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Old July 21st, 2014 #1
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Default Ice Cube: Cave Bitch (and the pro-White message - intended or not)

I ran across this Youtube video of an Ice Cube song shared at a white "racial" site/ blog somewhere some time back and instead of the whites picking up on the core message they hone in on the coarse language and insults to white women. Complaints of him being a racist and anti-White were all I read. So what that he's racist? So what that he thinks Whites are cave dwelling devils? SO WHAT? That's not the core message of the damned lyrics. Blacks have been rapping shit like that since the 80's , it is nothing new.

Since this particular video of the song has blown up in view count recently and many of the viewers/commenters look to be pissed off whites -- they have more than likely been guided to this video by racial sites aimed at Whites. For that reason I decided to create a thread about this here on VNN so that perhaps this post will pop up on search engines if/when Whites -- who either don't get it , or are being duped by shysters and white conservatard MLK pusher types -- search for opinions and discussions about this songs lyrics , they will see a different take on this songs meaning.

This lack of racial understanding is bigger among Whites than just this song. If this was all of it I would never bother to do this. But I see this same mentality in Whites who go ape shit about the old Black Panthers (for example). But they rarely go into just how vicious , malicious MLK (and that line of ilk) were ..are. Are they less aware and less offended because he didn't use coarse blunt language? He and his kind were and are many ... many times more malicious than an out spoken Black Panther.

Black Panthers were separatists (at least until they were infiltrated, I'm sure). An actual pro-White who gets the racial element would have a hell of a lot more in common with them , racially ideologically , than they ever would have in common with an integrationist or miscegenationist - of any race. Who gives a shit that they said nasty things about Whites? So What? Do these Whites want blacks to loooove them? They seem to have swallowed more of the anti-racialist line than they know.


This song is hostile to Whites (as is practically all rap songs speaking about Whites in some form are) but it is not anti-White --- Unless you somehow think a black rapper not wanting to fuck White women is anti-White. Any so called "pro-White" white man who would get offended by a black man not wanting to fuck white women is not pro-White. I would say they aren't even racially aware. Who would be against an anti-miscegenation message -- besides race mixers, mongrels and actual anti-Whites who wish to miscegenate Whites out of existence?


If this thread would be better off in another section of the forum , please move it.


Here are the lyrics with my highlights:

[into from Khalid Muhammed]: Give me a black goddess sister I can't resist her. No stringy haired, blonde haired, blue eyed, pale skinned, buttermilk complexion. Grafted, recessive, depressive, ironing board backside straight up and straight down. No frills, no thrills, Miss six o'clock, subject to have the itch, mutanoid, caucazoid, white cave bitch... [ note : If he had stuck to attacking evil Whitey and hadn't stepped on the toes of the kosher ones he probably would've been given a professorship at a college ]


[Ice Cube]: Ease back white bitch, I don't play that Just because I got on my L.A. hat -- Stalkin' walking in my big black boots Is my jingle, now you want Mandingo -- Big, black and handsome I should hold your devil ass for ransome Sorta like Patty Hearst, but I burst first bitch And you know what's worse -- I'm coming from the land where the choppers roam So fuck you bitch and your Coppertone , Stringy hair , no derriere , frontin' and fakin' with your silicone pair -- Do I wanna fuck? Not hardly , That's kinda like Barbie fuckin' Bob Marley , It ain't gonna happen, I keep rappin' , Muthafuck Tennille, but see I'm the Captain of this ship And I'm true to the game Ya'll, all look the same Standin' by my backstage do, hopin' I will switch , Spread out you little cave bitch


Why every time we get famous , You wanna play us like Andy n' Amos? The devil sent you to try and tame us , But you can't tame me, with no bitch named Amy , Lookin' for the dark meat , But ho , I ain't tryin' to go out like Barkely [ note: Charles Barkley went with white women. ] Cuz everytime I turn on the TV I see several brothers with she-devils , Smilin cuz you out on a date But sooner or later, the bitch'll yell rape , Soon as daddy found out you a jigaboo , He'll kill like he did Emmitt Till , Yeah, he tried to kick bass But the bitch probably threw it in his face , Southern Bell ain't nothin' but a trick , Nasty as hell, stanky little cave bitch

Now don't think that I hate you Cuz I won't date you, bitch I gotta stay true , You can be a fan, but don't expand And try to get my dick in your hand , You better run to the minute man Pale as snow, [ note: There's the money shot -- telling White women to go to White Men. This is directly pro-White ] so act like ya know , Cuz if I slap it, flip it, and rub it like that It gotta be black Plus your ass too flat I need a butt big enough it can clap Rat-a-tat-tat You can't get mine ho I'd rather fuck an albino Atleast I know she's comin' from the Nubian And not the Ku Klux Klan that you be in [ rut roh , he doesn't buy into the 'race is only skin deep' mantra -- how many times have I seen an anti-White post pictures of black albinos and attempt to claim that they are the same as a Swede simply because they lack melanin ] And I don't give a fuck if your family is rich You're still a little cave bitch


 
Old July 22nd, 2014 #2
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Pro white?
You mean extremely degrading to white women treating them like pieces of meat?
Just because he said go to white men doesn't mean he is pro white. He is trying to make our race look pathetic/worthless.

Do you really think they actually want a black women?
We all know niggers want our white wimmen because they are superior in every way..
Black girls have no beauty what so ever.
 
Old July 22nd, 2014 #3
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Oh puke. That's about the most anti-White Ice Coon and his sub-zero IQ ever got.
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Old July 22nd, 2014 #4
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Ironically it is the fact the likes of this sub human turd rarely turns down ignorant White rap sluts. Kind of limits the context of his belligerent attempt at music.... beyond a baboon hitting a stick on a log while uttering some MoMo scat throwing howler monkey sounds.
 
Old July 24th, 2014 #5
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Lol that song's just funny as shit.

He's "Ice Cube", what more do you want from him? A cover of Horst Wessel Lied?
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Old August 8th, 2014 #6
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I don't believe the OP was anything but a lame troll. BUT, hear me out on this one...

Who cares if a negro is saying negative things about White women in his songs?

Would you prefer YET ANOTHER race-mixing screed? The positives of this song: discouraging misguided young whores from race-mixing, far outweigh the negatives, which are obvious.

As for the NoI, as I've said before, they're about the most positive nigger organisation I can think of.

Encouraging niggers not to be useless animals, strongly discouraging race-mixing, emphasising African culture (such as it is) for niggers as being appropriate and natural ... I don't have too much of a problem with their message at all.

(As for the untalented 'singer' Ice Cube, I don't believe he has a history of race-mixing himself, and from my understanding, is married to a negress and has several little niglets.)

Yeah, all that 'Kill Whitey' stuff is dumb, but let's face it: WE hate THEM. They're our enemies, and we theirs. We don't want a bar of them, and they don't want a bar of us. That much is obvious. Would you prefer deception and fake friendliness from your enemy?

Not me.

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You mean extremely degrading to white women treating them like pieces of meat?
You need to learn how to read, and what idioms mean. Treating someone like a piece of meat means that they are seen as a sexual object. This song is anything but treating white women like pieces of meat. Quite the opposite.
 
Old August 13th, 2014 #7
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I don't believe the OP was anything but a lame troll. BUT, hear me out on this one...

Who cares if a negro is saying negative things about White women in his songs?

Would you prefer YET ANOTHER race-mixing screed? The positives of this song: discouraging misguided young whores from race-mixing, far outweigh the negatives, which are obvious.

As for the NoI, as I've said before, they're about the most positive nigger organisation I can think of.

Encouraging niggers not to be useless animals, strongly discouraging race-mixing, emphasising African culture (such as it is) for niggers as being appropriate and natural ... I don't have too much of a problem with their message at all.

(As for the untalented 'singer' Ice Cube, I don't believe he has a history of race-mixing himself, and from my understanding, is married to a negress and has several little niglets.)

Yeah, all that 'Kill Whitey' stuff is dumb, but let's face it: WE hate THEM. They're our enemies, and we theirs. We don't want a bar of them, and they don't want a bar of us. That much is obvious. Would you prefer deception and fake friendliness from your enemy?

Not me.



You need to learn how to read, and what idioms mean. Treating someone like a piece of meat means that they are seen as a sexual object. This song is anything but treating white women like pieces of meat. Quite the opposite.

I wasn't trolling but understand why it w/could be taken as such by this (1) being a first post (2) by a new poster that (3) takes a look at the underlying meaning/message in a generally hostile rap song about white women.

Agree with your post.

I don't think my point can be re-expressed without repeating what I've already said in the OP. I'll just say the inability of supposed racially aware whites to see the underlying message in this song was to me like a tiny tiny microcasm of a much larger problem whites have in the macrocasm of race and politics.

What I hear in this rap is an anti-miscegenation message that tells white women to go be with their own kind -- White men. All of the derogatory jabs are just noise.

I'm not interested in black men bedding white women. So why would it bother me that a message goes against black men bedding white women? Only those interested in black men bedding white women would have a problem with it.
 
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Alas the the height of nigger music is talking pornographic nonesense. It's as if their lower intelligence prevents them from rising to any higher aspirations beyond basic animalistic urges. Thank God for the White races of planet Earth, whom aspired to the heavens walked on the moon and tamed the vast wilderness of our planet. Any White woman whom so much as THINKS about having sex with a member of the primitive nigger species is ashamed and ugly unaware. The same thing goes for these pathetic White men I see walking around with atrocious smelling negress cow beasts on their arm.
 
Old August 13th, 2014 #9
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I really don't see why a WN who believes is winning, on our own efforts, and that cannot be overstated for its relevance, can see anything overly positive, certainly anything profound, in this stupid song.

This is a non-starter.

Yeah he seems annoyed that the Jew media has sent some White race traitors his way, and he seems annoyed there are some traditionally-minded and to some degree racially conscious Whites (their fathers) who would have a problem with that. So what, how is he pro-White, how is the song pro-White?


Your "money shot" as you so eloquently put it, using some Jewish inspired porno term , directs White women to White men, so what? He also makes the claim that White men are "pale minute men" (referring to an alleged lack of sexual stamina). He believes White men are less than Black men, inferior. How is this pro-White, oh he wants Whites to stay among their own right? Again I say, so what?

How about White men who aren't looking for Blacks to somehow fight their battles and say the things White men should be saying, tell White women that they should stay with their men because they are on the average more upstanding, will take care of the children they produce with that female, will not leave them for drug dealing, "ballin", or whatever other nonsense niggers routinely engage in? How about we tell them that we are superior sexually to the ape-man, huh?

I am all for alternatives views and exploring things, ways of tackling the enemy that are outside the box, even taking on allies who are not cut from the cloth most of our allies are from - but I vehemently stand against the idea that we have to accept "table scraps" and what I mean by that is that we are not doing ourselves any good by trying to decipher some sort of benefit or good, a hidden ally or friend out of this sort of thing.

There are nationalist Blacks sure, just because they are nationalist doesn't mean we are to want them to fight our battles or say the things we should be saying, and openly and without any "rap" or "code" - stuff just needs to be said out loud, no beats or other entertainment, it should be the focus, no other hoopla needed.

We don't need to look to statements like this, raps whatever, to justify our stands, FUCK NO, our stands and ideals stand up on their own, they don't need to be affirmed by Black rappers, or some other non-White. Our ideals and beliefs stand up on their own, when championed by OUR OWN, we are proven correct on a daily basis, we don't need any goddamn approval from anyone.

Not trying to be overly harsh but the mindset you are suggesting we have is one where we look to others for approval, look to justify the legitimacy of our stands by comparing them to "stands" taken in a rap diddy. Not needed.

Oh yeah and before I forget, if this is something to get "excited" over where is there any mention about the Jew in this song? Maybe if he mentioned something about the Jews promoting race mixing then I would perhaps change my assessment.

How about the message in this brief little song, nothing fancy, just a statement of what has to happen for us to be free. Taking the Sword of Defiance as a White man is something far from trying to find meaning in the babbling of a Black rapper, one who is taking pot shots at Whites as he supposedly sounds off a message we should take heart in.

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Old August 13th, 2014 #10
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before I forget, if this is something to get "excited" over where is there any mention about the Jew in this song? Maybe if he mentioned something about the Jews promoting race mixing then I would perhaps change my assessment.
I believe the NoI are about the only negroes who did, and do, talk about that.
 
Old August 14th, 2014 #11
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Robert Ransdell I wasn't meaning that this song is something to be excited over and in no way did I mean that whites need to look outside for approval. I also didn't state that Ice Cube was pro-white , only that these lyrics contain a pro-white message , "intended or not" (most likely not , so quite probably inadvertently) by being against black man/white woman race mixing.

The point in posting this wasn't even this rap in particular it was the fact that in my perception too many whites who claim to be racially aware[*] seem to be in possession of the same mentality we see in hyper sensitive , "anti-racist" , clueless and brainwashed white liberals.

If I saw these whites have the same reaction to MLK and any of the other Jew tools that are absolutely malicious that promote the exact opposite -- integration, assimilation , race mixing -- I wouldn't think they are lacking an understanding of the problem. But I don't. Not outside of sphere's like here. And sphere's like here are not the mainstream.

But maybe it's a good thing that they seem to only hear the derogatory comments about their women not the anti-race mixing message , even if the white women being spoken of are , or potential , race mixers. Maybe I was looking at it the wrong way or being too critical of them in my mind. Maybe this is a spark showing itself. If not then I can just hope that a spark will happen soon enough.

So if I over reacted and conflated these whites lack of discernment (imo) in not seeing passed slurs and unpleasantries for a message that certainly can be construed by some of possessing , even if inadvertently , a pro-White (in the practical sense) message and took it to be under an umbrella of things not really related -- then I'll be glad I only posted it here.

Sort of regret starting this thread .. but it's done now. I chose the opposing views section to have this placed in. It might have been sent there anyway .. but I put it here to keep it out of the main section since it really is not very important and I simply wanted it somewhere on an informative site that might possibly be ran across by any whites searching about this title.


For clarification I wouldn't ever think that a White who understands that the MLK type bullshit is worse (by a magnitude and for several reasons) than any non-white that bluntly opposes Whites and/or states outright their desire to separate from , not mate with is lacking an understanding. I wouldn't for example think Linder had a lack of understanding if he dismissed *insert Black Nationalist , Separatist or Supremacist person/group here* for being stupid niggers or inherently anti-white .. because I know he gets it. I know (at least from what I've seen/listened to) that he fundamentally gets the race issue and most importantly sees through rhetoric of maliciousness that attempts to present itself as not malicious by wrapping itself in supposed warm and fuzzies. I am incapable of even seeing those warm and fuzzies -- so it is hard for me to relate to what so many whites seem to see. I see the meat and it is entirely malicious. That it is or at least presented with glossy terms in unharsh phrase only increases the maliciousness of it -- because it increases the effectiveness of the deceit.



Might as well leave some opinions before I sign out. I've been reading here (among several other places) a while and never thought I'd post a damned thing. Yapping the mouth is counter productive to learning , at least it is for me. Plus I do not have much to contribute anyway. I think White Men need to handle this amongst themselves. White women should pretty much deal with being supportive of White Men (large W , large M) in everyday life. I don't mean keeping them in tea and cookies but defending them to others - especially when someone tells lies and talks down about them when none are around or when the man isn't capable of doing so. Tact and blunt short simple honesty can go a long way -- at least with non innately-malicious persons.

For the white women who have swallowed this anti-White man shit hook line and sinker (but their percentage is not no where near as high as many on the internet seem to think or that the medias would have people think -- indeed they are the minority) -- these women are ungrateful and selfish for having the audacity to attack the only innately creative , competent and just men on this planet. I understand that women are the materialist of the sexes. It is just another lie (turning the truth on its head) that women are the "romantic" or "spiritual" ones. Women are much more materialist than men. They must be for reproductive purposes and protecting their children and making sure they have a safe and stable environment. That's why it is so astounding to me that white women of seemingly good stock (thanks to White Men!) could even allow themselves to be duped into attacking the only ones who have and ever will be able to give them such comfortable secure stable environments and good genetic offspring. But try to remember they are aren't the majority. Don't let medias or snooty liberal spoiled brats make you think any where near the majority of white women are anti-White femistasi assholes.



[*] racially aware to me means aware of a genetic - not cultural, not religious and not even really political - but a literal racial war being waged against White Men. White Men are being targeted because ONLY White Men carry the "seed" of the White race. It is the man, not the woman that calls the line of descent for male offspring. "The race is destroyed through the woman" but it is not because she carries something special in herself , it is because the seed of the race (whatever that race may be) is distributed through her by the man. If a white woman and a non-white man produce a son and that son produces a son with a white woman .. and that son produces a son with a white woman (ad infinitum) that male line will not and cannot EVER produce a White Man because that male line is not a White male line. Jewish men bred and breed with European women even though their religion and tradition supposedly is bound on the mother having to be Jewish in order for the children (male or female) to be Jews. Perhaps this is just another form of their parasitism and/or chameleonism .. and/or subterfuge. Why would it be considered outlandish to think a hostile people would attempt to spread their seed while attacking another people? Isn't that what conquerors have primarily done? Stop the enemy male from producing sons by directly killing the males , or sterilizing/castrating them while you , the conquering male , impregnate the women of the target people/tribe -- therefore attempting to turn them into you?
 
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I'm not interested in hearing niggers talk about White women at all, good or bad. Just keep them out of your nonexistent vocabularies.
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