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Old February 26th, 2004 #1
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Default From Braveheart to The Passion of The Christ, Gibson proves his worth again...

The Passion of the Christ will leave you drained of all emotions; it will make you feel like you experienced something much more than a movie. You know how good Braveheart was and how the characters came alive – well, Mel has out done himself with the ‘Passion.’
Mr. Gibson has literally made the story of Christ’s suffering come to life; it will take you over in certain parts. He is damn good at what he does – every white person should go see this movie! You must see it for yourself to appreciate his genius.
Also, I don’t think anyone could have done a better job portraying Christ than James Caviezel – he truly was supreme.
 
Old February 26th, 2004 #2
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Yes it is true that Mel dutifully and repeatedly genuflects to the Holy6M, but he nonetheless does also admirably and loyally defend his father, saying, among other things, "he never lied to me."
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Old February 26th, 2004 #3
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As for this Gibson whoreship in a interview he cleary STATED THAT RACISM AND ANTI-SEMITISM IS A SIN!
It never fails.. some of these rightwingers always get duped by the christian conservatives.
 
Old February 26th, 2004 #4
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People, please stop placing anti-semitism and White Nationalism into this movie where there is none. Those who are doing so appear as they are, self-deluded, or just trying to proselytize.

The kikes are simply overreaching with their hysterical complaints of "Anti-Semitism" as muds often do with "racism," and it backfired on them with the vast majority of kike-worshiping Christians.
 
Old February 26th, 2004 #5
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I liked Braveheart, but did not, like the fact that it showed old Longshanks in such a bad light. After all he was the English Warrior King who kicked out the jews from England. It was that christian nut Cromwell who let them back in and was reponsible for British israelism which is manifested in ci kooky ways. The Mad Max movies were cool too. As for this Gibson whoreship in a interview he cleary STATED THAT RACISM AND ANTI-SEMITISM IS A SIN! Atleast his old man Hutton has a pair that Gibson seems to be lacking. Oh yea and for the jew jesus was Aryan and for Aryans only jokers. Gibson STATED THAT JESUS DIED FOR ALL HUMANITY. How marxist ick!




Cromwell was a traitor to his race and his God. Cromwell murdered a righteous king and allowed the Jews back into England. But he was not a Christian!
Who do you think financed his revolution? The Jews! Cromwell hid behind Christianity just like the leftist hides behind all those self-righteous causes, when, in reality, they do the thing they are preaching against. Ye shall know them by their fruits.
 
Old February 26th, 2004 #6
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I think Mel is a stud.

I found the movie moving. Ok, bad pun. I was deeply moved. The story of Christ is the archetype of any truth-teller who offends the narrow interests of the Jews and conspiratorial control of the state.

I found the movie eerily suggestive of the current day. An Aryan-run polyglot empire, with its most annoying problems in the middle east. Some very positive spiritual-philosophical arena developing and spreading, and the Jews fighting those truths with their worst efforts. Aryans perplexed at what to do, and left doing the bidding of crafty hooknoses.

How prescient is that? That's the pattern of European civilization ever since.

Christianity is worth further study. You guys dismissing it as a Jew cult are really oversimplifying things. That may be useful to dislodge simple minded folk from the ranks of the televangelists, but there are streams within the larger current of Christianity that deserve respect and consideration. Mel has exemplified one such stream.

As for the movie, I found most interesting the way Mary saw her son, and we saw what she saw. Mary, the archetype of a good mother and much more. That alone was worth seeing the movie for. Also, the depiction of the Romans was very subtle. You could feel both the shared Roman virtue, the clean-handed Aryan cruelty, and also the undercurrent of Mithraism lending the legionaires a better appreciation of the happenings than the parochial Jews.

I was not disappointed.
 
Old February 26th, 2004 #7
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It's a possibility, but Mel's father being an anti-semite does not mean his son is one as well. My parents are both liberal Democrats. Plus, his father, at least from what I heard him say, never brought up race. There are people who are non-racialist anti-semites.

I believe Mel gets his religious belief from his wife, and not his dad, anyway.

It's only a hunch, but going by what I've seen of Mel Gibson and his movies, he had a vehement hatred for White South Africans in the 1980s when he was at his height as a Hollywood superstar.
 
Old February 27th, 2004 #8
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It's a possibility, but Mel's father being an anti-semite does not mean his son is one as well. My parents are both liberal Democrats. Plus, his father, at least from what I heard him say, never brought up race. There are people who are non-racialist anti-semites.

I believe Mel gets his religious belief from his wife, and not his dad, anyway.

It's only a hunch, but going by what I've seen of Mel Gibson and his movies, he had a vehement hatred for White South Africans in the 1980s when he was at his height as a Hollywood superstar.

I was waiting for someone to bring that up. Mel Gibson is a Hollyjew punk. He and Danny Glover are real good buddies. They like to fight evil Nazis together. His acting is not far from reflections of his real life. He did one good movie. Ever.

As far as his ' I'm an anti-semitic-N.W.O. aware Jesus loving trip", all it amounts to is one of those " I have sinned-all-my-life-born-agian " rich and famous bullshit. Mel tells us how the evil ways led him nowhere, so know he want's to try and be a christian.

Go fuck yourself Mel.
 
Old February 27th, 2004 #9
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God and anti-Judaism



What did those ugly, beastly, little, Hollywood, so-called Jews do to Mel?
Whatever it was, this Golem, Mel Gibson, has repaid them in kind. Sure, he
tried to make last minute concessions and his indulgences are obvious. But
just look at what Mel Gibson has done.

He was trained by Jews using their technology, and methods. He learned from
them how to grab the innermost sensual organ of the human spirit and squeeze
from it the very last drop of commiseration. He took their money, which they
had given him, and their tools, and used them to promote, glorify, Deify,
the God that these so-called Jews hate, vehemently abhor.

Oh, sweet joys of this world! It galls them so! They can’t stand it. People
are crying, hugging one another, rereading the Gospels, before and after
seeing Mel’s movie. They are standing-up in these vulgar temples of
sacrilege that we call theaters, and in loud voices they are praising
Christ Jesus.

Of course, the movie is anti-Semitic. It is also anti-Roman and anti-sinner,
but most importantly, it is anti-Judaism.

It is the greatest nightmare for Judaism since the Apostle Paul was knocked
from his donkey on the road to Damascus. Did you see what I saw? Did you
hear what I heard? I doubt it, but keep reading and I will show you the
hand of God in Mel Gibson’s miraculous movie.

Let us first show pity for our poor enemies, because Jesus told us to do it,
and it was one of the few, after-thought, compromises made by Gibson.

Idiot Children Screaming

I’ve always despised Abe Foxman, and if I told you what I have wished for
him, it would require intemperate language, and would distract from this
article, so I won’t do it. My opinion of Abe has not changed; however, I
came out of the theater feeling sorry for him.

Why? Because, of the agony of defeat. You know how you feel pity for the
skier who misses the jump and breaks his silly neck on the side of the ski
route. Well, that is how I feel for Foxman.

Abraham Foxman played his part in this drama by the book. He went after Mel,
Mel’s family, Mel’s religion, Mel’s friends, Mel’s intellect, Mel’s intentions,
and Mel’s God, by the book, with the same alacrity and methodology that he
has used a thousand times, but it didn’t work. Poor baby!

He pulled the anti-Semite card, the pogrom card, the blood libel card, the
Holocaust card, the Muslims hate us and will use this movie card, and he
still had a losing hand.

This campaign of hate reached its zenith just before show time. So infantile
were the bowel complaints of these so-called Jews that it made one recall
their childhood trips to a kindergarten play ground and squeaky, whiney voices
saying things like, "My daddy can whip your daddy, no he can’t, yes he can."

Even so-called Christian leaders joined in the fray. But alas, put a Christian
on a spit, and you can always get another Christian to turn him. The pre-Passion
show was outstanding and I can hardly wait for the reviews.

Please Jesus, keep Foxman out front, on TV everyday, twenty-four hours, seven
days and all year round. Let him spew his senseless venom from his dirty perch
at the ADL, forever. Amen.

Give us Abraham! I do not want the so-called Jewish community to regain their
composure. I do not want them to remove from view people like Abe Foxman, Marvin
Hier, Jacko Mason and that gaggle of rancorous NY Rabbis. My greatest fear is
that they will replace these clowns with calmer, smarter, Christ-haters.

Today Ash Wednesday, year of our Lord, 2004, the basest elements of the anti-Christ
army has crawled from their lurking places into full view and are making noises
like an idiot child screaming in a hospital.

Even those who try to maintain a soupcon of self-control betray themselves, and
their tribe, by being so damnably transparent. Look into their eyes, and you are
looking into the dark soul of Joe Caiaphas clones.

This seething, just-below-the-surface, nervous hostility, in these odious vermin
should be obvious to even the dumbest among us. They hate your Christ, they hate
you, and they hate Mel Gibson with a perfect hate.

You are guilty, along with the Gibson family of a long list of cardinal, no,
unpardonable sins. Chief among these transgressions is your defiance. Just as
Christ dragged Himself to His feet at the whipping post, you have stood-up, out
of your stupor, and spoke to the manipulating Jew, with your feet marching to
the theater, and with your purses buying all those tickets.

But your most prodigious crime is that you have stolen control, first degree
control-theft, you and Mel have disallowed the so-called Jew to control the past
and they hate losing control.

Who controls the past, controls the future; who controls the present, controls the past.

You have defied the Jew’s control. You have denied them their self-appointed position
as elite New Testament scholars. You slapped their collective faces by not letting
them interpret the Gospels for you.

And for the moment, you have stopped them from completely hi-jacking Christianity.

You seem to be saying, control other histories, control other records, papers,
documents, but keep your filthy hands off our story, our Gospels.

And for the first time I burst with pride for you. Can we build on this, please,
don’t stop, feel the freedom, you have thrown off a few of your chains, and tasted
something very special, you now have property, you own the New Covenant.

You saw it as it was purchased for you with the blood of Christ. You watched God
and Christ destroy Judaism, don’t ever again let demons tell you how to think
about the Gospels and Gospel writers.

Abe Foxman was so worried about the curse of the blood, "Let His blood be upon us
and our children," well, no blood, no curse, has gotten on old Abe. What he did get
was egg in the face!

His own tribe has turned on him like hyenas. He is said to have let Mel Gibson "trick
him, Jew-bait him into helping promote this film." I love it! I love it! Just the
thought of a Jew telling Abe Foxman that he "might as well have been working for
Gibson," sends me soul soaring!

There, there, pitiful baby, don’t cry Abe. They say that you are an embarrassment
to all Jews, but this mitzvah for Jesus and Gibson will be like bread upon the waters.

Stop it Jim, enough. You are enjoying your silly self too much. Get back on point.

Theological pygmies, some even on this side of the spectrum, completely missed the
climactic victory depicted in this great film. What you saw when the sky darkened,
when Christ cried, "It is finished," was the first pictures of the destruction of
Judaism.

God and His Son began by tearing the temple apart, cutting the veil from top to
bottom, emptying it of any authority, meaning, or reason for being, and only a
few years latter finished the job by using Titus and Vespasian.

All the pain, suffering and gore had its climax in what would today be called a
hate crime but this was desecration of a place of worship by the Almighty God
Himself, Blessed be He. God has a lesson for you in replacement-theology. God,
the anti-Judaism God, is trying to tell you something. Stay tuned.


End of Part 1

James Floyd


Writer’s notes:

Jews are now objecting because Gibson gave no reason for Jesus being arrested.
See John 11:47-52 and remember Christ went after the money-changers at least twice.

Jews say that Pilate was not apt to do the biddings of the High Priest, see J
osephus, Book XVIII, Ch. III here he succumbs to the demand to remove Caesar’s
effigies, which were upon his ensigns, out of the city. He caved in to these Jews.

See Josephus, Book XVIII, Ch. II, The name of the High Priest is given as ‘Joseph
Caiaphas.’

Attempts to keep children from seeing Mel’s movie continue. Yet, I have been
unable to bar Holocaust ‘R’ rated material from our elementary schools. What could
be more disgusting than this iconical worship of seventy year old corpses forced
upon our children?

So called Christian TV preachers are telling their sheep everyday to pray for
Jerusalem. I’m telling you to cuss the place every chance you get.

The system that "was, is not, but will be." is Judaism and the Great Whore is
Jerusalem.

Stop trying to make Mel Gibson into something he is not. He is not a theologian.
Take what we have been given and use it.

--JF
 
Old February 27th, 2004 #10
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Well I for one wouldn't miss an opportunity to see this movie. In fact I'm renting a Roman Centurion costume and will make sure I get seated next to a Church group so I can laugh at all the appropriate places in the movie. Of course I will be ordering popcorn...still there won't be much of a climax in the end and in my opinion the best part of the "greatest story ever told"..... Jesus DIES!
 
Old February 27th, 2004 #11
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Well I for one wouldn't miss an opportunity to see this movie. In fact I'm renting a Roman Centurion costume and will make sure I get seated next to a Church group so I can laugh at all the appropriate places in the movie. Of course I will be ordering popcorn...still there won't be much of a climax in the end and in my opinion the best part of the "greatest story ever told"..... Jesus DIES!

The movie is wrong, it was not the Roman soldiers that beat and crucified Jesus - it was the Pharisee’s soldiers who did this dirty work.
By the way, wolfgar, be careful you don't choke to death on any of that popcorn. That would be a great loss, indeed.
 
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Thats smart. I wonder how much your bail will be ?
Nothing I said was endorsing illegal activity. People dress up for movies all the time, such as Star Wars or Lord of the Rings. As far as being obnoxious in a theater, just wait until you get next to a mixed race group of church going Baptist.
 
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I think the Hoffmesiter critique of The Passion in VNN today is somewhat off base.

I haven't decided whether to see the movie, but in any case, it was not Caiphas (or Caiaphas as he spells it) who cried the key words ("His blood be on us..."), it was the Jewish crowd. See Matthew ch. 27. My understanding is that the phrase is in fact in the film but is not translated via subtitles, which in a way is worse.

As for the depiction of Jews as positive, one must remember that these are Semitic pre-Diaspora Jews, not the descendents of Eastern European or Slavic Jews that we know today. A different breed entirely as far as any Christian is concerned. A lot of history has passed in making the Jews of today what they are. I think it makes sense that Gibson, like Zefferelli, would choose to depict them as pious pre-Christians, as it were. Jews, after all, wrote all of the New Testament other than Luke's gospel.

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Yes it is true that Mel dutifully and repeatedly genuflects to the Holy6M, but he nonetheless does also admirably and loyally defend his father, saying, among other things, "he never lied to me."
But the *way* in which he does it is awesome and worthy of emulation, in my opinion. He certainly knows the truth about the HoloHoax. Here's what he said to Diane Sawyer:

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Gibson raised hackles recently with published statements in which he noted Holocaust victims were among many victims of World War II. He told Sawyer he doesn't mean to deny either that the Holocaust occurred or that there were millions killed.

"Do I believe that there were concentration camps where defenseless and innocent Jews died cruelly under the Nazi regime? Of course I
do; absolutely," he said. "It was an atrocity of monumental proportion."
Now THAT's a good answer. Acknowledge *just enough* so that many Jews and most Sheeple are satisfied, but stop well short of acknowledging the lies of the Gas Chambers and whatnot. That's the same answer that I would give in his situation. "Yes, there were concentration camps, and yes, many Jews died there." No "Death camps", no gas chambers, no planned mass executions. Just "a lot of them died". I.e., the TRUTH. Nobody can deny that many Jews died of starvation and disease in the concentration camps. And that's exactly what Mel has acknowledged, nothing more.

Given his *extreme* choosiness about his words when discussing the HoloHoax, I have no doubt that Mel knows the truth. I'm willing to bet that his experience with the Passion will leave him emboldened, and perhaps he will create more movies that upset the Jews. We can only hope!
 
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I still don't think for a moment that Mel's a White Nationalist of any sort, and anyways, if any converts to racialism were made from this flick it would be the type of stereotypical-racialists most other racialists think are embarrassing. You know, the religious type: I hate the jews 'cause they killed my lord & savior!

Though it's funny as hell to read the hysterical reaction of jews on the Net, especially after some reverend put up a "Jews killed Christ" marquee. They're losing it, and that's the only good thing the movie can do.

In fact, this movie may reinforce the idea with the White goy that anti-semitism is spawned from superstitious religious wackos, and is not rational in a secular way.
 
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I still don't think for a moment that Mel's a White Nationalist of any sort
I agree, but I do think that he at least knows which way the wind's blowing when it comes to Jews and the Holocaust in particular.
 
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Given his *extreme* choosiness about his words when discussing the HoloHoax, I have no doubt that Mel knows the truth. I'm willing to bet that his experience with the Passion will leave him emboldened, and perhaps he will create more movies that upset the Jews. We can only hope!
Given the dearth of positive Christian films today, that would be my hope as well. I think there's a vaccuum out there that needs to be filmed.

Elsewhere, I have recommended the movie "Black Robe", that came out of Canada in the early 90's. That's the last positive movie I recall involving the Church. Maybe Mel could buy the rights and re-release it.
 
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