Vanguard News Network
VNN Media
VNN Digital Library
VNN Reader Mail
VNN Broadcasts

Old December 13th, 2007 #1
Alex Linder
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 45,756
Blog Entries: 34
Default What is the true origin of the term racism?

Debate on this in a KT thread. I had always heard Lenin coined it in the 1920s. Reading around, I just came across claim that in fact jew Trotsky coined it.

What have you heard?
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #2
Alex Linder
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 45,756
Blog Entries: 34
Default

KT thread:

http://www.kirksvilletoday.com/?p=102

According to the Oxford English Dictionary the term 'racist' was coined by Leon Davidovich Bronstein (Leon Trotsky). Anti-racism is a major focus of Cultural Marxism."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/23/metapedia/
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #3
KMRATHELL
deken
 
KMRATHELL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,865
Default

"American Renaissance" states that American author Lawrence Dennis was the first to use the word, in English, in his 1936 book "The coming American fascism".

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives...origins_of.php
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #4
Alex Linder
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 45,756
Blog Entries: 34
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KMRATHELL View Post
"American Renaissance" states that American author Lawrence Dennis was the first to use the word, in English, in his 1936 book "The coming American fascism".

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives...origins_of.php
AmRen is not a credible source, as it exists to exculpate and otherwise protect jews.
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #5
KraftAkt
Senior Member
 
KraftAkt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 926
Default

I have read that it was coined by Magnus Hirschfeld also a Jew.

http://www.heretical.com/miscella/racism.html

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search



Sexologist Hirschfeld
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #6
Jett Rink
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Squaresville
Posts: 7,502
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KraftAkt View Post
I have read that it was coined by Magnus Hirschfeld also a Jew.

http://www.heretical.com/miscella/racism.html

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search



Sexologist Hirschfeld

Marx, Engels, Trotsky & Lenin are the kings of the -isms. They had an -ism for everything.
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #7
Wagner
Senior Member
 
Wagner's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 850
Default

I do not have an account with the OED to verify but according to this guy the OED entry is as follows:

Quote:
[f. RACE n.2 + -ISM; cf. F. racisme (Robert 1935).]

a. The theory that distinctive human characteristics and abilities are determined by race. b. = RACIALISM.

1936 L. DENNIS Coming Amer. Fascism 109 If..it be assumed that one of our values
should be a type of racism which excludes certain races from citizenship, then the
plan of execution should provide for the annihilation, deportation, or sterilization of
the excluded races.

1938 E. & C. PAUL tr. Hirschfeld's Racism xx. 260 The apostles and energumens of
racism can in all good faith give free rein to impulses of which they would be
ashamed did they realise their true nature.

1940 R. BENEDICT Race: Science & Politics i. 7 Racism is an ism to which everyone
in the world today is exposed.

1952 M. BERGER Equality by Statute 236 Racism, tension in industrial,
urban areas.

1952 Theology LV. 283 The idolatry of our timeits setting up of nationalism, racism,
vulgar materialism.

1960 New Left Rev. Jan./Feb. 21/2 George Rogers saw fit to kow-tow to the incipient
racism of his electorate by including a line about getting rid of "undesirable
elements".

1964 GOULD & KOLB Dict. Social Sci. 571/2 Racism is a newer term for the word
racialism... There is virtual agreement that it refers to a doctrine of racial supremacy.

1971 Ceylon Daily News (Colombo) 18 Sept. 8/5 Mr. Seneviratne is welcome to his
ideal of inter-racial marriages as panacea for Racism.

1972 J. L. DILLARD Black English iii. 90 In the British sailors' reactions to the
slaves.., the very early existence of racism is as well documented as the difference in
language.

1974 M. FIDO R. Kipling 50/2 In The Story of Muhammad Din he wrote one of the
most economical and bitter attacks on British racism ever penned.

1976 Plain Dealer (Cleveland, Ohio) 4 Mar. A2/4 The Vatican radio said,.."Racism might have different faces but it will always be reprehensible."

1977 M. WALKER National Front vi. 155 A strike of the Asian workers against racism
in the factory.
-Wagner
__________________
We are 8% of the world population, dropping like a rock, and have a major kike infestation problem. podblanc.com

Last edited by Wagner; December 13th, 2007 at 08:20 PM. Reason: layout
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #8
Mike Jahn
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 7,526
Blog Entries: 3
Default Old Soviet books?

Does anyone here own any Pro-Soviet books from the 1920's or 1930's? I wonder if the word was used in those? In my 1933 Pro Soviet book by Jewish writer Maurice Gershon Hindus called The Great Offensive he only uses the term "race prejudice"
 
Old December 14th, 2007 #9
SMG3000
Wants Closer Ties to Iran
 
SMG3000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,734
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KraftAkt View Post
I have read that it was coined by Magnus Hirschfeld also a Jew.

http://www.heretical.com/miscella/racism.html

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search



Sexologist Hirschfeld
Oh, what a normal-looking old man!
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #10
Jett Rink
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Squaresville
Posts: 7,502
Default

From: The History of the Russian Revolution 1930 By Leon Trotsky

Chapter 1: Peculiarities of Russia’s Development

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leon Trotsky
Slavophilism, the messianism of backwardness, has based its philosophy upon the assumption that the Russian people and their church are democratic through and through, whereas official Russia is a German bureaucracy imposed upon them by Peter the Great. Mark remarked upon this theme: “In the same way the Teutonic jackasses blamed the despotism of Frederick the Second upon the French, as though backward slaves were not always in need of civilised slaves to train them.” This brief comment completely finishes off not only the old philosophy of the Slavophiles, but also the latest revelations of the “Racists.”
http://www.marxists.org/archive/trot...0/hrr/ch01.htm
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #11
Wagner
Senior Member
 
Wagner's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 850
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jett Rink View Post
From: The History of the Russian Revolution 1930 By Leon Trotsky

Chapter 1: Peculiarities of Russia’s Development
This citation will only hold if the work was written in English and actually used
the word "racist." Is this a translation and if so what is the date?

-Wagner
__________________
We are 8% of the world population, dropping like a rock, and have a major kike infestation problem. podblanc.com
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #12
Jett Rink
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Squaresville
Posts: 7,502
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wagner View Post
This citation will only hold if the work was written in English and actually used
the word "racist." Is this a translation and if so what is the date?

-Wagner
Translated by Max Eastman, 1932
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #13
cillian
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,377
Default

not to split hairs here, but if there was a similar word used by jews in russia it still wouldnt have been the english word racism. if the word didnt exist in english it would have been translated as racial prejudice or something. so we should be looking for the first english source of the word
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #14
cillian
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,377
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wagner View Post
This citation will only hold if the work was written in English and actually used
the word "racist." Is this a translation and if so what is the date?

-Wagner
i see you beat me to that point
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #15
David Milano
Junior Member
 
David Milano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 136
Default

racist:

1932 as a noun, 1938 as an adjective, from race (n.2); racism is first attested 1936 (from Fr. racisme, 1935), originally in the context of Nazi theories. But they replaced earlier words, racialism (1907) and racialist (1917), both often used at first in a British or South African context.

Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=racist

No primary sources listed, sadly.

Last edited by David Milano; December 13th, 2007 at 09:31 PM. Reason: added link
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #16
Mishko Novosel
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,156
Default

Very interesting subject with great facts. This runs along the lines of who invented multiculturalism, same shit same jew bullshit.

kikes = Do as we say, not as we do...
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #17
Darren
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,426
Default

Jews eschew racism so that they can legitimize their alien presence in other societies. Of course, Jews are the most extremely ethnocentric ethnic group ever known to man.

They debase society by reducing cultural values from wholesome ones grown from organic tradition to sterile economic ones as defined by the governing entity. Jews have long dominated both sides - capitalism and communism - both to the detriment of the people involved.

Trotsky's essay is a perfect example of this same debasement.
 
Old April 16th, 2012 #18
John Creagh
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 211
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wagner View Post
This citation will only hold if the work was written in English and actually used the word "racist."

"расистов" is not "racists". They are not even the same language.


While Eastman may have first used the word in book form in 1932 he did not coin it.


If the French people and Government show that they desire to come to a real understanding, the opposition of the German Nationals and the Racists will be nullified and will soon disappear altogether.

Manchester Guardian, September 5, 1926.

The government bloc reached an understanding with the most notorious Racists.

American Political Science Review 21, 1927.


The word formerly used was racialist.
 
Old April 16th, 2012 #19
Nate Richards
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,431
Default

Why aren't we simply using "jewist" in place of the more or less PC "zionist", when referring to jews' servants? Now, with 33.333333% less syllables! That alone should make it a winner, and you get right to the point by building from "jew".

Surely that's been used before, at least here on VNN, but I can't remember seeing it.
__________________
No time for the old in 'n out, love. I've just come to read the meter.
 
Old April 17th, 2012 #20
Celtic_Patriot
Senior Member
 
Celtic_Patriot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,670
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Creagh View Post
"расистов" is not "racists".
The Russian dictionary lists расистов as "racists".

Barron's Russian Dictionary states:

расист
m racist

page 246

ISBN 0-8120-9825-0
http://www.amazon.com/Barrons-Russian-Dictionary-Kerstin-Hartge/dp/0812098250


.
__________________
Красным цветом в России будет цвет коммунистических еврейств

.
 
Reply

Share


Thread
Display Modes


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:04 AM.
Page generated in 0.80916 seconds.