Retards - Page 5

psychologicalshock · January 15th, 2009

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Originally Posted by Jett Rink

I've got a tip where Sarah Connor might be.

To be honest I don't think the gain is worth the risk. I am sure if you get past that ice all you'll find is a typical female.

Sean Gruber · January 15th, 2009

The question really is: should the cash, time, energy, future, and lives of healthy people be sacrificed to severely defective people?

Only Christianity confuses people so that they consider that question a moral quandary.

The Nazis had it right. "Life unworthy of life" is what they called it. Not only unworthy of life in its own right, but also unworthy of taking the lives of the healthy.

Makes no difference to me whether it's a fetus or born.

As for elder dysfunction, oldsters lived their lives and either saved money and/or had children for whom they did a lot and who now should reciprocate. An elder is not the same as a petri dish or a two-year-old.

As for "God's plan": God's plan is clearly for the thing to die. Modern medicine is fighting that. Letting nature take its course can't be against God's plan, since God created nature (if you believe in stuff like that).

Holly · January 15th, 2009

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Originally Posted by Jett Rink

Email me, Holly.

Lol, please, there are already enough humor threads here already.
The subject is RETARDS try to stay with it.

cillian · January 15th, 2009

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Originally Posted by Sgruber

The question really is: should the cash, time, energy, future, and lives of healthy people be sacrificed to severely defective people?

If one out of 10,000 people have down syndrome, then what is the expense of testing the other 9,999? More or less than the cost of caring for the 10,000th who may or may not be able to work a menial job and pay for his own expenses? They only live 30 years or so...

Sándor Petőfi · January 15th, 2009

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Originally Posted by Troy Alexander

Van Gogh was never appreciated in his lfetime, but his work exploring the beauty of the mundane was good, and he achieved fame far greater than his rivals posthumously.

Van Gogh was a retard with a paintbrush. Nobody will remember him in a hundred years.

He can't even get the hang of perspective. The he colours in his scribbles like a down syndrome kid with with a crayon and a colouring book. Unless he cheats by painting these flat landscapes so you don't notice it.

Holly · January 16th, 2009

I must agree Van Gogh was pure crap, I think his fame was the result of people wanting a painting done by the nut who chopped off his ear.

Erik Fitzgerald · January 16th, 2009

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Originally Posted by Holly

I must agree Van Gogh was pure crap, I think his fame was the result of people wanting a painting done by the nut who chopped off his ear.

He lobbed off his ear because the prostitute he gave it to looked like his mother. I would heed this caution if I were you, Holly, maybe Jett has this care package waiting for you.

Kind Lampshade Maker · January 16th, 2009

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Originally Posted by Nick Succorso

...Would you also kill your grandparents because they're senile?...

It's been known that children have decided for an old folks home to allow the natural process to speed up a bit, so that the costs of convalescent care doesn't eat up the entire heredity

Jess_Smith · January 16th, 2009

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth Fragale

Holly, you say you'd have no trouble killing your retarded infant, but I think you're underestimating your maternal instinct. From what I've been told, once you have a child the urge to protect the child is so strong nothing can lessen it.

Only a person who is devoid of all emotion could even think of killing a child they have carried for nine months, given birth to and loved.

Wanting to kill your own child because it is far from perfect is nigger behaviour.

Kind Lampshade Maker · January 16th, 2009

I think she meant aborting it at an early stage?

Jess_Smith · January 16th, 2009

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Originally Posted by Kind Lampshade Maker

I think she meant aborting it at an early stage?

I think not.

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Originally Posted by Holly

Oh by the way I do not mean that you would bash in its head or strangle it with a sock, but like they do it for poor dogs you know, in a clinic.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php...17&postcount=3

Holly · January 16th, 2009

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Originally Posted by WhiteNightshade

Only a person who is devoid of all emotion could even think of killing a child they have carried for nine months, given birth to and loved.

Wanting to kill your own child because it is far from perfect is nigger behaviour.

So vote no then and move on, what is the big problem drama queen ?
I can understand a variety of views of this, but calling a teaching of National Socialism "nigger behaviour" is a pretty bad step for you to take here.

The weak & useless should not be cuddled, obviously not.
You are selfish, you say "because it is mine then I will not do it, even though it will be useless and a drag on society, even though it will never contribute anything to race or country" Working citizens will have to sacrifice to pay for its care, their sweat and labor will pay for your precious miscreant to live its useless life drooling in front of the TV, while you clean its shit stains from the floor - And most of all, you will waste your life caring for this useless blob of flesh that will never pass on genes,, you have then failed the prime purpose of life ,,,, And for what ?
Cheap emotion, I can not agree.

Misfits in nature do not survive a day, it should not be any other way with humans.
A mother deer will have no problem walking away from a legless calf, why should you ?

Jess_Smith · January 16th, 2009

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Originally Posted by Holly

I can understand a variety of views of this, but calling a teaching of National Socialism "nigger behaviour" is a pretty bad step for you to take here.

I find it hard to understand how any human being could kill their own child.

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Originally Posted by Holly

you will waste your life caring for this useless blob of flesh that will never pass on genes,

If I created a "useless blob of flesh" then I (not the state) should be responsible for it.

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Originally Posted by Holly

A mother deer will have no problem walking away from a legless calf, why should you ?

Because I am a woman and a mother - with emotions.

Jess_Smith · January 16th, 2009

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Originally Posted by Holly

A mother deer will have no problem walking away from a legless calf, why should you ?

Some animals eat their young.

Would you?

Holly · January 16th, 2009

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Originally Posted by WhiteNightshade

Some animals eat their young.

Would you?

Now you are getting stupid, eating your own kind is not in natures order.
Nature does not evolve repeating rare examples, or then the examples would not be rare in the first place.
Nature repeats what is a sucess, what works the best - I think you can see that savants and crippled do not fit this category.

Where does your charity stop then ?
Is all human life precious ?

Jett Rink · January 16th, 2009

What if you had 4 children and the 5th was retarded. Did you "then fail the prime purpose of life"?

Holly, you either sound like a real psycho or you have absorbed a lot of anti-nazi propaganda about their treatment of the retarded and handicapped.

Jett Rink · January 16th, 2009

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Originally Posted by WhiteNightshade

Some animals eat their young.

Would you?

Holly didn't give a firm no to this question.

George Witzgall · January 16th, 2009

I think the real question you must answer Holly is if you were pregnant and crash landed on a deserted island and gave birth to a retard, would you eat it?

Sándor Petőfi · January 16th, 2009

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Originally Posted by WhiteNightshade

Only a person who is devoid of all emotion could even think of killing a child they have carried for nine months, given birth to and loved.

Only a self-serving moral hypocrite would hang on to a useless suffering retard so as not to offend herself.

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Wanting to kill your own child because it is far from perfect is nigger behaviour.

That explains why it was a common Aryan practice.

IceQueen · January 16th, 2009

It would depend on how severe the retardation. If I gave birth to a child who was so mentally incapacitated it was harming itself, and others, and had no chance of success or improvement in life, I would end it's suffering. You cannot tell me the severely retarded are happy, or have a chance at happiness. Slightly retarded or "slow" is another story. They can potentially go on to lead a normal life with therapy and intervention.

I think castrating them is a bit extreme; they could be allowed to reproduce through non-natural ways if they have viable eggs or sperm which do not contain retard genes. Remember not all retards are born that way, some become that way due to brain damage.

As for the elderly, if they no longer have an acceptable quality of life they too should be allowed to let go. Watching Alzheimer patients mindlessly fold towels all day long, or take care of dolls they think are real babies is utterly pathetic. Would you want your grandparents to live that way? Would you want to live that way?

I feel it should be legal for the individuals effected, and/or their families to let their moral compass guide them to the right time to put a loved one down. There would of course be interviews with medical professionals, and everything would be regulated and controlled. There would be some who would abuse the law, but the minority should not cause the majority to suffer. The minority who abuse their rights will have to face their own conscience, and perhaps answer to a higher power.

I have a hard enough time putting my animals down when it is time. I cannot even imagine having to make that decision with a grandparent or child. With my animals I get to the point where I know it must be done, and I think my people would be similar. Its sad to see couples with severely ill children prevented from having healthy children.

I'm just wondering - is there any legal option for parents with children like Tom to make them wards of the state?

View Poll Results: Should it be legal to put down retard infants and would you do it to your child ?
Yes, it should be legal and I would use it if I had to	37	61.67%
Yes, it should be legal but I doubt if I would have the heart to kill it	7	11.67%
No, neither	16	26.67%
Voters: 60. You may not vote on this poll

January 15th, 2009	#82
Sean Gruber Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,465	The question really is: should the cash, time, energy, future, and lives of healthy people be sacrificed to severely defective people? Only Christianity confuses people so that they consider that question a moral quandary. The Nazis had it right. "Life unworthy of life" is what they called it. Not only unworthy of life in its own right, but also unworthy of taking the lives of the healthy. Makes no difference to me whether it's a fetus or born. As for elder dysfunction, oldsters lived their lives and either saved money and/or had children for whom they did a lot and who now should reciprocate. An elder is not the same as a petri dish or a two-year-old. As for "God's plan": God's plan is clearly for the thing to die. Modern medicine is fighting that. Letting nature take its course can't be against God's plan, since God created nature (if you believe in stuff like that). Last edited by Sean Gruber; January 15th, 2009 at 11:34 PM.

January 16th, 2009	#90
Kind Lampshade Maker The paranormal silent type Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Where you least expect Posts: 8,265	I think she meant aborting it at an early stage? __________________ http://brd24.net

January 16th, 2009	#98
George Witzgall Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 8,645	I think the real question you must answer Holly is if you were pregnant and crash landed on a deserted island and gave birth to a retard, would you eat it? __________________ Blood & Soul Aryan

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January 16th, 2009	#86
Holly Self Bannned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Right now MI USA Posts: 2,297 Blog Entries: 15	I must agree Van Gogh was pure crap, I think his fame was the result of people wanting a painting done by the nut who chopped off his ear.

January 16th, 2009	#96
Jett Rink Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Squaresville Posts: 7,502	What if you had 4 children and the 5th was retarded. Did you "then fail the prime purpose of life"? Holly, you either sound like a real psycho or you have absorbed a lot of anti-nazi propaganda about their treatment of the retarded and handicapped.

January 16th, 2009	#100
IceQueen Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wonderland Posts: 1,317	It would depend on how severe the retardation. If I gave birth to a child who was so mentally incapacitated it was harming itself, and others, and had no chance of success or improvement in life, I would end it's suffering. You cannot tell me the severely retarded are happy, or have a chance at happiness. Slightly retarded or "slow" is another story. They can potentially go on to lead a normal life with therapy and intervention. I think castrating them is a bit extreme; they could be allowed to reproduce through non-natural ways if they have viable eggs or sperm which do not contain retard genes. Remember not all retards are born that way, some become that way due to brain damage. As for the elderly, if they no longer have an acceptable quality of life they too should be allowed to let go. Watching Alzheimer patients mindlessly fold towels all day long, or take care of dolls they think are real babies is utterly pathetic. Would you want your grandparents to live that way? Would you want to live that way? I feel it should be legal for the individuals effected, and/or their families to let their moral compass guide them to the right time to put a loved one down. There would of course be interviews with medical professionals, and everything would be regulated and controlled. There would be some who would abuse the law, but the minority should not cause the majority to suffer. The minority who abuse their rights will have to face their own conscience, and perhaps answer to a higher power. I have a hard enough time putting my animals down when it is time. I cannot even imagine having to make that decision with a grandparent or child. With my animals I get to the point where I know it must be done, and I think my people would be similar. Its sad to see couples with severely ill children prevented from having healthy children. I'm just wondering - is there any legal option for parents with children like Tom to make them wards of the state?