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Old November 17th, 2005 #1
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Default Johnny Cash 1st wife nonwhite???

I just seen a photo on the Biography Channel about Johnny Cash and his first wife(Vivian Liburto Dustin) appeared to be a Nigger or an Indian.

Ck the net revels no photos of her,only that her daughter is bitching how she was portrayed in the movie.
 
Old November 17th, 2005 #2
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i found one picture...

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs....0/COUNTY090103

about half way down on the right, there is a picture of Vivian and Johnny Cash
 
Old November 17th, 2005 #3
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"Johnny Cash" was supposedly part-Indian
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Old November 17th, 2005 #4
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That ain't no White women,I say old johnny "Crossed The Line" way back when before he learned to "Walk the Line".

Ya, the Indian crap may have some basic then.

That explains why, he probably was such a pill head all his life.

That picture of the Niggress won't come over at;





But,here's old Johnny.

 
Old November 17th, 2005 #5
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...But,here's old Johnny.
The 2nd time around, he probably wore a licence plate which he made himself

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Old November 17th, 2005 #6
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i found one picture...

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs....0/COUNTY090103

about half way down on the right, there is a picture of Vivian and Johnny Cash
I would rather have another picture before making a judgement. She does look like she could be a mulatta in that photo, assuming that her hair was straightened and dyed, but it is a very bad picture.

I wonder if they did such effective transformations of negro hair in the 40s and 50s, not only getting the kinks out but making it actually look like White people's hair. I don't think I ever saw that until recent years. I think that her face's colored appearance is due in large part to heavily applied, outlined lipstick.

It would have been a big scandal and it would have crippled his career if Johnny Cash was married to a colored woman and people knew about it. On the other hand, being part-Injun didn't have much of a stigma.

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Old November 17th, 2005 #7
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She is clearly at least part Indian;

Here are the parents of Vivian Liberto;
http://www.cashfamily.com/Trees/html...058.html#I0603

And here is some descendent tracing herself to the Liberto family on Tribal Pages, an Indian genealogy page

http://www1.tribalpages.com/tribe/br...rand=805706577
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Hello, I just started working on my family history this lasy week and I found you at Tribal Pages. You have a lot of work there., I hope it hasn`t all been by yourself ! I ran across some that a cousin of my mother`s had taken pretty far and given it to her. I decided to give it a shot. I thought that it would just end up being a frustration but instead it has become my newest addiction. Could be worse huh? I did a search at Tribal pages for 2 of my famil lines and you came up on both which gives me high hopes that with both coming up the chances of what you have is what I am looking for. First I need Liberto family beyond about 1900. My grandfather was Tom Liberto married to Irene Robinson. I also need just about anything on the Gaddis family, I haave very little to even go on. My great grandmother was Emily Gaddis (might have been her middle name) she married Jesse Carter. These are her Great grandparents but I know nothing of her parents. Emilys father`s father JR Gaddis died 1903 ` fathers mother GH Gaddis born 3-28-18?? ` mothers father George Gaddis died 3-17-1909 ` her mothers mother Hoshie Hamilton (might be American Indian ) died 2-18-1909 The only dates i have are incomplete. Then I have a small list of others but I don`t know where they actually connect. VE Gaddis HG Gaddis AE Gaddis NE Gaddis (this might be my great grandmother above Emily ) GL Gaddis FD Gaddis (A or M) H Gaddis Any help would be great, I hope it`s the ones you are related to . Brenda

NO big suprise judging by the picture provided
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She is clearly at least part Indian;
That's what I was thinking. But since you corrected her name to Liberto, it's apparent now that she was a so-called Hispanic, which opens a whole new can of worms, since the stigma attached to mixing with coloreds in the South somehow never extended to Hispanics, even though most of them (in the U.S.) have some Negro genes in their makeup. This is probably due in part to the fact that the straight, black hair of Injuns gets rid of nigger-wool after only two generations of mixing, eliminating one of the most conspicuous negroid features. It's possible that Johnny Cash didn't realize that he had married a colored woman.

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Old November 17th, 2005 #10
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That's what I was thinking. But since you corrected her name to Liberto, it's apparent now that she was a so-called Hispanic, which opens a whole new can of worms, since the stigma attached to mixing with coloreds in the South somehow never extended to Hispanics, even though most of them (in the U.S.) have some Negro genes in their makeup. This is probably due in part to the fact that the straight, black hair of Injuns gets rid of nigger-wool after only two generations of mixing, eliminating one of the most conspicuous negroid features. It's possible that Johnny Cash didn't realize that he had married a colored woman.

If I am not mistaken the name Liberto would be Italian in origin not Hispanic. I am not sure where this woman was from that he married. WE can't assume that she was from the South just because Cash was. However it is clear that she is at least partly non-White. I also wish to correct myself for thinking that the genealogy link had anything to do with Indians. I feel she is probably comes from a a dark Italian family with possible Negro or Hispanic mixture.
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Johnny Cash was clearly a part redskin.
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Johnny Cash was clearly a part redskin.
Nope.

He's not redskin at all.

He's a classic Scots-Irish hillbilly.

There's a reason hillbillys got the reputation they do. Not a whole hell of alot going on upstairs.

Jonny Trash, coke snortin' heroine junkie.

But he could carry a tune.
 
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Johnny Cash was clearly a part redskin.
Looks Injun to me.

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Nope.

He's not redskin at all.
He is clearly a race traitor so it doesn't matter.

Bitter Tears: Ballads of the American Indian
Johnny Cash



1. As Long As The Grass Shall Grow
2. Apache Tears
3. Custer
4. The Talking Leaves
5. The Ballad Of Ira Hayes
6. Drums
7. White Girl
8. The Vanishing Race

Listen to "White Girl" it is about race mixing. Click the link to listen.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/cl...631750-2718231

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=music
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Those are disgusting lyrics. From now on the next time I see a proud White man placing a Cash record on his player, I will let him in on the real scoop about this character. Thanks for that link.
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He's got the classic Injun high cheekbones.


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What's more disgusting than his race mixing song is his take on one of America's last american White heroes, George Armstrong Custer.

Some of said he could carry a tune, but if you listen to the guitar is just a mindless strumming that would make you want to kill your captor for playing such repetitive crap. The only reason he is touted as such an inspirational hero of the 20th century is because he took up alot of liberal causes, like the poor, prisoners' rights, & indians. He supported or sympathized with the indians that took over Alcatraz in the 1960's. He was a race mixer, a traitor and a liberal. It's the liberal jewish media that has made him what he is today.


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Looks Injun to me.



He is clearly a race traitor so it doesn't matter.

Bitter Tears: Ballads of the American Indian
Johnny Cash



1. As Long As The Grass Shall Grow
2. Apache Tears
3. Custer
4. The Talking Leaves
5. The Ballad Of Ira Hayes
6. Drums
7. White Girl
8. The Vanishing Race

Listen to "White Girl" it is about race mixing. Click the link to listen.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/cl...631750-2718231

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=music
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Garrord, Kentucky? I was up around your way about 2 weeks ago, on my way through London. I saw one single negro and he was exhibiting TNB. Shooting a compound bow right in the middle of town with cars and kids passing by. He was in his yard that was about 20 feet across it shooting the bow from the roof of his house. He was surrounded by stores and such. Other than the one Negro, it was a beautiful place and the people were really nice.

Good to see more people from Kentucky on this forum. We have about 5 now.


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So Vivian is a mistress. Her dad is Italian (hence Liberto surname) and her mama black (Irene Robinson) Johnny caught shit about it in the paper too. See this article.

https://nandor.net.nz/2017/07/17/bla...isible-colour/
 
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