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Old January 11th, 2014 #41
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what more need be said?

How about stating evidence that Strom's vindictive wife didn't plant child porn on Strom's computer, since she's the one who reported it to the JOG in order to get him arrested.

As for the photos of Strom, if you photo-shopped them and placed a U-boat commander's uniform and cap on him, no one would think them unusual. He does, however, look a bit feminine in the photos, though. But no one even suggests he's a faggot so what's the point ??
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Old January 11th, 2014 #42
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Where are these court documents?
I didn't say I'd seen court documents. I've read testimony - reports - from people who went to the court and sat in the spectators bit. Their reports tally pretty much with what his wife was posting here on VNN. Search VNN - it's all there in past threads.
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Old January 11th, 2014 #43
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Saw it. Was trying to ignore it, but if you insist.



What the fuck is wrong with you?

Learn how to fuckin read and comprehend, please. I see now what your dumbass problem is. It's Websites, not that I have no problem with pedos, fuck stick. I wrote that I have no problem usually knowing queer or Pedo oriented websitetes.
 
Old January 11th, 2014 #44
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I didn't say I'd seen court documents. I've read testimony - reports - from people who went to the court and sat in the spectators bit. Their reports tally pretty much with what his wife was posting here on VNN. Search VNN - it's all there in past threads.

That observer was Bill White, no?
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Old January 11th, 2014 #45
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I didn't say I'd seen court documents. I've read testimony - reports - from people who went to the court and sat in the spectators bit. Their reports tally pretty much with what his wife was posting here on VNN. Search VNN - it's all there in past threads.
So in other words you know just what you have read second or third hand on internet forum sites. That's exactly what I'm talking about and my point. You don't know what happened as opposed to what some people have said.
 
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is he into kids or not?
 
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what more need be said?

Look at him i am so Gay
 
Old January 11th, 2014 #48
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So in other words you know just what you have read second or third hand on internet forum sites. That's exactly what I'm talking about and my point. You don't know what happened as opposed to what some people have said.

OK, so I discount corroborating statements from his wife and spectators.


Did you listen to the tape recording of him admitting it?

Did you see the contract agreeing to get help that he signed?

At what point should I discount those as second or third hand?

At what point do I discount the fact that he pleaded guilty?
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Old January 11th, 2014 #49
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Look, guilty or not, at the end of the day:

The NA will have to answer all these questions or face all this sort of talk or counteract printouts of the Megans Law entry every time they do/say/produce anything.

People joining/contacting the NA have to accept that the police can and will inspect the computers at any time they choose.

Is, therefore, this man a net positive for the successful relaunch of the group?

Own goal springs to mind.
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Rounder, you must be fucking senile to be taking up the cudgels in Strom's defence. Strom himself admitted to these offences - never mind being found guilty in a court of law. He copped a plea so the judge would go easy on him.

Furthermore, it's hard not to see Strom's re-entry into WN politics as a deliberate attempt to bring disrepute onto the Movement - and likewise, your attempted 'defence' of Strom.
 
Old January 11th, 2014 #51
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is he into kids or not?
put it this way: he may or may not have acted on his impulses as of yet but he probably hears Chris Matthew's voice saying, "why don't you have a seat over there" in his worst nightmares.
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Kevin pleaded guilty to possession of child porn. He admitted he had possession because the child porn was on his computer. But he has always maintained he didn't know it was there, and that his vindictive, vengeful wife put it there just to spite him.
"Concerns relating to my paedophilia". That's what that contract says, IN HIS OWN WORDS. It's pretty hard to put a positive spin on that, isn't it, Rounder?
 
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I would laugh if it wasn't such a terrible thing.
Find other guy for the national alliance damn. guilty or not, he does not help at all.
 
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.....and how is that girl mistaken for a TEN year old in anyone's reality?


I would put her at 16/17 which is fine by my English standards.
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You don't plead guilty to something like child porn unless you did it. End of story.
You've lived a sheltered and protected life then.

But I think Strom was guilty as plead. That was possession of something like 10 underage porn images out of 10000 pornos on his computer.

Link to the article Rounder quoted:

http://www.charlottesvilletimes.com/...ed-strom-case/
 
Old January 11th, 2014 #57
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OK, so I discount corroborating statements from his wife and spectators.


Did you listen to the tape recording of him admitting it?

Did you see the contract agreeing to get help that he signed?

At what point should I discount those as second or third hand?

At what point do I discount the fact that he pleaded guilty?
Look Bev, the guy was desperately trying to prevent 10 freakin years in a nigger infested prison, while branded a child molester, which would amount to a virtual death sentence.

The only way to prevent that, was to get the court to accept his offer to plead guilty to one count of possession of child porn, rather than face a JOG jury and defend against 6 freakin counts - a conviction on just one count could result in 10 years in prison.

In order to get the court's acceptance, Strom was compelled by his wife and prosecutors to confess other things on tape, which may or may not have been true. In other words, his wife probably said, "OK, I'll let him plea bargain, if he'll . . . . ". And so Kevin did. And frankly, any sane WN leader would have, under those circumstances.

Why can't you see this ??
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Old January 11th, 2014 #58
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There's always an excuse.

He pleaded guilty to avoid prison. (Strom)

I snitched on my comrades to avoid prison. (Rounder)

But there's no standards, no prior thought, no sense of certain actions being inexcusable no matter what your motivation was for them - is there?
 
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.....and how is that girl mistaken for a TEN year old in anyone's reality?


I would put her at 16/17 which is fine by my English standards.
Well, I said this in my other post, but I feel compelled to mention that possession of nude pictures of a 16 year old is considered child porn in the eyes of the law.
 
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Default Strom's Address To The Court After 16 Months in Prison

http://www.kevinalfredstrom.com/2009...-to-the-court/

All sincere WNs should read and digest Strom's side of the story, before making judgement. It's only fair.
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