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Old October 5th, 2012 #1
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Default #1 Hal Turner Thread: Former FBI informant Hal Turner released from prison

http://www.northjersey.com/news/crim...om_prison.html

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Harold “Hal” Turner, the incendiary Internet raidio shock jock and former national security confidential source for the FBI , walked out of a halfway house in Newark this morning after serving nearly three years in prison for threatening federal judges.

Turner now goes home to his condo in North Bergen where he still must remain under “house arrest” for six months -- only able to leave home for work, medical , religious and legal reasons.

With his release, Turner begins a three-year term of supervised release, under the supervision of the U.S. Probation Office. He declined to give an interview to a reporter after regaining his freedom.

However, in an interview earlier this week he strongly affirmed his belief that he did nothing wrong and was wrongly convicted of threatening the judges in what he claims was nothing more than a caustic editorial published on his web site in June 2009.
 
Old October 5th, 2012 #2
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If the fbi comes and questions someone, does that automatically make him an informant?

Who did Turner snitch on?

Who went to jail because of Turner?

What proof does anyone have that Turner took money? Does someone have access to the fbi payroll department records? Or are we to unquestionably believe fbi statements put out by the jew media?

Even if Turner took fbi money, who's to say he wasn't playing them for suckers?

What solid proof does anyone have that Turner is not a WN war casualty for speaking out against the jew?

Why are there so many anonymous WN forum posters bashing Turner without a shead of credible evidence against him?

Just asking.

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Old October 5th, 2012 #3
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If the fbi comes and questions someone, does that automatically make him an informant?

Who did Turner snitch on?

Who went to jail because of Turner?

What proof does anyone have that Turner took money? Does someone have access to the fbi payroll department records? Or are we to unquestionably believe fbi statements put out by the jew media?

Even if Turner took fbi money, who's to say he wasn't playing them for suckers?

What solid proof does anyone have that Turner is not a WN war casualty for speaking out against the jew?

Why are there so many anonymous WN forum posters bashing Turner without a shead of credible evidence against him?

Just asking.

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I'm inclined to side with you, the only time the bureau puts out this garbage is to try to have an enemy killed.

If there is anything solid out there, I'd like to hear it too.
 
Old October 5th, 2012 #4
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I'm inclined to side with you, the only time the bureau puts out this garbage is to try to have an enemy killed.

If there is anything solid out there, I'd like to hear it too.
Ferd, go play with your waterspouts.
 
Old October 5th, 2012 #5
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Ferd, go play with your waterspouts.
Careful. Dude has Claymores deployed.

Check my signature. He's already marked me for death. I was relatively young, too.

Time to crack a beer, turn on some Terry Jacks and stare out the window.
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Old October 5th, 2012 #6
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Turner himself claims to have been an informant. There's no debate.
Cite this evidence.

Who the fuck are you to decide if there's no debate?

That's the jewiest thing I've ever read on this forum in almost ten years.

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Old October 5th, 2012 #7
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Fred, go play with your waterspouts.
Eat shit, Lennie in Langley, all those dogs can't be wrong.
 
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What proof does anyone have that Turner took money? Does someone have access to the fbi payroll department records? Or are we to unquestionably believe fbi statements put out by the jew media?
Turner himself claims to have been an informant. There's no debate.

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Turner himself claims to have been an informant.
I understood this to be the case as well.
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Old October 5th, 2012 #10
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If the fbi comes and questions someone, does that automatically make him an informant?

Who did Turner snitch on?

Who went to jail because of Turner?

What proof does anyone have that Turner took money? Does someone have access to the fbi payroll department records? Or are we to unquestionably believe fbi statements put out by the jew media?

Even if Turner took fbi money, who's to say he wasn't playing them for suckers?

What solid proof does anyone have that Turner is not a WN war casualty for speaking out against the jew?

Why are there so many anonymous WN forum posters bashing Turner without a shead of credible evidence against him?

Just asking.

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Brutus, you always was the deep thinker. You ask interesting questions here.

Frankly, I'm no expert on the Turner case.

Back in the 80s I met with SBI agents and I placed one (Joe Momier) on our mailing list to receive our monthly newspaper which gave times, dates, and locations of all our party gatherings, as well as the names of chapter leaders who hosted the gathering. Momier visited my home several times and spoke with me and with other party members. He attended most gatherings, both public and those held on private property, such as my farm. Therefore, one could rightly call me a government informant for willingly cooperating with him.

However, all party members knew this and also my reasons for having this open policy, which was to prove to the cops and the media, that we had nothing to hide.

Turner, OTOH, kept his cooperation secret from his followers. And unlike us, he cooperated with the feds. We cooperated only with state and local cops.

Who btw, was harmed in any way, by Turner's covert cooperation with the feds ??? Anyone at all ??
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Old January 30th, 2014 #11
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What solid proof does anyone have that Turner is not a WN war casualty for speaking out against the jew?
Were you paying attention to the case? Frankly, wasn't it OBVIOUS by Turner's attempts to rabble rouse?
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I' have no time to read through all this shit, but if Hal was an informant, then why was he convicted? Riddle me that one.
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Old January 30th, 2014 #13
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I' have no time to read through all this shit, but if Hal was an informant, then why was he convicted? Riddle me that one.
Because even informants have to abide by the law. Just because someone is on the payroll of the FBI, they still have to follow the rules of law. It's come up many times, and the Supreme Court has settled the issue.

And, on the subject, I hate the Wikipedia article on HT. They'd make you think he was a WN'ist, not a agent provocateur. This quote from Hal Turner's own lawyer needs to be mentioned as often as possible:

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My client was trained by the FBI as an agent provocateur. He was told where the line was — what he could say. His job was basically to publish information which would cause other parties to act in a manner which would lead to their arrest
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Michael A. Orozco, Turner's lawyer said, "I don't think he was a racist. He was doing a lot of those things at the behest of the FBI.”[34]
 
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Michael A. Orozco, Turner's lawyer said, "I don't think he was a racist. He was doing a lot of those things at the behest of the FBI.”
I wouldn't put much stock in a tentative statement like that ("I don't think ...") from a lawyer about his client.

Hal Turner was a huge fan of Bob Grant and wanted to be like Bob Grant. What do you think Bob Grant's appeal was? In large part, racism. Of course Hal Turner was racist -- a conservative racist who admired the police.
 
Old January 31st, 2014 #15
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I' have no time to read through all this shit, but if Hal was an informant, then why was he convicted? Riddle me that one.
So you're too lazy to read but have questions that you want answered.

That makes sense.
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Halbert was no longer useful to the FBI, but he thought he was, so he continued doing questionable things that could get him locked up.
 
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