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Old September 28th, 2013 #4701
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Government: "Apolyste freely, we will dismantle the anti-systemic Golden Dawn"
Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 22:25



"Neither nose" has not opened the announcement of lifting all limits on the layoff business announced a few hours ago by Labour Minister John Vroutsi.

Everyone watching the incredible case the arrests s Nationalist policies and at the same time announced that by the end of the year, the Minister of Labour will bring to Parliament a new institutional framework for collective redundancies to remove any 'typical' barriers established by law, as is the signature of the Minister of Labour for approval removals beyond the permissible limit!

A tremendous variation in labor relations that opens the way for new armies of unemployed (dozens of large companies waiting to go in mass layoffs as "do not go" as claimed by the owners).

This is classic political distraction that naturally has caught and left to sleep while ND and PASOK are rubbing their hands.

As pointed out by officials of the troika of the new framework will facilitate collective redundancies as happened these days to Halkis - as well as mergers and banks.

At the same time, PASOK rogue Tsohatzopoulos Mandela Tsoukatou and many others are complacent because "dismantled the criminal action of the Golden Dawn." They think the "river" of unemployed and impoverished will not drown them in elections ...

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Old September 28th, 2013 #4702
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Follow exactly the plan Voridis
Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 00:31



Reprint from the September 19 plan Maki Voridis and successive steps in the political persecution against the Golden Dawn has entered the final phase of Saturday morning.

Written by Antiochus

The role of the "punishment" of the Golden Dawn on behalf of the whole rotten political system Junta kleptocracy, has taken over the past few days (after meeting with occupation von Antonaki ... ) the "very" Makis Voridis to become the next possessory "Prime Minister" of the country. Behold favor Whose views "arguing within the government party" Voridis according to what brought on behalf of the journalist G. tangle in the evening bulletin channel Star:

"There is an adequate legal framework under which the Golden Dawn forms the infrastructure is to criminal acts and thus may be of prosecution for criminal association. The go even further and, I tell you one to one steps:

1) prosecutorial indictment,

2) transfer of proceedings in parliament,

3) waiver of all Members of the Golden Dawn,

4) the issuing arrest warrants

5) arrest of all members of the Golden Dawn,

6) and group their detention. "

Certainly, Mr. Makis ... the ax , he can said this yesterday, after the well-known incident, but had preplanned (himself or others ...) before that!

Here's what he said three days earlier canal fanatical communist Bobola MEGA, which - over the years - has caught ... pew: "Reached Golden Dawn supposedly these hard anti-communist, to taunted relatives of victims to behave in the way they all saw, knocking and roam to travologane people who have been victims in the wells. We are now at a point where i 'worth thought, beyond the need to exert a particular prosecution for the incident, but seeing no one does anymore collecting case series, namely crime, we face the systemic effect of a criminal organization " .

A first response to ILLEGAL and ANTISYNTAGMATIKES approaches for whom "arguing" ... the great democrat of ... constitutional arc from the 1,000,000-plus voters of the Golden Dawn: «H observance of the Constitution left to the patriotism of the Greeks, that they were entitled obliged to resist with every means against any attempts to overthrow by force. " That's all for now ...

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Old September 28th, 2013 #4703
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Fear not, my fellow Grecians. Our plot cannot fail.

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Update: Screenshots from Stormfront.org reveal a plot to move Golden Dawn to Leith
September 25, 2013 - America, Germany, Greece, Revolution News - Tagged: antifascist, Golden Dawn, Greece, KillahP, Leith, neo-nazi, UnityND - no comments

This screenshot is clearly from a thread discussing Craig Cobbs offering up of his purchased land in Leith to the Golden Dawn. As we saw in the first part of this post, a man in a golden dawn t-shirt was spotted in Leith, ND during a protest against Cobb and his attempted takeover of the town.




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In this screenshot, other users discuss Cobbs desire to bring in the golden dawn. Well it looks like they came, or at least sent gifts.

From our last post

A screenshot taken from a short film documenting last Sunday’s Leith, North Dakota protest against an attempted neo-nazi takeover reveals a man wearing a golden dawn (far right neo-nazi party of Greece) t-shirt and carrying a set of bag pipes. There isn’t evidence yet to know whether he is a member, or just a really big fan. What can be assessed is that he may know someone in the Golden Dawn, or at least be funding the golden dawn, to have a well made t-shirt. A more upsetting thought that comes to mind might be the possibility that fascists are coordinating these “uprisings” together in secret. What if the killing of Pavlos Fyssas by the Golden Dawn, fascist marches in Germany, and the attempted neo-nazi takeover of Leith were planned to occur within days of each other?
 
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Το νυν αντα να τρωει τη γη, τρωει τη γη θαρρκεται, μα παντα τζεινο τρωεται τζιαι τζεινο καταλλιεται.

Do you understand the dialect and what i wrote?

The main forces of greece have not yet openly join in this fight.

They sow storms, will reap hurricanes.
καταλαβαίνω και δέν καταλαβαίνω! Ποιοι είναι που τρώγουν αυτή τη φορά;
 
Old September 29th, 2013 #4705
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Old September 29th, 2013 #4706
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[news roundup from Golden Dawn's party site. Last we saw yesterday, GD's top men had been arrested, hours later they were charged with belonging to a criminal organization. ... Do you remember Herb Marcuse? A disgusting jew from Germany flushed by Hitler. Came over to the US. Became the 'father of the New Left.' He is the enunciator of the great principle driving such as the folk persecuting Golden Dawn. The principle is: any disagreement with the left is illegal. There's no room for the right, said Herb. Except in prison.]

Behold with what categories of trying to hit the Golden Dawn: The black shirts
Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 8:42



The "T-shirts of the Golden Dawn" evolve into a main exhibit accusations of "criminal organization of the party", says the findings of the Deputy Prosecutor of the Supreme Court Ch Vourlioti while being peppered by expressions such as "pyramid structure" Nazi authority Führerprinzip (Principle Leader's). 'hard core' etc. ridiculous and fanciful! "According to the findings, the Golden Dawn acting as a criminal organization from its inception, even in 1987 until today and was involved in the commission of felonies based Nazi authority Führerprinzip (the Lead)." Ethnikismos.net: The leader's role is attributed to Nikos Michaloliakos, who "knew, coordinated, organized" everything in an organization that had "conspiratorial rules and nationwide action" completely arbitrary! Mr. Vourliotis the same logic thinks lieutenant of "criminal organization" is an MP Christos Pappas. The hard core part in the outcome, and Members Elias Panayiotaros Elias Kasidiaris, John Hare and Nikos Michos. Led this work "nuclear actions", as stated in the case of T.O Nice, where he was arrested George Patelis. In conclusion 10 mentioned briefly briefs felony nature, that have been associated and connected with the Golden Dawn. Read more at Ethnikismos.net

It's one of the famous crimes: rape, murder, armed robbery...wearing a black tshirt.

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Prosecutions did not bend the Nationalists!
Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 14:46



Surrendered voluntarily Justice, like all Synagonites, and Compete, Christos Pappas, proving once again that the Nationalists do not bend under prosecution or pressure. Certainly parrots system began immediately and authority propaganda going as far as to make allusion to a "Nazi" salute on the occasion of a simple shrug of his hand match. Let's go directly to conceive Samaras for the photo below.



The Golden Dawn is not a criminal organization. Criminal organizations are parties kleptocracy we fight and parrots the system cover them. Truth will shine!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=YWX6PhxflE0

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Confession SW: Political Persecution of Greek nationalism of the Status of Memoranda!
Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 15:45



In cynical assumption POLICY ENFORCEMENT People's Nationalist Movement proceeded homeland mongering faction Southwest, through the Ch Markogiannaki. The latter, guest telecast "major" channel whose journalists enjoy the privilege of immunity-since it is above the Law-outspoken that "the issue is not legal, the issue is purely political"! Journalists, celebrator of pasokikis juggernaut that stole the Greece, anyhow attempted to disprove the statement Markogiannaki correcting him. "Lord Markogiannaki is not policy, it is legal," roared the reporter until the former minister of SW to understand the blunder. It is clear that the Zionist centers abroad ordered the persecution of the People's Association-Golden Dawn, which command executed with great zeal especially the "patriots" of the New Republic. At the same time, while the journalists the same TV station continues to make a mockery of the Greek Justice and is arrested and have been sued by the Golden Dawn, with the impudence of a thousand monkeys Markogiannakis said: "People were feeling daring. Think they are above and beyond the law "! What is the status of the memoranda: system illegal and anti-national!

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Zionist junta outside instruction from September 28, 2013
Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 13:07



Through this flood of publications of foreign and domestic press about the current illegal arrest members of our movement, under the pretext of some unfounded allegations based primarily on perjury paid agents, the council amerikanoevraiko AJC, through its Executive Director, David Harris (with whom ... o - submissive international usurers - von Tony met again a few days in New York) took the following malicious statement: "The message sent out by the Greek government is clear: the extreme forces of violence, a threat to society and can not be tolerated" ("The message is clear from the Greek government that the forces of violent extremism are a threat to society and will not be tolerated. ") Them to no longer have no Greek no doubt about who pull the strings on the world stage. Having as they think, finished with the Golden Dawn, can now fully implement the plan enslavement of Greeks under the doctrine Kissinger. Also Zionists can now - as they think - overtly to continue the charitable work "democratization" of all Nations resist. The Greek Nationalists do not bend and nothing scares us. We keep modern Thermopylae of our idea towards rottenness of Zionism. Greeks resist! Long live Greece - Long live the Golden Dawn - Long live our leader!

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The system pursues the Golden Dawn because she is afraid the rapid rise of up to 20%
Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 11:52



After 40 years of stakes, corruption and predatory sovereignty, the Greek state made arrests active politicians and party leader. Why is the Golden Dawn pays the bride and prosecuted by the law? Course not for a murder that was not the first in the polity or why something turned over benches with illegal goods smuggling. The system plays all-in after all the inside knew that at the end of summer would arrive perhaps surpass 20% (!). Everyone knew that there was no way in any election to form a government only with cooperation SW / SYRIZA / PASOK. In this case opposition was the Golden Dawn! The "constitutional" rainbow not like this course because it was the beginning of the end and waited for the opportunity that was given to the murder of P. Fyssas. From that day with an incredible coordination was first seen in this country and spearheaded the "democratic" news undertook to finish the Nationalist People's Movement. Bear in mind that the same press who defend with such passion on a daily basis Memoranda and harsh austerity measures against the people. At the same time almost all constitutionalists say that the arrests are the limits of legality are being held by a government initiative, not based on proper judicial justice process, so talking about political persecution. Yes the Golden Dawn is a nationalist party that voted democratically than 500,000 of our fellow citizens and only they are responsible to make outside the House, or to give further strength. The Republic also has no dead ends. Right? The coalition opened of worms after the system decided to punish those most afraid of and not really responsible, who destroyed our country. The Greek is now suspicious and reactionary and not swallow that give him so unchewed. Especially when after the thousands of felonies (financial and otherwise) that have been committed in our country by politicians and political parties over the years who enjoy the immunity establishment.

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Credits Mouiznieks the coalition for the prosecution in the Golden Dawn
Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 10:17



The professional sycophant Greece Strikes Again

"Huge step in the strengthening of law and democracy in Greece" featured the commissioner of the Council of Europe Commissioner for Human Rights, Neil Mouiznieks, persecution by the government of the Golden Dawn. Details Statement of the European Commission is as follows: "I welcome the action of the Greek government against the Golden Dawn. This is a huge step towards the strengthening of law and democracy in Greece and I hope it will be a decisive step to put an end to the impunity of the criminal action of the Golden Dawn. I call on the Greek authorities to continue to act with determination to implement both the criminal law and the anti-racist legislation to ensure full protection to immigrants who were the target of violence in the Golden Dawn." The appropriate response to Mr Mouiznieks had given the Chief of the Golden Dawn from the floor of homage and remembrance for the fallen three Greek officers Imia. Publish it as such once again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=A11szVx5NQo

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The President of ELAM Christos Christou answers about the war, accepted by the Nationalists - VIDEO
Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 17:12

The chairman of the National People's Front (E.LA.M.), Christos Christou, central newscast SIGMA, "Breakthroughs in Events" - 09/28/13 - responds to war, accepted by the Nationalists in the last hours after the arrests of leaders, members, officers and members of the People's Association Golden Dawn.

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Old September 29th, 2013 #4707
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The Voice of the People: Messages - Letters: Sunday, September 29, 2013
Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 1:39

From the first day I entered the Golden Dawn in parliament see a war against the Nationalists. They were looking for ways to make their outside Nationalists, not the manifest their dirt. With current events system xemprostiastike. The Greece and Hellenism needs the Golden Dawn to see better days. FIRMLY brave or bend in their ridiculously terrorism.

GK



Gushing developments! Bombarding viewers with "warnings" bankrupt channels. Enterprise anti-terrorism with exuberant jeep, full face, automatic weapons and at the same time humiliating the institution of a Member. What institutional though? Him which all parties over decades failed to represent worthily while only consistently achieved was the subjugation of an entire people. Today heard slogans like "Long live Greece" and "eat Memorandum for dinner!" What truer a collapsing political system; What's more relentless than the advent of the Troika and the pressures that this exercise? How many more questions than they themselves Constitutionalists whether due process was followed?

All they tried to cover way Maestra but what if they are questions the truth will shine, ideas are not imprisoned and the "people know".

UNSC



There is no greater mockery of what we all saw today is! The parties brought into this mess our country erected across plot and arrested a legal political party! The different political views and love for the country is something that scares them! HEADS ARE ALL HERE! HERE AND WE WILL CONTINUE UNTIL THE RELEASE OF THE COUNTRY FROM PRODOTES AND TOKOGLYFOUS! LONG LIVE THE GOLDEN DAWN! LONG LIVE THE HEAD! Zito VICTORY !

WB



I wish I knew you there in the Golden Dawn is really how much your power. And your dynamic. There is no neighborhood, no building (excluding the region of Ekalis and mental) that may not have even 10% of residents defunct Chrysafgites. And I say defunct because others are too old to help actively, others fear that someone pimp their "give" to the boss and lose their job (and in these times you do not find a job if you're not beggarly downtrodden economic-politico immigrant or gas station ), others just that I know personally and have no money to get the ticket of 1.40 E. After so many wars that make the Golden Dawn can not say publicly that I support. I fear for my life from the far-left (constantly remind us that they have no respect for human life from the N17 until MARFIN and beaten almost to death ordinary citizens), I fear for my property, but I will vote GOLDEN DAWN just make the place. To be able to say something to my children and my grandchildren the day after that I did for the country. I wish I knew then that 7%, 9%, 13% even a virtual one, is shorn sip. Even 17% would overcome even with that he has done, because it is simply a provocation and the world knows. The winners will be overdoing it with the wings and in the glory of him who strives for altars and outbreaks, for Faith and Fatherland. As another 300 came time for our battle. The first skirmishes began with the events on Fyssas. The time of the final conflict is near, and we are sure that we will be winners. We lit the torch We will inject the Greek light to the world. Until Victory So Long live Long live Greece.

PG



Continue the fight we are with you. You are our only hope for our survival as a NATION. With a smile and with temperance and purity that distinguishes us we have nothing to fear. In the end everyone will understand that the pure GREEKS are more than lamogia. Many gar are called, few are chosen not. Thank you

Babis K.



To inform dear friend - YES you who read me now - that we SUPPORTERS of GOLDEN DAWN, we did not "behind" these days of "closed shells at us," as they say! Just do not want to exacerbate the spirits as they would like the state to hijacked the event and the "play protector" and well in Greece - that will save Greece from humorous k.al.! The Savior of Greece ........ "State"! (Do not puke!) Information is how: That Time "shout" Chief, we all SYSOMOI (FORMER Left, Right, PASOK k.al.), we'll be there! THESE! Know what unites us ALL that we can not understand all the other idiots (because the idiots going);;;; The GREECE!! The FLAG! HOPE! THE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN! WE ARE STRONGER! WE ARE READY! and ........... COME! The AN despair EFP gladden more ... We came!

GA



The wandering and ethnoprodosia in all its glory! Now play their last cards. The three and counting thousands of Greeks who have committed suicide in recent years do not constitute emotive subject? Its not befitting prosecutorial investigations to find the culprits? Since when holding Greek flag is proof of participation in a criminal organization? Heard that they will start searching here in Crete , says those who make their balconies the Greek flag now with the national holiday that comes ... I live to see that too! With courage and strength we need to continue, compatriots, fellow, Greeks! We owe if anything to our children.

KA



Good morning, I'm not a fan of your movement, nor enemy, I just want to say a big thank you yet Greeks to Greece, continue your struggle, Greece belongs to the Greeks.

Theodore.



Many wish to continue even for a few days this phenomenal television immoral war against the Golden Dawn, because already people are starting to wake up and understand very well what happens ... Even those who did not support the Golden Dawn now have psylliastei that to oppose her with such rage all politicians, all journalists, all channels, something happens ... And what happens is that they fear the rapid dimoskopiki the rise and will mark their own political end and just punishment for the destruction and betrayal of their homeland. Fraudsters great ones politicians fear. Not for the "fascist danger," which supposedly comes in the Golden Dawn, but for their political positions will lose with the rise of the Golden Dawn. We want to see and fair punishment. Not another Trial of the Six, but in prisons. We do not want bloodshed. But to enter the prison or work manually, guarded, producing work beneficial to society. Eg to see the various Tsochatzopoulos with a broom in hand to sweep the streets of Athens, working FREE cleanliness of Athens. And the night in prison again. If it continues for another week to drown us the cesspool of channels, it is certain that the Golden Dawn will go up even more in the minds of the people, not moron, as appears to him as video stores, but XYPNIOS, and you'll understand why the mudslinging when it come to the good time of the polls ... Unless you act, because ... Fascist danger to abolish elections ... yperdimokrates scammers! Or unless you fill the polling stations of turbans and robes of "Hellenized" voters treasonous arc AS IN PREVIOUS ELECTIONS. In any case I think the will of the Greek people to get rid of the rogue traitors politicians who destroyed him, will win!

With value A.

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[controlled media reports continue to flow thick and fast]

Greek neo-Nazi leader arrested after stabbing
Express.co.uk-4 minutes ago
Although Golden Dawn vehemently denied any role in the rapper's killing, ordinary Greeks expressed their revulsion by taking to the streets across the country ...

Greece: Golden Dawn's Pappas arrested
BBC News-40 minutes ago
A politician from Greece's far-right Golden Dawn party has been arrested after handing himself into police in Athens. Christos Pappas is the sixth politician from ...

Leader of Greece's Far-Right Golden Dawn Party Arrested
Latin American Herald Tribune-1 hour ago
ATHENS – The leader of Greece's Golden Dawn, Nikos Michaloliakos, and other senior members of that far-right party were arrested early Saturday by police in ...

Greek Neo-Nazi Party Arrests Follow High-Profile Murder
WUFT-1 hour ago
Greek police arrested the leader of the neo-fascist Golden Dawn party Saturday on charges of establishing a criminal organization. The police also issued ...

Greek far-right leader charged
Express.co.uk-1 hour ago
Greek far-right leader charged. The leader of Greece's extreme-right Golden Dawn party and four other of its parliamentarians have been formally charged with ...

Golden Dawn official hands himself in after crackdown on Greek far ...
The Times (subscription)-1 hour ago
The second-in-command of Greece's Golden Dawn turned himself into police today as an unprecedented crackdown on the neo-fascist party continued. Christos ...

Golden Dawn politicians to enter pleas on Tuesday
ITV News-1 hour ago
The leader of Greece's far-right Golden Dawn party and four more of its politicians will make their pleas against charges of belonging to a criminal organisation ...

Greece's neo-Nazi party MPs face possible criminal charges
Rappler-1 hour ago
ATHENS, Greece – The head of Greece's neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party and 4 fellow lawmakers were facing charges of belonging to a criminal organization ...

Greek far-right lawmakers to make pleas against criminal charges ...
MSN Money-2 hours ago
ATHENS, Sept 29 (Reuters) - The leader of Greece's far-right Golden Dawn party and four more of its lawmakers will appear in court on Tuesday to enter pleas ...

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Old September 29th, 2013 #4709
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Greek neo-Nazi leader arrested after stabbing

THE leader of the Greek neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party was arrested yesterday in a dramatic police crackdown after a fatal stabbing.

By: Hilary Douglas
Sun, September 29, 2013

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Nikos Michaloliakos has been charged with forming a criminal organisation [REUTERS]
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Nikos Michaloliakos, party spokesman Ilias Kassidiaris and deputy Ilias Panayiotaros were among 16 party members held in a counter-terrorism operation. Warrants have been issued for a further 19. Michaloliakos was charged with forming a criminal organisation. The crackdown came 11 days after the murder of anti-racism rapper Pavlos Fyssas, known as Killah P. The Greek government was finally forced to act after months of accusations that they were not tackling the far-Right party. Although Golden Dawn vehemently denied any role in the rapper’s killing, ordinary Greeks expressed their revulsion by taking to the streets across the country last week. In Athens protesters clashed with police as they tried to march on the party’s offices. Get that? Golden Dawn are dangerous, hate-filled, far-right, ultra-nationalist extremists. Those opposed to them are "ordinary Greeks."

Golden Dawn, whose logo resembles the swastika and whose members are prone to giving Nazi salutes and dress head to toe in black, has enjoyed a meteoric rise in recent years. Polls show it is now the third most powerful political force in Greece after being catapulted into parliament last year with 18 MPs. It promotes itself as the only force willing to take on Greece’s “rotten establishment” . Golden Dawn has been blamed for violent attacks on immigrants but that had seemed to increase its popularity. Amid rumours of backing from wealthy shipowners, it has opened offices across the country.
Spokesman Kassidiaris threatened last week that it would establish cells in “every corner of the world, or wherever there are Greeks”. Its links with British neo-Nazis date back to the Eighties and it is has begun to spread to Germany, Australia, Canada and the US.

Five MPs arrested yesterday will keep their parliamentary seats unless they are convicted of a crime. The rest of the neo-Nazis rounded up were rank-and-file members, many thought to have been involved in a recent spate of attacks on immigrants. Golden Dawn expressed outrage over the crackdown in a text message to journalists. It read: “We call upon everyone to support our moral and just struggle against the corrupt system! Everyone come to our offices!” A later text message called for supporters to head to police headquarters “with calm and order”. About 30 people gathered. There are signs that Golden Dawn’s ideology may not travel well. The party’s attempts to establish a Canadian office met with a lukewarm reception. Father Lambros Kamperidis, a Greek Orthodox priest living in Montreal, said: “Their philosophy and ideology does not appeal to Greeks living here. The church is always the enemy of nationalists because the church, like that other jewish creation, communism, is internationalist. “We all got scared when we saw they were giving a press conference.


Protesters hold a banner featuring the anti-fascist musician Killah P

“As we heard their deplorable views they were condemned by community leaders and the Church.” In reference to Golden Dawn’s tactic of trying to recruit members by tapping into anti-immigration resentment, Father Kamperidis said: “We are all immigrants in Canada. “The really bad thing is that in opening here it gives the impression, to people who don’t know the situation, that it is supported by a lot of Greeks, which is not the case. “It has hurt Greece, the Greek cause, and Greeks’ reputation more than anything else.” In Greece, tensions continue to rise. In an attempt to reassure the public, government spokesman Simos Kedikoglou told reporters: “Democracy can protect itself. Justice will do its job.” The crackdown began last week with the arrest of a policeman said by his colleagues to also be working as a bodyguard for the party, during a raid on its offices in the western town of Agrinio. Christos Fotopoulos, head of the Greek association of police staff, said: “Over the last three years there are many incidents in which fellow officers tolerated violence by Golden Dawn members.”

Per Linder's Law, the comments, as nearly always, are both more instructive as to what's going on, and, another way of putting the same thing, to the right of the writer and editor and controlled media source. There is a GIANT DISCONNECT between the people and the government, no matter which country you're talking about. And the media, make no mistake about it, are part of the governing elite.

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djrh1
4:06pm on Sunday, 29th September 2013

Golden Dawn are politically like UKIP. They want out of the EU and an end to immigration and Greeks put first. I have been to Athens last year and spoke to a few Greek traders. Many were begging tourists to buy something and GD blame their lack of business on immigrant traders and so they smashed up immigrants market stalls. GD MPs give a third of their pay to a fund to pay for food for struggling Greeks. I saw magazines with covers mocking Merkel as a Nazi so don't call GD Nazis. They despise Germany and blame them for their current state, rightly or wrongly. GD have a lot of support in Greece but that shouldn't mean that the party leader should be arrested for the crime of one of his voters. The EU, remember forced out the Greek PM for daring to propose a referendum and replaced him with an EU compliant PM. Greece is fed up of it's Marxist EU loving politicians and the arrest of GD leaders could ignite the fire that brings them down if they are imprisoned.The EU should be terminated



littlerichie
2:48pm on Sunday, 29th September 2013

DEMOCRACY MY AR**...arresting LEGITIMATE voted for representatives...PLEASE DO NOT GIVE ME THAT CRAP THAT EUROPE IS A DEMOCRATIC PLACE...RUN BY "DECENT" POLITICIANS...NO SUCH THING.



mickyfull
11:20am on Sunday, 29th September 2013

The Greek authorities have been trying for years to ban the Golden Dawn because they fear loosing their Marxist control over the country. They have continuously tried to blame the party for immigrant on immigrant attacks among other crimes. The man who was murdered was killed in a football related attack it was nothing to do with the Golden Dawn. I don't know if he was a party supporter or the police have fraudulently linked him but if this was someone who supported the Conservatives killed someone who supports Labour would Cameron be arrested? Golden Dawn have had their offices bombed and elderly supporters beaten to a pulp but the msm say nothing. They were banned for distributing food to starving Greeks. These arrests are totally political and are on par with the USSR. Everyone should be shocked by these politically motivated arrests.

First they came for the Golden Dawn, I did nothing.

Then they came for UKIP, I did nothing.

The EU is the new USSR.



Notacommie
8:47am on Sunday, 29th September 2013

Greece is run by an evil Mafia-style government. The Golden Dawners should be released at once.



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1:58am on Sunday, 29th September 2013

The supression has started , all over the E U freedom of speech is dying , it's no different here ......anyone who speaks out now is either mocked or slime,d by the Media who seem to be in the pockets of the Westminster elite..........They all live in the same Ivory tower and the ordinary public are irrelevant ..............Everybody who feels this way , please keep voting UKIP ......with your help we will get there in the end and defeat these B**t***s ...

How the fuck can it be a free media when all six "people's comments" are 180-degrees opposed to what the writer is saying? And ALL writers say the same thing? How can it be that the media are so completely opposed to what most people think? Just think about how absolutely bizarre that is. To the media, you're only normal if you side with criminals and illegal aliens. You are a far-rightist if you don't support those classes.

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Golden Dawn suspect stays defiant

A Greek lawmaker sought by police surrendered on Sunday, bringing to six the number of legislators from the extreme-right Golden Dawn party now in custody and accused of being members of a criminal organisation with intent to commit crimes.

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The government crackdown on the fiercely anti-immigrant party marks the first time since 1974 that sitting members of a Greek Parliament have been arrested. The arrests underline the government's efforts to stifle Golden Dawn, which has been increasingly on the defensive since the September 17 fatal stabbing of a Greek man blamed on a Golden Dawn supporter. Thirteen Golden Dawn members and two police officers also have been taken into custody and arrest warrants issued for 11 other suspects who remain at large, officials said. As he turned himself in at police headquarters in Athens on Sunday, Christos Pappas - a lawmaker described by prosecutors as the Golden Dawn's No 2 official - condemned the crackdown on his party and the painful austerity measures that have been imposed during the bailout of Greece's battered economy. Several Greek TV channels broadcast his arrival live, showing him leaving a taxi, ducking under the cordon surrounding the building and turning to the cameras. "I present myself voluntarily. I have nothing to hide, nothing to fear. The occupation government of the bailout deals has begun unprecedented political persecutions, using so-called independent justice. Nationalism will prevail. Golden Dawn will survive," he said. Pappas then shouted, "Hail Golden Dawn!" and waved as he entered the building. Five other legislators from the party have been in custody there since Saturday, including Golden Dawn leader Nikos Michaloliakos. They were formally charged with membership in a criminal organisation with intent to commit crimes, and Pappas will be also. They are scheduled to appear before a magistrate on Tuesday. Given the seriousness of the charge they face, the arrested Golden Dawn suspects are expected to be transferred to a prison as they await trial. However, the jailed lawmakers will remain members of parliament and only lose their seats if they are convicted or resign. The government said on Sunday that it plans to introduce legislation on Monday aimed at cutting all state funding to the Golden Dawn party, which is slated to receive more than 873,000 euro (Ł731,000) in 2013.

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Sunrise arrests for Golden Dawn: Greek police detain Neo-Nazi MP Nikos Michaloliakos and 16 others

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Sunday 29 September 2013



The leader of Greece's third most popular political party was led away in handcuffs yesterday, as counterterror police launched a series of raids against the hierarchy of an extreme-right group whose popularity has been fuelled by the financial crisis. Nikos Michaloliakos, general secretary of the Golden Dawn party, faces charges of leading a criminal organisation whose offences allegedly include physical assaults against immigrants, blackmail and money-laundering. In what was seen as a tactical move to hamstring the party's command and rising popularity in a country plagued by an economic crisis, Mr Michaloliakos and his top deputies were the first to be arrested in the early hours of the morning. Some 35 warrants were issued against party members, and 17 arrested on charges of forming a "criminal organisation". "What you are doing is not right," Mr Michaloliakos protested, as he was led away from his Athens home, which also reportedly contained guns. "The truth will shine." The Prime Minister, Antonis Samaras, was asked for a reaction to the Golden Dawn arrests and its implications for Greek politics. "Justice, stability, no elections," he said, as he hurried from his office yesterday. The arrests were the first time since 1974 that a party head and MPs had been detained. But they will retain their seats unless convicted of a crime. Of the six lawmakers targeted, only one remained at large last night. The arrests were described by government spokesman Simos Kedikoglou as an unprecedented and "dynamic response to a neo-Nazi organisation". "We have succeeded in stripping them of their political cover and dealt with them as what they really are, a criminal organisation," he said.

Meanwhile, hundreds of Golden Dawn supporters, most wearing black or blue T-shirts, assembled outside the Athens police headquarters chanting the party slogan "Blood, Honour, Golden Dawn" and carrying Greek flags. One supporter fired a flash bomb at the building over the riot police. Among those arrested was the Golden Dawn party spokesman, Ilias Kasidiaris, who made the news last year for slapping a left-wing politician and throwing water over another during a live TV debate. He managed to evade an arrest warrant for the alleged assaults by hiding from police and went on to sue both women for defamation. A once marginal organisation with neo-Nazi roots, Golden Dawn entered parliament for the first time in May last year, capitalising on Greece's deep financial crisis, rising crime and anti-immigrant sentiment, to win 18 seats. Members and supporters have frequently been suspected of carrying out violent attacks, mainly against immigrants. But it was the fatal stabbing of 34-year-old rapper Pavlos Fyssas, 11 days ago, by a self-declared Golden Dawn backer, that prompted the authorities to target members. The resulting public outcry prompted the government to order an investigation into the party's activities, reviewing phone records of more than 300 people connected to Golden Dawn. As a stunned Greek public watched the events unfold, the justice minister, Haralambos Athanassiou, assured the public that Golden Dawn officials "would receive a fair trial". But experts warned that the arrests would not rid the country of extremism, spawned by a sense of public pain and humiliation following austerity measures imposed by Greece's international creditors. "It is a success for the government, but not the end of Golden Dawn," said Dimitris Sotiropoulos, an associate professor of politics at Athens university, "because, for many years now, there has unfortunately been a wide diffusion of nationalism, anti-parliamentarism and violence as a means of political protest instead of rational dialogue." Last night, some legal experts warned that the action, and potential procedural oversights, could undermine the cases against those detained. "The police and courts moved from complete inertia to the other extreme," said George Katrougalos, a professor of constitutional law. Golden Dawn MP Christos Pappas, who avoided arrest, in a message on the party's website accused the authorities of going into "unprecedented illegal prosecutions" against their leader and lawmakers.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-8846582.html

Paul • an hour ago

Democracy is democracy and this silencing of democratically elected opponents - however hateful they may be - is profoundly undemocratic.



DLewis476 > Paul • 40 minutes ago

Nice principle. In reality, in Greece as in Weimar Germany, a state is close to failure. It is perhaps too weak and corrupt to combat an elusive and cunningly parasitic violent political movement, who's methods are more like an organised criminal body, by the due process of law. If it is entirely possible to counter the spread of this cancer upon society by democratic means and due process all well and good. But if due to neglect the organs of state are already compromised what then? Do you continue to insist upon freedom of speech and democratic process when in reality the only thing that can halt the fall of democracy is the use of force? If so, then I suggest you transfer from your comfortable existence where free speech is highly regarded and well protected, to Greece. Continue to insist upon those rights for all, including the rising fascists....watch the organs of state fail to combat the rising tide....and then see how much freedom of speech and democracy is left to you under their rule.



Paul > DLewis476 • 35 minutes ago

Ah yes, the argument that we can't afford "nice principles". It worked for the Nazis when they cracked down on their opponents in the midst of unemployment and hyperinflation in the 30s, and it seems to be working again now.



DLewis476 > Paul • 27 minutes ago

All I am saying is that whilst you sit in a place where the due process of law is supported by strong effective institutions with at least some integrity and the ability to combat organised criminal political movements by democratic means, it is easy to support those values as universal. Transfer yourself to an almost failed state, where the bankrupt democratic institutions are being subverted by fascists....be willing to experience the consequences to democracy and free speech if your gamble that everything will work out ok proves misplaced...and you might not feel quite so secure in your complacent proclamations about absolutes.



Paul > DLewis476 • 18 minutes ago

I find it interesting that the leader of Syriza also condemned these arrests if that's true, it's something i haven't seen reported anywhere, possibly because he - unlike you - understands that once the Greek elite has established the precedent of arresting "extreme right" parties and their supporters they will deploy it against "extreme left" parties and their supporters. Or is Alexis Tsipras just "complacent" as well?



DLewis476 > Paul • 14 minutes ago

You are intentionally refusing to respond to any of my main arguments, so I guess there is little point in continuing with this eh?



Paul > DLewis476 • 10 minutes ago

Your main argument being that democracy is a principle we can discard if and when it fails to deliver the outcomes we like?



StanfordLongevity • an hour ago

This movement represents the ultra extreme manifestation of the popular outrage at a program of multi billion euro payments which only benefited the wealthy banker class, and exacerbated the suffering of everyone else. The violent reaction must not be tolerated for a second, and the criminal element that has taken over the movement must be dealt with severely, but the message must be taken as a harbinger of things to come if govts continue to align with big corporations and wealthy individuals against the interests of the average person. At the end of the day there are more of them than you and you, as supposed representatives of all citizens, have taken the productive middle and less privileged classes to the limit. Is extreme wealth by a few worth the destruction of civil society?



DLewis476 > StanfordLongevity • an hour ago

Good comment, but... Don't for a moment assume that those who have plundered the national wealth don't have a hand in these violent extremist movements that turn one part of a society against another. The ensuing chaos ensures that the majority will be unable to hold the privileged classes to account. These violent forces have always existed within a subsection of all our societies and the establishment has always had it well within its power to manage these forces. It chooses when to let them off the leash.



The Truth is... • an hour ago

Past & present politicians from Pasok & New Democracy political parties should also stand trial for looting the country's wealth, bankrupting the country's economy and sending people to their deaths...The cause of this crisis is Pasok followed by New Democracy parties and they should stand trial for treason...



DLewis476 > The Truth is... • an hour ago

True. But it is a question of urgency. If your rulers are a well established bunch of crooks and thieves, the urgency that they be dealt with, though serious, is less than that posed by a bunch of violent, hate-filled thugs and murderers who aim to seize power by any means necessary and are gathering the means to do so.
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The Truth is... > DLewis476 • an hour ago

Pasok & New Democracy did got to power by dirty means...They promised jobs for votes and this is how they got to power...



DLewis476 > The Truth is... • an hour ago

Are you intentionally ignoring the quantitative difference in the threat? Robbery and corruption is bad. Violent hate, murder and overt tyranny of the mindless thug is even worse.



DLewis476 • 2 hours ago

It is common to hear the fascist sneer that our democratic countries must tolerate their anti-democratic parties, in the name of democracy. Indeed, if we don't, they say, it exposes our lack of true faith in democracy, rather than theirs. When will a white supremacist nazi be heard demanding greater democracy? When as a parasite he wishes to ride it to his own tyrannical rule. And only then. The apparent contradiction of democratic countries outlawing evidently anti-democratic parties is a direct consequence of the frank lie that these fascists have any regard for democracy themselves. The truth is they have utter contempt for democracy and want the opportunity to destroy it. However they are happy to exploit lily livered bourgeois liberals clinging to their absolutes regarding freedom of speech on the way to their goal of tyranny. They have no qualms about the hypocrisy of demanding their democratic rights with one hand, whilst forming a fist with their other in readiness to crush it.
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Paul > DLewis476 • 36 minutes ago

"First they came for the fascists..."



DLewis476 > Paul • 19 minutes ago

It is important that I understand the context of your comment properly. I wonder where your opinions truly lie. Is it the rule of law and democracy that is your highest value, or are you motivated by a degree of sympathy for the rising fascist tide? You do understand of course that the two possible perspectives are virtual opposites.



jackscht • 3 hours ago

The end of democracy in Greece, no better than Egypt.
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Gristle McThornbody • 5 hours ago

Defending democracy against fascism with fascism. The stupidity of criminalizing a large percentage of Greece's electoral will radicalize an already radical political movement. Instead of debating the flaws and failures of the Golden Dawn they have pushed them dangerously close to taking direct violent action.
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lionsingh > Gristle McThornbody • 5 hours ago

No see previous post. They have evidence.
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lionsingh • 6 hours ago

Nils Muižnieks, Council of Europe Commissioner for Human Rights, had placed the alleged ties of Greek Police and Golden Dawn under scrutiny, following reports of the Greek state's continued failure to acknowledge the problem.In an interview he gave on 2 February 2013 to the Greek newspaper "Ta Nea", Muižnieks clearly stated that, following his investigation, he now has strong evidence of ties and cooperation between the Greek Police and Golden Dawn; he also stated that Golden Dawn is a nazi party that shows contempt to democracy and practices racial violence. The arrests come not as some members killing an opponent but proof of the systamatic violent criminal organisation Golden Dawn is. Those that claim the Tories could arrest all the Labour party do not know the depth of the investigation.
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jackscht > lionsingh • 2 hours ago

It's not a Nazi party, it's a Fascist party.
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DLewis476 > jackscht • an hour ago

Bearing in mind that the Nazi party was a fascist party and that GD, as a breed of fascist party, expresses great affinity for many of the worst practises and attitudes of the Nazi party, please explain how your distinction bears any relevance in reality.
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mousemaster • 6 hours ago

The old progressive bind. Democracy is an article of faith for them, but then they discover that the vast majority of the electorate does not hold progressive views. Free speech is defended by progressives, but when people with different views speak out, it is denied to them.
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mikems • 6 hours ago

I suppose comments have been opened so that fascists can come and defend political murder and attack democrats. Our media really is sick. Always flirting with fascism and racism, trying to keep it alive in the media when it would die on its ar*e otherwise.
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jackscht > mikems • 2 hours ago

Tell that to all of those that freely voted for Golden Dawn. However stupid they are and repellent GD is your censorship is Fascistic.
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StanfordLongevity > jackscht • an hour ago

You are conflating political support for an alternative to the corruption that pervades the Greek govt. with endorsement of violence. This is faulty logic and wrong thinking. The voters you refer to did not vote for murder, or brutality of a criminal element against the opposition.
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lionsingh > mikems • 6 hours ago

3rd political party arrested in a European democracy is NEWS especially being openingly Nazi and connected to political murders. Our media are doing their job here by reporting this. I for one am surprised it took so long with the history of criminality behind them.
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mikems > lionsingh • 6 hours ago

But why are comments opened? Whose opinions regarding racist murder do they want to enable?

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jackscht > mikems • 3 hours ago

So if I murder someone and claim to be a Tory will that bring down Botox Dave and the Conservative party?
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lionsingh > mikems • 6 hours ago

Because it is called free speach.
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mikems > lionsingh • 6 hours ago

And who decides what we can talk about? It's not free speech to use media to incite hatred, is it? Racism is not free speech, it is hate speech, and abuse of the right to free speech which aims to restrict the full human rights of other people.

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jackscht > mikems • 2 hours ago

If we go down your road 'free speech' is subjective and no longer exists. Fascism.
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StanfordLongevity > jackscht • an hour ago

Not at all. Free speech, like all rights, is not unlimited. Your right to free speech ends where it interferes with my right to live and express an alternative opinion without fear of being murdered by you.
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lionsingh > mikems • 6 hours ago

I abhor racism and suspect many other posters here do. Like you if you see racism here you can report it here and to the Police as it is illegal and immoral.
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BlessPapaBenny > lionsingh • 5 hours ago

"I abhor racism" Are you anti-White? Anti-racist is just a codeword for anti-White
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Gristle McThornbody > lionsingh • 5 hours ago

The independent isn't the Guardian. They allow free speech even if it clashes with their liberal sensibilities.
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mikems • 6 hours ago

It's great to see the government dealing with this nest of Nazi vipers.
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hoinarylup • 6 hours ago

I must admit I am a little surprised at the crackdown on the Golden Dawn. It really was not what I was expecting. Firstly, it must have been quite difficult to do, given the high levels of Golden Dawn sympathy and even membership at all levels of the Greek police. Secondly the Golden Dawn was very useful to the government. Not only did they split the anti-austerity vote, also, with their constant violence and habit of breaking up meetings of groups they disapproved of, they kept the leftish opposition off-balance, on the defensive, on the back foot. This made them very useful to the government. So I wonder how the Greek government is going to keep the movement against austerity repressed now?
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Les. Hayward • 7 hours ago

Look our for the justification of arrests in this country of UKIP, BNP, EDL oh - and even the Greens, if they become too popular.
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mikems > Les. Hayward • 6 hours ago

Oh, really? Well the BNP is already linked with various bomb plots and actual attacks which have killed people. Of course we are always told that the person who planted the bombs or who was found with arms and explosives are 'ex members' but the violence is waiting just under the surface. The EDL is a similar force to Golden Dawn : it takes violence onto the streets to attack people without white skin colour. So, if the EDL carries on as it is, it ought to face a ban, because it is an anti-democratic conspiracy to incite violence, not a political group. ( I note that fascists are starting to hear about this thread, so will all be here soon to click up any post they think is pro-murder.)
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lionsingh > mikems • 6 hours ago

Both the BNP and EDL are legal parties regardless of ones view of them. Golden Dawn are clear Nazis. in 1987 in the Golden Dawn magazine titled "Hitler for 1000 years", its editor Michaloliakos showed his support for Nazism and white supremacy. Specifically he wrote, "We are the faithful soldiers of the National Socialist idea and nothing else" and "[...] WE EXIST, and continue the battle, the battle for the final victory of our race". He ends the article by writing "1987,42 years later, with our thought and soul given to the last great battle, with our thought and soul given to the black and red banners, with our thought and soul given to the memory of our great Leader, we raise our right hand up, we salute the Sun and with the courage, that iscompelled by our military honor and our National Socialist duty we
shout full of passion, faith to the future and our visions: HEIL HITLER!". The first congress of Golden Dawn in February 1990, the congress hall is decorated with the Swastika and the Wolfsangel. Golden Dawn's Youth Front has distributed fliers with nationalist messages in Athens schools . It publishes the white nationalist magazine Resistance Hellas-Antepithesi. The magazine is a sister publication of the United States-based National Alliance's Resistance magazine.

PURE NAZI SCUM

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Going back to the comment I dropped on Greek Reporter article the other day:

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Desperate measures by a failed System. The question remains: is Greek to be ruled by Greeks or jews?
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[Gee, how does an overtly 'nazi' comment get 11 to 1 approval? For a view that can't be expressed in the free press? Again, appreciate fully how BIZARRE this order of things is.]

Can read the story and other comments here:
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2013...lds-attention/
 
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There should be protests in front of the Greek embassy and all of their consulates until Golden Dawn is released
 
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There should be protests in front of the Greek embassy and all of their consulates until Golden Dawn is released
It may be a good idea, but since us and the party has a bad fame around the world this riot would just make it worst. But it can work at the good side for us, if someone try anything violent, as throwing a molotov in the greek embassy, either they will be afraid and realese or show as "violent neonazis white supremacist attack greek embassy" as well as every mainstream newspaper already do.
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Default Golden Dawn Defiant as Democratic Fascists Send in Hooded Secret Police Gestapo

Greece’s Golden Dawn party has remained defiant as the democratic fascist ruling party sent its hooded secret police—armed with machine guns—to arrest members of parliament and party officials over the weekend.

Party leader Nikos Michaloliakos said just before his arrest at home in the early hours of Saturday morning that the democratic fascist campaign would “open the gates of hell.

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BUT I AGREE WITH THE MESSAGE

 
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What really amuses my mind with what I am seeing, is that the GD members shows their faces with no shame, while the police escorts hide their faces like bank robbers.

Just my twisted sense of humor, but this absurdity has been on my mind since I found out what was going on early Saturday morning, my time.

The question becomes...Whose behavior is shameful?...and do the innocent and lawful people need to hide their faces?

The answer is NO! Honorable people do not hide their faces. They walk with their heads held high, with the sun shining on their faces, and do not whine and cry and apoligize for their actions.

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HALC is an OVERTLY Zionist controlled lobby, that is explicitly anti-Golden Dawn, even though their members often call them on this bias. Every single Greek issue plays second fiddle to whatever fleeting whims Jews at the time on Cyprus or Turkey or immigration or "racism".
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SnowGlobe, our U.S. cops have been wearing masks also, supposedly to protect them from reprisals - for their illegal actions. I have noticed it's not the rule in their regular duties, usually only when they're involved in something totally disgusting, some egregious violation of civil rights. I suppose even they understand that without the masks, their faces would be all over the Net in an hour.
 
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SnowGlobe, our U.S. cops have been wearing masks also, supposedly to protect them from reprisals - for their illegal actions. I have noticed it's not the rule in their regular duties, usually only when they're involved in something totally disgusting, some egregious violation of civil rights. I suppose even they understand that without the masks, their faces would be all over the Net in an hour.
This is true, and this is also why they are unlawfully charging people who capture their activity on their cell phones.

I hear and understand what you are saying. We can have long conversations about these things.

Let us cut to the chase though...

If my understanding is correct you have been offline for a while. I am willing to help you catch up with the little that I know sis.

Research "G-20 sound cannons Pittsburgh." My understanding is that this was the first time deployment.

This is the tip of the iceburg.

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Just a simple "Thank you!"
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