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Old November 22nd, 2009 #1
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Default The Future of the Struggle for the White Race

Another thread got me thinking about the future of the movement, and I came up with something I called "Descendantism" (needs a better name), which requires you to cast in your genetic lot with a specific population group (i.e. you can only procreate with other members of the group).

Here are the main points:

1. Representatives: Members of the group elect representatives to vote on membership and expulsion.

2. Membership: If a person with no living non-member descendants (kids, grandkids, great grandkids, etc...) petitions to be admitted into the group, he has to be voted in by ALL the representatives; if any object, then the person's bid for membership fails. The earliest age at which someone can petition to join is 18. The offspring of two members is automatically a member at birth.

3. Expulsion: a member is expelled from the group if and only if (1.) he is shown to be guilty of having a living non-member descendant; or (2.) the representatives vote unanimously to expel him from the group. Expelled members are not eligible for new membership.

4. Sub-Groups: A group can be partitioned into multiple subgroups of people committing to an even more selective genepool; this functions recursively, with only members of the group being eligible for membership in the sub-group.

5. Amendments: The charter can only be amended by unanimous consent of the representatives.
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Old November 22nd, 2009 #2
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Note that by being apolitical, this sidesteps the notion of founding an actual political nation of whites as white nationalists envision. Members are not required to live in the same community, let alone the same nation.

Also it sidesteps the issue of religious differences and cultural differences; it simply defines a population seedbed. Subgroupings (see point #4) give folks the flexibility to refine these genepools as they see fit.
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Old November 22nd, 2009 #3
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What you are describing is tribalism or the fancy term ethnicity, which gives birth to nationalism.
Nothing wrong with developing that concept amongst ourselves here on VNN, but outside the circle so to speak, refer to it as culture.

The US, Canada, Australia and the EU are empires, all artificial constructs, which are collapsing and will soon begin disintegrating back into the separate, independent, tribally based states European Whites have always lived in.

Eurepean history consists mainly of tribes becoming nations, becoming empires which then use religion or race to attempt to overcome the tribal differences, fail, then collapse as the taxbase is unable to cope with the freeloaders.

The empire's constituent states secede, revert back to tribal nations centred around cities or municipalities situated at river estuaries or deepwater harbours, and start all over again.

What is happening now is nothing new, it happens every couple centuries in Europe.
It's a well known process, and an unstoppable one.

In the US and EU, collapse of the tax base has already occurred, which has caused the global financial crisis.

This will in due course trigger a worldwide collapse of the remaining White empires which will be followed by a collapse of the non-White empires such as India, China, Indonesia, the Middle Eastern countries etc.

Thus focus upon secession.

Secession will initially begin/be brought about by religious groups, mainly Christians and Muslims.

This will then decentralise further into tribal groups, mainly split along denominational lines.

The word denomination has simply been substituted for the word tribe. The various religious denominations are in fact tribes.

Afterwards, the separate states will develop into separate countries and nations, become secular, nationalism will rise, empires will form and we start all over again.

It is tribalism in that generally members of a tribe procreate amongst themselves (until they conquer or are conquered by another tribe, which is where miscegenation begins).

But unlike tribes of the past, the focus here is exclusively on the genetic material of the members and how to best preserve or evolve this genepool.

Also, members do not need to share a common culture or language or nationality or history; it's a construct for eugenics/racial preservation, pure and simple.
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Old November 23rd, 2009 #4
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that's very interesting, George. Simple and elegant. just a "seedbed" concept.

I will entertain this idea, while tossing out my 2 obvious problems.

1. It will be transparently racist and immediately identified as such, so, so why not be more explicit and "strong."

2. To get followers/adherents, you need a "strong" doctrine that, in some sense, promises heaven for its adherents and Hell for everyone else. Even non-theistic racialism promises heaven for those who stay White, and Hell for those who descend into miscegenation.

And if you think about it, the Heaven v. Hell of non-theistic racialists is more realistic than the Christian Heaven/Hell. Look at Nicole Brown Simpson - she's rotting in Miscegenist Hell. Heidi Klum is still alive, but the physical, visible signs of her damnation are barely covered up by the latest developments in cosmetic technology.
 
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that's very interesting, George. Simple and elegant. just a "seedbed" concept.

I will entertain this idea, while tossing out my 2 obvious problems.

1. It will be transparently racist and immediately identified as such, so, so why not be more explicit and "strong."

2. To get followers/adherents, you need a "strong" doctrine that, in some sense, promises heaven for its adherents and Hell for everyone else. Even non-theistic racialism promises heaven for those who stay White, and Hell for those who descend into miscegenation.

And if you think about it, the Heaven v. Hell of non-theistic racialists is more realistic than the Christian Heaven/Hell. Look at Nicole Brown Simpson - she's rotting in Miscegenist Hell. Heidi Klum is still alive, but the physical, visible signs of her damnation are barely covered up by the latest developments in cosmetic technology.
Thanks for the response Kievsky. You have one of the most open and flexible minds here on VNN.

One way to make it stronger/more transcendent is to add the doctrine that some day the "Whitist" population (as defined by a particular group) should and will conquer all other peoples.

Still, the group is ultimately defined and grown by the members themselves, so they are truly the essence of the group - they tailor the doctrine as they see fit.

In fact, there may be two or more competing Whitist groups with very different ideas about what it means to be "white." Also, people of other races who feel strongly about preserving their race as they see it might also adopt a similar model. Or people who want to engage in aracial eugenics might also adopt it. Some group might form like the Bene Gesserit of Dune.
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I see this as the future because it doesn't depend on SHTF to create a Whitopia, but is something concrete that people who are very concerned about their race staying alive can do.

It doesn't require moving to the northwest (or wherever); in this age of online communities, it doesn't make sense to require an actual physical community.
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