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Old February 23rd, 2013 #121
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If you white guys can't see that we're among 3 of the chosen rats on just the last page, your jewdar needs adjustment.

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Old February 23rd, 2013 #122
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That's the second person, just that I know of, whom you've told to "get the fuck out" within just the last few days; the first one being me.
Lay off the mini-modding, Mr. Keyboard Commando.
So you can count to two? I'm impressed.

Considering your talent for pattern recognition you're curiously quiet to comment on the long record of your shitposts -- but I will: the whole "angry white male" pose was played out on day #1. Your posts are the worst type of attention-seeking nastiness, your insights empty and your insults childish.

You are such a predictable piece of shit.
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If you white men can't see that we're among 3 of the chosen rats on just the last page, your jewdar needs adjustment.
I dare you to call me a jew, you pot-bellied pig.

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Yeah. That's what I thought. Coward.
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Old February 23rd, 2013 #124
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I dare you to call me a jew, .
If the Foo shits, wear it, bitch.
 
Old February 23rd, 2013 #125
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Considering your talent for pattern recognition you're curiously quiet to comment on the long record of your shitposts -- but I will: the whole "angry white male" pose was played out on day #1.
Are you accusing me of being a troll?

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Your posts are the worst type of attention-seeking nastiness, your insights empty and your insults childish.
Attention seeking? No.
Empty insights? Whatever you say.
My insults childish? That is RICH coming from you.

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You are such a predictable piece of shit.
Your attitude is shit, and I'm sure many here would agree with me.
 
Old February 23rd, 2013 #126
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me a jew
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

I wear the red thumbs you're so dedicated to giving me every day, like a badge of honor. They mean you lost.
 
Old February 23rd, 2013 #127
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If you white guys can't see that we're among 3 of the chosen rats on just the last page, your jewdar needs adjustment.
I dare you to call me a jew, you pot-bellied pig.
Fred won't directly call you a jew - it's against the rules. Instead, he tries to imply people are jews, with statements like

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they are HasbaRATS/JIDF,
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Do you know anything about anything, I mean besides the talmud?
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Any poster who comes to a WN site and tries to elevate the image of any kike is a kike.
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[] how can you follow such a great post by Stonewall with your inbred kikish drivel? He just shined a light into your tribe's ghetto, and out you popped.
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Izzy, []
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Try this one, hymie.
et cetera.

He'll be back to throw a paddy over this post soon.
 
Old February 23rd, 2013 #128
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I've been aware of your loyalties almost from the first, Gibson. Since the jews did 9/11 thread almost 3 years ago. You showed us all what you are.
 
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I've been aware of your loyalties almost from the first, Gibson. Since the jews did 9/11 thread almost 3 years ago. You showed us all what you are.
Ah yes, that was a fun thread But it wasn't about loyalty, it was about matters of fact (on which we still disagree).
 
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Ah yes, that was a fun thread But it wasn't about loyalty, it was about matters of fact (on which we still disagree).
Yep, the tribe on one side and whites on the other.
 
Old February 23rd, 2013 #131
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If you white guys can't see that we're among 3 of the chosen rats on just the last page, your jewdar needs adjustment.
Call me a jew one more time Freddie O'Mallowitz and I'll find you, then I will knock you back to the first St. Patrick's Day you slimey dysgenic specimen of a trogladyte you.
 
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Call me a jew one more time Freddie O'Mallowitz and I'll find you, then I will knock you back to the first St. Patrick's Day you slimey dysgenic specimen of a trogladyte you.
C'mon, Izzies can't fight!
 
Old February 23rd, 2013 #133
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C'mon, Izzies can't fight!
Famous last words you toxic zoggling.
 
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Famous last words you toxic zoggling.
Me? You and Varg's troll brigade are the toxic ones here. Don't scare me so bad next time, I almost dropped my Cheeto.
 
Old February 23rd, 2013 #135
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Default Ah yes, trick #7, quoting out of context

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First off, Winterberg does not say that his work proves Einstein plagiarized or nostrified Hilbert. He actually says:

Quote: My analysis of Hilbert's mutilated proofs therefore cannot prove that Einstein copied from Hilbert.

True, this appears on p 718 of Winterberg's paper. Oh-Oh, yes, I have a copy of the paper, I have read it and you have quoted Winterberg out of context.

Following is a further part of the Winterburg paper:
Quote:
This
raises the suspicion that it was not done with scissors,
but with a razor blade or pocket knife, possibly in the
special collection – reading room of the Goettingen library,
with the intent to erase the long held view that
Hilbert had the correct final form of the field equation
before Einstein, a view held by many physicists,
including celebrity physicist Steven Hawking [8].
Note the Hawking citation. At the end of this lengthy copy the references from Winterberg's paper appear. Generally I would not post something this long but , in this case, will do so to give context to what Winterberg really said.

Now I am going to post a full copy of paragraphs starting on page 718 (the paper starts on p 715 of the journal) and let the readers determine if the sentence you pulled from Winterberg's paper fully expresses his viewpoints.

I have highlighted the sentence which Norling quoted out of context.

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starting on page 718:
In spite of this remarkable success, Einstein was not
able to obtain the correct field equation in the presence
of matter. Because Grossmann was unable to figure
it out for Einstein, Einstein sought the help of
the famous Goettingen mathematicians Felix Klein and
David Hilbert. Inspired by Mie’s theory, Hilbert was already
working on a unified field theory of gravity and
electromagnetism. Even though Hilbert sent Einstein
a copy of his not yet published paper, which Einstein
received on Nov. 18, 1915, one can not prove that Einstein
corrected his incorrect field equation after having
seen Hilbert’s paper, because it cannot be excluded
that in the week following Nov. 11, 1915 Einstein had
finally and independently arrived at the same solution.
My analysis of Hilbert’s mutilated proofs therefore
cannot prove that Einstein copied from Hilbert.
It
proves less, which is that it cannot be proved that Einstein
could not have copied from Hilbert. But it proves
that Hilbert had not copied from Einstein, as it has
been insinuated following the paper by Corry, Renn,
and Stachel.

I must also disagree in at least one point with Sauer
[7], who otherwise comes to similar conclusions. He
too notices the cut off part of Hilbert’s page proofs,
and he too believes that the equation
H = K + L
must have be in the cut off part. But his statement:
“One possible reason for Hilbert’s cutting out this
piece would be that he wanted to paste it into some
other manuscript in order to avoid the pains of copying
the equations by hand,” is not very credible for such a
simple equation. Instead of assuming that the cut off
piece also contained Hilbert’s definition for the variational
derivative, he rather believes that it contained the
expression of the curvature invariant K in terms of the
tensor Kμν which, as Sauer correctly says, is sufficient
to arrive at the trace term missing in the equation by
Einstein and Grossmann.

Inspecting the back of page 8, which is page 7, one
can see that the cut is not straight, but rather slightly
curved in passing through a sentence on page 7. This
raises the suspicion that it was not done with scissors,
but with a razor blade or pocket knife, possibly in the
special collection – reading room of the Goettingen library,
with the intent to erase the long held view that
Hilbert had the correct final form of the field equation
before Einstein, a view held by many physicists,
including celebrity physicist Steven Hawking [8]. As
C. J. Bjerknes [9] has pointed out to me, the fact that
the cut passes through a sentence on page 7 and not on
page 8, suggests that it was intended for page 8, giving
further support for the hypothesis of a forgery with
the purpose to suggest that Hilbert had copied from
Einstein. In science as in history, forgeries are nothing
new. Examples are the Constitutum Constantini,
the vineland map, the Piltdown man hoax, and most
recently the burial box of James, the brother of Jesus.
Sauer’s conjecture that Hilbert had cut off the upper
one third of page 8 to paste it into one of his other
manuscripts to save him the time to rewrite the equations
of this upper part, is in view of my analysis of the
content of the cut off part highly improbable. Hilbert
uses both in the proofs and in the published version the
short hand bracket notation for the variational derivative,
but only the published version has the definition
equation for the bracket notation. This is strong evidence
that the proofs must have contained this definition
equation as well, and this equation must have been
in the cut off part of page 8. The remaining space in the
cut off part of page 8 is probably too small to have contained
the explicit expression of the curvature invariant
(requiring two lines) as it is believed by Sauer, but even
if true, would not change my conclusion.
In summary, one can say that the general theory of
relativity is the creation of three men:

1. Einstein, who by the analogy with Gauss’s theory
of curved surfaces, concluded that the gravitational
field must be expressed by the 10 components of the
metric tensor of a curved four-dimensional Minkowski
space-time.

2. Grossmann, who identified the contracted Riemann
tensor as the key for the solution of the problem
posed by Einstein.

3. Hilbert, for having completed the mathematical
structure of the theory with his variational principle for
the curvature scalar in four space-time dimensions.

[1] L. Corry, J. Renn, and J. Stachel, Science 278, 1270
(1997).
[2] J. Renn and J. Stachel, preprint 118 (1999), Max
Planck Institute for the History of Science, Berlin, Germany,
p. 17.
[3] D. Hilbert, Kgl. Ges. d. Wiss. Nachrichten, Math.-
phys. Klasse. 1915, Heft 3.
[4] The collected papers of Albert Einstein, Vol. 6, Princeton
University Press 1996.
[5] M. Grossmann, Entwurf einer verallgemeinerten Relativit
¨atstheorie und einer Theorie der Gravitation: II.
Mathematischer Teil (I. Physikalischer Teil von A. Einstein),
B. G. Teubner, Leipzig and Berlin 1913, p. 36.
[6] A. Einstein, K¨oniglich Preussische Akademie der Wissenschaften
(Berlin), Sitzungsberichte Nov. 11, 1915:
799 – 801.
[7] T. Sauer, Arch. Hist. Exact Sci. 53, 529 (1999).
[8] Steven Hawking in his Time Magazine article, Einstein
Man of the Century, Time Magazine, Dec. 31, 1999,
p. 57.
[9] C. J. Bjerknes, Private Communication.
[10] C. J. Bjerknes, Anticipations of Einstein in the General
Theory of Relativity, XTX Inc. Downers Grove, Illinois
USA, 2003.
[11] A. A. Logunov, Mestvirishvili M.A. and Petrov V.A.,
IHEP Preprint 2004-7.-Protvino, 2004, Russia.
What people use out of context quoting as a favorite trick?
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What people use out of context quoting as a favorite trick?
The point of the quote summarizes his main conclusion rather nicely. I.e, there is no proof that Einstein copied (or plagiarized) Hilbert. Winterberg is, there, basically just trying to show that Hilbert wasn't copying Einstein.
 
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What people use out of context quoting as a favorite trick?
A boatload.
 
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C'mon, Izzies can't fight!
If one's father is a jew, that makes him a jew, in my book. Don't let them fool you. Race is real. Jews argue against it. You can easily spot them.


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