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Here's the interesting thing, from the court PDF:
"[Bill White's internet] post further stated that the "gay Jewish [Juror A], who has a gay black lover and ties to professional anti-racist groups, and who also personally knew [an individual] killed by Ben Smith, a follower of Hale, was allowed to sit on his jury without challenge and played a leading role in inciting both the conviction and harsh sentence that followed.” The entry featured a color photograph of Juror A. If this is true, it is completely damning of the Hale conviction and the integrity of the federal courts in general. And I think this is why they want to keep White bottled up. He said some things that were not very well calculated, although legal, but through his research, he apparently turned up a major bit of blatantly illegal jury selection. We see the system trying to overturn the convictions of the niggers who torture-murdered Channon Christian and Chris Newsom because the judge was on drugs, but here's a case where someone with all kinds of personal bias against Matt Hale and a personal connection to his church is allowed not only to sit on the jury but to be the foreman! If this is true, Hale's conviction, which was bogus to begin with, should be overturned. |
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7th Circuit Reinstates Conviction of White Supremacist William White
By Courthouse News, Tue, October 30, 2012 CHICAGO (CN) - The 7th Circuit reinstated the conviction of a white supremacist who solicited a crime of violence against a juror by posting online comments that identified him. William White is the creator and operator of Overthrow.com, a website affiliated with the American National Socialist Workers Party, a white supremacist group. The site regularly featured posts about fellow white supremacist Matthew Hale, who is serving 40 years in prison for trying to solicit the murder of U.S. District Judge Joan Humphrey Lefkow. In 2005, White wrote that "everyone associated with the Matt Hale trial has deserved assassination for a long time." This post included the names of federal agents, prosecutors and others involved in Hale's arrest. Three years later, White posted the name, address, phone number and a photo of Mark Hoffman, the jury foreperson in Hale's trial. The government submitted two of the posts about Hoffman into evidence. One has the subheading "Gay Jewish Anti-Racist Led Jury," and another is titled "The Juror Who Convicted Matt Hale." Hoffman, a former assistant dean at the Northwestern School of Education and Social Policy, reported receiving crude text messages and one harassing phone call, but there were no death threats or attempts on his life. The government indicted White, claiming that he had violated federal law by attempting to incite violence against Hoffman. But U.S. District Judge Lynn Adelman concluded otherwise and dismissed the indictment. On appeal, the 7th Circuit reinstated White's indictment, finding that there was a valid dispute over the intent of the online remarks. If White intended for others to harm Hoffman, and such harm was likely, the First Amendment would not protect White. "Although First Amendment speech protections are far-reaching, there are limits ... asking another to commit a crime [is a] punishable act," the appellate panel wrote in June 2010. Though a jury convicted White, Adelman granted him a judgment of acquittal in April 2011. "The words defendant used in his three posts about Mark Hoffman did not expressly solicit anyone to harm Hoffman," Adelman wrote. "Indeed, they did not suggest or imply that anyone do anything to Hoffman. ... Having now heard all the evidence, I am convinced that no reasonable fact-finder considering the posts and the context in which they were made could conclude, based on an objective standard, that they constitute a solicitation." A three-judge appellate panel reinstated the conviction Friday, saying that the incitement determination hinges on the context and audience of White's post. "Readers of Overthrow.com were not casual Web browsers, but extremists molded into a community by the internet - loyal and avid readers who, whether or not they remember every specific solicitation to assassination, knew that Overthrow.com identified hateful enemies who should be assassinated," the unsigned decision states. The court also highlighted White's history of using his website and the radio to release the names and addresses of "enemies" of his cause. In multiple cases, White explicitly contemplated the murder of the named individuals. Two days before information about Hoffman appeared, White's website included an article titled "Kill this Nigger?" that contained images of and articles about President Barack Obama, who was a candidate at the time. Against this backdrop, "White didn't have to say harm [Hoffman]," the appeals court found. "All he had to do and did do to invite violence was to sketch the characteristics that made [Hoffman] a mortal enemy of White's neo-Nazi movement and to publish [Hoffman's] personal contact information." Though White tried to discourage Hoffman's assassination as charges against him loomed, a jury could still have convicted White based on the original solicitation, the ruling states. The appellate judges also affirmed the use of an anonymous jury in White's trial, finding no evidence that the decision had prejudiced White. "White rightfully emphasizes that the First Amendment protects even speech that is loathsome. But criminal solicitations are simply not protected by the First Amendment," the decision states. White should not get a new trial and proceed to sentencing, the court concluded. http://www.opposingviews.com/i/socie...rap-incitement |
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Court reinstates white supremacist's conviction
October 26, 2012 An appellate court ruled Friday that a white supremacist solicited violence against a juror by revealing personal details online, rejecting a lower court's finding that the neo-Nazi's posts were protected by the First Amendment. The 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the posts by William White — who also threatened then-presidential candidate Barack Obama during the 2008 election — weren't subject to the shield the U.S. Constitution extends to most speech. “White rightfully emphasizes that the First Amendment protects even speech that is loathsome,” the three-judge panel in Chicago said in its unanimous, 30-page ruling. “But criminal solicitations are simply not protected by the First Amendment.” The judges also said White shouldn't get a new trial and should proceed to sentencing. A sentencing date will be set later. In early 2011, the Roanoke, Va., man was convicted of one count of solicitation for publishing a juror's name, photograph, home address, phone numbers and sexual orientation on his website in 2008. The juror he singled out had been the foreman of a jury that convicted another white supremacist, Matthew Hale, of soliciting the murder of a federal judge. Later that year, U.S. District Judge Lynn Adelman reversed the conviction, writing that “the government failed to present sufficient evidence” that the posts somehow solicited harm to the White's target. “I further find the posts protected by the First Amendment.” The appeals court on Friday reinstated the original conviction. White, the self-styled leader of the American National Socialist Workers Party, is currently behind bars stemming from a separate conviction of making threats and intimidation. In that case, he was accused of writing a letter addressed to the young children of an apartment resident who was suing her landlord for discrimination. White's website, www.overthrow.com , regularly attacked nonwhites, Jews and homosexuals and expressed approval for acts of violence. The website drew national attention in 2008 when it featured an article about a possible assassination of then-Democratic presidential nominee Obama. White no longer has control of postings to that website. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,2864622.story |
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The SCOTUS has gutted the entrapment defense, incrementally over time, just like the jooz operate.
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"[Bill White's internet] post further stated that the "gay Jewish [Juror A], who has a gay black lover and ties to professional anti-racist groups, and who also personally knew [an individual] killed by Ben Smith, a follower of Hale, was allowed to sit on his jury without challenge and played a leading role in inciting both the conviction and harsh sentence that followed.” The entry featured a color photograph of Juror A. Quote:
But I've been through a couple jury selections, on jury duty. And at Voir Dire they've asked us 40 potential jurors whether, for example, we were related to lawyers (around DC this was, and pretty much every hand went up), or whether we were related to cops. Very general stuff, in other words. I believe they also ask a catch-all about whether you feel you can judge this case impartially. The point is, if you have some ax to grind, you're not supposed to be selected for a juror because you can't judge impartially. If White is right about this juror and his background, then the point would be, how does he get on a jury - and not only get on the jury but become the foreman, the one who guides the others through the process?! If this guy not only has the connection to someone that former Creator Smith killed, that right there prejudices him against Hale. If he's associated with or a member of anti-white groups, that too ought to prejudice him out of being selected. If he didn't reveal these facts, and concealed his hatred of Hale and members of the church and of the white race in order to get on a jury and put one of them away for decades, then he is ipso facto guilty of something. If you have a bias, you are supposed to admit it up front, or else the trial runs the risk of having the verdict overturned when the truth that you are not impartial eventually comes out. Hale was entrapped and railroaded, and it appears this juror was a key piece of the railroading. Again, that's assuming Bill White's assertions are accurate. You can say White is often wrong in his accusations, but my counter is that it's not like the controlled junk media are going to cover this jaw-dropping dereliction and blatantly illegal jury selection. Last edited by Alex Linder; October 31st, 2012 at 03:55 PM. |
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Or that you have posted some highly suspect stuff.
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OK. I think I get it now. I had mistakenly believed that "Juror A" was a juror in Bill White's trial. He was not. He was a juror in Matt Hale's trial.
White wrote about the Hale trial, exposing information about "Juror A", for which he, too, was criminally prosecuted. |
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As I've said before "Fred", and it is easily documented, you're completely full of shit. Just read my signature.
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From the letter(s) I posted yesterday, it sounds like Hale is in touch with White. So that whatever White knows will be available to Hale's lawyer.
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Hale had a letter on the Free Matt Hale website saying that he wasn't entrapped, because no crime was committed. He also said he was solicited by the informant, and they weren't even talking about Lefkow, they were talking about somebody else. |
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A total non-factah. Just racists grasping at straws, itz. It all comes down to whether of not White was accurate. Someone needs to find out.
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All one has to do to see which one of us is full of shit is read my signature, old man.
Oh, and the text you quoted from Nate Richards? Only this part was a response to me: Quote:
Pathetic. Go build more Claymores, crank.
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