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Old May 21st, 2012 #21
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These leftist storm troopers are starting by attacking a group for whom few will have sympathy—neo-Nazis
about 20 lefty cunts attacking about the same number of "Nazis" as well as a dining room full of regular patrons and no one lifted a finger to fight back? I don't get it.
I try to never come across on the internet as some sort of bad-ass but even had I been just some regular joe enjoying a French-dip and quaffing a cold one I would have shoved at least one of those sorry sonavabitches into the hurt locker.
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If past experience is any guide, these punks will walk. The enemy is so sure this is the case they have openly boasted about it on enemy websites.

I guess this is what it takes before the blight wing understand this isn't a game anymore. No more eat, meet and retreat. Why they even held this in Chicago is beyond me.
 
Old May 21st, 2012 #23
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Remember: Strict legality must be maintained at all times. To defend yourself is pro-thuggery and futile idiocy. Next time, wear thick vests and helmets so it won't hurt as bad.

The system will deal with this injustice. Why, just ask Billy Roper about the justice he received from the system when he was attacked at the German Embassy protest.
Don't forget, Grady, that all these beautiful White souls can be made to see the light and brought to our side. We'll set up a debate: I'll bring my notecards, and they'll bring their baseball bats and knives. Don't you dare make any assumption otherwise regarding the inner wholesomeness and innocence of their characters, you race traitor you!
 
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They got walloped': Masked group attacks alleged white supremacists in Illinois restaurant
By Sevil Omer, msnbc.com

A group of masked radicals is accused of brutally attacking alleged white supremacists eating lunch at a restaurant in a suburb of Chicago, and the town’s mayor is calling the melee a bizarre and bloody spillover of the NATO Summit.

Tinley Park Mayor Edward J. Zabrocki said as many as 18 people wearing masks and black hoods stormed into the Ashford House in Tinley Park on Saturday, pummeling a group of alleged white supremacists who had gathered at the Irish-American eatery known for its corned beef and bacon.


Zabrocki said he believed the group of assailants had come into town from Indiana to participate in the protests at the NATO Summit, but instead headed to his town to pick a fight. Tinley Park is about 30 miles southwest of Chicago.

“This was a real riot,” Zabrocki told msnbc.com on Monday. “These guys started beating the crap out of the other group. A lot of tables were knocked over, dishes were broken and there was food all over the walls. It was terrible. It was a mess.”

Zabrocki said five members of the group were arrested; 13 others were still being sought.

According to the Chicago Tribune, Tinley Park Police Chief Steve Neubauer said five men were charged with aggravated battery, mob action and criminal damage to property. The group included three brothers, Jason W. Sutherlin, 33, of Gosport, Ind.; Cody Lee Edward Sutherlin, 23, of Bloomington, Ind.; and Dylan James Sutherlin, 20, also of of Bloomington. Alex R. Stuck, 22, of Bloomington, and James S. Tucker, 26, of Spencer, Ind., were also charged, the Tribune reported.

Nine people were injured and three people were hospitalized, Zabrocki said. He said victims' conditions had improved since the attacks.

The mayor said he believed the victims had ties to white supremacist groups, but he could not confirm their affiliation.

Zabrocki said the Anti-Racist Action, an organization that says it protests "fascist and neo-Nazi activities," claimed responsibility and posted its reasoning on its website.

According to the Anti-Racist Action website:

“On Saturday, May 19th a group of 30 anti-fascists descended upon Ashford House restaurant in the Chicago suburb of Tinley Park where the 5th annual White Nationalist Economic Summit and Illinois White Nationalist Meet-and-Greet was taking place. The White Nationalists were targeted inside the restaurant and physically attacked, causing several injuries and completely shutting down their meeting.”

Zabrocki said city and police officials had been on alert on Saturday and Sunday because of demonstrations at the NATO Summit in Chicago. He said quick action by police helped law enforcement collar at least five of the suspects.

“We believe that the same group of attackers had been in town for the summit and if they had not been in town, they wouldn't have found this group,” he said.

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Michael Winston, owner of the Ashford House, said the group that was attacked had made a reservation for up to 20, saying they were from an Irish heritage association.

"We had no idea who these people were," Winston said. "We don’t ask for people’s political stuff when they come in the door. Did they look like white supremacists? One or two did, but just because they have a shaved head doesn’t mean they’re a skinhead, right? I know a lot of good-looking guys who have their heads shaved and they aren’t skinheads or white supremacists. And the group that stormed in, it was too fast and too late. It took us by surprise.

“The other group marched into the restaurant, all were in hooded sweatshirts,” Winston told msnbc.com. “Each had a chair leg, baton or a bat. They came in and went straight to a table of white guys and whoever stood up or got in the way, they got walloped.”

He said business inside Ashford House has taken a blow from the weekend violence.

"It was a ghost town in here on Sunday,” Winston said. He said customers have been afraid to come in and others have canceled their reservations. He said a few loyal patrons have stopped by to see if everything was OK.
 
Old May 21st, 2012 #25
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From White Reference, a pretty reliable source.

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The Chicago Tribune reports that two members of the Illinois European Heritage Association were also arrested. Steven Eugene Speers, 33, of Grand Forks, ND, was wanted on a warrant from Dallas County, TX, for possession of child pornography, while Francis John Gilroy Jr., 65, of West Palm Beach, FL, is charged with unlawful possession of weapons by a felon.
http://whitereference.blogspot.com/2...m-indiana.html

You're kidding me, right? Good grief.
 
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BTW, none of those fine outstanding male specimens look like jews to me. According to Hansel and Maxetel however, they are just misguided whites who can be turned around with the right combination of reason and logic. Under no circumstances should they have their throats cut, as we would then be depleting the white gene pool. Seriously.
 
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From White Reference, a pretty reliable source.



http://whitereference.blogspot.com/2...m-indiana.html

You're kidding me, right? Good grief.
Oh, of course they're going to attempt to paint the attacked as Criminal Anti-Semitic Racist Nazi Bastids Who Had It Coming......
 
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Oh, of course they're going to attempt to paint the attacked as Criminal Anti-Semitic Racist Nazi Bastids Who Had It Coming......
True, the enemy media will jump on anything to make it look like that. We really don't know the situation with those two, for all we know those could be bogus charges. I think the time to start up a security company with the ability to vet people and identify infiltrators might be in order at this stage of the game. Wishful thinking, I guess.

I just hope they go easy on those Tucker boys. After all, we could be related and I wouldn't want any of my kin to suffer any consequences for their actions. They may be misguided but they ARE white, and that's the most important thing.
 
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I knew of several of the people there, and yes, there were some women. I have read that two of the males were sitting with their backs to the entrance, and were hit from behind (back of the heads) with batons immediately taking them out of the fight. From there, it is described as chaos until one of the Antifa scum was knocked shitless by a chair. At that point, the attackers grabbed their unconscious cohort and hauled ass out of there. I haven't read anything that indicates how long the confrontation lasted, but I couldn't imagine it was very long.

There are so many conflicting stories in the MSM about this right now, but one thing is for sure, this hopefully serves as a wakeup call not only for WN's who hold meetings, but whites in general about who the real violent fascists are.

Luckily, nobody was hurt seriously, one of the guys hit in the back of the head required 8 staples in his noggin, and I believe the other guy took a couple as well.
 
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Tinley Park Attack: Anarcho-Tyranny In America
By James Fulford on May 21, 2012 at 11:53pm

On Saturday, a gang of self-proclaimed “anti-racist” thugs burst into a Tinley Park, Illinois restaurant, where they alleged some “white supremacists” were having a dinner, and attacked them with hammers, iron bars and batons. Several people were injured (including Mike Winston, the restaurant manager, who tried to defend his patrons). The website antiracistaction.org is openly boasting about this.

When I blogged about this gang attack, I mentioned that this kind of thing can happen to any conservative. But, in what I supposed must be called a reversal of Martin Niemoller’s famous “first they came...” statement, the first targets for this kind of aggression are anyone who’s identified (by the attackers) with Nazis, fascists, racists etc.

The controversial British historian David Irving has been a big target for the anti-fascist crowd. Back in 2000, there was an attack on an appearance by him in the Chicago area:

CHICAGO ANTI-FASCISTS DISRUPT APPEARANCE BY DAVID IRVING
Anti-Fa Info Bulletin, Number 268, September 2000

ON Tuesday, September 19, [2000] the internationally despised Holocaust denier and historical revisionist David Irving was scheduled to speak at a secret meeting in Chicago regarding "Truth in History."

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At the same time, a group of masked anti-fascists stormed into the restaurant through the rear kitchen entrance. This militant action further disrupted Irving's presentation, as tables were knocked over, food was thrown and Irving's literature ripped and scattered. Irving himself was struck with a chair! [More]

Apparently, no one was arrested.

On November 23, 2009 a similar gang tried invading another Chicago-area David Irving dinner. But this time Irving’s friends had anticipated an attack, laid a police trap, and had five of them arrested. Irving’s website reported:




Eight masked thugs dressed in black invaded the restaurant on November 24, 2009, and ran slap into a police ambush prepared by Mr Irving's staff. Five were captured and held all night at Norridge Police station, where they refused initially to provide identity details -- it now becomes apparent why.

[December 8, 2009]

Jeremy Hammond, aside from his hobby of assaulting people with whom he disagrees, is a criminal hacker. He subsequently went to jail for hacking into the private intelligence service Stratfor. And he’s done a lot of other hacking—including, according to Irving, wrecking Irving’s own website.

From Wikipedia’s entry on Hammond:

On March 25, 2010, Hammond was sentenced to four days in the Cook County Department of Corrections, for taking part in a confrontation with the controversial Holocaust writer David Irving. Five Chicago residents, Hammond included, pleaded guilty to one count each of disorderly conduct on March 24, 2010 at Rolling Meadows Court House before Judge Edward Pietrucha.[28][31] Wearing black masks, the five had stormed the Edelweiss restaurant in Norridge, Illinois and "threw glasses and kicked over chairs" to drive out Irving's guests[32] during which another restaurant patron was struck by a bottle.[33]

So Hammond was not in the flashmob at Tinley Park because he’s physically in jail, but for hacking—not for his multiple physical attacks. [Chicago man in Anonymous hacking case biding time in jail by reading - Chicago Sun-Times, May 14, 2012]

Irving noted on March 24, 2010 (scroll down) that the attackers had been “let off with slaps on the wrist.”

The slaps amounted to

•Probation, except for Hammond was already on “supervised release” at the time of the gang attack, and was sentenced to five actual days in jail
•Community service, about five days worth.

There is a tactic in law enforcement called “exemplary sentencing.” The idea is that harsh sentences send a message. For example, the British Establishment has long congratulated itself that the long jail terms imposed on whites involved in the 1958 Notting Hill Riots crushed British working class resistance to Third World immigration. Nothing like that happened in 2011, when a different set of people rioted in England.

“Exemplary sentencing” is not what happened to the Chicago “anti-fascists” who attacked Irving.

That’s why they’ve done it again.

Now look at this:

Source: Group beaten at Tinley Park restaurant were white supremacists

BY JANET LUNDQUIST AND NATASHA KORECKI Sun-Times Media, May 20, 2012 7:07PM

A law enforcement source Sunday said the group beaten at a Tinley Park restaurant Saturday was made up of white supremacists, and those who assaulted them were protesters attacking their beliefs. [More]

Edith Efron noted as long ago as 1971 in her book The News Twisters the tendency of the media to refer to physical attacks on conservatives as “protests.” “Hecklers Throw Empty Drink Cans At Wallace” was one of the headlines she pointed to, noting that throwing things at people is not the same as heckling.

A more impartial headline is this one, from a competitor:

•Tinley Park Group Beaten Over Beliefs: Source, NBC Chicago - ‎13 hours ago‎
Fox News weighed in with

•Anti-racist group claims credit for hammer attack at Illinois restaurant FOX 4 News - ‎May 20, 2012‎
“Claims credit”?

Five of the Tinley Park attackers have now been charged—and also two of their victims. The victims were not charged with maliciously defending themselves, but with unrelated offences. One was arrested on an outstanding child pornography warrant, another for being a “felon in possession of a weapon.” [Charges filed against seven in Tinley Park restaurant attack, Myfox Chicago, May 21, 2012]

These charges may be true, although if the police really don’t like you, then anything they find in computer is illegal pornography, and anything they find in your pocket is a weapon.

If the Chicagoland police can’t (or wont) protect unpopular people from attacks like this, then we have what the late Sam Francis called “anarcho-tyranny”—the state of affairs where the police can’t possibly do anything about burglary, armed robbery etc., but they can keep homeowners and store clerks from being armed, and charge them with murder when they defend themselves.

(Instapundit still insists that someone should have shot the attackers in Tinley Park, but I’m pretty sure that would lead to criminal charges against the victims who fought back.)

The Leftist Nicaraguan government in the Eighties used to have government-controlled youth mobs called turbas divinas that would attack people who resisted the government. The real Fascisti of Italy in the Thirties did this too.

When there was white minority rule in the Jim Crow South, the Ku Klux Klan was unlikely to get in trouble with the authorities.

These anti-racist people are the same thing.

And they’re Obama’s kind of people. Except for their notable pallor (these "anti-fascists" are as white as the Tea Party and their kindred Occupy Wall Street types) they’re exactly the type of “community” that “community” organizers organize.

They’d be as happy, if organized in a sufficiently large community, to tear into a Republican Convention as a Nazi gathering. They really don’t see any difference. Remember all the Bush=Hitler signs?

Canadian blogger Kathy Shaidle points out that being a conservative requires Ann Coulter "to take the stage with bodyguards" and Glenn Beck "to wear a bullet proof vest and carry a handgun."

Tom Tancredo also has a bullet-proof vest because of many specific, serious, threats against his person.

Ann Coulter is not paranoid—she has a well-founded fear that if you're a conservative speaker, people will mount the stage to attack you physically, liberal pundits will cheer them, and the police will do nothing, because all this has already happened to her. See her articles

•It's Only Funny Until Someone Loses A Pie April 13, 2005
•Pies, Lies & Videotape April 20, 2005

If an adorable blonde person like Ann Coulter can’t get justice when she’s attacked, how much chance do neo-Nazis, or anyone who can be called Neo-Nazis, have? (If they’re blonde at all, they’re blonde in entirely the wrong way.)

And if that leads to all dissident meetings being closed down, because restaurants and hotels are afraid of the consequences (as has repeatedly happened to the American Renaissance conferences, with a mysterious lack of reaction from police and press) then “anti-fascism” will have brought real fascism to America.
 
Old May 22nd, 2012 #31
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There is a donation page for the legal defense fund for the Anti-White attackers that were caught by the police:

https://www.wepay.com/donations/4086...#f82e28391be77


Legal Defense Fund for the Tinley Park Five

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Saturday May 19, 2012 Five antifascists were arrested in Tinley Park, a Chicago Suburb, for allegedly assaulting a number of white-supremacist organizers. Help us raise funds for their support and costly legal defense. One of the alleged "victims" was arrested on warrants for child pornography and another was arrested for possessing a firearm as a convicted felon. Bond has been set at nearly $1 Million dollars for the alleged attackers. Legal funds are needed in order to secure adequate legal representation and ensure that their families are taken care of until they are released.

They have collected $515.00 out of their goal of $250,000

There are a few interesting comments being made.......


cenarts (signed in using yahoo)

What will happen if I do not donate? Hammer to the head? Here is the story for those that are uninformed: http://www.examiner.com/​article/​vi...aurant-chicago As for donating... I'll donate my money to the victims of this attack. These Marxist/Anti-Fascists are willing to KILL YOU OR ANYONE else for expressing an opinion. If they were intelligent they would realize that their opinions are controversial as well.... but they want the right to express theirs don't they? They even feel justified in attacking men and women with HAMMERS to the head who hold different beliefs. Who are the Fascists here?

merk_1469 (signed in using yahoo)

Can you provide the links that two were arrested on the charges that you claim? If true, these kids didn't know that at the time. Also, how does this justify attacking 18 others with hammers including the restaraunt staff and other diners? Attacking them because they hold different beliefs? What beliefs must one have in order not to be attacked by these "anti-fascists"? What gives them the right to tell others what they can or cannot believe in?


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I hope the anti-White jackasses enjoy prison. They should come here to Montana to try that crap.. oh wait, we'd shoot them. Pussies.
 
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Yeah? you seem to be in the habit of making faulty assumptions often, don't you?
So it's not commonplace then?
 
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BTW, none of those fine outstanding male specimens look like jews to me. According to Hansel and Maxetel however, they are just misguided whites who can be turned around with the right combination of reason and logic.
You continue to write and argue in a stupid fashion. The above has nothing to do with any of my arguments. Basically, when you can't grasp a point of critique you are frustrated (understandable) and just try to rewrite it in a low-brow manner, creating a straw-man argument which is so utterly stupid that you feel equipped enough to attack it. Go ahead Tucky, it's your own created argument you are arguing against, not mine.
 
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You continue to write and argue in a stupid fashion. The above has nothing to do with any of my arguments. Basically, when you can't grasp a point of critique you are frustrated (understandable) and just try to rewrite it in a low-brow manner, creating a straw-man argument which is so utterly stupid that you feel equipped enough to attack it. Go ahead Tucky, it's your own created argument you are arguing against, not mine.
You have a very stupid message, but you dress it all up in wordiness, much like a pimp dresses up in what he thinks is finery, but what's inside is a shit-person. When someone clears off all the fluff of your message, we all discover bullshit at the center of it.

Your message on Brievik comes down to this: He should have been handing out leaflets to get his point across, rather than killing his enemies. That's the core of your message.

This isn't Stormfront, where you get protection from the moderators for voicing your counter-productive pro-kike nonsense. You get called out here. So, on the Breivik page, you spoke of the counter-productivity of violence. I haven't heard you say such a thing here on this thread when it was the so-called "anti-fascists" attacking White Nationalists.
 
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You have a very stupid message
A testament to your understanding, not my arguments.

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but you dress it all up in wordiness
Oh come on?! This is my second language and I'm awful at it, which is why I try to be more to the point while not sounding like a negro saying "amerikwa" and ebonics like so. You think I'm able to dress it up in wordiness? I know it is ment as an insult but it makes me think I'm not as handicapped with the english/americana lingo'isms as I previously thought. Thanks Roy!

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When someone clears off all the fluff of your message, we all discover bullshit at the center of it.
You should put down the mirror before you try the daunting task of understanding a simply given point of argument, that way you'd see more content and less crap.

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Your message on Brievik comes down to this: He should have been handing out leaflets to get his point across, rather than killing his enemies. That's the core of your message.
Shovel those leaflets up your kazoo. It would've been more or at least equally efficient for the benefit of our race's struggle than killing off our indoctrinated sheeple kin like the psycho Breivik did. That's closer to the core of my message. See Roy, that only reaffirms my previous point; i.e you can't get it right even when you try to 'dumbify' it down to your own level of understanding.

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This isn't Stormfront, where you get protection from the moderators for voicing your counter-productive pro-kike nonsense.
I think you're referring to LionOfZion, not I.

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You get called out here.
No, instead of actual on-point rebuttals (sometimes that happens though not often) I get to see posters dance the 'kindergarten frustro-polemics' tango. You can 'call out' from the heavens if you wish Roy, most do not care about your calls either way.

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I haven't heard you say such a thing here on this thread when it was the so-called "anti-fascists" attacking White Nationalists.
Said what? That it was horrible? Listen to me you little pretender racialista, I've been in situations like that and I've fought more antifa freaks et al than you have braincells. And for the sake of clarity, I'm assuming you have more than a score. Now, I do not assume you'd be too scared to fight. On the contrary, I'm sure you are up for it. But please dear footsoldier troggie, leave the thinking and understanding to your betters and... well, get used to the fact that you'll need to learn how to follow their orders and judgement.
 
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Edith Efron noted as long ago as 1971 in her book The News Twisters the tendency of the media to refer to physical attacks on conservatives as “protests.” “Hecklers Throw Empty Drink Cans At Wallace” was one of the headlines she pointed to, noting that throwing things at people is not the same as heckling.
The kikenmedia calls the commie scum "protesters" to give the lemmings the subliminal impression that they're just understandably outraged, upstanding citizens responding a tad too forcefully to the vicious anti-semitic/racist thought-attack on Our Community: "Yeah, well, these kids are a little hot-headed, sure - but starry-eyed idealists usually are. Of course their hearts are in the right place, so just give the scamps the usual wag of the judicial finger, a tap on the wrist and tousle their dreadlocks on their way out of the courtroom."

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And they’re Obama’s kind of people. Except for their notable pallor (these "anti-fascists" are as white as the Tea Party and their kindred Occupy Wall Street types) they’re exactly the type of “community” that “community” organizers organize.
Yes, lawd, Barack luhs him dem kine-a why folk, ummhmm...

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They’d be as happy, if organized in a sufficiently large community, to tear into a Republican Convention as a Nazi gathering. They really don’t see any difference. Remember all the Bush=Hitler signs?
They'd deserve it for not politically fighting the scum and the Lipshitzim who created 'em.

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And if that leads to all dissident meetings being closed down, because restaurants and hotels are afraid of the consequences (as has repeatedly happened to the American Renaissance conferences, with a mysterious lack of reaction from police and press) then “anti-fascism” will have brought real fascism to America.
All "dissident meetings" worthy of the designation are already history, thanks to the kiked kwaps winkin' & noddin' at the nigger-lovers. There's permissible & unpermissible violence. Commie cunts attacking The Big Boys at NATO, G8 & Bilderberg meetings? Fuck that shit. They're the check cutters & pension granters: the People Who Matter. Commie cunts attacking pro-Whites? A-OK. Hell, fun to watch while pretending to respond! Pro-Whites using violence even in self defense? Hate-crime terrorists to be batoned into a Supermax sarcophagus.
 
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Where was the hobo hustler of SF? He was supposed to be there, didn't show. Convenient?
 
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1. Illinois has the most restrictive gun laws in the country.
2. Switchblades are illegal
3. 18 vs 8 (not counting the females) with hammers and bats. Only takes seconds to neutralize the unsuspecting.
4. Not sure but its a good chance that oc/pepper spray is illegal there also
5. Whens the last time you got a bat to the head Sam? Unfortunately I have had the experience. Someone rings your bell with a bat and you loose the ability to do much other than to think "fuck what the hell just hit me".
In regards to number five, not even that. Even if it just a tap you can be seriously fucked up. I've seen it. The guy was, physically, repeating the same moves over and over.

The closest I ever got to getting hit in the head with a bat was when my older cousin was swinging me around and around from my ankles, and, he getting dizzy too, ending having my head "trajectorize", lol, into a tree.

Knocked the fucking snot out of me to say the least.
 
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Where was the hobo hustler of SF? He was supposed to be there, didn't show. Convenient?
What do you mean, "Didn't show."? Were you there, sweetness?

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