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Old July 30th, 2014 #261
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You're going to use the military record of the British in the 19th century to argue against capitalism? Because they lost a particular battle?

At the time they had the greatest empire since Rome. But other than that, great point!
They weren't the greatest empire since the Romans, they were more like the semitic Carthaginians, but yes, I will use that against them. Despite achieving arguable highs with their mentality, they achieved extreme lows as well. That's capitalism in a nutshell. I think it's better to be steady and honest like a German, over greedy and egotistical like an Anglo.

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And how has North Korea contributed to the world in any measure?, they are not just starving and miserable people, they dont produce anything of value.

If you look around, people in the west do want to buy a samsung TV and want to drive a Hyundai car, this is the difference between a productive society like South Korea today and their comrades in the north.
If North Korea got the same subsidies and generous trade agreements, they would produce that too.

How would South Korea fare if the majority of the world was its enemy and it was constantly under a state of siege? Or will you continue making dishonest points neglecting all of these facts?

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Billionaires. You don't think a Jewish boycott can hurt Gates and Buffett? What if Microsoft couldn't advertise on television, in magazines or on Google and Facebook? What if every story about Microsoft was as biased against their products as the Jew media was against Craig Cobb? How long would they stay in business? What if every stock Buffett held was sold off all at once? There are enough wealthy Jews to manipulate the entire stock market.
This is such a copout.

If Jews want to boycott Bill Gates in the media, he can simply start his own media company. These people would have no excuse, since they have enough capital to buy a country. With all their money and they still can't deal with some substantially less wealthy Jews?

The reality is, they know Jews are running the show, and they like it because Jews make sure to make things good for billionaires. That's in the Protocols: "Replace their aristocracy with millionaires, for they are easy to control". The rich are amoral for the most part, and more than a few are evil scumbags that see more of themselves in the Jewish upper classes than they ever will in the white workers they rip off.

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The difference between being fired and being shot.

Your entire reply conflates tribalism with socialism. Whites need more tribalism, which is local and genetic, not socialism, which is bureaucratic. A tribe has reciprocal relationships governed by personal knowledge. Under socialism there's a lazy bureaucrat parasite following thousands of pages of regulations written 2000 miles away by other bureaucrat parasite scum, and everything of any significance you want to do must be approved by these vermin.

That's slavery.
Few people get shot in places like Cuba, or in post-Stalin Soviet Union. Meanwhile, bosses had no issue hiring goons to shoot at striking workers in the past. The only reason your boss doesn't shoot you today is because "big government" has laws preventing him from doing that.

Bureaucrats can be dirtbags, but that's equally as true for CEO's. Have a look at the previous page where CFO's and CEO's perform poorly, yet vote themselves raises and bonuses galore. The problem with both business and government in America today is the mentality capitalism breeds. As long as you have a system whose ultimate goal is to make as much money as possible while doing the least work possible for it, you're going to run into this.
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Old July 30th, 2014 #262
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Why people continue to indulge this fool is beyond me...

I'm going to steal a good quote and let it stand as my final comment on this idiotic thread:

"I get on very well with honest and incorrigible Communists, for I see them as men living on borrowed time. At any moment they may be swinging from a convenient tree. But ex-Communists I cannot stomach. I distrust converts of any sort, and a man who has been converted twice, first to the Marxian whimwham and then to the even worse nonsense that usually follows, seems to me to be carrying his right to make an ass of himself too far."

-- Henry Louis Mencken, Life Magazine Aug. 5, 1946
 
Old July 30th, 2014 #263
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Why people continue to indulge this fool is beyond me...

I'm going to steal a good quote and let it stand as my final comment on this idiotic thread:

"I get on very well with honest and incorrigible Communists, for I see them as men living on borrowed time. At any moment they may be swinging from a convenient tree. But ex-Communists I cannot stomach. I distrust converts of any sort, and a man who has been converted twice, first to the Marxian whimwham and then to the even worse nonsense that usually follows, seems to me to be carrying his right to make an ass of himself too far."

-- Henry Louis Mencken, Life Magazine Aug. 5, 1946
Mencken is good at putting together cute sentences, but what else is he good for? What practical knowledge does Mencken have except as an aid for intellectual masturbation?

Eggheads like Sam and whigger Eminem-mimickers like you are out of touch with the race, plain and simple. Your ideology has utterly failed to protect the white race, the damage is so great even some of the richest and most powerful men on earth like Buffet and Gates are completely helpless when attacked by a couple of of Jews with newspapers (according to Sam, I personally think they like Jews because globalization is good for the short-term goals of billionaires).

I can find you bureaucrats that at some point have bitten the hand that feeds them, even in the cowardly and pathetic Kwa. Can you name any billionaires like that? The billionaire Pat Buchanan, the billionaire Sheriff Arpaio? Billionaires are all on board with the NWO, and that's because it's good for [their] business, as they make clear in their NY Times Op-Ed. There's nothing in capitalism that says you have to make money ethically, it's about making money and nothing else.

Keep Mencken with your Marcus Epstein , Taft Club circle-jerks. Aside from engaging the buzz caused by words used in stimulating fashions, there's really not much else to learn from him.
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Old July 30th, 2014 #264
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The myth that innovation doesn't exist in planned economies is erroneous. With not even comparable resources or capital invested as American tech, the Soviet Union developed some pretty impressive computer systems:

I don't support Bolshevism at all, but just like there are things about the USA I agree with (light industry is better off in the hands of free enterprise) , there are things that the USSR did right as well. Of course to childish reactionaries and recently reformed neo-conservative mental midgets, saying even 1 good thing about the Soviet Union makes you a "communist", so be it.

Imagine if the PARC Institute, instead of blowing all this capital and wasting the prime years of the finest Aryan minds of MIT and Stanford to research how to charge more for Xerox machines, instead had coherent and worthwhile, socially-oriented projects. Technology today would be far more advanced than it is today.

While I'm no tech genius, I have many family members who are. Windows as an OS probably since Windows '98 is the equivalent of the Trabant: Brilliant in its inception (the trabant was very compettitive in terms of performance with its Western European equivalents), but little innovation afterwards. Capitalism has its isolated moments of brilliance, but so did the USSR and every other system where there are white people. Meanwhile, Linux, where people actually work for free, makes far more marked leaps forward with every update.

If the state invested in Linux related projects, who knows how much better it would be than Windows.
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They weren't the greatest empire since the Romans, they were more like the semitic Carthaginians, but yes, I will use that against them. Despite achieving arguable highs with their mentality, they achieved extreme lows as well. That's capitalism in a nutshell. I think it's better to be steady and honest like a German, over greedy and egotistical like an Anglo.



If North Korea got the same subsidies and generous trade agreements, they would produce that too.

How would South Korea fare if the majority of the world was its enemy and it was constantly under a state of siege? Or will you continue making dishonest points neglecting all of these facts?
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They were the greatest empire as they breed America, Canada, Australia and NZ, unlike other catholic empires like Spain and Portugal whose only "gifts" were countries like Mexico and Brazil, it was a titanic task performed by men of strong will and freedom, not likely to ever be repeated again in history.

About North Korea, if all the restrictions and blockades have prevented us to witness the marvelous tech that could flourish under kim jong and affiliates, that would mean the commies need capitalist societies in order to function, as you imply, communist countries should be able to survive on their own, as their system is supposed to be autarkyc, but they not only can't produce anything of quality for export, they cannot even make it for themselves! And its not just about electronic devices or cars as I point out, we are talking about food and the most fundamental stuff that are always scarce.

Your fight is not about the white people, is about kim jong's ego, stallin's ego, or in this case your ego! You would sacrifice the security and needs of an entire people as long as you can make your point.
 
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The myth that innovation doesn't exist in planned economies is erroneous. With not even comparable resources or capital invested as American tech, the Soviet Union developed some pretty impressive computer systems:
You never ask the obvious questions. Why didn't the Soviet Union have comparable resources or capital to invest in technology? Why couldn't they sell any product more complex than vodka abroad? With few exceptions (mostly in space exploration) Soviet technology was notorious for its poor quality and lack of innovation, most designs reverse engineered from western products.

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Imagine if the PARC Institute, instead of blowing all this capital and wasting the prime years of the finest Aryan minds of MIT and Stanford to research how to charge more for Xerox machines, instead had coherent and worthwhile, socially-oriented projects. Technology today would be far more advanced than it is today.
PARC's research was used by the free market, just not by Xerox. Instead they licensed it to Apple and it was the basis of the Macintosh computer. A fairly successful American product.

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While I'm no tech genius, No, really? I have many family members who are. Windows as an OS probably since Windows '98 is the equivalent of the Trabant: Brilliant in its inception (the trabant was very compettitive in terms of performance with its Western European equivalents), but little innovation afterwards. Capitalism has its isolated moments of brilliance, but so did the USSR and every other system where there are white people.
Soviet moments of brilliance. Their space program.

US moments of brilliance. EVERYTHING ELSE. And we beat the Soviets to the Moon.

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Meanwhile, Linux, where people actually work for free, makes far more marked leaps forward with every update.

If the state invested in Linux related projects, who knows how much better it would be than Windows.
They might be as well designed as the Obamacare site.
 
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Your fight is not about the white people, is about kim jong's ego, stallin's ego, or in this case your ego! You would sacrifice the security and needs of an entire people as long as you can make your point.
He started with an urban legend and went downhill from there. Now he's reduced to half hearted endorsements of Soviet automobiles and computers. Oh communism, how we miss it. Those were the days!
 
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Capitalism is being used by the Jews to destroy us and they're winning. They're winning because capitalism is better than socialism. Whites in the US have been pacified by the growth and technological progress capitalism still delivers, even when it has to carry 100 million mud free riders along with it.

You're not going to beat that with nostalgia about Sparta, the Soviet Union or National Socialist Germany. We're in a cultural war and the enemy isn't standing still. We shouldn't either. Right now social media is tearing Israel a new asshole. That's a new tactic using new tools that didn't exist ten years ago. These tactics aren't being developed by bureaucrats - bureaucrats are on the side of the Jews.

Capitalism is a tool, Whites are good capitalists. Whites are better than Jews at almost everything, including making movies and television shows. Learn why that is and you can beat the Jews with the new (entirely non-violent) weapons technology has given us.
 
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You never ask the obvious questions. Why didn't the Soviet Union have comparable resources or capital to invest in technology?
Because Russians have always been poorer and economically behind the West, whether during the times of the USSR or Peter the Great. This is due to factors other than just economics. In fact, the Soviet Union was the closest Russia has ever been to actually catching up with the West, and even outperforming it in many sectors (mostly heavy industry).

The point wasn't about why they had less money, it's how much they did with it via the planned economy. It was simply more efficient than capitalism in that regard.

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Why couldn't they sell any product more complex than vodka abroad? With few exceptions (mostly in space exploration) Soviet technology was notorious for its poor quality and lack of innovation, most designs reverse engineered from western products.
Ever heard of the AK-47, the most popular rifle on earth? RPG-7, MiG-15, etc were very popular, and some are still preferred over American arms today 24 years after the USSR.

When it comes to consumer goods, I can't really tell you what they sell abroad. But Soviet brands have come back with a bang in Russia, after the 90's were dominated by American and Western imports. If Soviet food, etc was so bad they wouldn't be so popular in Russia:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sponsored...d-popular.html

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Passing enthusiasm for Nineties imported foodstuffs in glitzy packaging has given way to the taste of childhood memories and comfort foods. Many goods brought back from the Soviet era give foreign competitors a run for their money in supermarkets and shops: Alenka milk chocolate bars; 48-kopek vanilla ice-cream; Stolichnaya wheat-grain vodka; Moskovskaya vodka; Vologda butter; Doctorskaya boiled sausage, and many more.


Experts estimate that there are about 3,000 former Soviet brands selling well today, and their numbers are set to grow.


Some foods have been repackaged while Soviet-style packaging is part of the appeal in others. Soviet pelmeni (dumplings consisting of a filling wrapped in thin, unleavened dough) are still sold in their dreary cardboard boxes, and sweetened condensed milk still comes in blue-striped 9oz cans.


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PARC's research was used by the free market, just not by Xerox. Instead they licensed it to Apple and it was the basis of the Macintosh computer. A fairly successful American product.
The Macintosh was simply a combination of existing technology, principally the Apple II and the Lisa. What's so innovative about that? It's just more wasting of Aryan talent to further rip off the kind of asshole who uses a MAC in the first place.

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Soviet moments of brilliance. Their space program.
That's right, the Soviet Union never developed anything else, that's why the Cold War happened. China is a massive country with a massive population and has nukes as well, but because they're stale chinks they can't ever compete with the white man on a global scale (unless, of course, it's on the "free market" where worthless and flimsy Chinese exports have flooded the West) . The Soviets after WWII certainly were catching up and at some points projected to pass the United States. Nixon knew it, the "terrible Swedish Jew" Eisenhower knew it, LBJ knew it, it's Birch Society comic book history to say otherwise.

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US moments of brilliance. EVERYTHING ELSE. And we beat the Soviets to the Moon.
Like what? You could argue the national highway system, space program, etc but this was all based on stolen (state-directed) research and innovations from the Third Reich.

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They might be as well designed as the Obamacare site.
I don't understand what mud incompetence has to do with what we're talking about. Guess why the Obamacare site is shit compared to say, a German government health care site? Take a wild guess. I'll give you 2.

The fact that you will use the fuck ups of ZOG's H1B and Affirmative Action staff to imply something about an economic theory America doesn't even practice is obtuse and facetious. It shows that despite being on VNN, you haven't evolved past shitty neo-con arguments and race-denying rationalizations for the state America is currently in. It's equally as dumb as when Leftists use Haiti to demonstrate the failure of capitalism.

It's because America is majority non-white, or almost there. This is independent of the system of economics, since regardless of the Jewish question, it was the "market" that allowed for conditions to bring us to where we are now anyway. Jews bought America's capitalist ruling class. They offered multiple times the value of the business to buy all the media outlets from Goy jackasses thinking only with their bank account.

Jews were more effective in America than even in the Soviet Union not because of some great achievement of capitalism, but because the capitalist system selects for a ruling class that will sell their grandma if you offer them a nice sum. You can't buy a Cossack, but for the right fee the average millionaire will let you sodomize his mother.


To be a "sell out" in capitalism is actually a badge of honor and the whole point of the system. The Goys who sold the New York Times to the Jews so that they can have a tribal weapon to use against us, in capitalist morality, did absolutely nothing wrong, and only a socialist (IE a racialist, as libertarians correctly point out) would say they did. They worked hard building the name of the New York Times, took risks on the market, succeeded, and then sold the rights to the highest bidder. To act like this in a NS state means getting a train ride to a magical place where you can hang out all day long with your spiritual Kike kin.
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He started with an urban legend and went downhill from there. Now he's reduced to half hearted endorsements of Soviet automobiles and computers. Oh communism, how we miss it. Those were the days!
But socialism will work this time, I swear it, you have to believe me, please!!!
 
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But socialism will work this time, I swear it, you have to believe me, please!!!
Yeah let's go back to laissez-faire, so mothers can feed their hungry babies opium to stop crying because it's cheaper than food. You got a lot of good to say about the enterprising spirit of historical Mafia capos, I guess like all capitalists you like rule by gangsters, possibly because you see yourself in such a scenario as one of the ruling thugs.

Good luck with the Anarcho-capitalist Jewish-yet-anti-Jewish white revolution
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Yeah let's go back to laissez-faire, so mothers can feed their hungry babies opium to stop crying because it's cheaper than food. You got a lot of good to say about the enterprising spirit of historical Mafia capos, I guess like all capitalists you like rule by gangsters, possibly because you see yourself in such a scenario as one of the ruling thugs.

Good luck with the Anarcho-capitalist Jewish-yet-anti-Jewish white revolution
I think I already answered you about that, go back to page 12, don´t be lazy little Kim.
 
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Because Russians have always been poorer and economically behind the West, whether during the times of the USSR or Peter the Great. This is due to factors other than just economics. In fact, the Soviet Union was the closest Russia has ever been to actually catching up with the West, and even outperforming it in many sectors (mostly heavy industry).

The point wasn't about why they had less money, it's how much they did with it via the planned economy. It was simply more efficient than capitalism in that regard.
You think the empty shelves at the Soviet markets were proof of efficiency? The total lack of consumer exports? Oh wait, there's their losing fighter aircraft...

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Ever heard of the AK-47, the most popular rifle on earth? RPG-7, MiG-15, etc were very popular, and some are still preferred over American arms today 24 years after the USSR.
The Soviets also produced some great chess players. Soviet accomplishments - it's a short list.

MIGs got shot down almost every time they went up against US fighters.

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When it comes to consumer goods, I can't really tell you what they sell abroad. But Soviet brands have come back with a bang in Russia, after the 90's were dominated by American and Western imports. If Soviet food, etc was so bad they wouldn't be so popular in Russia:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sponsored...d-popular.html
That's analogous to Juggalos drinking Faygo.

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The Macintosh was simply a combination of existing technology, principally the Apple II and the Lisa. What's so innovative about that? It's just more wasting of Aryan talent to further rip off the kind of asshole who uses a MAC in the first place.
PARC's work on display and interface influenced every computer made since, so your claim that they wasted their time designing better copy machines fails. Typical for your claims.

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That's right, the Soviet Union never developed anything else, that's why the Cold War happened.
The Cold War was mostly about keeping the big government created by the New Deal and Second World War up and running. It was exploited by CIA asset William F. Buckley to neutralize the Taft wing of the Republican party.

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I don't understand what mud incompetence has to do with what we're talking about. Guess why the Obamacare site is shit compared to say, a German government health care site? Take a wild guess. I'll give you 2.

The fact that you will use the fuck ups of ZOG's H1B and Affirmative Action staff to imply something about an economic theory America doesn't even practice is obtuse and facetious. It shows that despite being on VNN, you haven't evolved past shitty neo-con arguments and race-denying rationalizations for the state America is currently in. It's equally as dumb as when Leftists use Haiti to demonstrate the failure of capitalism.
Experiments with racially identical populations in North and South Korea and East and West Germany showed that communism sucks.

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It's because America is majority non-white, or almost there. This is independent of the system of economics, since regardless of the Jewish question, it was the "market" that allowed for conditions to bring us to where we are now anyway. Jews bought America's capitalist ruling class. They offered multiple times the value of the business to buy all the media outlets from Goy jackasses thinking only with their bank account.

Jews were more effective in America than even in the Soviet Union not because of some great achievement of capitalism, but because the capitalist system selects for a ruling class that will sell their grandma if you offer them a nice sum.
Jews were more effective at killing White people under communism, at least until they lost control. Communism and socialism create far more dangerous governments, it's not even comparable. Communism can kill millions in just a few years, and stifles every form of rebellion. The ideas of freedom that define the United States are why you can have a place like VNN to talk about these issues. Try that in any of your socialist paradises.
 
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Capitalism is Usury. Its defining belief is ‘return on investment’. This is an extension of the ‘time value’ of money, which is the central tenet of modern economics. Capitalism is unthinkable without banking and banking is institutionalized Usury.

Usury is Plutocracy. Compound interest makes it unavoidable that the very richest own everything in generations.

And this is indeed what happened: Capitalism is one huge global monopoly. All the major banks own each other and most Transnationals plus a huge chunk of land. This juggernaut was built with the plunder of Usury.

We have all seen that Rothschild was worth 50 billion in 1850. At 5% per year, this fortune would now be a trillion, at 8% per year Rothschild would now be worth hundreds of trillions.

This is why it has been said that ‘compound interest is the strongest force in the Universe’.

This is Usurious Usurpation.

The Rise of Capitalism
Modern Capitalism was first clearly visible in the Dutch Republic, where Italian Banking, expelled Iberian Jews, the Reformation, naval power and the acquisition of huge trade fortunes came together in the Amsterdam Empire, which would outshine its much bigger Spanish, British and even French competitors until the mid seventeenth century.

Everything that defines modern Capitalism was either invented or came to fruition in Amsterdam. The first Stock Exchange, Multinationals (the East Indies Company, which would rule over Indonesia with unrestrained Corporatocracy for centuries), and most importantly, a Central Bank, the ‘Amsterdamsche Wisselbank’. And of course a huge pile of money, that would be the envy of Europe even long after its ‘glory’ had subsided.
Up to 2500 guilders (estates could be bought for that kind of money) were paid for a single Viceroy Tulip bulb at the peak . "A Satire of Tulip Mania' depicts speculators as brainless monkeys.

Up to 2500 guilders (estates could be bought for that kind of money) were paid for a single Viceroy Tulip bulb at the peak . “A Satire of Tulip Mania’ depicts speculators as brainless monkeys.

Amsterdam also saw the first bubble: the Tulip mania, 1637. This typical banker device, blowing bubbles with easy credit and then popping them by calling in loans, would haunt Western economies for centuries to come.

The Dutch Republic resulted from a Calvinist rebellion against Catholic Spain. Calvin is considered by many to have been Jewish. He openly defended Usury. This was in an era that the Medieval era of Usury prohibition was in terminal decline.

Calvinist thought was also infected by the typically Jewish notion that wealth is a sign of God’s favor.

Notwithstanding Usury prohibition, Jewish Usury had been a huge issue throughout the Middle Ages and it does not require a great leap of the imagination to see that Capitalism is in fact the modern equivalent of what was once known as Jewish Usury.

Jewish fortunes and their methods played a large part in Amsterdam. Their ships would also dominate the growing slave trade on America. They had come from Spain, after being expelled in 1492. Holland was known at the time for its ‘tolerance’.

Amsterdam was the first great star of high finance. Opulence acquired through trade became Capital, looking for returns. And here we see that Capitalism is about finance, not production or consumption. Finance rules over producers, workers, consumers, farmers, crafstmen and industrialists alike.

They lend to those they control or want to control and withhold credit to those for whom they have no purpose. Usury gives them their take of any venture. By keeping money scarce, they keep labor cheap. This is how money rules.

Moving on to Britain
Amsterdam peaked in 1648, when the peace of Westphalia ended both the 80 year war for independence with Spain and the 30 year war in Germany. But after the peak comes the decline and already in the fifties problems began to mount when Cromwell landed a blow on Dutch naval supremacy with the Acts of Navigation.

The Jews had been expelled from Britain in 1290. This was a few decades after the Magna Carta, which clearly points at Jewish Usury as a huge problem at the time.

Cromwell, who was a calvinist Puritan, negotiated extensively with Amsterdam Jews about resettlement. He probably was a tool of Jewish/Amsterdam finance to begin with.

Resettlement came with the promise of making London a better Amsterdam. And while British merchants (and many others too) were against the readmittance of the Jews, Cromwell went ahead anyway. The Puritans were optimistic and naive and thought they could ‘redeem’ the Jews. But while Jewish Capital indeed pushed Britain’s Empire to unprecedented heights, there was no redemption: by the end of the 19th century the British Aristocracy had been entirely Judaized.

While Cromwell, as a tool of Amsterdam Imperialism, ultimately failed, the Jews did not relent and they had a second shot at London with the Glorious Revolution, when William III of Orange, Stadtholder of Holland, became William III of Britain and the Dutch Republic and England were united in a personal union.

He repaid his financial backers by chartering the Bank of England in 1694 and this was the official entry of Capitalism in Britain. It came with the end of sovereign money and the ascent of Gold: until then the British economy had been financed with Talley Sticks, simple pieces of wood issued by the King. British partners in the Bank paid for their shares with them, but the first thing the Bank did was take them out of circulation. The Bank of England is only the eigth bank in history and is the second oldest to survive today.

The United States
The real history of the United States is not about the War of Independence and the Constitution. It’s about banking.

The United States did not revolt over ‘taxes without representation’. According to Benjamin Franklin the real reason for the War of Independence was that Whitehall forced scarce money through Britain’s Gold Standard on the Colonies, who had thrived with their own Colonial Scrip. A depression was the inevitable result.

Only a few years after nominal independence, Hamilton’s first Bank of the United States brought Capitalism to the United States. It was closed in 1800, but in 1816, in the aftermath of the war with Britain, a second Bank of the United States (a privately owned corporation) was opened with a 20 year charter.

The heroic President Andrew Jackson did not renew this charter and miraculously survived an attempt on his life. His last words, ‘I killed the Bank’ still ring triumphantly through the ages. Unfortunately, he failed to replace it with a decent monetary system and the country was plunged in a depression because of a tanking money supply.

This left the Whigs, Abraham Lincoln prominently among them, plenty of scope to campaign for a new ‘National’ Bank, which came in the aftermath of the Civil War.

In 1913 the Federal Reserve Bank was founded. This privately owned corporation is owned by primarily Jewish ‘member banks’. The presidents of the Federal Reserve are always Jewish and by far most of its board members are too. It’s no secret Wall Street is run by the Jews and is now the global standard bearer of Jewish Usury with derivatives being the scam du jour.

Of course there are Americans in Wall Street too, just as there are Englishmen in the City or Germans in Deutsche Bank, but whereas these nationalities compete amongst each other, the Jews are strong in all nations and this gives them supremacy.

Equally true is that the Jewish many gain nothing from the banking prowess of their ‘elites’. They may have some privileges, but on the other hand they’re also easily duped into nasty affairs or sacrificed like the pawns we all are.

But considering the above history of Capitalism and Jewish Usury, it is very hard to avoid the conclusion that they are the same thing.

Conclusion
YHVH emphatically orders the Jews several times to conquer the world with Usury in Deutoronomy, for instance: “15:6 For the LORD thy God blesseth thee, as he promised thee: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, but thou shalt not borrow; and thou shalt reign over many nations, but they shall not reign over thee.”

Pivotal documents from the medieval era squarely point at Jewish Usury. We have already mentioned the Magna Carta, but there is also for instance the Quran: ‘That they (the Jews) took usury, though they were forbidden; and that they devoured men’s substance wrongfully;- we have prepared for those among them who reject faith a grievous punishment.’ (sura 4.161)

Capitalism and its ‘return on investment’ is clearly the successor of medieval Jewish Usury. It arose during the destruction of medieval Usury prohibition. Its typical devices, Usury, Banking, the Stock Exchange, asset bubbles, Transnationals, all were already present in Amsterdam. It was this force that migrated to Britain and the US. It was in these three financial Empires that Captitalism showed its unrestrained imperialist designs.

Already the poor lose up to 50% of their income to Usury, mostly passed on by producers in prices. The middle classes are somewhat better off, but they are being decapitated everywhere. Usury only benefits the richest 10%, while most of the money ends up with the ‘fabulously’ wealthy.

The enslavement is total: most people work the first two and half days of the week to pay off the bank. Even if they have no debts.

And we face not only enslavement, but extinction. Mass immigration, combined with the demographic catastrophy caused by the trinity of feminism, the not-so-gay lobby, and sexual ‘liberation’, is now threatening to actually destroy the white race. Whites are expected to be a minority all over the West in 2050/2060 and irrelevant by the end of the century.

Capitalism is the core of the Jewish Question. All their other depravities, including Zionism and (Cultural) Marxism were built and financed from the Capitalist powerbase.

The Jewish Question can only be reasonably resolved by reforming money and ending its rule through Usury.
 
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I think I already answered you about that, go back to page 12, don´t be lazy little Kim.
You said you'd rather be led by Salvatore Lucania over the Knight/Warrior class that protected Europe from incursions from non-white empires. That means you'd rather live under a mafia thug over a society centered around chivalry, in other words, you're a fan of capitalism since rule by mafia thugs (generally Jewish, but sometimes gentile) and plutocrats is its eventual end whether in Britain, Holland , or America.

There's a reason why the vast majority of Libertarian capitalist theorists are as Jewish as the endorsers of Bolshevism. IF you think it's a coincidence, then you are suffering from cognitive dissonance.


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You think the empty shelves at the Soviet markets were proof of efficiency? The total lack of consumer exports? Oh wait, there's their losing fighter aircraft...
What proof do you have that this was such a factor in the USSR? Empty shelves were not uncommon in some backwater parts of the USSR. People still have as little or less access to goods in these parts of Europe to this day under capitalism. Communist stores have empty shelves, capitalist ones have stocked shelves of shit nobody can afford, it ends up being the same thing. Maybe you in your easy credit American bubble can't fathom that, but that's the reality in these places today.


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The Soviets also produced some great chess players. Soviet accomplishments - it's a short list.
But that's true for Russia in general. How can you scapegoat the Soviet Union for this? The Soviet Union, when looking at it from an unattached historicist perspective (ala Hegel), was one of the pinnacles of Russian history. That is why most Russians who loath communism (for its political doctrine like anti-christianity, internationalism, and feminism far more than its economics), still in some ways have nostalgia for the "RUSSIA STRONG" days.


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MIGs got shot down almost every time they went up against US fighters.
As for the mig, go ahead and inform yourself:
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That's analogous to Juggalos drinking Faygo.
So in other words I show you countless examples of Soviet era brands outselling allegedly "superior" Western consumer products, and you have no answer.

I think the Faygo analogy applies better to people in the Eastern Bloc yearning for Levi's, the Beatles, Pepsi, and other Jew made brands they developed subcultures and cults around. They tasted it, thought it was ok but highly overrated, and are now realizing the Soviet goods were not nearly as bad as they thought.

That's the objective reality. Aside from my hatred of communism (and capitalism), I'm not going to make things up about them because I dislike this ideology. And I'm not going to pretend Kwa and the equally Judaic system of capitalism is any better.

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PARC's work on display and interface influenced every computer made since, so your claim that they wasted their time designing better copy machines fails. Typical for your claims.
Meanwhile public research was focusing on creating the internet. What was more groundbreaking, the trivial anarchy of the market, or white men sitting down and pooling their powers to create something that will change the world even if it doesn't yield immediate profits?

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The Cold War was mostly about keeping the big government created by the New Deal and Second World War up and running. It was exploited by CIA asset William F. Buckley to neutralize the Taft wing of the Republican party.
That's a real creative conspiracy theory. As if the Taft wing (as manifested today by the Paleo-Cons) of the Republican party was worth a damn.



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Experiments with racially identical populations in North and South Korea and East and West Germany showed that communism sucks.
In equal conditions, they were closer than you'd think. Considering Honecker inherited an East Germany with all of its heavy industry destroyed, while the West of Germany was always its industrial heartland and a lot of it was in tact, I think its remarkable what he accomplished. Add in Stalin stealing East German resources, and this rebuilding was even more impressive.

The planned economies of North Korea and East Germany both outdid their counterparts in numerous sectors at varying points, until the 1980's when Soviet subsidies and importation began to decrease. Until the 80's boom, North Korea was considered to have a better standard of living than South Korea. Would you rather have a decent standard of living consistently forever, or would you rather have periods of great wealth and then busts of great poverty? What do you think is better for a race or a nation?

North Korea today, isolated from the world and targeted by world Jewry, well an honest person would ask "How would South Korea look in North Korea's position". But you're not an honest person, you're an ideologue looking to justify the failure of capitalism, rather than actually soberly looking at both sides and seeing what we can get from both.


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Jews were more effective at killing White people under communism, at least until they lost control. Communism and socialism create far more dangerous governments, it's not even comparable. Communism can kill millions in just a few years, and stifles every form of rebellion. The ideas of freedom that define the United States are why you can have a place like VNN to talk about these issues. Try that in any of your socialist paradises.
Maybe under Stalin, but starting in the 70's you were more likely to be killed by niggers in one of America's beautiful diversifying neighborhoods than you were in any context in the relatively homogenous Russian part of the USSR.

The ideas of freedom that define the United States are in words and even theory not any different from what was in the Soviet constitution. Words don't mean diddly shit. With all the outrages against the will of the majority that the US government has passed, where are the revolts if people are so free? In the Eastern bloc you had 1956 Hungary, 1955 in Germany, etc. No equivalent in America.

The propaganda and totalitarianism of America is more subtle than the hamfisted and obvious stuff they came up with in the Soviet Union, but it doesn't mean it's less totalitarian.

They let you have VNN because its an internet forum and little can be done about it. You'll start seeing how much "freedom" you have once you're able to jump the barriers they put in your place and get an actual political movement going. What happened during the show trial of Matt Hale or what is happening to Golden Dawn is no different than how the Soviets framed their political crackdowns, the only difference is there are still people like you dumb enough to think you're actually free because you can post on an internet forum.

Cubans with internet connections write whatever they want about their communist government on their little blogs. Some of them are even on CIA payrolls and still aren't touched. I guess then Cuba has "freedumb".
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Let me Quote myself Kim, as I see you didn´t bother reading.

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Of course i dont want to be ruled by mobsters, I was just trying to make a point between mafia and jewish socialism. In the mafia if a member does something to hurt the family, they kill the man and his wife and children are left untouched and with means to survive, in socialism if a man does something to hurt the politsburo, they starve the whole family, send you to the gulag and try to indoctrinate the children. So between the two evils, I choose one with a soft moral basis rather than one who goes around acting self righteous and pretends to own my property and my labor.


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You said you'd rather be led by Salvatore Lucania over the Knight/Warrior class that protected Europe from incursions from non-white empires. That means you'd rather live under a mafia thug over a society centered around chivalry, in other words, you're a fan of capitalism since rule by mafia thugs (generally Jewish, but sometimes gentile) and plutocrats is its eventual end whether in Britain, Holland , or America.

There's a reason why the vast majority of Libertarian capitalist theorists are as Jewish as the endorsers of Bolshevism. IF you think it's a coincidence, then you are suffering from cognitive dissonance.
Why does a self-claimed NS is constantly whitewashing communism in a thread about capitalism?, I don´t see you using examples of NS economy when comparing different statements. The last five pages has been about Korea and Soviet Russia with you. Why don´t you look at Venezuela, that country has exacly the same policies you want to endorse, yet their crime rate is second higuest in the world, and they have normal business relationships with USA and the western world.

I guess you can´t no longer hide the fact that your ideology is as red as firefighter truck. You were so drunk with the company of Marx and Lenin, that the hangover left you confused, so how could you expect to be supported when you don´t really know where you stand?
 
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Marin - Capitalism and Communism are flip sides of the same marxist coin. Under both systems jews exert full and complete authority/control. So in that regard, they're similar. 2 separate angles for jews to maintain power/money/dominance. Show me a single billionaire in the USA that isn't using their vast monetary resources to further the Marxist agenda in some way? Why are the biggest success stories of Capitalism also the biggest proponents of Marxism? Capitalism and Marxism are like queer fudgepacker lovers!

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Let me Quote myself Kim, as I see you didn´t bother reading.

Why does a self-claimed NS is constantly whitewashing communism in a thread about capitalism?, I don´t see you using examples of NS economy when comparing different statements. The last five pages has been about Korea and Soviet Russia with you. Why don´t you look at Venezuela, that country has exacly the same policies you want to endorse, yet their crime rate is second higuest in the world, and they have normal business relationships with USA and the western world.

I guess you can´t no longer hide the fact that your ideology is as red as firefighter truck. You were so drunk with the company of Marx and Lenin, that the hangover left you confused, so how could you expect to be supported when you don´t really know where you stand?
The reason I post about that is because you and like 2 other people have come in here with your New England Anabaptism (IE, the American love of Judaism/Capitalism), whining about how horrible communism is, when capitalism is no different. I am demonstrating that communism has as many pros and cons as capitalism, and capitalism has more cons when it comes to European racial preservation.

Maybe if you stopped making shit up about the history of the world and using it to argue against my third positionist economic theory, I wouldn't have to talk about it. Aspiring John Galts/Angry Nerds and Judaized hypocrites who want to call me a communist might as well do it with every great racialist in contemporary history.

You have no real arguments, so you come up with personal attacks. Communism died decades ago, and now capitalism is the #1 economic enemy of the white race.

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Why don´t you look at Venezuela, that country has exacly the same policies you want to endorse, yet their crime rate is second higuest in the world, and they have normal business relationships with USA and the western world.
You know why 90% non-white Venezuela has so many problems. But you're intellectually dishonest and a Whig fanatic, following dead-end theories made up by Uncle Tom's like Thomas Sowell to blame non-white failure on rational economic planning. I don't see the free market working too well in Somalia, which has the policies you endorse (along with rule by gangsters and pirates which is great for individual rights).
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The reason I post about that is because you and like 2 other people have come in here with your New England Anabaptism (IE, the American love of Judaism/Capitalism), whining about how horrible communism is, when capitalism is no different. I am demonstrating that communism has as many pros and cons as capitalism, and capitalism has more cons when it comes to European racial preservation.
Pros of communism = great negro inventions.
 
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Cubans with internet connections write whatever they want about their communist government on their little blogs. Some of them are even on CIA payrolls and still aren't touched. I guess then Cuba has "freedumb".
Dissident Cuban blogger arrested, colleagues say

(CNN) -- Cuban authorities detained dissident blogger Yoani Sanchez along with two others as she traveled to cover the trial of a Spanish politician accused of killing a prominent dissident, a human rights activist told CNN on Friday.

A family member of the well-known blogger said that Sanchez, her husband, Reinaldo Escobar, and another blogger, Agustin Diaz, were arrested in the eastern Cuban city of Bayamo on Thursday, activist and dissident Elizardo Sanchez told CNN en Espańol.

Internet censorship in Cuba

Internet censorship in Cuba is extensive. The Cuban internet is among the most tightly controlled in the world. A special permit is required to use the Internet and all e-mails are intricately monitored. Cuba has been listed as an "Internet Enemy" by Reporters Without Borders since the list was created in 2006.
 
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