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Old May 8th, 2010 #21
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No, rumour has it he is busy printing off some election propaganda Publicity photo to follow apparently.
One assumes the photo will be of an entirely clean shaven man. Beard bigotry - whatever next.
 
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This has gone on for years in "the movement" the apohrycal tale and urban myth of "British" monomarks a wholly jewish owned Ltd company.

BRITISH MONOMARKS LTD
PO BOX 12
WC1N 3XX LONDON, LONDON
Oooops just like the way the state can see your bank account because of its PO Box address so to BM boxes.Still another way of looking at it,is that anyone stupid enough to correspond illegality via a PO Box No BM No mailboxes etc or any other such service provided by a company with a PO Box address is better off inside than out in collateral terms for "the movement".
A truly ethical correspondent that skirts legality will never despatch any such items to any sort of PO Box address.One of the few organisations in "movement" history that did not do this was nsiwp/nsp
This arguement is getting silly. NSIWP/NSPUK DID send propaganda material for their United Kingdom units to P.O.Boxes and also home addresses. I have no idea why "Andy" says this is not a fact?.... When I know it is a fact. Also to defame the National Socialist Party of the United Kingdom as a "honey trap" does a diservice to the many fine comrades who maintained that party, and took on the evil Race Relations Act, with the now famous NIGGERS EAT SHIT stickers. The NSPUK at that time was the only grouping taking on the evil Race Act, and did it successfully.
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Split from Searchlight Spies thread in order to continue debate without detracting from that thread.

I was speaking to someone the other day - (I can't say who but he was around in those days and in the NF. I don't expect this to be given much credence as I can't mention his name but I wanted to say it anyway.) and he doesn't recall the "n*ggers eat shit" sticker, but he does remember the NSPUK sending stickers to PO boxes.
 
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One assumes the photo will be of an entirely clean shaven man. Beard bigotry - whatever next.
Outside of the third world care to name a successful politician with a beard ? You have stated here yourself that you are in favour of shaggy unkempt presentations to the public as long as someone proclaims an ideology you agree with.
Monomarks legal communications are to PO Box 12 Mononmarks have done the same as the banks.
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Outside of the third world care to name a successful politician with a beard ?
Pre-emptive strike notation to retards: I am not endorsing these politicians as representing my view. They are listed merely to answer the question.

Gerry Adams
David Blunkett
Robin Cook
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You have stated here yourself that you are in favour of shaggy unkempt presentations to the public as long as someone proclaims an ideology you agree with.
Wholly fallacious as is usual from you. I have not stated that I prefer shaggy unkempt appearances. As we can all see for ourselves on the Todmorden results thread, what I stated was that I would not let a bloody BEARD affect my choice of politician if his ideology suited me.

I am truly amazed you have never stood for a party because you are a master at spin. On second thoughts, you're too easy to catch out, so perhaps not.
 
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Pre-emptive strike notation to retards: I am not endorsing these politicians as representing my view. They are listed merely to answer the question.

Gerry Adams
David Blunkett
Robin Cook
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Wholly fallacious as is usual from you. I have not stated that I prefer shaggy unkempt appearances. As we can all see for ourselves on the Todmorden results thread, what I stated was that I would not let a bloody BEARD affect my choice of politician if his ideology suited me.

I am truly amazed you have never stood for a party because you are a master at spin. On second thoughts, you're too easy to catch out, so perhaps not.
Lincoln has been dead for decades the others have beards but even blind pugh can keep his beard trimmed.Your man is obviously insane for sporting such a beard/You will not agree with my insanity claim but that is my honest opinion.I base it on the fact that he is a fully formed man and has deliberately chosen to have such a beard in my book only a madman would do such a thing.This is not negotiable or for debate.I regard anyone even a member of the public who would sport such a beard as a roll and butter.

You stated quite clearly and shamelessly that such beards were acceptable in your circles.Along with the 17th century serving wench dresses and divine insight as to how self evident sephardi jews are not jews I question just what sort of mindset is prevalent among the turnip taliban.The slavish acceptance of antifaowens's bogus allegations along with the existence of Australian training camps for searchlight spies I am astounded it is grotesque.If the enemy wanted to create a parody of those taking a stand for the race he would have a hard job topping VNN UK.

I have never run for public office in the UK I don't do politics.Qualification "Many regard every facet of life as "political" This is an enemy (jew) claim to divert adherents from their mission - politics is on the contrary only a facet of the biological struggle for existence "

In regard to the UK as is I believe that a Bnp led UK would be a plus for the race.I further believe that if one is a nationalist or a politician that if one wants to fight for the race in the legal political arena they should do so via the Bnp.
Any political party in the UK that is not the Bnp is a rival, in political terms rivals are enemies.It follows that in political terms I regard any other political party that is not the Bnp as an enemy and that anyone encouraging such enemies is either deluded or an enemy of the race.One does not and cannot co exist with the enemy one destroys them.

The fact that some members and supporters of the Bnp wish to defy Griffen and make common cause with these blighters is to be deplored.They are shameless and spineless advocating broad churches and big tents ecumenical approaches are death for minor and major political parties.It destroys that which distinguishes parties such as the Bnp.Burying them under the ravings and activities of the liability of ginger beards and textile clothing alcohol dependency and nutzi posing.
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Paul Cromie, recently re-elected Bradford BNP councillor:

 
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Lincoln has been dead for decades the others have beards but even blind pugh can keep his beard trimmed.Your man is obviously insane for sporting such a beard/
He is not "my man". I don't know him and haven't met him. I am not in the BPP and never have been. So how do you work out that he is "my man"? Another lie.

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You stated quite clearly and shamelessly that such beards were acceptable in your circles.Along with the 17th century serving wench dresses and divine insight as to how self evident sephardi jews are not jews I question just what sort of mindset is prevalent among the turnip taliban.
Beards are acceptable in my circles. It's a beard. It's not a criminal record for touching children, it's not a penchant for gay sex, it's not an ara symbol, it's not a sign of leprosy, it's a bloody beard.

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The slavish acceptance of antifaowens's bogus allegations
Repeat it often enough and they will believe it.


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If the enemy wanted to create a parody of those taking a stand for the race he would have a hard job topping VNN UK.
He is given plenty of ammunition.

So what does your "taking a stand for the race" entail? Bickering on an internet forum?

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I have never run for public office in the UK I don't do politics.
Clearly.

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In regard to the UK as is I believe that a Bnp led UK would be a plus for the race.
Nobody has stated otherwise.

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Any political party in the UK that is not the Bnp is a rival, in political terms rivals are enemies.It follows that in political terms I regard any other political party that is not the Bnp as an enemy and that anyone encouraging such enemies is either deluded or an enemy of the race.One does not and cannot co exist with the enemy one destroys them.
In your opinion - fortunately it's not the opinion of those out there that are actually doing something ro the results would have been even more dismal. The nationalists who stood against other nationalists have been taken note of as have the ones who displayed more political acumen than you clearly have and recognised the common sense in not diluting the vote but still managing to put up nationalist candidates.

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The fact that some members and supporters of the Bnp wish to defy Griffen and make common cause with these blighters is to be deplored.
Oy, the drama! Common cause? Nice spin, but all I did was defended the chap's right to wear a beard.

I can't be arsed to keep defending myself against someone with chronic truth recognition problems so unless something new comes up, you are now free to make more fallacious statements about me and beards and leaders and amen corners and whatever else your little heart desires and they will remain unchallenged. People have the ability to check what I actually said and compare it to your rather wobbly spin so here you go - have the last word.
 
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Excellent example, XI. I doubt he can slag off a BNP councillor for having a beard, remembering, of course, his view that the BNP is the be all and end all and all other nationalist parties are, by definition, traitors to the race.
 
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Excellent example, XI. I doubt he can slag off a BNP councillor for having a beard, remembering, of course, his view that the BNP is the be all and end all and all other nationalist parties are, by definition, traitors to the race.
I unreservedly condemn all beards and even moustaches (!) groomed or not on those seeking public office.A bigger concern in this particular case is that the blighter is morbidly obese.I do not select Bnp candidates if I did he would not be one.I am not the electorate if I was voting in an election and he was the Bnp candidate or even your man with the ginger beard I would vote for them.However if it became the norm for Bnp candidates and members to be facially hirsute and or morbidly obese I would reconsider my support as this would indicate that the Bnp were not a serious political party functioning in the legal arena.

I am bemused that it is a bone of contention that I think candidates and even members should be normal people of normal proportions in normal attire with normal weight to size proportions.I appreciate that in the wilds inhabited by the turnip taliban the "norm" can have a different meaning altogether.I believe that if one is to campaign and function in the mainstream one should at least appear mainstream.I thought this sort of logic was self evident it is in normal society but then VNN UK is not normal.Posters here go to extraordinary tortuous lengths to template their own ridiculous veiw of the world as the default version.Giving a free pass on appearence as long as ideology is sound ???? It's grotesque ! an amazing statement to make.You have given the green light to every weirdo in "the movement" what about bandozis self mutilated ears ? what if some blighter Aryan and ideologically sound was also so mutilated ? Personally I am a believer in stigma without indicates what is within a failure to address the prevailing orthodoxy one is hoping to enter indicates a degree of self indulgence I find offensive in a politician.
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This arguement is getting silly. NSIWP/NSPUK DID send propaganda material for their United Kingdom units to P.O.Boxes and also home addresses. I have no idea why "Andy" says this is not a fact?.... When I know it is a fact. Also to defame the National Socialist Party of the United Kingdom as a "honey trap" does a diservice to the many fine comrades who maintained that party, and took on the evil Race Relations Act, with the now famous NIGGERS EAT SHIT stickers. The NSPUK at that time was the only grouping taking on the evil Race Act, and did it successfully.
Right, can anybody such as KW or sss (I know that he has an ability to come up with stuff like this) produce a scan of the magazine or whatever these stickers were advertised in and then we can see for ourselves because it would surely say "We will not send these stickers to PO boxes".

I have no idea of the truth in this matter as I was barely, if at all, in double figures of age at this time so would like to know for myself.
 
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so would like to know for myself.
The post you moved from its correct place at the behest of your leader antifaowens:

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Right for the ignorant.
1.The sticker featured here was not an nsiwp/nsp uk production.
2.No one ever recieved one at a PO Box ( antifaowens and barker lie )
3.I am not now nor have I ever been a member of the NSIWP/NSP UK.

If you with your johnny come lately take on British nationalism want to regurgitate antifaowens lying bullshit do so.In the real world the one I live in I know that O'Hara will stab himself in the eye and bleed to death before he answers antifaowens question for him.Antifaowens and the rest of his amen corner can post what they like the above is correct fullstop.............."
As you would like to know for yourself,you will be fully aware of the previous posts in regard to the nsiwp/nsp ( Including your comrade sss's posting of a newspaper and stickers from a completely different organisation )
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The post you moved from its correct place at the behest of your leader antifaowens:

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Right for the ignorant.
1.The sticker featured here was not an nsiwp/nsp uk production.
2.No one ever recieved one at a PO Box ( antifaowens and barker lie )
3.I am not now nor have I ever been a member of the NSIWP/NSP UK.

If you with your johnny come lately take on British nationalism want to regurgitate antifaowens lying bullshit do so.In the real world the one I live in I know that O'Hara will stab himself in the eye and bleed to death before he answers antifaowens question for him.Antifaowens and the rest of his amen corner can post what they like the above is correct fullstop.............."
As you would like to know for yourself,you will be fully aware of the previous posts in regard to the nsiwp/nsp ( Including your comrade sss's posting of a newspaper and stickers from a completely different organisation )

Yes, post 3 in this thread.


Now, I shall say this only once.

I moved the posts because I wanted them moved. I was not asked to move them; this is yet another fallacious statement from yourself. I wanted them moved. So it is now in the correct place. A thread about possible spies in the BNP is not the correct place for debates about PO boxes and stickers that have no connection to the BNP. Now they are no longer in that thread, the thread can continue on topic and there is less likelihood of those illegal stickers being connected to the BNP.

I do not have a leader, as you have already been informed. You may now drop this tedious lie.

I am fully aware that sss managed to get completely the wrong publication last time this came up which is why I would like to see a full scan of the relevant paper for myself, including the publication header or other identifying mark so that I and others can determine if it is the correct one.

sss is my comrade? That alone more than adequately illustrates that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
 
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Outside of the third world care to name a successful politician with a beard ? You have stated here yourself that you are in favour of shaggy unkempt presentations to the public as long as someone proclaims an ideology you agree with.
Monomarks legal communications are to PO Box 12 Mononmarks have done the same as the banks.
Where is your proof that this is a PO box for legal matters to be dealt with? Please check the following link to clarify their address - it is NOT a PO box. Legal papers would be sent to the most 'direct' address source, in this instance it would be a street address which is also the REGISTERED headquarters - again, not any PO box like you state. And besides, it is up to the person issuing the legal papers what address they use and it doesn't take a genius to fathom out you'd use a street address not a PO box (which we've no proof of anyway).

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Yes, post 3 in this thread.


Now, I shall say this only once.

I moved the posts because I wanted them moved. I was not asked to move them; this is yet another fallacious statement from yourself. I wanted them moved. So it is now in the correct place. A thread about possible spies in the BNP is not the correct place for debates about PO boxes and stickers that have no connection to the BNP. Now they are no longer in that thread, the thread can continue on topic and there is less likelihood of those illegal stickers being connected to the BNP.

I do not have a leader, as you have already been informed. You may now drop this tedious lie.

I am fully aware that sss managed to get completely the wrong publication last time this came up which is why I would like to see a full scan of the relevant paper for myself, including the publication header or other identifying mark so that I and others can determine if it is the correct one.

sss is my comrade? That alone more than adequately illustrates that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
The tread is entitled searchlight spies.The sticker issue arose on that thread as a direct result of the flawed and inaccurate intelligence/gossip that antifaowens is presenting as set in stone fact.His amen corner including yourself and you are persisting with inaccurate and fallacious nonesense.The odd thing is aside from that posts there are two others lost among Owens ravings that complete the picture as it were.
Now you have made the nsiwp/nsp uk a seperate issue of your own volition (If not at your leaders command ) Why ? according to your post here it is because it is not related to seachlight spies.It is my contention it is directly related to it.The seachlight spies thread is self evidently designed to bring the Bnp into disrepute.You have allowed antifaowens to spout utter bullshit such as jefferson being released on a technicality where as it was a Judges direction.It was antifaowens who was released on a legal technicality but of course that calls into question your uncritical admiration for antifaowens.
You are supporting and reinforcing the enemies propaganda as presented by antifaowens.It is grotesque and shameful !
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Yet another post full of inaccuracies from yourself. I moved all posts that I considered relevant - if I have missed any, you are free to copy them over yourself.

Again, for those who appear chronically or selectively unable to comprehend select statements: I have no leader and I certainly do not follow "commands" from anyone. The only people who have any capacity to "command" me to do anything in relation to VNN are Alex and varg. I moved the posts of my own volition.

Please tell me how NSPUK stickers and/or PO boxes bear any relation to the British National Party.
 
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Where is your proof that this is a PO box for legal matters to be dealt with? Please check the following link to clarify their address - it is NOT a PO box. Legal papers would be sent to the most 'direct' address source, in this instance it would be a street address which is also the REGISTERED headquarters - again, not any PO box like you state. And besides, it is up to the person issuing the legal papers what address they use and it doesn't take a genius to fathom out you'd use a street address not a PO box (which we've no proof of anyway).

http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/92...40/compdetails
Stop trying to mislead correspondents monomarks original license shows that they comply with all (then) existing laws.It is an uncontestable but interesting fact that most western governments including the US have identical laws rule and regulations for PO Boxes.There is no way around it,which is why one should only use them for legitimate correspondence.Another scam is the "registered publications" supposedly for reduced postage costs all subscribers names and addresses have to be made feely available to the authorities.
It is not secret information it is available to anyone.
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Yet another post full of inaccuracies from yourself. I moved all posts that I considered relevant -
Please tell me how NSPUK stickers and/or PO boxes bear any relation to the British National Party.
Your co backing singer xl raised the issue you endorsed her post with touche !
You and xl contrived to divert antifaowens's bullshit thread I replied you then moved the thread.
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Stop trying to mislead correspondents monomarks original license shows that they comply with all (then) existing laws.It is an uncontestable but interesting fact that most western governments including the US have identical laws rule and regulations for PO Boxes.There is no way around it,which is why one should only use them for legitimate correspondence.Another scam is the "registered publications" supposedly for reduced postage costs all subscribers names and addresses have to be made feely available to the authorities.
It is not secret information it is available to anyone.
YOU stated that legal matters are dealt with via a PO box but haven't provided a shred of proof of this. I have provided irrefutable proof that their address is a street address for all matters. What people choose to send or inded not send through the postal service is their own choice. If they're stupid enough to send illegal items then they're imbeciles full stop. Sending anything through the post to ANY address obviously involves third parties being in posession of said items at numerous points - we all know Royal Mail have sniffer dogs going up and down conveyor belts of post and I know that my mail is frequently intercepted. Only a retard would post something illegal through the post - end of story so stop being a drama queen and provide proof of your claims that all legal matters with BM are dealt with via a PO box.
 
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