9/11 Jewish Involvement Thread (Post it Here)

[M. Issig]

Originally Posted by Bernie

On 911 a photograph was taken of a Jet Engine lying in Murray Street. After a short while, Boeing Pilots and Boeing Mechanics identified that engine as a smaller one from a B737, about the size of a wheeled garbage bin, NOT from a B767 whose engines are HUGE, the size of a small truck. ....

I was an FAA air traffic controller at one time. "Full-performance-level" is what they called those of us who were completely qualified, i.e. certified at all control positions. Prior to that, I was a combat air controller in the Navy aboard a carrier. All this is only to say that I have seen and experienced quite a lot in the way of civil and military aviation. Later in life, I also did some construction engineering, including several types of concrete and steel bridge structures.

I doubted the official story since day one. The more I heard or read, the more my doubt was confirmed.

What prompted me to respond to your particular post is mention of the Boeing 737.

Let us take for granted that I have flash recognition of aircraft types. Kind of goes along with the work I once did. The first image I saw on television of that aircraft hitting the tower, my mind identified it as a 737. However, your post is the first I have seen a 737 mentioned.

On another but related topic, we had remote-control systems of our aircraft in the Navy fleet as early as 1973. The system was called Link 4A or "Dolly." On recovery aboard the carrier, the system was so exact that the aircraft would hit the same spot on the flight deck every time. Among the reasons I remember this is because a computer programmer had to tweak the software so recovering aircraft would not hit the same spot. The fear was that it would over-stress the flight deck. So, it does not surprise me in the least that aircraft could be remotely and precisely controlled to collide with those towers.

There are other aspects of my experiences and the events of 9/11 that place me with the disbelievers.

That people continue to support the official story is amusing. If I were younger, I would probably be very angry.

[M. Issig]

Originally Posted by Gibson

Here are some counter-arguments for you to play with. ....

In the sixth video they say no barium was discovered, which is not true.

[Bernie]

Originally Posted by M. Issig

What prompted me to respond to your particular post is mention of the Boeing 737.

Let us take for granted that I have flash recognition of aircraft types. Kind of goes along with the work I once did. The first image I saw on television of that aircraft hitting the tower, my mind identified it as a 737. However, your post is the first I have seen a 737 mentioned.

On another but related topic, we had remote-control systems of our aircraft in the Navy fleet as early as 1973. The system was called Link 4A or "Dolly." On recovery aboard the carrier, the system was so exact that the aircraft would hit the same spot on the flight deck every time. Among the reasons I remember this is because a computer programmer had to tweak the software so recovering aircraft would not hit the same spot. The fear was that it would over-stress the flight deck. So, it does not surprise me in the least that aircraft could be remotely and precisely controlled to collide with those towers.

I've always believed there were no hijackers, especially excitable Arab hijackers, unable to fly a Cessna, indeed one of them so mechanically incompetent, he couldn't drive a car!

If I were a 911 perp I'd want certainty, that way was not certainty, but it's what the REAL 911 perps want the boobs to believe.

All the airports from which departed the allegedly hijacked aircraft had security controlled by an ISRAELI company! Why bother hijacking a plane when you can easily install your OWN PILOTS on the 'real' planes?

When this all comes out, here's about what happened:

That's what they did, install probably ISRAELI Pilots. The (New York) planes took off and moments later their transponders were manually turned off. (All this while a 'security drill' involving multiple hijackings was taking place on the day!!!!!) Then it descended rapidly, Pilots telling passengers 'we regret a minor engine fault will need attention'. They landed it at a nearby little used military airfield where a reception committee in FBI uniform was waiting.

At the same time as the 'real' planes descended, the remotely piloted B737's entered the same airspace obviously without transponders on, so confused air traffic controllers will have assumed was whatever they would assume in those pressured moments, but it was certain confusion reigned.

Now they introduce the frantic and dramatic FAKE cell phone calls from the planes. As Jesse Ventura has just demonstrated, voice morphing technology exists which can turn a gentle Asian Hostess's squeaky falsetto, into Jesse's own manly baritone, so convincingly, his mother would swear it was Jesse's voice, on a stack of bibles!

So within the first hour of 911 the deceptive Zionist Media possesses all the ingredients to place suicidal fanatic Arab hijackers into the collective public mind. That is a weapon more powerful than an Atomic bomb.

Enter the two B737's, remotely piloted, probably filled with as much Jet Fuel as possible for dramatic effect. Both are fitted with what you describe as Link 4A or 'Dolly' remote control technology and both are 'seeking' a homing transmitter planted high up on the the WTC Towers.

Of course their impact has little effect on the massive structures, but that was never the intent. Their function was to confuse the gently grazing, taxpaying sheeple into believing the Media's Osama bin Laden fairy tale. The buildings were expertly demolished by, as we now know for certain, weapons grade Nano-Thermate, samples of which can still be found in the dust all over Manhattan!

Obviously I don't know what terrible fate befell Pilots and passengers of the 'real' New York planes. A brave widow Ellen Mariani (?) who lost her husband on one of the flights, never accepted the Governments hush money. She had an attorney help her find the truth for years. Along the way she discovers something passing strange: Searching for relatives of the victims listed on the passenger list along with her late husband, all eligible for the compensation she herself declined, she finds not one of them had a single relative who claimed. She then finds she could not trace any actual relatives of these poor souls at all, anywhere!

[Fred O'Malley]

Originally Posted by M. Issig

I was an FAA air traffic controller at one time. "Full-performance-level" is what they called those of us who were completely qualified, i.e. certified at all control positions. Prior to that, I was a combat air controller in the Navy aboard a carrier. All this is only to say that I have seen and experienced quite a lot in the way of civil and military aviation. Later in life, I also did some construction engineering, including several types of concrete and steel bridge structures.

I doubted the official story since day one. The more I heard or read, the more my doubt was confirmed.

What prompted me to respond to your particular post is mention of the Boeing 737.

Let us take for granted that I have flash recognition of aircraft types. Kind of goes along with the work I once did. The first image I saw on television of that aircraft hitting the tower, my mind identified it as a 737. However, your post is the first I have seen a 737 mentioned.

On another but related topic, we had remote-control systems of our aircraft in the Navy fleet as early as 1973. The system was called Link 4A or "Dolly." On recovery aboard the carrier, the system was so exact that the aircraft would hit the same spot on the flight deck every time. Among the reasons I remember this is because a computer programmer had to tweak the software so recovering aircraft would not hit the same spot. The fear was that it would over-stress the flight deck. So, it does not surprise me in the least that aircraft could be remotely and precisely controlled to collide with those towers.

There are other aspects of my experiences and the events of 9/11 that place me with the disbelievers.

That people continue to support the official story is amusing. If I were younger, I would probably be very angry.

Thank you for posting, very informative and rock solid.

[Roy]

Originally Posted by M. Issig

I was an FAA air traffic controller at one time. "Full-performance-level" is what they called those of us who were completely qualified, i.e. certified at all control positions. Prior to that, I was a combat air controller in the Navy aboard a carrier. All this is only to say that I have seen and experienced quite a lot in the way of civil and military aviation. Later in life, I also did some construction engineering, including several types of concrete and steel bridge structures.

I doubted the official story since day one. The more I heard or read, the more my doubt was confirmed.

What prompted me to respond to your particular post is mention of the Boeing 737.

Let us take for granted that I have flash recognition of aircraft types. Kind of goes along with the work I once did. The first image I saw on television of that aircraft hitting the tower, my mind identified it as a 737. However, your post is the first I have seen a 737 mentioned.

On another but related topic, we had remote-control systems of our aircraft in the Navy fleet as early as 1973. The system was called Link 4A or "Dolly." On recovery aboard the carrier, the system was so exact that the aircraft would hit the same spot on the flight deck every time. Among the reasons I remember this is because a computer programmer had to tweak the software so recovering aircraft would not hit the same spot. The fear was that it would over-stress the flight deck. So, it does not surprise me in the least that aircraft could be remotely and precisely controlled to collide with those towers.

There are other aspects of my experiences and the events of 9/11 that place me with the disbelievers.

That people continue to support the official story is amusing. If I were younger, I would probably be very angry.

Thank you very much for posting.

The auto-pilot method of hijacking the airplanes does tie up many loose ends. In particular the stories of the "hijackers" being found alive and well. Also, if the government really believed that the attacks were due to Arab terrorists, they would have acted accordingly, i.e. closing the border between the US and Mexico within a week.

You see, the government's actions (or lack there-of) are incriminating.

Incidentally, the wing-span of a Boeing 737 is well known, as is the breadth of the WTC buildings. A photo-analysis could be done to compare the size of the hole with the known wing-span of a 737.

[Fred O'Malley]

His "eye witness" account also clarifies the 737 engine found at the scene.

[Pat Healey]

We don't buy

The9/11Lie

[littlefieldjohn]

Originally Posted by Pat Healey

We don't buy

The9/11Lie

Psychotic Jews, at least one of them, Larry Silverstein, got sloppy with WTC 7.

This may be posted somewhere else but clink the link for a review of the Griffen book.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=15230

[littlefieldjohn]

Quote:
In Chapter 8, “The Initiation and Spread of Fires: NIST’s Unempirical Account,” Griffin examines closely NIST’s claim that the fires in WTC 7 started as a result of the rain of debris which hit the building when the North Tower disintegrated and fell. He shows that NIST’s claims that fires in the building started at this time ( 10:28 AM ) are unsubstantiated, and that the fires therefore could not have burned for as long as NIST contended they did. He points out that NIST itself admitted that most of the fires in the building may have started quite a bit later in the day, in the middle and late afternoon, and thus have burned for less than three hours and even as little as 40 minutes.

In Chapter 9, “Fire and Steel Temperatures: Implausible Claims Based on Distorted Data,” Griffin shows that NIST’s claims regarding the temperatures reached by the fires themselves and the steel structure of the building exposed to those fires are both wildly exaggerated. This extreme overestimation was made possible by the use of computer models, which were manipulated by NIST “investigators” to achieve the desired result (the agency had used the same method in its earlier reports on the destruction of the Twin Towers ). There is in fact no evidence to support the fire temperatures or the fire durations claimed by NIST. In a similar manner, NIST “simulated” the temperatures reached by the steel structure of the building, and claimed wildly implausible temperatures for which there is no actual evidence, based on the assumption (contrary to fact) that steel has no thermal conductivity!

In Chapter 10, “From Thermal Expansion to Global Collapse: Fabrications and Contradictions,” Griffin shreds the last pillar of NIST’s account: its claim that thermal expansion of steel floor beams and girders caused “global collapse.” He shows that this claim is based on highly implausible assumptions, outright fabrications, denial of the existence of structural elements that did in fact exist, and fabrication of a “differential thermal expansion” result from its computer simulations by modeling heating of the steel beams but not of the floor slabs! Griffin delivers the coup de grace by showing that NIST was forced to admit that WTC 7 did indeed fall at free-fall speed for more than two seconds during its collapse, which would only be possible if all resistance to the fall had been eliminated by removal of the lower portion of the building by explosives. This demonstrates that NIST has resorted to a miraculous “explanation” of the collapse of Building 7, in which no explosives were used and yet free-fall still occurred, and has thus violated the scientific principles of non-contradiction and impermissibility of claims implying that laws of nature have been violated.

[Alexander M.]

http://careandwashingofthebrain.blog...to-debris.html

[Pat Healey]

9/11 Was Just a Tool Enabling a Larger Strategy


Our enemy has already considered the outcomes of several different eventualities.

Their war-gaming of various scenarios has prepared them with alternative action plans.

I don’t know what they are, of course – but I do understand their prime motive. And that is to remain in a position enabling them to have control over your National currency and all of the wonderful things they were able to buy with your money.

Smokescreeens
They will try to put up as many smokescreens as possible to distract from their central motive. Smokescreens such as:

Race conflict,
Class conflict,
War,
Economic disturbance, etc.

Take Their Power Away
We, as a people – must abolish this present money system, by any means necessary. But abolishing it isn’t enough. We need to replace is with a money system that helps our people.

This is possible to do – and has been done in Germany.

In Germany, Hitler based his currency on “Domestic Production”.

German money was NOT based on Gold.

German money was NOT based on Silver.

German money was NOT based on any precious metal commodity that the Jews could purchase and therefore price-manipulate.

German money was NOT based on debt to private Jewish bankers….as United States currency is today.

Arbeit Macht Frei
Hitler based his currency on “Work”. Each dollar placed into circulation had to be “backed” by a dollars worth of domestically produced goods, or services.

The phrase "ARBIET MACHT FREI" means "WORK FREES", or "WORK SHALL SET YOU FREE".

"Arbeit Macht Frei" meant that a money system based on "work" (Domestic Prodution) shall set you free from the Jews.

Now, you know why the Jews attempted to transform "Arbeit Macht Frei" into some sort of slur aimed at imaginary "Holocaust" victims.

That is how Hitler resurrected the Germany economy.

“International Capital” a.k.a “The Jewish Money Conspiracy” knew that Hitler’s MONEY POLICY was a direct assault on their ability to enslave nations.

And that is the “WHY” behind WW2.

We Need Change
Perhaps there are things about National Socialism that some find distasteful. Many “opinions” about National Socialism are not based on factual analysis – but on Steven Spielberg movies and Jewish textbooks. I’m not saying that National Socialism is the answer – but I am saying that we should study it – because it worked.

I think we could use some of the principles of National Socialism within the framework of our Constitutional Republic. But the core issue here is the role that money plays in society.

Most of us take “money” as a given…without really thinking about the system behind it. The system we have today is totally corrupt and is working against us for the enrichment and empowerment of our Jewish enemies.

Let’s go kick some Jew ass.

We don't buy

The9/11Lie


BUT,

Our Money System is the Problem

LET'S FIX IT

[22 G]

YouTube - Ehud Barak interview, BBC, 11:29, 9/11

YouTube - Ehud Barak interview, BBC, 11:29, 9/11

30secs in , this kike Say's (We will know who did it ) Within... 12hrs

aye him and his fucking mate's...

[Pat Healey]

Originally Posted by 22 G

YouTube - Ehud Barak interview, BBC, 11:29, 9/11

30secs in , this kike Say's (We will know who did it ) Within... 12hrs

aye him and his fucking mate's...

Let’s go kick some Jew ass.

We don't buy

The9/11Lie


BUT,

Our Money System is the Problem

LET'S FIX IT

[Fred O'Malley]

ANOTHER RESULT OF HAVING JEWS INSIDE AMERICA

[Pat Healey]

Originally Posted by Fred O'Malley

ANOTHER RESULT OF HAVING JEWS INSIDE AMERICA

The Jews are behind all that shit.

[Bernie]

Originally Posted by Pat Healey

The Jews are behind all that shit.

It's true, they really are FOUL. With illegal immigrants you have and instant underclass which can be directed against the majority to weaken and divide.

But if a neighbor of yours released a bag filled with Rats onto your property every night while you were asleep, who would you blame, the Rats or the neighbor?

[AussieWN]

Originally Posted by Bernie

Obviously I don't know what terrible fate befell Pilots and passengers of the 'real' New York planes. A brave widow Ellen Mariani (?) who lost her husband on one of the flights, never accepted the Governments hush money. She had an attorney help her find the truth for years. Along the way she discovers something passing strange: Searching for relatives of the victims listed on the passenger list along with her late husband, all eligible for the compensation she herself declined, she finds not one of them had a single relative who claimed. She then finds she could not trace any actual relatives of these poor souls at all, anywhere!

You raise an interesting point about the people that were supposed to be on the flights. Over the years,I have not heard any screams of outrage from relatives wanting to know what happened to their loved ones on that day. What happened to all the passengers that were on the flights?. I have seen supposed footage of wrecked aircraft at the Pentagon and the flight that crashed in Pennsylvania
but I never saw photo`s that included the remains of bodies at either site.

[MikeTodd]

Same with survivors of the victims of OKC. No screams of getting-to-the-bottom-of-this-outrage there either. No hue and cry as the evidence was quickly carted off to 'spare the feelings' of the families.
Even if everything was on the up and up you would think there would be at least one obstinate asshole acting as a fly in the ointment.

[littlefieldjohn]

Originally Posted by Pat Healey

9/11 Was Just a Tool Enabling a Larger Strategy


Our enemy has already considered the outcomes of several different eventualities.

Their war-gaming of various scenarios has prepared them with alternative action plans.

I don’t know what they are, of course – but I do understand their prime motive. And that is to remain in a position enabling them to have control over your National currency and all of the wonderful things they were able to buy with your money.

Smokescreeens
They will try to put up as many smokescreens as possible to distract from their central motive. Smokescreens such as:

Race conflict,
Class conflict,
War,
Economic disturbance, etc.

Take Their Power Away
We, as a people – must abolish this present money system, by any means necessary. But abolishing it isn’t enough. We need to replace is with a money system that helps our people.

This is possible to do – and has been done in Germany.

In Germany, Hitler based his currency on “Domestic Production”.

German money was NOT based on Gold.

German money was NOT based on Silver.

German money was NOT based on any precious metal commodity that the Jews could purchase and therefore price-manipulate.

German money was NOT based on debt to private Jewish bankers….as United States currency is today.

Arbeit Macht Frei
Hitler based his currency on “Work”. Each dollar placed into circulation had to be “backed” by a dollars worth of domestically produced goods, or services.

The phrase "ARBIET MACHT FREI" means "WORK FREES", or "WORK SHALL SET YOU FREE".

"Arbeit Macht Frei" meant that a money system based on "work" (Domestic Prodution) shall set you free from the Jews.

Now, you know why the Jews attempted to transform "Arbeit Macht Frei" into some sort of slur aimed at imaginary "Holocaust" victims.

That is how Hitler resurrected the Germany economy.

“International Capital” a.k.a “The Jewish Money Conspiracy” knew that Hitler’s MONEY POLICY was a direct assault on their ability to enslave nations.

And that is the “WHY” behind WW2.

We Need Change
Perhaps there are things about National Socialism that some find distasteful. Many “opinions” about National Socialism are not based on factual analysis – but on Steven Spielberg movies and Jewish textbooks. I’m not saying that National Socialism is the answer – but I am saying that we should study it – because it worked.

I think we could use some of the principles of National Socialism within the framework of our Constitutional Republic. But the core issue here is the role that money plays in society.

Most of us take “money” as a given…without really thinking about the system behind it. The system we have today is totally corrupt and is working against us for the enrichment and empowerment of our Jewish enemies.

Let’s go kick some Jew ass.

We don't buy

The9/11Lie


BUT,

Our Money System is the Problem

LET'S FIX IT

can't rep you but this is a pretty solid post, thanks.

[John Liberty]

Jesse Ventura is taking the 911 fight mainstream with a new show on the Pentagon. This may light some fires under the "Fed-911-cover-up" squad's ass. Hopefully, it will jump start an open debate on the issue, leading to a new official inquiry. He is wondering whether it was a missile or a plane that hit the place? I never made a decision on this myself, because I figured building 7 was the chink in the Fed's armour that did not pass the kosher smell test . But Ventura publicizing this to a larger audience is a great help in getting the word out.

I would think that if it were a plane that hit the Pentagon, there would be plenty of videos available to show this. Detractors say that they may not have released these videos because of secondary explosions planted at the Pentagon, but all they have to do is turn down the sound, or not show the actual aftermath of the impact. Also there is a bit about voice morphing, it seems that the technology is available to voice morph just about anything. Ed Steele would probably be interested in this , as the Feds are probably still working on his conviction tapes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZ14NRbT-s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZ14NRbT-s