#1 Golden Dawn Thread

[panos]

See how the official and unofficial state are working in perfect coordination. At the same time that the government is trying to find a "constitutional" way to ban GD, the "antiauthoritarian" anarchists put bombs in our offices. WHAT DOESN'T KILL US MAKES US STRONGER!

[Fred O'Malley]

This could be another Reichstag false flag, the juden wouldn't have missed an opportunity to kill some leaders. Our real enemies aren't so inept.

[Mark Faust]

Notice the two stories linked to this thread and check out the opening sentences..... I wonder which one was written directly by a kike.. hmmmm.

[Fred O'Malley]

Originally Posted by Mark Faust

Notice the two stories linked to this thread and check out the opening sentences..... I wonder which one was written directly by a kike.. hmmmm.

It doesn't matter, since both are fairly accurate. The problem lies in the perception of what "far-right" and "neo-nazi" really mean to the public at large. Our success will depend on our ability to change the perceptions.

EDIT: Reichstag

[KraftAkt]

Golden Dawn has maybe one year left where they can try to get into the government.

The greek economy is now as worse as it will get, it will only get better from now on. The debt of greece will likely be forgiven so the state will also not go bancrupt.

If this escalates it would only be good for Golden Dawn, because it will get impossible to get elected democratically when the economy improves in a few months.

[Fred O'Malley]

Armies cannot stop an idea whose time has come.

[varg]

Originally Posted by Fred O'Malley

This could be another Richstagg(sp) false flag, the juden wouldn't have missed an opportunity to kill some leaders. Our real enemies aren't so inept.

Richstagg? Reichstag?

In order to claim something is a false flag, you'd probably need to explain the motive or who would benefit.

[Fred O'Malley]

Originally Posted by varg

Richstagg?

In order to claim something is a false flag, you'd probably need to explain the motive or who would benefit.

I seem to remember that the Nazis came to power by blowing up the Reichstag and blaming the other players. Sorry, I can't remember all the particulars and the spelling escapes me.

Maybe this will help: http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar...tler/burns.htm

[Fred O'Malley]

Originally Posted by varg

Richstagg? Reichstag?

In order to claim something is a false flag, you'd probably need to explain the motive or who would benefit.

It seems to me, that the stronger GD grows, the more enemies it accumulates. Something dramatic, like this bomb, can cause fractional elements to coalesce around the victim. It's been done before.

[M.N. Dalvez]

At the beginning of 1933 the Reichstag, the German houses of parliament, burned down. The police found mentally-ill (or so it was alleged) Dutchman Marinus van der Lubbe on the scene, and he was eventually executed for it.

This led to martial law (basically) being declared by von Hindenburg, and allowed the National Socialists free reign.

There were a lot of claims later on that the fire had started in different places simultaneously, or that people had heard Goering admit he was behind the fire, or that the SA did it and they used van der Lubbe as a patsy.

It was convenient for the National Socialists, but that in itself is not proof.

That's as good as I can do from memory.

Our real enemies aren't so inept.

You have the idea our 'real enemies' are Supermen. They're not. They are clever and have rat cunning coming out every pore, but they are fallible and they do fuck up pretty often.

[Fred O'Malley]

Originally Posted by M.N. Dalvez

You have the idea our 'real enemies' are Supermen. They're not. They are clever and have rat cunning coming out every pore, but they are fallible and they do fuck up pretty often.

I'm not under any such illusion. I know, and history tells us, that they are susceptible to over reaching and falling on their own sword. They can, must and will be defeated, the real question is, will we allow them another bite at the apple?

[panos]

Originally Posted by Fred O'Malley

This could be another Reichstag false flag, the juden wouldn't have missed an opportunity to kill some leaders. Our real enemies aren't so inept.

I undesrtand your reasoning but this is not the case here. There have been several bomb attacks by the "anarchists" against Golden Dawn in the past and they usually take responsiblity for the attack a few days later.

[Sam Fisher]

Originally Posted by Fred O'Malley

Armies cannot stop an idea whose time has come.

"There is more than flesh and blood behind this mask, Mr. Creedy. Behind this mask is an idea. And ideas are bulletproof." -V for Vendetta

[Chad Wentworth]

Good for publicity, good nobody was injured.

[N.B. Forrest]

Originally Posted by panos

See how the official and unofficial state are working in perfect coordination. At the same time that the government is trying to find a "constitutional" way to ban GD, the "antiauthoritarian" anarchists put bombs in our offices. WHAT DOESN'T KILL US MAKES US STRONGER!

Boy, I sure hope no hot-headed Golden Dawn sympathizers fly off the handle and respond in kind. That would be terribly tragic.

[Robert Ransdell]

This is not the first time the Golden Dawn has been attacked, had their facilities bombed, by terrorists.

If the past is any indication, they will come out of this more determined and resolved to carry on with their work than before. With the victories they have won over the last year or two, and the increased exposure this has given them, hopefully more Greeks will see that the force that promises them prosperity and a recovery of the national life there is the force that will be targeted by the enemy with more than words. An establishment party that only will bring more of the same would never be targeted like this - only the revolutionaries.

[Joe_Smith]

Tolerant pacifists and parliament bureaucrats react to terrorist attack on GoldenDawn :

http://xaameriki.wordpress.com/2012/...iously-silent/

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by panos

See how the official and unofficial state are working in perfect coordination. At the same time that the government is trying to find a "constitutional" way to ban GD, the "antiauthoritarian" anarchists put bombs in our offices.

Exactly right: soft and hard attacks, good cop/bad cop. All while the intellectuals lie that GD is the tool of the state.

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by Fred O'Malley

It seems to me, that the stronger GD grows, the more enemies it accumulates. Something dramatic, like this bomb, can cause fractional elements to coalesce around the victim. It's been done before.

Golden Dawn's offices have been attacked multiple times - they just don't get reported much of anywhere outside GD's own press center. The chance this bomb was set off by GD itself is zero.

[Alex Linder]

Incidentally, from what I understand, the final word on the Reichstag fire is that it was not a false flag. The fire really was set by a Dutch communist. The NS used it like one, to get the Enabling Act passed, but they did not produce the attack. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.