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Old July 14th, 2012 #381
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The key to Golden Dawn's success is that it's integrated, or at least has an understanding, with the military, special forces, and police. Without that support, it would be easy to shut the party down.

In the US, there is no real linkage between White politics and the military. No equivalent to Michaloliakos has come forward - yet. An organic buildup by prison guard Chester Doles down in Georgia, to where he had hundreds of people coming to his meetings, including cops and prison guards (I believe, never having attended one of his meetings), was crushed by ZOG's federales after they spent years and millions of dollars. That's how threatened they are the whites will get some kind of official support, even if it's only at the county level.

If you have the police against you, every little thing you do can become a problem. If the police are for you, anything you do that could be problematic can be made to go away. Today the jews and leftists are integrated with the police, but Whites are not. So jews are able to lie and smear and terrorize at will, whereas Whites are harassed, discriminated against, set up and smeared wherever they initiate activism.
Absolutely, which is why cop-bashing by WNs needs to end. We need to infiltrate the police, we need to make friends with them, we need them on our side. Same for the military.

Otherwise we lose. Period.
 
Old July 14th, 2012 #382
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It really is inspiring to see their offensive, aggresive when need be, non-apologetic - approach, played outside the field of the standard political frame, and the success they are reaping. I thought they would become become hesitant, and as a tactical move, succumb to apologizing, or atleast somewhat distancing themselves, from the slaps in the tv-studio. But they have managed to march through it without a flinch and without hesitation, signaling strength, and might very well even have gained from it.

Things are going to get worse before they get any better, and the violence is already escalating in what might prove to be the eye of the storm - so really: why should a disrespectful, screaming, traitorous hag - whos own policy has brought Greece to the face of the abyss - and who even attacked him first, be immune to physical violence? Because she's a old lady? No, she of course should not, and really deserves worse. An old lady that IS deserving of respect and sympathy is the regular greek one, that is being terrorised by robberies, murders daily by filthy third-worlders, invading and polluting HER Athens, and making her native homeland ever unsafer and filthier - all the while bringing the economy and everything else along with it. Golden Dawn represents HER interest.
 
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Absolutely, which is why cop-bashing by WNs needs to end. We need to infiltrate the police, we need to make friends with them, we need them on our side. Same for the military.

Otherwise we lose. Period.
I disagree. The bashing needs to continue so as to convey the point that the whip won't always be in the cops' hands.
The cops/military need to concentrate their minds on that.
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I disagree. The bashing needs to continue so as to convey the point that the whip won't always be in the cops' hands.
The cops/military need to concentrate their minds on that.
Absolutely!
 
Old July 14th, 2012 #385
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Absolutely, which is why cop-bashing by WNs needs to end. We need to infiltrate the police, we need to make friends with them, we need them on our side. Same for the military.

Otherwise we lose. Period.
We don't need to stop bashing the bad ones, and most cops are bad, both in how they treat our people, our views, and how they swagger with undue self-importance now that they're part of the 'anti-terrorist security state. It's only a contingent of police in Greece that supports Golden Dawn at a high level. Nothing has been reported about broader police attitudes and voting patterns outside the special (riot) police. There is probably more than 7% support, since there seem to be a fair number of reports mentioning police not being responsive to invader requests, but it can't be said for sure just how far general police in Greece support GD.

In the US, we need military men and police to step forward in bulk and found parties or other groups to fight the good fight, and that doesn't mean patriotardism but overt racialism.
 
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greece is not allowed to send them home because of a european treaty "dublin 2".
on the other hand europe (again) does not blaming turkey for anything,perhaps because immigrants from pakistan syria iraq are coming to greece flying with their own feathers.
perhaps we should follow the italian example and shoot the immigrants in the borders.but then we have to face the european court.
now lets see immigrant;s social life in greece

1)raping
2)stealing
3)eating dogs
4)do not pay taxes

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1662892.html
 
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Council of Europe Human Rights to investigate Golden Dawn

By Katerina Nikolas
Jul 15, 2012

Athens - The Commissioner for Human Rights of the Council of Europe is to visit Athens to investigate allegations of attacks against immigrants and journalists by the far-right Golden Dawn.

Nils Mouiznieks, the Commissioner for Human Rights of the Council of Europe, told To Vima that the council is closely monitoring the situation in Greece. He will visit Athens to investigate any links between the far-right political party, which entered parliament for the first time in the June 17 elections, and the Greek police. Half of the Greek police force voted for Golden Dawn in the election.

Mr. Mouiznieks said "We received information that the Greek police is not doing its job in terms of racist crimes. We must thoroughly investigate any links of the Golden Dawn with police, as well as how to deal with racist violence by the police."

His remarks follow a report issued this week by Human Rights Watch (HRW) that Greek police are ignoring racist attacks on immigrants. Digital Journal reported that the HRW alleged collusion between the police and Golden Dawn members, though "there was no evidence that any attacks had been directed by the far-right party."

The Commissioner went on to say that the rise of the far-right is not unique to Greece but Golden Dawn "is more open to extremist and Nazi views than any other party in Europe." However, he acknowledged that Golden Dawn is a legitimate political party under Greek legislation as Article 29 Paragraph 1 of the Greek Constitution decrees.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/328610
 
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I disagree. The bashing needs to continue so as to convey the point that the whip won't always be in the cops' hands.
The cops/military need to concentrate their minds on that.
When East Germany fell in 1989 many of the ex STASI operators fled that regime as they FEARED the people, as these types or a Sick bunch of bastards.

The ex head was employed by this regime starting in 2001, hmm ?

Hey ! Is the regime going to start Violence against Golden Dawn, with their drones and Saper's entering Greece like has been done to other Nations ?

When they did their criminal hijinks in Georgia, Putin Sent the Russian Army after them, and they flew out of Georgia in the middle of the night, trembling.
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Old July 15th, 2012 #389
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We don't need to stop bashing the bad ones, and most cops are bad, both in how they treat our people, our views, and how they swagger with undue self-importance now that they're part of the 'anti-terrorist security state. It's only a contingent of police in Greece that supports Golden Dawn at a high level. Nothing has been reported about broader police attitudes and voting patterns outside the special (riot) police. There is probably more than 7% support, since there seem to be a fair number of reports mentioning police not being responsive to invader requests, but it can't be said for sure just how far general police in Greece support GD.

In the US, we need military men and police to step forward in bulk and found parties or other groups to fight the good fight, and that doesn't mean patriotardism but overt racialism.
Back when Malvo and his butt lover buddy were driving around Maryland and D.C. shooting 99% White's the media introduced US to Chief Moose.

Chief Moose who was chased out of Portland Oregon by both Blacks and Whites, but suddenly was in charge in Maryland told US it was WHITE racists in a White van doing this horror crime !

The local police where I live are brain washed dunce's "Sadly" but likely not all at least I hope.

So, back then three local peace officers from various agencies told me it was likely a Retired prison tower guard or a disgruntled White ex police officer.

WHO planted that Idea ? Hmm?

Any I told them flat when they were caught it would be US black mudslims count on it and they all disagreed. Sure enough I was right, but one was a Jamaican illegal alien who had a AR 15 ? Hmm?

Have these White hating murderer's gotten the death penalty yet ?

Itz redundant,but if these bastards had been White and the victims African you know the media would having been howling around the clock with riot attacks on Whites all around the regime etc.

My hope is that cops today are finally Waking up to the truth.

Those four cops at 8 AM in Seattle a year ago, were sitting at a table drinking coffee All Murdered when the African perp walked in the door and none of them drew a weapon of course as that would be Racist. They should have had their weapons laying the table rather than sitting holstered. RIP.
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Old July 15th, 2012 #390
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Council of Europe Human Rights to investigate Golden Dawn

By Katerina Nikolas
Jul 15, 2012

Athens - The Commissioner for Human Rights of the Council of Europe is to visit Athens to investigate allegations of attacks against immigrants and journalists by the far-right Golden Dawn.

Nils Mouiznieks, the Commissioner for Human Rights of the Council of Europe, told To Vima that the council is closely monitoring the situation in Greece. He will visit Athens to investigate any links between the far-right political party, which entered parliament for the first time in the June 17 elections, and the Greek police. Half of the Greek police force voted for Golden Dawn in the election.

Mr. Mouiznieks said "We received information that the Greek police is not doing its job in terms of racist crimes. We must thoroughly investigate any links of the Golden Dawn with police, as well as how to deal with racist violence by the police."

His remarks follow a report issued this week by Human Rights Watch (HRW) that Greek police are ignoring racist attacks on immigrants. Digital Journal reported that the HRW alleged collusion between the police and Golden Dawn members, though "there was no evidence that any attacks had been directed by the far-right party."

The Commissioner went on to say that the rise of the far-right is not unique to Greece but Golden Dawn "is more open to extremist and Nazi views than any other party in Europe." However, he acknowledged that Golden Dawn is a legitimate political party under Greek legislation as Article 29 Paragraph 1 of the Greek Constitution decrees.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/328610
Theres the answer to the police question in bold above.

Now, for some reason I get the feeling that Mr. Mouiznieks will be leaving Greece in a box. Just a hunch, but a powerful one.
 
Old July 15th, 2012 #392
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For Illegal Immigrants, Greek Border Offers a Back Door to Europe

Michael J. Kennedy | July 15, 2012


Asian immigrants take part in a rally against the extreme right Golden Dawn party, in Nikea, western Athens, on Thursday, July 5, 2012. Golden Dawn, whose members have been linked to a spate of attacks against immigrants, won nearly 7 percent of the vote in June 17 general elections. (AP Photo/Petros Giannakouris)


Alexandroupolis, Greece. At the train station here, an unshaven man with a weary look leaned against the brick wall of a building, taking in the morning sun.

He said that his name was Zulifoar Baht; that he was 38, from Pakistan; and that his train for Athens would not arrive until midafternoon. So there was nothing to do but wait, along with a dozen or so other illegal immigrants who had finally made it into Greece from Turkey, crossing one of the most porous borders in Europe.

The 126-mile border between Turkey, which is not in the European Union, and Greece, which is, has become the back door to the EU, making member countries ever more resentful as a tide of immigrants from the Middle East, South Asia and Africa continues to grow. Frontex, the EU’s border policing agency, estimated that a vast majority of the crossings in 2011 occurred at the Greece-Turkey border. Last year, Frontex said, more than 55,000 people crossed the border, a 17 percent rise from the year before.

The flow has raised tensions throughout Europe, to the point where the top French official responsible for immigration seriously suggested that a wall be built along the entire border. In Greece, 1 person in 20 is estimated to be here illegally, at a time when the country is sinking in debt, the far right is making political gains and instances of knife-wielding vigilantes taking out their frustrations on immigrants are becoming increasingly common.

Zarif Bakhtyri, 28, a wiry, streetwise playwright and aspiring film director, said he fled Afghanistan in 2006 after rankling the authorities by writing and directing a play that criticized polygamy. Bakhtyri’s story is a familiar one — making it to Greece, where he was jailed and then released, then moving along a route that led him to Italy, Norway, Sweden and back to Greece in 2010 because it was his point of entry.

He, like many others, has been trapped in Greece’s backlogged refugee system, the result, in part, of a longtime EU rule that stipulated an asylum petition must originate in the first country the immigrant entered. That changed in January 2011, when the European Court of Human Rights ruled that sending asylum seekers back to Greece could infringe on their fundamental rights because the Greek system had become so saturated and living conditions were so poor.

The increase in illegal immigrants in Greece has created support for the extreme-right Golden Dawn party, which has vowed to rid Greece of foreigners who enter the country illegally. Even the country’s mainstream parties have taken a harder line, though the Greek government is widely derided as inept in its efforts to police the border.

Athens is building a $7.3 million fence on the Turkish border to close off the short land crossing between the two countries, but few expect it to stem the flow. In rejecting a request from Greece to help pay for the fence, the European Commission described it as “pointless.”

The last hurdle to Greece is the Evros River Valley, beginning in the north at the Turkish city of Edirne, once the capital of the Ottoman Empire. To the south, on the Greek side, farms sometimes abut barbed-wire fencing, with signs warning of minefields along the dirt roads adjacent to cornfields. Villagers along the border talk of immigrants emerging from the river, wet and cold, as they begin their trek toward Athens.

But the last staging area for most immigrants is really Istanbul, the teeming Turkish city that is a magnet for those who have often walked for months through the wilds of Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran.

Turkey has come under criticism because of its liberal visa requirements, which make it easy for immigrants to legally enter the country and then move on. Citizens of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Syria and Iran, among many other nations, do not need a visa to enter the country.

Once in Turkey, they share crowded apartments and try to find work and save enough to pay smugglers for false papers and passage across the border.

In the cluttered cellar of a dingy Istanbul garment factory, Mustafa Mirzaie, 18, worked with his friend Hussein Rezaie to repair a sink. Both are from Afghanistan, a major source of refugees trying to make their way to Europe. Last winter, they walked for 24 hours over the frigid mountains of Iran into eastern Turkey. Now they do odd jobs to sustain themselves until moving on.

“It’s a difficult way, but it’s the only choice we have,” Mirzaie said. “I’ll work here and find a smuggler. We have no choice.”

Immigrants in Istanbul often find themselves stuck on a financial treadmill, barely able to meet their basic living expenses. One 17-year-old Afghan named Shamsollah lives and works in a basement sweatshop. He says he will need about $5,000 for the next stage of the journey, though he makes only about $250 a month — just enough to cover expenses.

“Istanbul is very big and very expensive,” Shamsollah said. “I have $1,500 now. But that is not enough for me. I don’t want to stay in Greece without money. There is no work in Greece.”

Sitting at an outdoor cafe recently in one of Istanbul’s poor neighborhoods, a smuggler named Mustafa talked about how he operated his business.

He takes 16 people at a time by van from Istanbul to the border, where his customers walk for an hour to the Evros River and then float across on rubber rafts. He charges $1,000 a person for the three-hour journey. He said he tells his clients not to fear being caught on the Greek side of the border.

“I say to my passengers don’t worry because they don’t want to deport them,” he said. “They just want to register you and take money from the United Nations.”

Sometimes, though, the journey is just too hard. There is a small but growing number of people who have made it to Greece, but returned to Turkey.

Earlier this year, on a windy day in Istanbul, Mustafa and Ali, two 17-year-old Afghan refugees, stood shivering in a park on the Marmara Sea. They had made it to Alexandroupolis but had run out of money. So they returned to Istanbul.

Their only possessions were the shoes, pants and T-shirts they wore. They had waited for hours for an Istanbul contact, but he had not shown up. Without papers, they were afraid even to leave the park and look for help.

And so they sat there, looking out on the sea, wondering what they would do next.

http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/inter...-europe/530583
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Europe urges Greece to probe legality of neo-Nazi party


Immigrants living in Greece protest in front of the Greek Parliament in Athens on December 3, 2011.

Europe’s Commissioner for Human Rights, Nils Muiznieks, has urged Greece to examine the legality of the country’s neo-Nazi party Golden Dawn, which has vowed to purge illegal migrants.


In an Interview with Greek newspaper, To Vima, Muiznieks labeled the Golden Dawn as the "most overtly extremist and Nazi party in Europe".

The party, which won 18 seats in the 300-member parliament in last month's election, has been accused of involvement in attacks on migrants and Greeks of foreign appearance.

The attacks on foreigners and refugees "are directly linked to the racist speeches spread" by the party, Muiznieks said.

Muiznieks added that the Council of Europe will also send a mission to Greece to assess if racism and xenophobia are on the rise in the country.

Human Rights Watch has also urged Athens to take urgent action to stem an alarming rise in attacks on Asian and African immigrants in the country, in a report called "Hate on the Streets".

The lack of an official state system for recording incidents of racist violence in Greece has long been observed and criticized by organizations like Amnesty International and the Greek Immigration Forum.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/07...neonazi-party/
 
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Golden Dawn Starts Kitchen Soups
By Areti Kotseli on July 16, 2012 in News



Far-right Parliament party Golden Dawn started kitchen soups providing hundreds of people with food in Ilion, Athens and other areas. The first day the kitchen soups were initiated, masses marched to the area demonstrating their unemployment cards or papers certificating their having large-families.

What sparked controversy among Greek media was the fact that the far-right party demanded that people allowed to take food had to be of exclusive Greek origin. Every immigrant, illegal or not, including Gypsies, is excluded from the kitchen soups; however, we can’t ignore that the 18 elected Golden Dawn MPs and their supporters don’t spend their time and money in cultural events and academic talks, but in actual efforts of social nature.

Each item in the food supply was bought from state money the party received in proportion to the acquired parliamentary seats (according to the legal framework for elected parties). Everything was bought from Greek firms and Greek producers exclusively. In a symbolic show, in this way, Golden Dawn MPs ‘return’ the Greek people the money they gave them with their vote.

A few days ago, the party also organized blood donation events for Greeks only. They put up posters all over Athens calling for volunteers to donate blood “for Greeks who need our help.” Once again they received negative comments from across the media and the medical community.

Regardless if someone (including the writer) does or does not accept the political views of Golden Dawn, their actions should be acknowledged as a slap in the face of the established political world and particularly those claiming to be on the side of the poor and unemployed.

http://greece.greekreporter.com/2012...kitchen-soups/
 
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Golden Dawn Asks Why Turkish Warship did not Fly Greek Flag

Monday, 16 July 2012

Greece's neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party presented its first Parliamentary question, asking why a Turkish warship did not fly the Greek flag during a visit to the port of Piraeus.

Golden Dawn deputies Nikolaus Kuzilos and Yiannis Lagos presented the question to Greek Foreign Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos, Yorgo Kırbaki of daily Hürriyet reported today.

The deputies asked why the Turkish frigate "Gediz" did not fly the Greek flag when it made a port call at Piraeus during a NATO visit on July 10. "Two warships – one French and one German – which were part of the NATO force, both flew the Greek flag when they docked at Piraeus. The Turkish frigate did not follow suit," the question presented by Golden Dawn stated.

Golden Dawn claimed that the incident was covered up to prevent a diplomatic confrontation with Turkey and asked what the Greek Foreign Ministry had done to counter the "provocation" by the Turkish warship. The party also asked "what plans the Greek foreign ministry had prepared to prevent a similar incident from taking place again."

Hürriyet has learned that Greece and Turkey share the practice of not flying each others' flags when their warships visit a port belonging to the other country.

http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/13...reek-flag.html
 
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Saturday, July 14, 2012

The Communist Party calls on clandestine immigrants ... riot!

Apparently the heat bother them there in Perissos otherwise not explained what he said the Secretary General Communist Party of Greece into a festival of immigrants held in Patissia. While other parties show their solidarity with the suffering Greeks hard the Communist Party of Greece chose to show his solidarity with the ... foreigners, who have practically invaded the country.



Among other Aleka Papariga speaking at the festival, expressed solidarity with the immigrants who were driven by "the most violent manner into refugees in exile because of war, hunger, dictatorships and fascist persecution" while stressing its opposition to racism, nationalism and xenophobia.

That is, the general secretary Communist Party of Greece, the first immigrants by the hundreds of thousands flocked to Greece in the early '90s after the fall of communism came due and "fascist dictatorships," but as hunger and persecution, and war has been. So when Aleka Papariga communism that prevailed in these countries was a "fascist and dictatorial regime."

But others said. The positions of the Communist Party of Greece such as considered by the Secretary General of the the party also stated:

"The need to fight for foreign workers, immigrants to act actively in trade unions, unemployed committees in a common struggle against the murderous attacks of the Nazi organizations, state and paramilitary repression mechanisms."

So in other words, even illegal immigrants are unemployed, and those who work have the right at the Communist Party of Greece to rise up against the police-because during the Communist Party is the police-state apparatus of repression and without specifying the size of this struggle. This illegal immigrant who invaded Greece may at any time be up in arms against the Greek state against the Greeks themselves in the stuff!

And this in the Communist Party of Greece is right!

In any other country in the world who have made such proposals would have the least prosecuted and brought to justice all those who say outrageous, but not here in place of absolute impunity ... and permanent aphasia.


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[communists side with invaders, against Greeks]

General Secretary of Greek Communist Party Asks for Intervention Against Golden Dawn
By Panos Kontogiannis on July 16, 2012 in Politics

“The Government as well as justice should intervene against the Golden Dawn political party,” Ms. Papariga said on Friday, during her speech during an immigrant festival. The General Secretariat of KKE (Greek Communist Party) underlined that it would be a major setback for the labor movement if the racist ideas against immigrants preponderate.

“The Government, justice and the police should act against the Golden Dawn that uses verbal and physical violence against immigrants. We cannot accept that Golden Dawn is the repression operator. This is nonnegotiable. This can be proven by the fact that, as we speak, they are planning the murder of hundreds of immigrants, an act that will be expanded in time against the Greek citizens that they claim to protect. No one should not doubt that,” Ms. Papariga said during her speech.

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It's nice to see those photos. I'm really inspired by Golden Dawn. They are firing on all cylinders. Once again, the Greeks lead the way.
 
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Nice, simple uniforms. Wear a black shirt or sweatshirt, we have some custom made, if you don't have one, just wear a black top.

Notice the age of the GD supporters - they look like they're younger, generally. This is one way you distinguish radicals from conservatives.

Take note, American radicals.

Unfortunately, the low IQ of too many race radicals in our land leads them to stupidly wear exactly the same clothes as the '30s Germans, as they are not at the mental level where they can abstract the general lesson from the specific example. We see plenty of this on this forum, in the Mama Tried thread, for one.

Wearing nazi gear is not a dealbreaker, in my opinion, but why not go the Golden Dawn route? It's really pretty simple. People should know at a glance that the person they're looking at is one of your guys. A color does that. Throw in a party name, symbol and slogan, front and back. Not much more than that is required to start with.
 
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