descriptions which have changed since I last looked [which was very early in the 'White Network's' history]) or has been removed. Not sure which.

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With all due respect I have never heard Tan mention anything remotely like this, and I have been reading him for three years or more now I think....
Well then it is your word against mine. I know what I saw and I have a very good memory: so I am inclined to trust it.

I did also state that I didn't listen to the show concerned: I did however read the show's blurb, which is where I picked up that assertion.

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In fact, he makes clear that in light of his 'personal disclosure' he accepts that many WN could not have his family as members due to the jew-factor, and he understands that position completely.
Well then at least he isn't being whiny about it like so many, which is something. However he's still a race traitor.

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I don't give a shit if he married the jew before his jew awakening. If he had married a nigger before he woke up to the reality of race it would be exactly the same thing.

Has he had himself and his wife sterilized or what?

If not then I am sorry, but he's no better than a guy who marries and breeds with an Asian or a woman who marries and breeds with a negro. Actions have consequences.

There can be no exceptions.
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Not accurate. The conservative trap is wanting to be respectable according to whatever the current standard of respectability is. Reason makes people into radicals of some sort.
No it doesn't. Everyone thinks he's reasonable. Voice-of-reason is part of the whole individualism, fairness, double standards memeplex, so to speak. In the heart of Conservativetown. Something Rush Limbaugh would and does use to describe himself. While jews pursue group interest to the exclusion of all other considerations, whites worry about being fair and 'reasonable.' Contrast 'the White Network' vs 'Voice of Reason' and its easy to guess which one is racialist and which is conservative.

Not to mention the guys at VoR overtly said, and told me, that they were going after a bigger market, and they would achieve in the usual way: by softening the language and softening the political stance of VNN. That is exactly what conservatives always do, and I warned them against it. Their name was entirely appropriate to their attempted mission, but it was the wrong way to go.
 
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Just went and had a look for the post that I remember it being discussed in on 'the White Network' and unfortunately it has either been re-written (quite possible looking at some of the other show descriptions which have changed since I last looked [which was very early in the 'White Network's' history]) or has been removed. Not sure which.



Well then it is your word against mine. I know what I saw and I have a very good memory: so I am inclined to trust it.

I did also state that I didn't listen to the show concerned: I did however read the show's blurb, which is where I picked up that assertion.



Well then at least he isn't being whiny about it like so many, which is something. However he's still a race traitor.



I don't give a shit if he married the jew before his jew awakening. If he had married a nigger before he woke up to the reality of race it would be exactly the same thing.

Has he had himself and his wife sterilized or what?

If not then I am sorry, but he's no better than a guy who marries and breeds with an Asian or a woman who marries and breeds with a negro. Actions have consequences.

There can be no exceptions.
Well I am not calling you a liar, but I definitely think you have your wires well crossed where Tan is concerned. I have read his excellent posts for years now and NEVER have seen him write, nor heard him say (via The White Network') his stating support for anything even remotely like what you claim above.

You really ought to read the post: 'A Personal disclosure' to get a better grasp of how he has dealt with his wife being half jewish (her father is).

http://age-of-treason.blogspot.ie/20...isclosure.html
 
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You really ought to read the post: 'A Personal disclosure' to get a better grasp of how he has dealt with his wife being half jewish (her father is).
What difference does that make? Are you following jewish religious law or biology?
 
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No it doesn't. Everyone thinks he's reasonable.
Reasonable as commonly used does not have its appropriate meaning of employing reason and susceptible to reason. It means moderate or tractable. It's practically euphemistic for being a softy.

The reason why Greggy's anti-revisionist essay was so vulnerable to attack is that it was very weak in reason, and I used reason to attack it. If you don't have some form of personal authority or violence or good will gained through food-distributions on your side so that many people will do as you say without much question, then you have to make very good use of reason.

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Mr. & Mrs. "Tan" & kids could join Jared Taylor's group. Taylor lets jews in.
 
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Mr. & Mrs. "Tan" & kids could join Jared Taylor's group. Taylor lets jews in.
Hardly since his writings make a mockery of Amren's operating procedures.

Ps: Tan is not a jew, his wife is a half jew who, according to him, accepts the reality of jews devastating effect on White society. He has already said he understands those who would shun him/his family as members of any future White ethnostate, etc, and accepts that position as really, he feels the same.

Given how small our numbers are, I am at odds with how harshly you speak about a man who is doing his best in a situation that obviously troubles him.
Would you prefer he do nothing? His blog has been a major source of help to many former 'Counter-jihadists' awakening, me among them.
 
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What difference does that make? Are you following jewish religious law or biology?
There is no difference to me really, I was merely stating her half-jew status for clarity's sake.
 
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How ironyproof do you have to be to quote Harold Covington on movement unity? The guy whose entire career is premised on lying about others? Get a clue, Johnson.
I am starting to think that the recent sudden negative attention to my Covington debunking thread on The Phora has something to do with Greggy. Hippias over there even posted something like, Why is this thread that has been here so long suddenly coming under attack?

The fact that Covington is utterly discredited and disreputable deprives Greggy of what would otherwise be a useful ally.

That being the case, the fact that Greggy continues to treat Covington as somehow worthy of respect has the upside of giving people a heads-up about Greggy's own ethical standards.

If Greggy thinks he can rehabilitate Covington's image then he needs to have a serious look at all the documentation on my Noncounterproductive blog.

The Johnson-Covington Axis: alcoholics and sexual deviants that don't care about the truth. There could be utility in having the defectives concentrated like that.

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Reasonable as commonly used does not have its appropriate meaning of employing reason and susceptible to reason. It means moderate or tractable. It's practically euphemistic for being a softy.
That's exactly what they were going for. They said it themselves. They were taking bad advice from someone who didn't like me or VNN's approach, I guarantee it. One of the anonymous high-road pussies who thinks A3P is a serious political approach.

Everybody tries to claim reason is on his side. It could be the conservative softies, it could be the illiberals with their 'come let us reason together,' it could be the Jacobins terrorists chopping off heads in the name of Reason. Or it could be Hadding, identifying himself with reason and the truth. There's a danger in it that I don't think you fully appreciate. When you identify yourself with something groovy, you begin to look down on all others, certainly all critics, as opposed to the thing you imagine you embody. That's why some wryness is medically indicated. You and your views are not identical with the truth. Nor are mine or anybody's.

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The reason why Greggy's anti-revisionist essay was so vulnerable to attack is that it was very weak in reason, and I used reason to attack it. If you don't have some form of personal authority or violence or good will gained through food-distributions on your side so that many people will do as you say without much question, then you have to make very good use of reason.
Are you implying that Golden Dawn has been less successful than the cadres Herr Pierce raised up? Because that would be ridiculous. Maybe you don't pay attention to my thread, but they are basically putting the nationalist plan into action, and doing a darn good job of it. I don't see where they've had to depart from reason and the truth to do it, either.

Everybody uses reason to defend their position, Greggy no less than you. He didn't seem to dispute any factual assertions the revisionists make; the debate is wholly about the right way to go politically. That is not something that reason can adjudicate, because 100 political theories or strategies seem reasonable a priori. The question is what time and evidence and experience will falsify, and what they will vindicate. Then too you have to calculate that Johnson might have a reason for taking his position that he does not want to mention publicly. That's why, contra the great philosopher, it is unreasonable not to get into ad hominems and speculations about motives.
 
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I am starting to think that the recent sudden negative attention to my Covington debunking thread on The Phora has something to do with Greggy. Hippias over there even posted something like, Why is this thread that has been here so long suddenly coming under attack?
Well, christ, post a link. Some of us never go there. I'd be interested in reading that.

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The fact that Covington is utterly discredited and disreputable deprives Greggy of what would otherwise be a useful ally.
Well, his novels are good. I don't object to Greggy talking about them and promoting them, because I think they do help our cause, but for him to simply not take a positon on Covington's being a shitbag is pretty pathetic, especially when he spends lots of time bemoaning precisely the sort of malicious undermining that is Tubby's reason for existence.

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That being the case, the fact that Greggy continues to treat Covington as somehow worthy of respect has the upside of giving people a heads-up about Greggy's ethical standards.
He tries to have it both ways. That has become prominent in his writings as well as his behavior. He is a devious, mealy-mouthed homosexual, I should say. Beware the Greggy!

Even so, though, you'll notice he is perhaps the most active White Nationalist going, outside of Greece.
 
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