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Golden Dawn: 'Greece belongs to Greeks. Long live victory!'

EU criticises the establishment's failure to deal with violence in a country suffering from effects of harsh budget cuts


Members and supporters of Golden Dawn chant the national anthem in front of the Greek parliament. Photograph: AFP/Getty Images



It wasn't just that their symbols looked like swastikas. Or that thousands of Greek flags filled the marble square beneath the Acropolis. Or that they were marking the 560th anniversary of the fall of Constantinople.

It was that there were so many of them. Angry men and angry women furiously screaming "Greece belongs to Greeks" in the heart of ancient Athens, as tourists – some befuddled, some shocked – looked on or fled at the sight of neo-Nazis coming to town.

"Now we are in the thousands," thundered Nikos Michaloliakos, the bespectacled mathematician who leads Greece's far-right Golden Dawn party. "Long live victory!"

Like the soldiers on whom they model themselves, the Greeks who subscribe to the ultra-nationalist, neo-fascist dogma of Golden Dawn are the first to say they are at war. This week, as Antonis Samaras's coalition government struggled to contain an escalating crisis over efforts to curb the extremists, it was they who appeared to be winning that war.

Amid a dramatic surge in attacks on immigrants blamed on the neo-Nazis, the debt-stricken country's ruling alliance has come under unprecedented pressure to crack down on racially motivated crimes. Legislation calling for a ban on parties perceived to incite such violence was proposed by prime minister Samaras's two junior leftist partners last month. Claiming that it would "victimise" Golden Dawn, which has 18 of the 300 MPs in parliament, the conservative groups last week rejected the bill as counterproductive. On Friday they put forward their own, less punitive law.

As parliament prepares to debate how best to apply legislation that will curb the party, – measures that have unexpectedly electrified the political scene – the far right is flourishing in the knowledge that, in a country reeling from the twin ills of austerity and despair, it is they who are in the ascendant. Since elections last year, Golden Dawn's appeal has almost doubled, with successive polls showing support of between 11% and 12% for the neo-fascists. Privately pollsters acknowledge that, as Greece's third-strongest and fastest-growing political force, the group could garner as much as 15% of support in local elections next year.

"It is wrong to believe that they are an ephemeral phenomenon," said Professor Dimitris Kerides, who teaches political science at Athens' Panteion University. "They are not only a product of this country's economic crisis. There is something sick in Greek society that Golden Dawn expresses," he added, referring to the rise in "Greek-only" blood banks and food rallies organised by the extremists. "They are here to stay. And as of 2014 they are going to be everywhere, with access to state resources because, for sure, they will win seats in municipal elections and, in some towns, place mayors."

Emboldened by success, the neo-Nazis have become ever more visible. Across Greece, party branches have been opened at a record pace, with pupils actively recruited in schools. In villages, black-clad supporters proudly sporting the party's insignia have proliferated, and in the southern Peloponnese, traditionally a stronghold of the right, Golden Dawn graffiti are scrawled over the roads and even rocks that dot the landscape of seaside resorts and archaeological sites.

Racially motivated violence has soared to such a degree that European officials blasted Greece for failing to take adequate action. Nils Muižnieks, the European commissioner for human rights, recently felt moved to point out that democracy was at risk in the birthplace of democracy because of "the upsurge in hate crime and a weak state response". It was vital, he said, that domestic and international anti-racism laws were enforced to crack down on violence that had been "linked to members or supporters, including parliamentarians, of the neo-Nazi political party Golden Dawn".

The Greek police and justice systems – both of which have been accused of colluding with the extremists – also had to be reformed, he said.

Indicative of the far right's growing political grip, the conservatives fear that legislation proposed by their leftwing partners will further alienate traditional voters who have migrated to Golden Dawn in disgust at the political establishment blamed for the country's crisis. The party's spectacular rise has been attributed, in part, to defections from the Greek orthodox church and the army.

"The whole thing is a mess," said Dimitris Psarras, an investigative journalist who has followed the group since its incipiency on the collapse of military rule in 1974. "Even if the law is passed, the message that is conveyed is that democracy is divided in knowing what to do with this neo-Nazi threat." For too long, said Psarras, Greeks had watched with complacency as the far-right group went from strength to strength.

Just as in Weimar Germany, when Hitler's National Socialist German Workers' party rose from obscurity, opponents have remained eerily quiet. Until last week, when the 92-year-old poet Nanos Valaoritis deplored Golden Dawn as "having all the characteristics of the party which led Germany to destruction", few in Greece's political or intellectual elite had been willing to take on the extremists.

The lack of public debate has added to the mystique of an organisation whose workings remain opaque. The local media appears to have missed the story of Golden Dawn. To this day, the party's financial backers and advisers remain shrouded in secrecy.

"Few in the establishment have openly addressed the danger of Golden Dawn and almost no one in the media has looked into it," what lies lamented Psarras. "Only now is it being taken seriously, but in my mind that could be too late."

Capitalising on the deep wells of antipathy towards mainstream politicians, the far right has begun targeting the middle class. In recent months Golden Dawn offices have appeared in affluent areas around Athens.

Greece's petit bourgeoisie of shopkeepers and small businessmen has, like civil servants, suffered most from crushing budget cuts demanded by the EU and IMF in return for emergency aid.

In an atmosphere thick with resentment and rage, immigrants from Asia and Africa have made easy scapegoats, with growing numbers of Greeks blaming foreigners for the country's record rate of unemployment – at over 27%, the worst in the eurozone.

"Anger always wants a target," said the prominent clinical psychologist, Dr Iphigenia Macri. "Golden Dawn provides a target, which is immigrants. It is targeting all that anger and sense of abuse that, collectively, Greek people feel at the hands of the government and state."

In a bid to keep passions at bay among a population that reached boiling point long ago, the government has desperately tried to convince Greeks that, three years after the onset of their worst crisis in modern times, there is "light at the end of the tunnel". Optimism has been propelled by economic progress.

However, the neo-Nazis' rise defies any notion that all is well. "The victorious party is Golden Dawn," said political commentator Nikos Xydakis. "Real life is very removed from the success story the government is selling. The neo-Nazis have succeeded not only in demystifying brutality; they are a reflection of the fear and poverty in this country."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...ence-eu-crisis
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Old June 2nd, 2013 #2903
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Golden Dawn: 'Greece belongs to Greeks. Long live victory!'

EU criticises the establishment's failure to deal with violence in a country suffering from effects of harsh budget cuts


Members and supporters of Golden Dawn chant the national anthem in front of the Greek parliament. Photograph: AFP/Getty Images



It wasn't just that their symbols looked like swastikas. Or that thousands of Greek flags filled the marble square beneath the Acropolis. Or that they were marking the 560th anniversary of the fall of Constantinople.

It was that there were so many of them. Angry men and angry women furiously screaming "Greece belongs to Greeks" in the heart of ancient Athens, as tourists – some befuddled, some shocked – looked on or fled at the sight of neo-Nazis coming to town.

"Now we are in the thousands," thundered Nikos Michaloliakos, the bespectacled mathematician who leads Greece's far-right Golden Dawn party. "Long live victory!"

Like the soldiers on whom they model themselves, the Greeks who subscribe to the ultra-nationalist, neo-fascist dogma of Golden Dawn are the first to say they are at war. This week, as Antonis Samaras's coalition government struggled to contain an escalating crisis over efforts to curb the extremists, it was they who appeared to be winning that war.

Amid a dramatic surge in attacks on immigrants blamed on the neo-Nazis, the debt-stricken country's ruling alliance has come under unprecedented pressure to crack down on racially motivated crimes. Legislation calling for a ban on parties perceived to incite such violence was proposed by prime minister Samaras's two junior leftist partners last month. Claiming that it would "victimise" Golden Dawn, which has 18 of the 300 MPs in parliament, the conservative groups last week rejected the bill as counterproductive. On Friday they put forward their own, less punitive law.

As parliament prepares to debate how best to apply legislation that will curb the party, – measures that have unexpectedly electrified the political scene – the far right is flourishing in the knowledge that, in a country reeling from the twin ills of austerity and despair, it is they who are in the ascendant. Since elections last year, Golden Dawn's appeal has almost doubled, with successive polls showing support of between 11% and 12% for the neo-fascists. Privately pollsters acknowledge that, as Greece's third-strongest and fastest-growing political force, the group could garner as much as 15% of support in local elections next year.

"It is wrong to believe that they are an ephemeral phenomenon," said Professor Dimitris Kerides, who teaches political science at Athens' Panteion University. "They are not only a product of this country's economic crisis. There is something sick in Greek society that Golden Dawn expresses," he added, referring to the rise in "Greek-only" blood banks and food rallies organised by the extremists. "They are here to stay. And as of 2014 they are going to be everywhere, with access to state resources because, for sure, they will win seats in municipal elections and, in some towns, place mayors."

Emboldened by success, the neo-Nazis have become ever more visible. Across Greece, party branches have been opened at a record pace, with pupils actively recruited in schools. In villages, black-clad supporters proudly sporting the party's insignia have proliferated, and in the southern Peloponnese, traditionally a stronghold of the right, Golden Dawn graffiti are scrawled over the roads and even rocks that dot the landscape of seaside resorts and archaeological sites.

Racially motivated violence has soared to such a degree that European officials blasted Greece for failing to take adequate action. Nils Muižnieks, the European commissioner for human rights, recently felt moved to point out that democracy was at risk in the birthplace of democracy because of "the upsurge in hate crime and a weak state response". It was vital, he said, that domestic and international anti-racism laws were enforced to crack down on violence that had been "linked to members or supporters, including parliamentarians, of the neo-Nazi political party Golden Dawn".

The Greek police and justice systems – both of which have been accused of colluding with the extremists – also had to be reformed, he said.

Indicative of the far right's growing political grip, the conservatives fear that legislation proposed by their leftwing partners will further alienate traditional voters who have migrated to Golden Dawn in disgust at the political establishment blamed for the country's crisis. The party's spectacular rise has been attributed, in part, to defections from the Greek orthodox church and the army.

"The whole thing is a mess," said Dimitris Psarras, an investigative journalist who has followed the group since its incipiency on the collapse of military rule in 1974. "Even if the law is passed, the message that is conveyed is that democracy is divided in knowing what to do with this neo-Nazi threat." For too long, said Psarras, Greeks had watched with complacency as the far-right group went from strength to strength.

Just as in Weimar Germany, when Hitler's National Socialist German Workers' party rose from obscurity, opponents have remained eerily quiet. Until last week, when the 92-year-old poet Nanos Valaoritis deplored Golden Dawn as "having all the characteristics of the party which led Germany to destruction", few in Greece's political or intellectual elite had been willing to take on the extremists.

The lack of public debate has added to the mystique of an organisation whose workings remain opaque. The local media appears to have missed the story of Golden Dawn. To this day, the party's financial backers and advisers remain shrouded in secrecy.

"Few in the establishment have openly addressed the danger of Golden Dawn and almost no one in the media has looked into it," what lies lamented Psarras. "Only now is it being taken seriously, but in my mind that could be too late."

Capitalising on the deep wells of antipathy towards mainstream politicians, the far right has begun targeting the middle class. In recent months Golden Dawn offices have appeared in affluent areas around Athens.

Greece's petit bourgeoisie of shopkeepers and small businessmen has, like civil servants, suffered most from crushing budget cuts demanded by the EU and IMF in return for emergency aid.

In an atmosphere thick with resentment and rage, immigrants from Asia and Africa have made easy scapegoats, with growing numbers of Greeks blaming foreigners for the country's record rate of unemployment – at over 27%, the worst in the eurozone.

"Anger always wants a target," said the prominent clinical psychologist, Dr Iphigenia Macri. "Golden Dawn provides a target, which is immigrants. It is targeting all that anger and sense of abuse that, collectively, Greek people feel at the hands of the government and state."

In a bid to keep passions at bay among a population that reached boiling point long ago, the government has desperately tried to convince Greeks that, three years after the onset of their worst crisis in modern times, there is "light at the end of the tunnel". Optimism has been propelled by economic progress.

However, the neo-Nazis' rise defies any notion that all is well. "The victorious party is Golden Dawn," said political commentator Nikos Xydakis. "Real life is very removed from the success story the government is selling. The neo-Nazis have succeeded not only in demystifying brutality; they are a reflection of the fear and poverty in this country."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...ence-eu-crisis
You know that most of the bold out, in the article is pure BS right? Not to mention the whole of it?
 
Old June 2nd, 2013 #2904
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You know that most of the bold out, in the article is pure BS right? Not to mention the whole of it?
Well there's a definite spin to it, and a lot of it is pure BS, but not everything per se.

If you got commentary on it, or any other article, do not hesitate to supply it in-text with your notes in color.

Btw, you are Greek yourself, correct? Do you live in Athens?
 
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The commie scum - not just in Greece but also abroad, as evidenced by the Guardian smear-piece - are nervous as hell. They can see that there's an ever-growing enraged resistance to their EU open borders/anti racism thuggery.

I love it.
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Golden Dawn is great, the first tangible "fight-back" we've seen, and they seem to be making good progress. They're not only winning hearts and minds by helping the man on the street but also have focused, strong members who are willing to kick some ass.

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The commie scum - not just in Greece but also abroad, as evidenced by the Guardian smear-piece - are nervous as hell. They can see that there's an ever-growing enraged resistance to their EU open borders/anti racism thuggery.

I love it.
These "anti-racist" commie types are always insane pricks. The same thing happens in the UK with "anti-racist" groups showing up in opposition to peaceful demonstrations about immigration issues, they start throwing rocks at the police or attacking people for no reason. Yet more proof that liberals have some kind of mental deficiency that causes them to mindlessly hate their own kind, which manifests in wanting excessive immigration and anything else that harms their own people.
 
Old June 2nd, 2013 #2908
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You know that most of the bold out, in the article is pure BS right? Not to mention the whole of it?

Actually most of the parts I highlighted are correct as they simply state what is easily verifiable fact.

Truth is that GD is growing rapidly, GD is getting bolder and more aggressive, GD is taking it to the streets, GD is modelling itslef on the NS Germans, and so on.

Of course the general tone of the article is negative alarmist and hostile to GD, no one denies that the spin and lies are there, next to the obvious truth which cannot be ignored.

If you are Greek please feel free to comment on some of the more obscure stuff that us non Greeks may have missed or not properly understood.
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..."Few in the establishment have openly addressed the danger of Golden Dawn and almost no one in the media has looked into it," what lies lamented Psarras. "Only now is it being taken seriously, but in my mind that could be too late."
This is a interesting with the left and especially radical left voices, and you can see the exact same shit spouted by groups outside Greece, often paired with even more ridiculous claims of the media being in cohort with Golden Dawn; covering up for them, exaggerating their support in polls, exaggerating the scope of their social work, giving them unreasonable amount of air time and print space, soft propaganda etc. etc. etc. All as the last defense of the bourgoise classes, of course. Really quite absurd stuff, even by their "standard", and said with a seemingly straight face.

I do instinctively question how many deep down inside believe this truly laughable shit though, but then again, often the main news sources that they rely on to form their world view are sect papers, and their critical thinking skills and sanity are already questionable, with them being marxists in the first place.

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I do instinctively question how many deep down inside believe this truly laughable shit...[/I]
I question if these types have any awareness of what is deep down inside because what lies there is by definition organic, and is the same awareness against which they rail politically.

Theirs is the struggle against the struggle for survival.
 
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I question if these types have any awareness of what is deep down inside because what lies there is by definition organic, and is the same awareness against which they rail politically.

Theirs is the struggle against the struggle for survival.
Yeah the common goyim dupes on the streets, the useful idiots.

This certainly doesn't apply to those financing and in top positions of leadership, who are jews.

They know the score better than most WN. For them it is a biological life and death struggle for survival.
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They [jews] know the score better than most WN. For them it is a biological life and death struggle for survival.
Prefiguring the need for a fictitious god-man is the even more pernicious abstraction of an immortal soul, which inherently usurps the role of race as the only real super-mortal aspect of individual existence.

Jesus is genocide.
 
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Prefiguring the need for a fictitious god-man is the even more pernicious abstraction of an immortal soul, which inherently usurps the role of race as the only real super-mortal aspect of individual existence.

Jesus is genocide.
Damn right



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Jamal Osman from British Channel 4 with another establishment ordered media hit piece on GD. Also includes nigger invader issuing threats to Greeks.

That said 9 minute mark is fucking hilarious. Can you imagine a lively debate like that on Faux or CNN? Pygmies

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Old June 3rd, 2013 #2915
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At the end of the video:

Reporter: - "You want to pack up your bags and go?"
Nigerian squatter - "Yes, because there is nothing left for us here."

Exactly correct!

"The sun goes up and the sun goes down", as the Israelis says relativizingly with a shrug of their shoulders when confronted with violent ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, and so it is also in Greece. The sun has been down allowing squatters to feast and squander in the ideological and political darkness, but those days are fast coming to an end - the Golden Dawn is coming.
 
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Black Metal Greek band and supporters of Golden Dawn Der Sturmer Live in London, England this coming Saturday Flyer in thread





http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=155766
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Members, not just supporters
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Time for a little song to break the monotony.

NS Black Metal, with strong old school Necro rock 'n' roll influence.


The Hammer falls on Zion

Awaken Immortal Gods of our Blood
Are pointing us the way to the Fight
Marching under the Hakenkreuz Flag
The Return of Aryan Heathen Might

The Iron Eagle has risen Again
To Sweep Europe as purifying Storm
Mud perish through "Night & Fog"
Jewish world "order" is crumbling down

Steel is always Stronger than gold
The Hammer Falls On Zion
Our bullets are your just reward
The Hammer Falls On Zion

United by Mighty bonds of Blood
A New Reich will Rise
Striking Fear in every coloured scum
Reclaiming what once was Ours

Feel our Thunder jewish parasite
All your hopes are turned to ashes
How does it feel "chosen" scum
Our weapons dripped in your filthy blood
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Greece for the Greek people.

All who want to force savages on Greece are literally warring on the Nations people, and do mean genocide for it.

Criminal owners of the Rubber hose media with their ranting's are criminals.
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Well there's a definite spin to it, and a lot of it is pure BS, but not everything per se.

If you got commentary on it, or any other article, do not hesitate to supply it in-text with your notes in color.

Btw, you are Greek yourself, correct? Do you live in Athens?
Yes I am Greek.

And no, not everything they say is but............. I like to think I know better than the writer of the article what GD stands for and where they lead to go and how.

I live in Anavissos. About 50 clicks from Athens.
 
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