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Old September 2nd, 2013 #281
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That's the thing, you don't know Ferd; he beat his wife, he broke into some broad's house and raped her - twice I believe - and recently he threatened to 'pop a cap' into his own brother over some business thing. So Ferd has a history; he is out of control.

Not too long ago he posted the IP of someone on his forum that he had a problem with. That was quickly deleted but not before my source took a snap shot of it.

Oh and he was hitting on someone's wife while she was a member there; and caused at least two females to flee from his site because he wouldn't leave them alone.

So it's not even just one incident 26 years ago, but a pattern of devious behavior.

If he were innocent he would have done whatever it took to prove his innocence, including hiring a lawyer; and Ferd has the money for a top-notch lawyer -- the greediest of kikes.

Instead what does he do? -- he deletes posts linking to the case. His own actions, or lack thereof, and the way he handled the accusation clearly show that he is guiltier than a nigger on death-row.
Wow. You're saying he broke into a woman's house and raped her - TWICE? He must have served an asshole full of prison time for that. Can you tell me what he got sentenced to for that offense? You don't have to bother, but I'm just curious now. As I said my initial skepticism had nothing to do with Fred per se, but now I'm curious what amount of time he got. I believe such a crime would easily pull a life sentence in some states.
 
Old September 2nd, 2013 #282
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Wow. You're saying he broke into a woman's house and raped her - TWICE? He must have served an asshole full of prison time for that. Can you tell me what did he got sentenced to for that offense? You don't have to bother, but I'm just curious now.
I believe it was a pathetic one year sentence. Something to do with some legal fuck-up or something. So he got off easy.
 
Old September 2nd, 2013 #283
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I'm a working class man and don't have time or accesability to research this case beyond google and sundry internet sites. That is not even enough as any authentic investigation would require footwork and speaking with both parties, reading court minutes etc.

Your criticism against me is baseless as you have several times misconstrued my skepticism of our judicial system as "defending" an individual actor.

I understand it is difficult for you to see the nuance, but that's your problem. You seem to react as a disgrunteled child towards any idea that doesn't readily fall in step with your own.

You said you were going by what the witness "said". Do you know the witness personally? Can you vouch for her credibility? Here's why I ask.

Several years ago I had a girlfriend who lost here sense. One day she became violent and I mishandled the situation. I should have taken a walk, wait for her to cool off, but I mistakenly called the cops foolishly thinking it would defuse the argument. When cops arrived they quickly became agitated and began to put handcuffs on the girl. As she was escorted to the squad car she was desperate to avoid her fate. Suddenly she blurted "but he hit me too".

I half expected the cops to laugh because it was clear she was making it up as a last ditch attempt to get free, but instead they arrested me. The charge was dropped, but I spent a night in jail and realized how easily I could have fared much worse. Following the incident I researched and found that the laws enacred after the "Violence against women Act" are designed in a feminist manner and that the mere accusation of violence made by a woman demands cops arrest a man even without any evidence. Countless men have been victimized by this double standard in the feminized jewized legal system.

So I ask again, do you know the defendent? Can you vouch for her credibility? What about the prosecution the judge or the arresting officer?

Oh and for the record I don't know Fred nor did I know he had his own website. To me this isn't about Fred, but about how to judge an individual who may have a a criminal charge in their background.
The default is to trust the jury unless you have reason not to. We don't know the woman, but we know Fred. It is not hard to believe that he's guilty at all.

You're taking a sound principle, to be cautious about believing what you hear in the media/from the courts, and misapplying it to a specific situation. There is not one reason to doubt that Fred is guilty as charged.

Also, it's not just one incident. It's a collection of incidents demonstrating a pattern. A pattern we saw from ourselves when the guy posted here. What he did isn't remotely comparable to your own case, as you describe it.
 
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BTW, if what I've read is true:

- avg convicted murderer serves SEVEN years
- avg convicted rapist serves THREE years
 
Old September 2nd, 2013 #285
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I'm not going to lock this thread, as there may be more that comes out worth discussing.
It's also one hell of a litmus test.
 
Old September 2nd, 2013 #286
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It's also one hell of a litmus test.
Yea it's a great litmus test. Haha. This entire site is a litmus test in case you haven't realized. Pretty much ONLY race conscious jew wise folks whom are not deluded by race mixing propaganda come here.
 
Old September 2nd, 2013 #287
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Didn't you try posting it over there Bobster and they deleted it?

I guess he's trying to claim it was a different guy, with the same full name and a "similar" birthdate (no more like exact.) I'd to see them challenge my post #129 http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=1...&postcount=129

They can't. Anyone who still makes excuses for him is perfectly okay associating with rapists and wife-beaters. We should just get rid of the defectives from here.

Hopefully Cobb's association with them doesn't hurt his Leith activism.
I posted the charges being discussed by VNN. He deleted my post and PM'd me, saying it was another guy and that this matter should not be discussed on his forum. He then deleted his PM after I read it.
 
Old September 2nd, 2013 #288
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The default is to trust the jury unless you have reason not to. We don't know the woman, but we know Fred. It is not hard to believe that he's guilty at all.

You're taking a sound principle, to be cautious about believing what you hear in the media/from the courts, and misapplying it to a specific situation. There is not one reason to doubt that Fred is guilty as charged.

Also, it's not just one incident. It's a collection of incidents demonstrating a pattern. A pattern we saw from ourselves when the guy posted here. What he did isn't remotely comparable to your own case, as you describe it.
Perhaps you are correct, Alex, and I accept your word that unlike myself you actually know Fred. Although you'll excuse me if lack the "default" thinking you refer to. My default thought pattern is to be highly skeptical of courts, and putting Fred aside, you cannot always judge a man by his rap sheet. I know this first hand as I have aforementioned. The funny thing is this quality makes me "appear lower than a negro" by one of the posters on this thread. Jeez is that harsh much? Ironically I have probably knocked the shit out more niggers than anyone except Glenn Miller or the Klitchco brothers. Nor would I consider negros "low" or evil. I view then as merely a primitive specie of hominoid, and infact they seem superior to whites in their sense of racial loyalty and group identity. Sorry I digress.
 
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Perhaps you are correct, Alex, and I accept your word that unlike myself you actually know Fred. Although you'll excuse me if lack the "default" thinking you refer to. My default thought pattern is to be highly skeptical of courts, and putting Fred aside, you cannot always judge a man by his rap sheet. I know this first hand as I have aforementioned. The funny thing is this quality makes me "appear lower than a negro" by one of the posters on this thread. Jeez is that harsh much? Ironically I have probably knocked the shit out more niggers than anyone except Glenn Miller or the Klitchco brothers. Nor would I consider negros "low" or evil. I view then as merely a primitive specie of hominoid, and infact they seem superior to whites in their sense of racial loyalty and group identity. Sorry I digress.
We know the courts discriminate against men. But we're dealing with one man and 1-2 cases here. It's not a political thing. The guy busted into someone's house and raped someone. That's pretty cut and dried. We must presume if there were some doubt about what happened, the jury would have expressed it. We know Fred lies, misperceives, blows hard, threatens violence, threatens outings; we also know his company has been complained about as scamming to the BBB - at a certain point he's long past you have to kind of assume these charges were justified. There's not one reason not to think he's exactly what the jury found him to be.
 
Old September 2nd, 2013 #290
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Yes that may be true, Alex. I respect your judgment and I never "defended" Fred, I merely questioned the epistemological value of relying solely on a court system for knowledge, which the initial comments suggested to me. However, maybe i misinterpreted that. If you have personal knowledge of Fred or solid reasons to believe his accuser, than I accept of course accept your wisdom in making fitting conclusions.

I do not know Fred. I do not know the case. I'm a working man who doesn't have time to investigate it. I have time to voice my opinion and share my experiences with the court system, inspite of "master of the one liner" rouse and others who see fit to call me a negro, thumb down my sincere comments, and insult my intelligence. I sure hope these folks would understand that even if they are more intelligent and knowledgeable than I, doesn't mean they have to act like pompous jerks. I personally deserve more respect than that from faceless anonomoys internet personas.
 
Old September 2nd, 2013 #291
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I merely questioned the epistemological value of relying solely on a court system for knowledge, which the initial comments suggested to me.
Where, pray tell, would one get additional, non-court/jury information on the Fred rape case?

Fred himself is an awfully dubious sort, what with they lying about not being a rapist and all. That leaves the victim, or one of Fred's friends who knew him at that time. I'd imagine that Fred surrounds himself with liars in his personal life.
 
Old September 2nd, 2013 #292
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Yes that may be true, Alex. I respect your judgment and I never "defended" Fred, I merely questioned the epistemological value of relying solely on a court system for knowledge, which the initial comments suggested to me. However, maybe i misinterpreted that. If you have personal knowledge of Fred or solid reasons to believe his accuser, than I accept of course accept your wisdom in making fitting conclusions.
I know Fred the same as others - from his public postings. I've never spoken to him in person or over phone. Neither do I know his accuser. But I know politics and the media and courts, I see no reason to doubt the information as presented. This is not the cops showing up on someone's doorstep where both the man and woman are angry and screaming, where there's real doubt about what happened. It's pretty clear Fred did what he's accused of.
 
Old September 2nd, 2013 #293
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Don't "prey tell" me, Nigel.

It's unnecessarilly pompous and I've had enough of that.
 
Old September 2nd, 2013 #294
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Don't "prey tell" me, Nigel.

It's unnecessarilly pompous and I've had enough of that.
It means to politely ask.

You are being a bit hostile, no?
 
Old September 3rd, 2013 #295
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I know what it means, Nigel. I've never heard the phrase used by anyone not engaging in blatant snobbery. However, maybe you're in Europe and if things are different there I send my sincerest apologies.


Etymology

From*pray*(“ask (politely)”) +*tell(“explain”)

Interjection

1. Pray*tell(archaic)*Please explain (something the requester does not yet understand).Pray tell*us, how will they fare while you are away?

2. (idiomatic,*usually*sarcastic)Expressing incredulity, please explain (some claim or position the speaker doubts).
 
Old September 3rd, 2013 #296
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*snip*
Enough with the strawman nonsense. In all seriousness, if you cannot trust the legally binding sentence handed down by the court and then court of appeals, then you must think that someone, somewhere, somehow has a more credible position on what actually happened.

If that is the case and we are to give Fred a pass because, well, all the evidence that is stacked against him isn't credible because local city courts are Jewed, then you must have some semblance of an idea of what exactly it would take to definitively prove that Fred is a liar, a rapist, a batterer of women, a fraud/con-artist, someone who engages in online sex stalking (we have evidence of that on this forum), and someone who threatens his own brother and kin based off of his paranoia, all of which has been disseminated in this very thread.

If that is the case then it would stand to reason that all WN who engage in criminal activities that are in no way related to politics, or in any way are conducted in a way which does not show bias towards that person based upon his politics get a free pass because, hey, Anthony Lynch knows each and every single town court is Jewed to the ninth power and says that, well, court dockets are just not enough to convict rapist criminals for crime anymore. They must be handed down on some other criteria, namely, I'd imagine, whatever you think is the case, regardless of reality and justice.
 
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Enough with the strawman nonsense. In all seriousness, if you cannot trust the legally binding sentence handed down by the court
Trust whomever you want, Nigel. I guess I sort of got Iin the way of the intended purpose of this thread with my skepticism. That being said, I do not trust the court system. Does that mean I "defend" all persons accused of crime? Of course not. To assume so is a poisonous twisting of my position which I have already stated as being thus I do not know Fred. I do not know his case. I haven't investigated it. For all I know he (whoever he is) is guilty as a nigger in a white neighborhood at night.
 
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Trust whomever you want, Nigel. I guess I sort of got Iin the way of the intended purpose of this thread with my skepticism. That being said, I do not trust the court system. Does that mean I "defend" all persons accused of crime? Of course not. To assume so is a poisonous twisting of my position which I have already stated as being thus I do not know Fred. I do not know his case. I haven't investigated it. For all I know he (whoever he is) is guilty as a nigger in a white neighborhood at night.
What we do know definitively is that these accusations were levied against Ferd, for battering, burglary, and later for making internet threats towards his brother. Then it boils down to trust the jury that found him guilty of the former two even after the court decision was appealed. I'd imagine that even if you think the courts are Jewed, that you don't wholly distrust the jury assembled to look after this case.

You either have an opinion one way or another, or you're wasting your time and ours coming into this thread just to say "I don't know lol." Seriously, that is your position right now. You won't even grace us with some kind of opinion beyond what could possibly be considered a neutral fallacy, claiming a neutral conclusion while tacitly trying your darnedest to undermine the authority of a jury-approved conviction by directing the audience's attention to an obscure, abstract universal applied to the justice system overall.

Therefore the question really is: why are you even here?
 
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What we do know definitively is that these accusations were levied against Ferd, for battering, burglary, and later for mhere's the thing, Nigel internet threats towards his brother. Then it boils down to trust the jury that found him guilty of the former two even after the court decision was appealed. I'd imagine that even if you think the courts are Jewed, that you don't wholly distrust the jury assembled to look after this case.

You either have an opinion one way or another, or you're wasting your time and ours coming into this thread just to say "I don't know lol." Seriously, that is your position right now. You won't even grace us with some kind of opinion beyond what could possibly be considered a neutral fallacy, claiming a neutral conclusion while tacitly trying your darnedest to undermine the authority of a jury-approved conviction by directing the audience's attention to an obscure, abstract universal applied to the justice system overall.

Therefore the question really is: why are you even here?
Nigel, I tried to play nice and be courteous to you despite your unnecessarilly pompous initial statement (which you weakly denied through semantic nonsense and which I exposed by showing a definition in fact). This upset you so much that you continue your idiotic rambling nonsense.
 
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Nigel, I tried to play nice and be courteous to you despite your unnecessarilly pompous initial statement (which you weakly denied through semantic nonsense and which I exposed by showing a definition in fact).
You mean your straw man to avoid answering the actual question? Yes. Do tell us why you were incapable of answering the initial question (ever).

Why haven't you elucidated on just how your claim that the court in question isn't credible at all and why your neutral fallacy is the legitimate position to take?

Tread lightly, this is a multiple felon you are inadvertently defending.
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This upset you so much that you continue your idiotic rambling nonsense.


Go on, tell us by what measure am I upset.
 
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