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The JOG sure didn't laugh at Craig. The JOG feared him enough to frame him and throw him into a cage. But bottom line: And like I said, no matter what mistakes Craig made, all those mistakes are far out weighed by the tens of thousands of gentiles who visited at least one WN website, thanks to Craig's ND activisms and the resulting media coverages. If a WN stood naked on a busy street corner holding a sign saying "Hey Whitey - www.GOVNN.com" and 100 whites logged on as a result, then the naked WN did a good thing, and deserves our gratitude. "Every day we're not attacked by jewish press hounds is a day we've wasted" (Mein Kampf)
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2134858.html Plenty more examples there of people getting punished for saying that British soldiers in Afghanistan should go to hell, someone getting three months in prison for making comments about a child who was missing and so on. The point I'm making is that we simply do not know what we can and can't say. I believe people shouldn't say anything stupid or illegal in the first place, and the bloke in the story above who tweeted that he was giving a closed airport a week to sort itself out or he was blowing it up really should have known better, but who would have thought it would be a crime to post a picture of a burning poppy in protest at our involvement in the current wars? It's only one step away from being arrested for voicing opposition at our involvement and that's only one step away from being arrested for criticising the government. Our ministers are very vocal about other countries and their arrests and/or persecutions of critics but they're only a few steps away from being like that themselves. They even arrested and charged a Member of Parliament for the Green party for attending a fracking protest! The Green party is a party of lentil eating tree huggers and anti-fracking is exactly their sort of cause but because it's a government pet project at the minute.....
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First off, .please excuse any mistakes in this post as I am using a new phone.
I had an interesting telephone conversation with a fellow WN today about respect. In today's society, I hear people talking about respect a lot. The desire, the need, even the all consuming demands for it. R-E-S-P-E-C-T If you ever watch any of the "prison life" shows and documentaries one quickly realizes that inmate life revolves around their demand for respect. Respect from fellow convicts and prison staff. Think back to the US Civil Rights movement.....and you quickly realize that demands for respect was a oft used slogan and rally cry. Think about modern law enforcement and the demand for respect today's officers demand and crave....not for their position or authority, but on a personal level. What is the common denominator each of these groups have? Their need and desire to be respected. Why? Ever think about it? Why do some people make such a big deal about being respected on a personal level? I submit they need, desire, and demand respect from others because they don't have a sense of self worth or self respect on their own. They define their self worth by what others/peers think about them.....being respected (not necessarily liked or disliked). The only way they have any self respect is if it comes from an outside source.....it is the only way to verify or define their self image. Pathetic when you really think about it. I could not care less if people "respect" me or not, because I have a solid sense of my own self worth. I don't need their respect to fill a void in my life. I'm secure enough with myself that a lack of respect.....or even outright disrespect....does not effect me in the least unless it comes from a person important to me on a personal level. When was the last time you heard a person who is secure in their sense of self cry about respect? When was the last time you heard a fag/kwap/commie/negro/convict or any other generally "oppressed" person cry about it? **Edit** And please don't confuse respect with respectable (in a professional or social sense). They are two separate things. Last edited by Mr A.Anderson; February 12th, 2014 at 08:29 PM. |
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The good and bad of Craig are reflected in what Rounder and Varg say.
I wish we could take some of the heat out of this. Here's how I see things. We all agree on the goal: white sovereignty. To some extent, this forum helps achieve that goal. I, as one individual, want to act in a way best calculated to advance the goal. What can I (or anyone) do, on a forum, to advance the cause? 1) (which I think of as the 'negative' side) follow the rules. Don't impede the flow of traffic. Don't create problems. 2) (the 'positive' side): add value (to the forum/to the cause). Write stuff, organize stuff, help advance certain people, arguments, actions (rallies or papers, or something else) that one thinks further the cause. Also, as an individual, I can dejew my life. Cut out as many, if not all, connections between my money and decisions and the jew retailers, media companies and political powers. And post how I do this, and any tips I come across that other whites can use to dejew their lives. This is "living white" in everyday terms. If you can't use your real name, then don't. If you're bothered by others saying you should, ignore it. You lose credibility when you say that people using their real names doesn't help OUR CAUSE. It most certainly does help. But if you can't or won't for whatever reason, then don't. There are still plenty of things you can do - do them. A long-term goal requires discipline and future-orientation in thinking and acting. If you keep this north star in mind -- we want whites 'living white' in a white sovereign nation -- then how can it not condition your actions? Or you can just take a silly name and entertain yourself here. Only the 'negative' I describe above is mandatory. The rest is for people who want to do more than that. But why wouldn't you want more than that, unless you're an anti or conservative? Last edited by Alex Linder; February 12th, 2014 at 09:18 PM. |
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If a person wants to use their real name, more power to them. I have no problem with people who post using their real name. In fact, I haven't seen anybody on my side of the issue that have ever disparaged anyone for doing so. That honor belongs to Rounder.
I am willing to say (in agreement with a point you made) that I am not willing to do so at this point in my life.....not can't. I've talked about self imposed limitations many times in the past. However, I impose this limitation as part of a thought out, long term plan. I simply object to the oft repeated reasons why not using your real name is a detriment on a discussion forum. Now, if the vision or goal is to somehow go beyond a mere discussion forum into some form of actual organization.......different story. Am I upset or butthurt about Rounder's near obsessive bleating about the subject on a personal level? Not at all. Do I find his admitted attempts to shame weak willed people into doing something that carries real possible ratifications without fully knowing what they are committing to reprehensible and reckless? Yes. I would never discourage somebody from being public.....even on a discussion forum. I would encourage them to educate themselves first.....and really consider the reasons they are doing so at this particular point in their life. We should all be in the habit of making decisions that have been well thought out, and not based on emotion like most non-whites. Last edited by Mr A.Anderson; February 12th, 2014 at 10:00 PM. |
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I don't blame Craig or even Dutton for anything. They did what they did. Maybe some good will come of it, maybe not.
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For over 50 years, the jewsmedia has overtly, and subliminally using clever psychological propaganda, convinced white men to "play it safe, don't get involved, go with the smart money, or else you'll most likely suffer dreadful personal consequences."
All white men are influenced to some degree or other by this paralyzing jewsmedia propaganda, and almost all secretly believe they themselves, are the only white men affected. And so they keep it to themselves, hoping other white men are not the same. They actually believe they made their decision to remain anonymous and paralyzed all by themselves, after considering all the real world facts, not realizing the GD jews pumped all that yellow poison shit into their heads daily all their lives. (This paragraph is most especially relevant to southern white men, but others as well) Huge, tough-looking, bearded white men, wearing cowboy hats and boots, prancing confidently around truck stops, for example, wouldn't come to the aid of a teenage white girl being brutally beaten by two buck niggers. Instead, these white men would look the other way pretending they didn't see it. Why ?? Because they are jewsmedia programmed: "Play it safe, don't get involved, let somebody else do it". I'm convinced the only way to cure these programmed yellow cunts, short of convincing jew-wise, racially aware WNs to lead the masses by example, which ain't gonna happen as proven by this board, is to shame them out of it. Reasoning doesn't work. Shame tactics will work with rednecks and blue collar northerners, but not with intellectuals, in my experienced judgment.
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February 13th, 2014 | #111 |
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The folks in Underwood ND are starting to panic
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Have you read this thread? I'll just use the examples Kynan and Deb face alone to debunk your statement. Dutton and Henderson face because of being a public WN: 1. Harassment (Gregory Bruce, UnityND, Leithnd.com) 2. Borderline Stalking (Gregory Bruce, Leithnd.com, UnityND) 3. Loss of Housing (kicked out of rental property which *you* reported) 4. Lack of employment opportunities (Deborah and Kynan haven't been able to find a job) 5. Community outrage and mobilization to stop/harass them attempting to purchase a new house. Yet......these things aren't real, eh? Just jewish propaganda that we've been led to believe are real. Quote:
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Have you ever stopped and wondered why this shame tactic of yours worked here in the past, but not now? It's quite simple, really.......Alex has even alluded to this point several times, recently even. The general membership here now is more jew wise, more jaded, more savvy than in the past. In other words, the general membership is now comprised of people who make decisions based on logic and reason.....and less emotional......more "intellectuals" if you will. Your attempts at using a "shame" tactic doesn't work anymore.....but you don't understand that because it is a major flaw in your "leadership" ability. Across the board, your philosophy is to use the same old bag of tricks (frontal assault, charge the hill, in the face, shame, etc) thinking that since they worked to some effect once (which is arguable), they will work again. You have not evolved one bit in your leadership ability, and it shows. You should know the Army's definition of leadership, MSG. Leadership is the ability to influence others to accomplish a mission by providing purpose, direction, and motivation. Simply put, you can tell a soldier to go to hell, and he leaves with a smile on his face looking forward to accomplishing the mission. That's Leadership. You are just trying to use jew tricks to influence people that have already recognized and rejected jew tricks in their daily lives. And you wonder why you flail about ineffectively? |
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Alex's arguments are much more persuasive, IMO, because he at least acknowledges the risks one faces in becoming a public WN instead of believing membership is stupid enough to believe the risks are nothing but jewish propaganda. He tempers this with always pointing out a goal that is ultimately greater than the individual. The greater good.
He then goes as far as making the arguments that based on one's personal situation in life, the risks may not be as dire as we may believe, and gives possible examples of such. I do believe there are merits.....very important ones......to being public, to taking the shrouds of anonymity and tossing them away. It is an imperative and necessary step to evolve into something greater....something new.....to make progress in the pursuit of our goals. However, there is one thing that I learned as a leader. I will never ask a soldier to do something that I have not done, or was willing to do, myself. I am not in a position to ask anyone to become a public figure because of this. Simply because I am not ready to step forward myself......at this point in my life. One of the things we lack, as a community, is an agreed upon path of progress. Simply.....how to fight. I've stated many times that I believe in a long term plan, a multi-generational approach. In many ways modeled after the jew's own approach to power in the West. Skipping points A, B, C, D, and E to jump right to point F is absurd in my opinion. It doesn't mean that point F is unimportant or not worth striving for. It just simply means that it is counter-productive to jump right to that point without establishing and reaching the points before it. |
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This is what you knowingly expect to happen to other WN's when you advocate other Whites do the same as him, and threaten that unless they ruin themselves, you will call them names. Quote:
They knew then he would no longer be accepted to play any major part in WN anymore, thus no longer of any use, so are now disposing of him. Now the Jews are laughing, hysterically. Soon, Dutton will follow. Care to tell us what you've done to help these two who've done exactly as you advocate, and who are now facing jail? Paid for their legal fees, offered to take them in, offered them your government cheque? Since your release close to 25 years ago, you've confined your own activities to playing newspaper delivery boy, carefully avoiding areas such as finance, training, politics other than pretending to stand. All those thousands of people you had, yet you didn't stand for elections, didn't win any seats. You know when you enter those areas, then you begin swimming in deep murky seas at dusk, where the monsters swim, where the battle is actually fought. Not for you, you'd rather stand on the internet shore, strutting about, shouting insults, as their fins move past. You're not shouting at us because we're afraid, you're shouting at us to cover your own fear. You never did pick up a rifle and go to guard your country's borders, did you? For all your militancy, marching, shouting, parading, waving cloths, when it came to defending the borders of your own country, actually defending your own people, well, that was too much to ask, wasn't it? By making this big noise about how important you are on the internet, you try to drown out the questions as to what you've done for Whites offline. Built a school, a clinic, changed any laws, deported anyone, closed down any non-white businesses, put any Jews and non-whites in prison? What have you ever actually done that benefitted Whites in real life? The Jews don't fear Craig, they fear the ideas he is proposing. Men die easily, but ideas live on. It is the ideas and principles of WN that matter, not individuals. Craig, you and so many in the movement insist on trying to build the movement around themselves, rather than around principles, that they lose sight of the purpose, that our function is the distribution of WN principles, strategies, best practice. Once the critical mass have been exposed to them, accepted them, and that critical mass reaches tipping point, and starts looking for leaders, then leaders emerge. The obsession with celebrity status and personality cults, rather than focusing on making the principles being known by the public, is why WN in the US flounders about. Standing in the spotlight makes one an easy target. Hunters and predators conceal themselves, prey conceals themselves, the entire living world, plants, fish, animals, reptiles, birds, insects camouflage themselves, those that don't get killed. Nowhere in the police, military or intelligence agencies, where folks do know something about conflict, do they advocate standing up and making a target of oneself. Camouflage, deception, stalking, ambush are taught instead Some people learn from experts, some serve as warnings of what can happen when folks don't realise trench warfare didn't work. Which two principles of war did the US, UK, USSR, France and China all have in common? http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/prinwar.htm Surprise Concentration of Force But some think they know better. Too many in the WN movement have grown so used to living in an echo chamber, they think they know better than the experts. I wonder how many WN "leaders" would be in the movement if they were forced to be anonymous, and could not get any personal attention. If the tipping point in WN is not reached soon, then the US will become like the USSR. What is permitted to be said today, may not be tomorrow.
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