Killing of the male lion, Cecil.

[keifer]

Trophy bucks are at least as much due to nutrition as genetics,
Genetics allows them to have choice over feeding grounds. I have seen Mule deer run off imposers and seen WT-does box it out over an apple tree. Genetics says "Hey you young buck, you approach the water hole first, if you don't get killed then I will think about taking a drink myself." Genetics say, "I think I will just hang out up here on the high-ground while the rest of you fools go play in traffic."

[Olaf Menes]

Originally Posted by keifer

Trophy bucks are at least as much due to nutrition as genetics,

You should not shoot "Trophy" bucks until the hunting establishment gets the logistics of culling the herd. If most hunters were content on shooting the smaller, less dominant bucks and leave the massive racked mega bucks to breed, pretty soon after a few generations the majority of all bucks would be trophy caliber.

[Maynard]

Originally Posted by Olaf Menes

Dear Cunt hunters who lack integrity........

No matter how many apex predators you kill you are still a cunt. The old saying goes, unless you are going to eat it, don't kill it. You are killing it because you are a self neutered twat who thinks killing a apex predator... dangerous animals... is going to make you a big man by hanging its head on your wall? Sorry, you are still a cunt.

Ooooh, I am so scared of you now. You killed a lion. How about you come hunt something really dangerous. Something that shoots back? Nope, your cunt level cowardice would prevent you from ever doing that!

Now we all know this egotistical turd is not going to eat lion meat.Just another wealthy cunt drainage, like the mid century English elephant hunters, This type of hunting is done for one reason....Ego trip. Take your faggot ass Ted Nugent wanna be trophy room and get a life you pathetic maggot.

I have no issue with hunters with integrity. These hunters have a self imposed obligation for a swift and sure kill. They hunt for food, not for some ego faggot trophy fetish,a stuffed bobcat that ends up covered in dust in a closet.

Yes there are some people who shoot bears and eat the meat. 95% of bear hunters do not, they are ego tripping wealthy faggots looking to hang a bear head on a wall. Big deal, you shot a dangerous animal with a high powered rifle. Yet you still have micro balls!

There is no need to hunt apex predators in the modern age. Unless a mountain lion or bear is in your sheep corral, or just ate your dog. So called hunters that feel the need to hunt apex predators are ego driven cowards, little queerbaits with self esteem issues. In this modern age, the population of apex predators, along with a lower breeding rate, does not support hunting on large scales.

Herd animals like whitetail deer and turkey have actually increased in numbers exceeding those of colonial times due to massive food resources they consume,provided by modern farming. Hunt those animals. Hunt pheasants and waterfowl,and game animals with massive numbers and those that reproduce quickly.

This maggot in question poached a bear in Wisconsin in 08. Nice. The reason hunting regulations were imposed is because of belligerent cunts with guns. You have seen them, total fuckwits in turn of the century pictures with their big bad shotgun with hundreds of ducks, geese, and other assorted game. Then they stood around and wondered why after several decades of this no game was left.

Get a clue hunters, it is called integrity.

Wait, there are bear hunters that DON'T eat the meat? The fuck is wrong with them? Bear tastes good, and will keep your freezer full for a long time.

[JeffreyWaffenSS]

Originally Posted by Dan Hadaway

Lions and pretty much all wildlife, are not a threat to us humans as a species. Niggers, spics, etc are. My issue with this isn't really that the lion was killed, but that the media only goes ballistic when it's white people doing the killing.

And most people killed by things like bears and alligators are because they're acting stupid.

Also shark attacks, well if you're swimming in a sharks habitat and get attack why is it the sharks fault? The shark sees prey and eats it. A shark can't tell the difference between a human.

I take the NSDAP approach to animal rights.

[Zorost]

Originally Posted by keifer

Trophy bucks are at least as much due to nutrition as genetics,
Genetics allows them to have choice over feeding grounds. I have seen Mule deer run off imposers and seen WT-does box it out over an apple tree. Genetics says "Hey you young buck, you approach the water hole first, if you don't get killed then I will think about taking a drink myself." Genetics say, "I think I will just hang out up here on the high-ground while the rest of you fools go play in traffic."

None of which refutes my argument. Thanks for trying though.


This was an animal. ONE ANIMAL. On another fucking continent. People who think this is in any way important are cuckvironmentalists, or something else that sounds trendy.

[Roger Bannon]

Originally Posted by Zorost

Like many of the closet fag liberals on this thread, you have no clue. I am a hunter as are most of my family and friends, and no one argues either of those things. Why? Because part of being a hunter is understanding nature. Trophy bucks are at least as much due to nutrition as genetics, therefore even trophy hunters want to keep a herd culled down to the holding capacity or less.

Since I think national sovereignty is important, I am against this hunter breaking local laws. But that is all it is, breaking a few laws. It isn't a furry genocide, or a predator holocaust. It's just some guy that should get a fine or jail, or whatever the local punishment is.

I agree, but until we convince people to declare open season on the dindu population, this is the situation we are stuck in. Also, killing an old male lion won't affect the lion species, since it's a male and has probably already passed on its genes. The only tragedy in this story is the human one, that a bunch of peoples' jimmies got rustled because a white male shot something from Africa.

This hunt isn't comparable to you shooting defenseless deer that are as commonplace as rabbits.

This guy is akin to a poacher. IMO his defense is to play dumb but he's tangled with authorities before from what I've read about him.

The tragedy here is that Africa, in its inability to provide the market with something meaningful, is selling its wildlife to sport shooters. It's bad enough that Asians are driving poachers to kill animals to make their dick hard.

[White Winger]

White man slaughtering ONE animal in Zimbabwe = a tragedy

niggers slaughtering White Men, Women and Children in Zimbabwe = a statistic

[keifer]

[QUOTE=Zorost;1886103]None of which refutes my argument. Thanks for trying though.
I wasn't trying to refute your argument, at least not the context about animals with good diet grow to be bigger healthier animals. I found that point astonishing original and insightful.

"Here's my dear for the year. It ain't no trophy, just a four pointer, better luck next year."
How many times have you heard this statement. Better yet Zorost, how many times have you said this all the while hoping for something more impressive. Trophy hunters take their objective seriously, many will forgo taking anything other than trophy status animals, end the season willingly empty handed so as to not lose their accumulated tag points that give them better percentages at a chance for better choice hunt regions next year. Regions that have greater populations of trophy material, recognized as such by both government and hunters alike, and not least of all, recognized by genetically superior animals as their choice of habitat.

[-JC]

It is now the Department of Fish and Wildlife and has more "biologists" and fewer wardens.

Good one:

Originally Posted by White Winger

White man slaughtering ONE animal in Zimbabwe = a tragedy

niggers slaughtering White Men, Women and Children in Zimbabwe = a statistic

[Dale VanderMeer]

It's better to be a living lion, then a living, jenkim loving congoloid.

Africa would be better as a nature preserve and sealed off from the entire world.
Has anything good come from Africa? Other than the White Boers and Afrikaners who sold out their nation out to communist congoloids? Whites and lions have something in common, both are endangered and have a hostile species surrounding us. Plus, this species steals our food and contributes nothing to either group. Time to ignore the congoloids and let them return to their natural state. They can go back to picking fruit out of trees and eat each other. We can just observe the lions hunting them, instead of hunting this majestic apex predator the "King of the Jungle." It's best to help the Whites there to move back to the homelands and leave Africa completely alone.

By the way, I know now why lions lick their assholes. It's the way for them to get the taste of nigs out of their mouths!

Originally Posted by White Winger

White man slaughtering ONE animal in Zimbabwe = a tragedy

niggers slaughtering White Men, Women and Children in Zimbabwe = a statistic

[Zorost]

Originally Posted by Roger Bannon

This guy is akin to a poacher. IMO his defense is to play dumb but he's tangled with authorities before from what I've read about him.

I absolutely agree. He broke a law, he should be punished. Why would anyone use up their precious supply of 'give a damn' on that?

Originally Posted by White Winger

White man slaughtering ONE animal in Zimbabwe = a tragedy

niggers slaughtering White Men, Women and Children in Zimbabwe = a statistic

Exactly!

Originally Posted by keifer

I wasn't trying to refute your argument, at least not the context about animals with good diet grow to be bigger healthier animals. I found that point astonishing original and insightful.

Then what were you talking about?

Originally Posted by keifer

"Here's my dear for the year. It ain't no trophy, just a four pointer, better luck next year."
How many times have you heard this statement. Better yet Zorost, how many times have you said this all the while hoping for something more impressive. Trophy hunters take their objective seriously, many will forgo taking anything other than trophy status animals, end the season willingly empty handed so as to not lose their accumulated tag points that give them better percentages at a chance for better choice hunt regions next year. Regions that have greater populations of trophy material, recognized as such by both government and hunters alike, and not least of all, recognized by genetically superior animals as their choice of habitat.

I've heard it a few times, I've never said it myself. I couldn't care less about trophies, I hunt for meat and for camaraderie. Why is it a big deal to kill trophy animals? I couldn't care less if the average antler size decreased by 'X' Boone and Crocket points every century.

[Samuel Toothgold]

Because, it wasn't a grizzly bear in northern Canada. It was a lion-bagging made public taken place in Poachstan which is already plagued with poaching for Coolies Niggrhoids. As conservationists attempt to plug holes in the conservation sive, this Brideshead revisited type charachter sets the wrong example to Africa. If he were a man, why isn't he bagging poachers instead?

[Zorost]

Originally Posted by Samuel Toothgold

If he were a man, why isn't he bagging poachers instead?

Pretty sure the fine for shooting people is greater than for shooting lions, even in Africa.

The concept of killing in "self-defense" being expanded to killing in "society-defense" does sound intriguing though...

[White Winger]

I should have written it as:

One lion, killed by a White Man in Zimbabwe = A Tragedy

Thousands, of White Men, Women and Children,slaughtered by niggers in Zimbabwe beginning in 1980 = Only A Statistic

And it is a tragedy - one less lion that can slaughter niggers!

[Sean Gruber]

Here's a good novel about a hunter. Good quick read:

https://archive.org/stream/TheHunter...unter_djvu.txt

[Fred Streed]

I grew up in a family of hunters. As a teen on through my twenties I also hunted. Deer, water fowl, upland game, and varmints. As I got older I kind of gave it up, I didn't really enjoy it anymore so I quit doing it. That is a decision I made for myself, I don't push it onto others. My family, brothers, nieces, nephews, all are still fanatical hunters. My oldest brother was a licensed guide for several years, mostly for elk. He had a 100% success rate for his clients. He turned the guide service over to one of my nephews. Hunting is in our genes, it is one of the things that made us human.

A lot of people attack sport hunting while justifying hunting for meat. Back in the 1930s this country had something called an economic depression. And no welfare state. So people got hungry. And in many areas they damn near wiped out a lot of game species. The western US was relatively unpopulated and it didn't have as much effect on game, but the eastern states all but wiped out the white tail deer in large areas. I have talked to old timers in West Virginia who said deer were rarely seen up until the '60s. Of course now they are everywhere.

The push for game laws, including seasons and limits, came from sport hunters originally. They are not the blood thirsty monsters they are made out to be. Most of them support game management and even fund it. I don't see much funding from PETA going toward game preservation.

It is not trophy hunting that is endangering big game species in Africa. It is niggers with AK-47s poaching them for a few dollars on the black market furnishing rhino horns and lion penises to slanty eyed little bastards who have never heard of Viagra. Trophy hunting is the only thing keeping some species from doing a dodo. They bring enough money into the nigger economies to make it worthwhile for the head coons to crack down on poaching.

And for those who think trophy hunters are cowards, do you have any idea how dangerous a cape buffalo or rhinoceros is? Especially at archery range? How about tracking a wounded and pissed off lion into the brush?

I'm not justifying that dentist guy's actions in baiting the lion out of a park, that was pretty low, but it doesn't mean all hunters are guilty.

As for those who oppose hunting, or any particular kind of hunting, I would advise you don't participate in it. Itz like golf. Stupidest sport I have ever seen. Pointless waste of time. So I don't do it. But if someone else wants to walk his ass off chasing a little ball, only to hit it again when he finds it, well, have at it. It's none of my business.

[Ramsay Bolton]

Come on now Olaf, everyone knows it takes a real man to kill a doe from 500 yards away, only using a high powered rifle.

[Fred Streed]

As for animals being "just animals," so are humans. The higher mammals like dogs or horses or cats display every emotion that humans do, from happiness to sorrow to anger to love, even humor. Yeah, I know that is "anthropomorphizing" but it is still true. I'm talking about higher species here, not niggers, kikes, or zipperheads, the only use I can see for them is to replace lab rats for vivisection. Pisses me off when they do that to dogs and cats or even rats. Of fucking course it hurts and wrecks your eye when Mr. Lab Technician sprays that new perfume in it. Fucking idiots. They should be held down and have that shit sprayed in their eyes, see how they like it.

Read Savitri Devi's Impeachment of Man.

[Fred Streed]

Originally Posted by Ramsay Bolton

Come on now Olaf, everyone knows it takes a real man to kill a doe from 500 yards away, only using a high powered rifle.

I don't know about it taking a "real man" but it takes some rather impressive trigger control and other shooting skills.

[Vance Stubbs]

Originally Posted by Fred Streed

As for animals being "just animals," so are humans. The higher mammals like dogs or horses or cats display every emotion that humans do, from happiness to sorrow to anger to love, even humor.

The great apes, at least, also display all the same social and moral behavior. And chimps hunt with wooden spears.

Yeah, I know that is "anthropomorphizing" but it is still true.

Well, it's not anthropomorphizing, it's just a fact. Like both humans and dogs having legs and teeth.