Vanguard News Network
VNN Media
VNN Digital Library
VNN Reader Mail
VNN Broadcasts
Local Blogs
Miscellaneous


Go Back   Vanguard News Network Forum > News & Discussion > General Discussion
Register Multimedia Blogs Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old September 14th, 2009   #1
Alex Linder
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 15,342
Default Christian Identity: As Stupid as Whites Get

If there is anything stupider than Christian Identity, I've never come across it. The wacky Yakubism of the Nation of Islam is as stupid, but redeems itself by its In Living Color wackiness. CI is just just flat retard-level stupid.

Christian Identity was concocted in the 1800s. It is literally based on finding similar-appearing words in foreign languages and from them constructing imaginary history, which is then served up to droolards as the real thing.

The following is from Religion and the Racist Right:

John Wilson, the First British Israelite

The British-Israel movement, as opposed to the British-Israel idea, begins more than a generation after Brothers with the writings of John Wilson (?-1871). The self-educated son of a radical Irish weaver, Wilson lectured tirelessly in Ireland and England, advancing his claim to have discovered the hidden origins of the nations of northern Europe. His central work, Lectures on Our Israelitish Origin, appeared in 1840 and ran through five editions, the last published posthumously in 1876. This work, together with Wilson's lectures and the periodicals he edited, brought the British-Israel message to a large middle-class audience. The Lectures depended less on the interpretation of biblical prophecy than on Wilson's attempt to demonstrate empirically that the lost tribes had in fact migrated from the Near East to Europe. Like many writers after him, one of his favorite techniques was to look for words in different languages that sounded the same, assuming, usually erroneously, that if the sounds were similar, then the languages and their speakers had to be connected. Since similar sounds often crop up in otherwise unrelated languages, they allowed Wilson to claim, and to believe, that he had proved that "many of our most common [English] words and names of familiar objects are almost pure Hebrew." [emphasis mine] He was equally confident that similarities in social institutions were the result of an Israelite legacy directly imported by migrating tribes themselves, whom he deemed responsible for everything good and British, from limited monarchy to trial by jury. Every strand of evidence seemed to lead Wilson to his conclusion that the search "for the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel" must necessarily end "in the NORTH-WEST - in our own part of the world."

[pp. 6-7, Religion and the Radical Right, by Michael Barkun (1997, Univ. of North Carolina Press)]

Last edited by Alex Linder; September 14th, 2009 at 10:49 PM.
Alex Linder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2009   #2
Alex Linder
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 15,342
Default

One of the few conservative principles I've always thought false is the idea that we owe the religious any respect whatsoever for their beliefs. They show, far too many of them, the same disrespect for logic and evidence we show for their fantasy. I'm happy with that bargain.
Alex Linder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2009   #3
Gabry Ponte
Senior Member
 
Gabry Ponte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,907
Default

CI is just the stuff that allows the jews to make fun of this movement. It is so far out there that people who actually fall for that system should be put into a mental hospital. it's worse then the Mormons and their secret underwear.
Gabry Ponte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2009   #4
George De Vaus
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 593
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Linder View Post
If there is anything stupider than Christian Identity, I've never come across it. The wacky Yakubism of the Nation of Islam is as stupid, but redeems itself by its In Living Color wackiness. CI is just just flat retard-level stupid.

Christian Identity was concocted in the 1800s. It is literally based on finding similar-appearing words in foreign languages and from them constructing imaginary history, which is then served up to droolards as the real thing.

The following is from Religion and the Racist Right:

John Wilson, the First British Israelite

The British-Israel movement, as opposed to the British-Israel idea, begins more than a generation after Brothers with the writings of John Wilson (?-1871). The self-educated son of a radical Irish weaver, Wilson lectured tirelessly in Ireland and England, advancing his claim to have discovered the hidden origins of the nations of northern Europe. His central work, Lectures on Our Israelitish Origin, appeared in 1840 and ran through five editions, the last published posthumously in 1876. This work, together with Wilson's lectures and the periodicals he edited, brought the British-Israel message to a large middle-class audience. The Lectures depended less on the interpretation of biblical prophecy than on Wilson's attempt to demonstrate empirically that the lost tribes had in fact migrated from the Near East to Europe. Like many writers after him, one of his favorite techniques was to look for words in different languages that sounded the same, assuming, usually erroneously, that if the sounds were similar, then the languages and their speakers had to be connected. Since similar sounds often crop up in otherwise unrelated languages, they allowed Wilson to claim, and to believe, that he had proved that "many of our most common [English] words and names of familiar objects are almost pure Hebrew." He was equally confident that similarities in social institutions were the result of an Israelite legacy directly imported by migrating tribes themselves, whom he deemed responsible for everything good and British, from limited monarchy to trial by jury. Every strand of evidence seemed to lead Wilson to his conclusion that the search "for the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel" must necessarily end "in the NORTH-WEST - in our own part of the world."

[pp. 6-7, Religion and the Radical Right, by Michael Barkun (1997, Univ. of North Carolina Press)]
Mormons also believe that they themselves are "Israelites", usually of the tribe of "Ephraim". They believe that any "Gentile" who is baptized into the Mormon church is "adopted into the House of Israel". Thus, White Mormon children grow up utterly ignorant of their true Indo-European heritage and identity, believing that they belong to "the House of Israel".
__________________
"Speak what you think now in hard words and tomorrow speak what tomorrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said today."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
George De Vaus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2009   #5
Gabry Ponte
Senior Member
 
Gabry Ponte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,907
Default

That's why I hate religion. It has no science to back it up. Just stories made from men. And people devote their lives to lies. Lemmings on a mission to feel secure about life. Weaklings.
Gabry Ponte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2009   #6
Rikert
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 135
Default

Do you put the Positive Chrisitanity movement lead by Alfred Rosenburg into your characterization of "retards"?
Rikert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2009   #7
Robert Bandanza
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: JUDEAware, originally MassaJEWsetts
Posts: 8,902
Default

All religions are myths and they cannot intertwine with politics anyway. Totally irrelevant. The party and or ideology Christian Democrat, to me, is an oxymoron.
Robert Bandanza is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2009   #8
Oy Ze Hate
We're the Good Guys
 
Oy Ze Hate's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Pediatric Burn Unit
Posts: 4,489
Default

Everything about Christinsanity has been a disaster for the white race. From day one.

There's a good book by Gore Vidal called Julian. And no, I'm not mentioning it because there's a "Ju" in the title. I don't believe that the name of our solar system's largest gas giant is significant for being named Jupiter, either. Or do I? Heh.

Julian_the_Apostate Julian_the_Apostate

Julian was a Roman Emperor who made it his life's work to crush the growing cult of the Christinsanity. You can read about him at the link. There's something about white people that I can't put my finger on, but there's this innate gullibility. The nature of white people is pure fodder for a predatory race like the jews.

I don't hate Christians for believing in their version of God or for their wanting to have faith in a higher power. I hate them because the Bible doesn't make any sense. And yet they read that jewish "rhapsody of words" and pretend it's full of wisdom and beauty. It isn't. The Bible is full of a bunch of garbage. Dr. Oliver called it the Jew Book. If that was good enough for him, it's good enough for me.

Yeah, CI is nonsense. But there's nothing quite as tenacious as a white man or woman who will go to extreme measures to protect the mental constructs which they formulated before they were out of high school.

"Childhood is the dream we never wake from." -- anon (or perhaps not)

"Faith is believing what you know isn't so." -- google it if you want (I like quotes)

Eternal life is the greatest oxymoron ever put forth.

Last edited by Oy Ze Hate; September 14th, 2009 at 11:26 PM.
Oy Ze Hate is online now   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2009   #9
Alex Linder
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 15,342
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by George De Vaus View Post
Mormons also believe that they themselves are "Israelites", usually of the tribe of "Ephraim". They believe that any "Gentile" who is baptized into the Mormon church is "adopted into the House of Israel". Thus, White Mormon children grow up utterly ignorant of their true Indo-European heritage and identity, believing that they belong to "the House of Israel".
It's not just them -- and this is what I learned from Catholic historian E. Michael Jones -- essentially all Protestantism is a version of CI. All Protestants divisions are basically jew-wannabes.

Really, just as there's a term for whites who want to be wiggers, there should be terms for white christian idiots who want to be jews - or who even claim, per CI, that they literally ARE jews. I propose:

Poos (Protestant jew wannabes)

or

woozies (whites who want to be jews)
Alex Linder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2009   #10
Steve B
Bann-ed
 
Steve B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Cali
Posts: 5,622
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Linder View Post
One of the few conservative principles I've always thought false is the idea that we owe the religious any respect whatsoever for their beliefs. They show, far too many of them, the same disrespect for logic and evidence we show for their fantasy. I'm happy with that bargain.
A lot of xtians, not necessarily CI, think they have the inside dope. There way is the only way and everything else is false doctrine. They are on the inside track with god. They have heard the word and if you haven't or if you deviate one fraction from the word...whoa is you. You are in for a severe chastising along with the always ensuing mockery of your beliefs. "Haw haw, why you must be mad sir! The Earth does not revolve around the Sun! 'Tis a myth, arrest that man!"

I could never understand how people who believe that a guy came back from the dead and walks on water(which is a mighty big stretch of the imagination for me) can ridicule and condemn someones elses beliefs that don't even begin to match the xtians for imagination and wondrous fancies.
Steve B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2009   #11
Alex Linder
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 15,342
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rikert View Post
Do you put the Positive Chrisitanity movement lead by Alfred Rosenburg into your characterization of "retards"?
No, I'd class it as merely silly, as Hitler did.
Alex Linder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2009   #12
Robert Bandanza
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: JUDEAware, originally MassaJEWsetts
Posts: 8,902
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rikert View Post
Do you put the Positive Chrisitanity movement lead by Alfred Rosenburg into your characterization of "retards"?
There were some great Christian politicians, etc. in the past, but they did not let the "lord" get in the way of what they did best and help run great nations.

If religion is someday gone in the Western world, there will be absolute happiness providing that the better politician(s) have control.
Robert Bandanza is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2009   #13
Alex Linder
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 15,342
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve B View Post
A lot of xtians, not necessarily CI, think they have the inside dope. There way is the only way and everything else is false doctrine. They are on the inside track with god. They have heard the word and if you haven't or if you deviate one fraction from the word...whoa is you. You are in for a severe chastising along with the always ensuing mockery of your beliefs. "Haw haw, why you must be mad sir! The Earth does not revolve around the Sun! 'Tis a myth, arrest that man!"
I know that, but if you know the Christian you see that it's a function of his own lack of brains and imagination. Look at the Baptists - the very nadir of the religion. Baptists believe because they want the good stuff they didn't get on earth because they lacked the brains and initiative to work for it. To get into their heaven, all you have to do is accept Jesus as your personal savior. That's a demand so low that even two out of three Baptists can meet it. Low-end Chistianity, which is most of it, is primarily driven by hatred of one's intellectual, financial and social betters.
Alex Linder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2009   #14
COTW
Overseer
 
COTW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Land of Cotton
Posts: 2,611
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve B View Post
A lot of xtians, not necessarily CI, think they have the inside dope. There way is the only way and everything else is false doctrine. They are on the inside track with god. They have heard the word and if you haven't or if you deviate one fraction from the word...whoa is you. You are in for a severe chastising along with the always ensuing mockery of your beliefs. "Haw haw, why you must be mad sir! The Earth does not revolve around the Sun! 'Tis a myth, arrest that man!"

I could never understand how people who believe that a guy came back from the dead and walks on water(which is a mighty big stretch of the imagination for me) can ridicule and condemn someones elses beliefs that don't even begin to match the xtians for imagination and wondrous fancies.
Same here but I take it a step further. For me it's a stretch that they believe that an immortal, omnipotent being from another realm created an entire universe with only vocal commands in seven days.
__________________
"To speak his thoughts is every freeman's right, in peace and war, in council and in fight."
Homer-The Iliad

"The very aim and end of our institutions is just this: that we may think what we like and say what we think."

-Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

COTW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2009   #15
Alex Linder
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 15,342
Default

Let's not kid ourselves, though, a large part of the problem is the genetic gullibility of our people. The Christians triumphed in Germany when their priest cut down Wotan's sacred lemon tree while the German savages gulped for fear. When nothing happened, they converted. We've come not a long way, by non-technical measures, in 2000 years.
Alex Linder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2009   #16
SA Mann
National Socialist
 
SA Mann's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,485
Default

Wonder how many of the CI crowd think pro-wrestling is real and fly a ZOG banner? Having been a Southern Baptist, I know most of them are big backers
of Israel and have taken some really stupid views on race-mixing.

When you look at the whole Christinsanity thing, it is lies built on myths. They stole a lot of stuff from the Greeks and Egyptians. Add to that where the "New Testement" was written hundreds of years after the events happened. It would be like if I decided to pen a first hand account of Jamestown (1607) or the fall of the Alamo. Would anyone be so stupid and guilible to believe my first hand accounts of these events? VNNers are much smarter than your average Bible thumper.
SA Mann is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 14th, 2009   #17
Gabry Ponte
Senior Member
 
Gabry Ponte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,907
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rikert View Post
Do you put the Positive Chrisitanity movement lead by Alfred Rosenburg into your characterization of "retards"?
Hell yes.
Christ = Jesus.
Jesus = Jew.
Enough said!
Gabry Ponte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 15th, 2009   #18
Rick Ronsavelle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 986
Default

Rick Ronsavelle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 15th, 2009   #19
Alex Linder
Administrator
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 15,342
Default

Rosenberg was trying to turn Jesus into a blue-eyed he-man. Trying to turn Christianity from a Semitic into a Nordic religion. I'd rather catch fireflies or play wiffle ball myself.
Alex Linder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 15th, 2009   #20
Hunter Wallace
Member
 
Hunter Wallace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 251
Default

The strangest sect of CI is the 'dual seedline' version. Remember Martin Lindstedt?
__________________
Occidental Dissent

"A functioning police state needs no police."
—William Borroughs
Hunter Wallace is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
bruder schweigen judas, christ-insanity, christianity, christianity is jewish, death to xtheism, hail satan, infighting bs, inverted crucifix, jew wannabes, jews hate christ, judeo-mythianity

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:00 AM.
Page generated in 0.23400 seconds with 12 queries.