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Old May 11th, 2013 #1
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I used to be a Christian, until I turned 14 and realized that nothing about Christianity made any sense.

The only reason people believe in Christianity is because they are afraid to stop believing in it; they are afraid that the angry Jewish god in the sky might be real and that he will send them to hell for not believing in him.

No one really cares anything about going to heaven if it was real - it's a boring place, like a never-ending church-service in the sky that just goes on and on forever and ever without end day after day for all eternity.

There is nothing to do in heaven except sing the praises of Jesus and Yahweh, day after fucking day. There is no sex, nothing fun, just singing the goddamn praises of fucking Jesus, day after fucking day, year after fucking year for all fucking eternity.

Sounds like a real hell to me.

But the Christians think hell is a place of fire and torment and pain and anguish and suffering where all the truly interesting people go when they die to suffer and burn forever and ever.

Okay, big deal....

'Cause you're dead, ya know?

When people die, what happens?

Well, besides the obvious - they rot after they are buried and end up a box full of bones, or ashes if they get cremated - their consciousness dies too. We know this because sometimes peoples consciousness dies before their bodies actually do. The consciousness is dependent on the brain functioning, and when the brain stops functioning - boom, you're gone, brain dead, like a fucking potato.

So, we have a body that just rots away to nothing in the grave and a consciousness that evaporates into thin air as soon as our brain stops functioning. So what does that leave to go to hell, even if hell were actually real?

What's that? A soul you say?

Okay, whatever....so you believe that we have a soul; fine.

A soul isn't a physical thing, it doesn't have its own body; it doesn't have a nervous system, it doesn't have nerve endings; it's not going to be susceptible to experiencing heat or any sort of physical sensation; so going to hell (if such a place actually existed) wouldn't have any effect on a soul (if a soul actually existed).

An then there is the fact that hell isn't what most people think it is. The Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek, and later translated into Latin, then English, and other languages.

In the Bible, in the original languages, the word "hell" does not appear. The Hebrew word Sheol is used. Sheol is a Hebrew word that means "grave", so when the Bible talks about hell, it is really talking about sheol - "the grave" - a place of burial, the tomb. Not some place full of fire and brimstone and pain and torment, just a fucking grave, the place where we all end up anyway.

When the Bible was translated into Latin, the word sheol was translated into the Latin word Hades....."But wait, that's the same as hell, right?" No, not exactly. Hades is what the Greeks and Romans in Pagan mythology believed in. It wasn't a place of fire and torment and burning, it was a quiet realm of shadows and mist where the spirits of the dead were believed to reside after death; it was the Classical Pagan poetic allusion to the grave, named after the Greek god Hades who ruled over it as a guardian of the soul of the dead and of the treasures that lie buried deep in the earth.

So, where did "hell" come from?

It came from Germanic/Norse and Anglo-Saxon pagan mythology. Hel was the name of a female deity, the daughter of Loki, and she, like the Greek god Hades and the Roman god Pluto, ruled over the realm of the dead in the pre-Christian Pagan mythology that was believed in by the Germanic peoples, which included the English, since the Anglo-Saxons originated in Germany.

So, when the Bible was finally translated into English from the Latin translation of the original Hebrew texts, the word sheol "grave" in the Hebrew which had been translated into Hades in Latin, ended up getting translated to Hell in English, from the name of the place ruled over by the Germanic goddess of the underworld in pre-Christian Pagan mythology.

So, now you know there's nothing to be afraid of if you don't believe in Christianity; nothing is going to happen to you that wouldn't naturally happen to you and everyone else that ever lived when they die anyway.

So, you don't have to pretend to like the angry Jewish god that sits on a golden throne up in the sky who supposedly hands out punishment to people for just doing things that people naturally do (sort of a fucked up piece of shit kind of god if you ask me). And you don't have to go on pretending that you really do want to spend all the rest of eternity singing the praises of Jesus, day after day, year after year, forever and ever in a never-ending church service up in the sky; because, let's face it, no one in their right mind would really want to do that.

So now you can tell the Jew god Yahweh and his faggy son, the dead Jew on a stick to go fuck off - "Go fuck yourselves!" As a White man, there is absolutely no reason why you should be held captive to some idle Jewish superstition; it is beneath you; as a White man, you should be above all that, so be a White man and quit believing in that fucked up Jewish mind-control shit.
 
Old May 11th, 2013 #2
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if you aren't a christian that's fine but don't tell others what they should not believe. it's really none of your business.
 
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Old May 11th, 2013 #5
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if you aren't a christian that's fine but don't tell others what they should not believe. it's really none of your business.
If they are White it's my business. They shouldn't be dishonoring the race I belong to with their superstitious fear of the god of the Jews.
 
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Old May 11th, 2013 #7
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I used to be a Christian, until I turned 14 and realized that nothing about Christianity made any sense.

14 sounds about right. The early teens is when you figure out everything in life and realize that adults are nothing but old fools that are holding on to their backward ways. Really, American teens are some of the most wisest, the most brilliant, and all round most hip people on the planet. Unlike other cultures that live in the dark ages still (where the parents force traditions and religion on their children) Americans teens have been emancipated from this. In fact, American teens are the in vanguard for progressive American culture, they know what's hip and what's cool, not their dinosaur thinking parents. So bravo to you, Tom Joad, for freeing yourself at the age of 14 and coming here to share your enlightened thoughts.
 
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Procopius is the typical christ twit who believes everyone outside the cult is a vice-ridden nihilist, meanwhile there's the porn shop bordering his 'christian' community where, inexplicably, business couldn't be better.

But procopius won't mention that.
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Old May 11th, 2013 #9
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I used to be a Christian, until I turned 14 and realized that nothing about Christianity made any sense.

The only reason people believe in Christianity is because they are afraid to stop believing in it; they are afraid that the angry Jewish god in the sky might be real and that he will send them to hell for not believing in him.

No one really cares anything about going to heaven if it was real - it's a boring place, like a never-ending church-service in the sky that just goes on and on forever and ever without end day after day for all eternity.

There is nothing to do in heaven except sing the praises of Jesus and Yahweh, day after fucking day. There is no sex, nothing fun, just singing the goddamn praises of fucking Jesus, day after fucking day, year after fucking year for all fucking eternity.

Sounds like a real hell to me.

But the Christians think hell is a place of fire and torment and pain and anguish and suffering where all the truly interesting people go when they die to suffer and burn forever and ever.

Okay, big deal....

'Cause you're dead, ya know?

When people die, what happens?

Well, besides the obvious - they rot after they are buried and end up a box full of bones, or ashes if they get cremated - their consciousness dies too. We know this because sometimes peoples consciousness dies before their bodies actually do. The consciousness is dependent on the brain functioning, and when the brain stops functioning - boom, you're gone, brain dead, like a fucking potato.

So, we have a body that just rots away to nothing in the grave and a consciousness that evaporates into thin air as soon as our brain stops functioning. So what does that leave to go to hell, even if hell were actually real?

What's that? A soul you say?

Okay, whatever....so you believe that we have a soul; fine.

A soul isn't a physical thing, it doesn't have its own body; it doesn't have a nervous system, it doesn't have nerve endings; it's not going to be susceptible to experiencing heat or any sort of physical sensation; so going to hell (if such a place actually existed) wouldn't have any effect on a soul (if a soul actually existed).

An then there is the fact that hell isn't what most people think it is. The Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek, and later translated into Latin, then English, and other languages.

In the Bible, in the original languages, the word "hell" does not appear. The Hebrew word Sheol is used. Sheol is a Hebrew word that means "grave", so when the Bible talks about hell, it is really talking about sheol - "the grave" - a place of burial, the tomb. Not some place full of fire and brimstone and pain and torment, just a fucking grave, the place where we all end up anyway.

When the Bible was translated into Latin, the word sheol was translated into the Latin word Hades....."But wait, that's the same as hell, right?" No, not exactly. Hades is what the Greeks and Romans in Pagan mythology believed in. It wasn't a place of fire and torment and burning, it was a quiet realm of shadows and mist where the spirits of the dead were believed to reside after death; it was the Classical Pagan poetic allusion to the grave, named after the Greek god Hades who ruled over it as a guardian of the soul of the dead and of the treasures that lie buried deep in the earth.

So, where did "hell" come from?

It came from Germanic/Norse and Anglo-Saxon pagan mythology. Hel was the name of a female deity, the daughter of Loki, and she, like the Greek god Hades and the Roman god Pluto, ruled over the realm of the dead in the pre-Christian Pagan mythology that was believed in by the Germanic peoples, which included the English, since the Anglo-Saxons originated in Germany.

So, when the Bible was finally translated into English from the Latin translation of the original Hebrew texts, the word sheol "grave" in the Hebrew which had been translated into Hades in Latin, ended up getting translated to Hell in English, from the name of the place ruled over by the Germanic goddess of the underworld in pre-Christian Pagan mythology.

So, now you know there's nothing to be afraid of if you don't believe in Christianity; nothing is going to happen to you that wouldn't naturally happen to you and everyone else that ever lived when they die anyway.

So, you don't have to pretend to like the angry Jewish god that sits on a golden throne up in the sky who supposedly hands out punishment to people for just doing things that people naturally do (sort of a fucked up piece of shit kind of god if you ask me). And you don't have to go on pretending that you really do want to spend all the rest of eternity singing the praises of Jesus, day after day, year after year, forever and ever in a never-ending church service up in the sky; because, let's face it, no one in their right mind would really want to do that.

So now you can tell the Jew god Yahweh and his faggy son, the dead Jew on a stick to go fuck off - "Go fuck yourselves!" As a White man, there is absolutely no reason why you should be held captive to some idle Jewish superstition; it is beneath you; as a White man, you should be above all that, so be a White man and quit believing in that fucked up Jewish mind-control shit.
Hilarious piece there Joad. On the subject of hell, you should appreciate that hell is an Indo European concept and is discussed in detail in the works of Plato, usually Socrates expounding on it. Some people have said that Christianity is platonism for the masses, which is true in a lot of ways. So the Hell concept in Christianity comes by way of its Greek sources.
 
Old May 11th, 2013 #10
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Religion never makes sense in a mathematical way, but that doesn't stop it.

The ancient first Aryans had a trinity of gods, including a sky father, a thunder god and a friendly god or goddess of sex and food production. Zeus (mostly sky father, also called Jove, probably Jehovah) punished evil (sometimes, anyway) - when the Titans killed and ate the baby Dionysus, he killed them with his thunderbolts. Europeans have always feared punishment coming out of the sky. Also, they reverenced the ancestors.

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Hilarious piece there Joad. On the subject of hell, you should appreciate that hell is an Indo European concept and is discussed in detail in the works of Plato, usually Socrates expounding on it. Some people have said that Christianity is platonism for the masses, which is true in a lot of ways. So the Hell concept in Christianity comes by way of its Greek sources.
Oh no! Bardamu, you do realize that the idiot Akins is now going to post 27 pages of Wiki... or whatever, maybe an hundred photos to prove you wrong. Linder banned this idiot and it came back a few days later and sticks around posting with impunity. Maybe a month from now Linder will get around to banning it again. Now that the idiot can get new accounts, that will last a day or two.

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The ancient first Aryans had a trinity of gods, including a sky father, a thunder god and a friendly god or goddess of sex and food production.
What we should never have adopted is the myth of a god who was also a superior man and allowed himself to be murdered for the benefit of inferior men.

It doesn't take a genius to deduce how this value system will ultimately lead to the degradation of any race who practices it.
 
Old May 11th, 2013 #13
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Religion never makes sense in a mathematical way, but that doesn't stop it.

The ancient first Aryans had a trinity of gods, including a sky father, a thunder god and a friendly god or goddess of sex and food production. Zeus (mostly sky father, also called Jove, probably Jehovah) punished evil (sometimes, anyway) - when the Titans killed and ate the baby Dionysus, he killed them with his thunderbolts. Europeans have always feared punishment coming out of the sky. Also, they reverenced the ancestors.

Learn your heritage.
When agriculture was introduced to Europe it replaced hunting and herding as the primary means of survival, which caused a cultural shift. Agriculture was dependent on the weather, rain, sunshine, etc., so the god of the sky became the new major deity, displacing the horned god of hunting and herding as the primary male deity.

Because of his association with animals, the horned god came to be seen as a god of the underworld and a death deity, due to the fact that animals were slaughtered in the winter to thin out the herds to conserve feed, and to provide meat in the winter (the season of death) when crops didn't grow.

Thus the horned god, who was mankind's earliest male deity, was displaced by the god of the sky because of the agricultural dependence on rain and good weather for the growing of crops. This idea was carried over into Christianity when it was adopted in Europe and the horned god became conflated with the fallen angel (Azazel) who was cast out of heaven and imprisoned under the desert of Dudel for leading a disobedient insurrection of angels in taking the daughters of men as their wives and fathering a race of giants according to Hebrew mythology.

According to the Hebrew mythology contained in the Old Testament of the Bible, Satan, is a completely different "son of god" from the disobedient angel named Azazel who was cast out of heaven and imprisoned under the desert of Dudel for participating in the inssurection of angels in taking the daughters of men as their wives and fathering by them the race of giants. Unlike Azazel, Satan is an angel in good standing with Yahweh and serves as his appointed tester of men's fidelity to Yahweh. Satan is allowed to come and go as he pleases, and to enter Yahweh's presence at will, and to even makes bets with Yahweh on the faithfulness of humans, as is shown in the Book of Job.

The Book of Enoch, which describes the rebellion of a group of disobedient angels in taking the daughters of men as their wives and the punishment of Azazel who was singled out to take all the blame for it and punished by being confined in the desert to await his final destruction on the day of judgement, has nothing to do with Satan.

Unfortunately the Book of Enoch was not selected by the European Church founders to be included in their version of the Bible, and so it was largely forgotten; but it was preserved in the Ethiopian Bible. Ethiopia declared Christianity as their official state religion before Rome did.
 
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What we should never have adopted is the myth of a god who was also a superior man and allowed himself to be murdered for the benefit of inferior men.

It doesn't take a genius to deduce how this value system will ultimately lead to the degradation of any race who practices it.
Exactly.....

In Gaelic mythology, the gods were a divine race who once lived on an island out in the north Atlantic, beyond Ireland, that was called Tir nan Og, the "Land of Youth" where everything was perfect and beautiful and ordered as it should be.

But there was an elder race of beings who existed before the gods, malevolent, evil creatures called the Fomorians, who had been cast out of the presence of the gods, who were known as the Tuatha De Danann. The Fomorians had been cast into the sea, and there they became a race of pirate-like invaders and pillagers.

The Fomorians plotted to overtake the island of the gods by sending one of their leaders, disguised as a handsome lord, to Tir nan Og to impregnate the daughter of one of the rulers of the island, so that the child born of their union would eventually rule over the land.

But when the gods discovered this, the chief deity among them, Tuireann, the god of the thundering heavens, caused the island of Tir nan Og to sink into the ocean to prevent the Fomorians from ever laying claim to it, and the gods themselves departed and set out to find a new land in the mortal world, and at last they came to Ireland, and decided that they would make that island their home.

But Ireland was already inhabited by a race or mortals, the Hibernians, and they refused to relinquish their rule of Ireland to the gods, and so a great and bloody battle was fought, and ultimately the gods triumphed, and the Hibernians were given a quarter of the island to live on, while the rest was claimed by the Tuatha De Danann.

But another race of men eventually came to Ireland, they were known as the Gaels, and they had migrated across all of Europe out of Scythia, in order to reach their prophesied destination, the land of Ireland. And so, setting out from Galicia, in the northwest of Spain, a group of the Gaels came and visited Ireland; but the Tuatha De Danann were suspicious of their intentions and chased them away, attacking and fatally wounding the leader of the expedition.

And when the leader of the expedition of the Gaels died on their way back to Spain, his body was shown to his kinsmen, and the Gaels vowed to return to Ireland and to conquer that land and to take it for themselves; which the ultimately did after a long and bloody battle with the gods.

But even after the Gaels had taken the rulership of Ireland from the Tuatha De Danann, they were constantly menaced by the gods who caused their crops to fail and their cows to give no milk, so that the Gaels were forced to come to a truce with the gods. And an agreement was made between them that the Gaels should rule all of Irel;and that was above the surface of the ground, and that the Tuatha De Danann would have dominion over all that lay under the surface of the ground of Ireland.

And so the Tuatha De Danann came to inhabit the ancient Hibernian burial mounds or sidhes that are found throughout Ireland, so that the Tuatha De Danann came to be known as the Aes Sidhe in Gaelic, which means "the people of the hills." And through their magical powers, the gods caused a veil of invisibility to be raised between the world of mortal men and their own enchanted, magical, immortal realm of Siabra, that exists within the sidhe hills of Ireland; where only the most beautiful and deserving, and the bravest and most noble of mortals are ever allowed by the gods to visit.
 
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In Gaelic mythology, the gods were a divine race who once lived on an island out in the north Atlantic, beyond Ireland, that was called Tir nan Og, the "Land of Youth" where everything was perfect and beautiful and ordered as it should be.
By the way, isn't it fascinating how so many hyperborean legends precede hollow-earth theory to as far back as pre-history, though people dismiss it as new-age myth?

Still waiting for un-doctored photographs of the poles.
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By the way, isn't it fascinating how so many hyperborean legends precede hollow-earth theory to as far back as pre-history, though people dismiss it as new-age myth?

Still waiting for un-doctored photographs of the poles.
Maybe Sasquach will bring you some.
 
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Without true believers, nothing was lost when gaelic mythology fell to semitic mythology.

Yet people like you complain that it did.
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Without true believers, nothing was lost when gaelic mythology fell to semitic mythology.

Yet people like you complain that it did.
Of course something was lost, it is called ethnic and cultural integrity. Purity of our own native White culture and tradition was lost, it was compromised by Semitic pollution.

People like me want to see that pollution expunged from our race and culture.
 
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I like the space alien theory I've been seeing on TV, where God and JC and the bunch; and all their miracles, were just space aliens with advanced technology; and the dumb ass Jews believed they were gods, so we got stuck with their half ass interpretation of the holy spirit crap. I'd more believe in space aliens fucking with us; than a bunch of assholes in religious 4th century robes doing shit to people because they feel like it.



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I like the space alien theory I've been seeing on TV, where God and JC and the bunch; and all their miracles, were just space aliens with advanced technology; and the dumb ass Jews believed they were gods, so we got stuck with their half ass interpretation of the holy spirit crap. I'd more believe in space aliens fucking with us; than a bunch of assholes in religious 4th century robes doing shit to people because they feel like it.



Blessed be the idiots,for they have inherited the earth.
You do realize, don't you, that the History Channel and it's programs are produced by Jews, and programs like the one you mention are designed to attract people who wouldn't ordinarily believe in Christianity (the cult of Jewish supremacy) in order to sucker them into being subjugated by some newer, weirder form of the Jew-worship cult that is Christianity.

Space aliens - if they exist - couldn't possibly travel the many millions of light years it would take for them to reach the earth, even if they could somehow create transportation that travelled at the speed of light, it would still take tens of thousands of years to reach earth from the nearest solar system.
 
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