Glenn Beck's white nationalist fans (Salon on Stormfront)

[jimmy smith]

Glenn Beck's white nationalist fans
Friday, Nov 20, 2009 11:01 PST

After an ADL report says Beck may foment violence, I visit racist Web sites to see if their denizens are listening.


It's been a busy week for Glenn Beck watchers. On Monday, the Anti-Defamation League released a report warning of the paranoia and stridency that increasingly define the conservative grass roots. It echoed an April report issued by the Department of Homeland Security, but unlike the DHS report, the ADL named names, and fingered Beck as the figure most responsible for the unhinging of the right.

"Beck has acted as a 'fearmonger-in-chief,' raising anxiety about and distrust towards the government [which] if it continues to grow in intensity and scope, may result in an increase in anti-government extremists and the potential for a rise of violent anti-government acts," the ADL wrote.

Amazingly, just after the ADL report's release, Sarah Palin responded to a question about a possible Palin-Beck ticket by refusing to rule out Beck as a running mate. She praised him effusively, describing him as "bold, clever, and very, very, very effective."

Effective at what, exactly?

Earlier this week, Sam Stein of the Huffington Post detailed several instances in which Beck has welcomed onto his shows guests with ties to groups that traffic in white supremacy, neo-Confederate secession, and anti-Semitism. Stein's reporting was a good start, but it would take a chalkboard the size of Idaho to fully map out Beck's racially paranoid guest list.

But Beck insists his critics are imagining things, that he does not engage in racial fear-mongering, that a string of guests with ties to hate groups do not form a meaningful pattern, and that he's not a racist. It occurred to me the other day that if you really want to know whether Beck and his guests are blowing racial dog-whistles, it's best to ask a dog.

I decided to reach out to Don Black, the avowed white nationalist who runs the Web site Stormfront.org, the country's leading "Discussion board for pro-White activists and anyone else interested in White survival." But Black hung up on me. I next tried to get in touch with David Duke, the former gubernatorial candidate and current head of the European American Unity and Rights Organization. Duke, too, had little interest in talking to me, likely because of my past association with the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks the activities of white supremacist groups.

Unable to get through to the highest-profile spokesmen of the racist grass roots, I took a page from the other side and trawled their Web sites for insight. I scanned Davidduke.com and Stormfront.org to see what they had to say, if anything, about Beck. Admittedly, this method is not scientific, and certainly folks on the left don't like it when righties cherry-pick an extreme comment from Daily Kos or the Huffington Post and pretend the whole site can be summed up by such extremism.

On the other hand, Stormfront.org isn't a media organization but a self-described discussion board. And when it comes to Beck, the discussions are fairly positive. On both David Duke's Web site and Stormfront, Beck's July 28 claim that President Obama harbors a "deep-seated hatred of white people, or the white culture" was met with attention and appreciation.

Duke was heartened by the discussion it generated, and placed it in a larger context. "A lot of stuff is happening in the world of race relations and little of it points towards a post-racial society," Duke noted. "Beck is steadily losing advertisers, but his viewers seem to be sticking with him ... White desperation is manifesting itself in various forms."

Beck's charge that the president hates white people sparked a more expansive discussion at Stormfront.org. Some participants saw Beck as an important ally in the White Nationalist cause. Others were skeptical, viewing him as a clueless conservative version of Lenin's "useful idiot." But some of Stormfront's most active members generally agreed that, whether he was fully conscious or not, Beck was nudging his audience toward an embrace of racial consciousness.

"Glen [sic] Beck can be useful," said one frequent Stormfront contributor who posts under the name SS_marching. "When Glen beck said 'Obama Has A Deep-Seated Hatred For White People' he is able to reach a much wider audience than we can. They will [be] predisposed to the idea and the next time Obama pushes an anti-white policy they will see it as such."

Stormfront member PowerCommander agreed. Beck, he wrote:

"seems to have ignited a flame under the asses of some folks with similar ideas by pushing the right buttons. It appears as if the current regime [is] directly blaming GB and fox news for throwing a wrench in their machine. Is Beck's rambling getting America fired up and ready to fight? Has Beck told enough of the truth to start something bigger? Even an engine needs a starter to get fired off and go down the road."

Thor357, a Stormfront sustaining member who has posted on the site more than 3,500 times, had this to say:

"Glenn Beck and Alex Jones [a controversial conservative media figure who believes 9/11 was an inside job] are the front line in the war of Ideals we grapple with, they are far from perfect and are somewhat compromised. But every person in the last 2 years that I have introduced to the WN [White Nationalist] Philosophy have come largely from Alex Jones, Glen Beck and the Scriptures for America founder Pastor Pete Peters ... Baby steps are required for people like these, but the trio Beck, Jones, Peters are the baby food that feeds potential Nationalists… Glenn Beck is not far behind as his Mormon background indicates to me as most Mormons I have met are not friends of Jews like the Church was years ago. Most Mormons I know are arming themselves, with guns, bullets and food."

Later in the same discussion thread, Thor357 added:

"I have talked to 6 people in two days because Glenn Beck woke them up, it's amazing how angry they are. They are pissing fire over Obama, this is a good thing. Now I educate them. If out of 100 of the Glen Beckers I keep 20 then I have won 20 more to cover my back side. I never lost the 80 as they never were."

Carolina Patriot, whose member picture features a kitten aiming an assassin's rifle, was conflicted but admiring:

"Every now and again when an infomercial takes the place of hunting or fishing, I'll turn over to Glenn Beck if he's on and watch his show. Sometimes it is amusing, sometimes it is informed, and sometimes, I think he comes to SF [Stormfront] to steal show idea's"

UstashaNY offered up an analogy to substance abuse, with Beck as the soft-stuff hook:

"Beck, Dobbs etc. are like gateway drugs. If it wakes up one person to learn something about whats really going on and that person does the research, looks deeper and deeper into WHO and WHAT is behind all of this, then its a win for the movement. NOBODY in the msm is reporting the stuff Beck does, let him keep talking. It will wake people up, believe me… He is more of a help to us then you may think. Until we have a REAL voice in the msm, guys like him and Dobbs are a stepping stone right into our laps. Its only a matter of time..."

Even those who don't think Beck understands what he’s doing appreciate his instincts. According to WhiteManMarchesOn88:

"There is no doubt that Beck is not a WN [white nationalist], but I have to agree that he does raise a lot of really good questions that do promote White survival. I'm sure he would go a lot farther with a lot of his questions, but ZOG [Zionist Occupied Government] would more than likely kick him off television if he did."

ZOG or no ZOG, Beck is clearly doing something right from the point of view of the average white nationalist.

"By no means do I think [Beck] is aware of the racial issue, and for the moment that is ok," wrote Stormfront member QHelios. "He is stirring the pot, and I thank him for that."

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...nd_stormfront/

[Johnny James]

It's fairly clear to me now that white nationalism is making more headlines in the MSM through even just vague associations with Glen Beck, that the future will not be a divide between Right and Left, Republican and Conservative, but between White and Other. I get this sense from the rather inane and predictable name-calling comments of the Salon readers, all following the general forumale of suggesting that all WNs are uneducated, overweight failures, rather than highly educated, young and fit, as myself and many burgeoning WNs.

The race traitors will certainly do all they can to join the Others, but at the end of the day, you are what you look like, especially on the battlefield.

[Georgie]

That's fine and dandy but these "White Nationalists" that worship Glenn Beck and Alex Jones are going to have to decide whether or not they are going to admit to being racist when they are called out on it. If they do the nudge nudge wink wink thing and then in public say "oooh I'm not racist, I just love the Constitution" or some bullshit, then these Nationalists are a joke.

(Unless they're trying to infiltrate an organization that is, in that case they shouldn't have anything to do with any WN organizations/forums/etc. for safety)

[Eric Wright]

Easiest way to find out what the lemmings who follow Beck think is by going to an 9/12 gathering and speak bluntly with them about the state of things and what and who is to blame. My experience has found that they are worse off than the left.

YouTube- Glenn Beck When Things Go Bad, The Jews Become Scapegoats

YouTube- Glenn Beck When Things Go Bad, The Jews Become Scapegoats

In the above video he warns his flock against the "nut jobs" and "white supremacist" who will "scapegoat" the Jews. A little preemptive strike against the known growing voice of 'putting the cockroaches under the light'

[Rounder]

Jew-paid, neocon whores like Glenn Beck, don't give a shit about white people. They are merely saying what their jew bosses tell them to say. Which amounts to throwing Whitey a few racialist bones from time to time in order to gain Whitey's trust, while they carry out their jew bosses' main objective. That main objective is inciting Whitey to hate muslims and to fight and finance more and more jew wars against muslim nations.

It's as simple as that.

[Serbian]

Another system pressure valve, directing white rage towards the enemies of jews and I$rael. The jews need these fuckers, especially in the current anti Obongo/government climate.

We can't have people figuring out the truth and becoming anti-semites now can we

[Rounder]

Originally Posted by Serbian

Another system pressure valve, directing white rage towards the enemies of jews and I$rael. The jews need these fuckers, especially in the current anti Obongo/government climate.

We can't have people figuring out the truth and becoming anti-semites now can we

Well said, Serbian.

White christians and southern rednecks in general, love neocons like Glenn Beck. They think he's a great American patriot who really, really cares about freedom and liberty, and who stands up for white folks. White christians see no contradion at all when Beck incites racial hatred against muslims and for more wars against Islam. After all, smiting millions of Israel's enemies, is "god's" will and in his holy bible. They want to butcher millions of muslims, just like their stupid granddaddies butchered millions of Germans. All while passing around the collection plates, singing "Onward Christian Soldiers", praising de lard, and looking forward to de lard's heavenly rewards for defending those dark, bow-legged, hook-nosed, mix-breeded, parasitic dwarfs, they are convinced their lard chose and placed above Aryans like themselves.

"Oi vey" !!! Vat a cuuuun-tree !!! Vat righteous goyim !!!"

[Tom McReen]

This Salon piece is another routine, irrelevent Democrat v Republican hit-piece trying to use 'racists' to show that Glenn Beck is 'extreme' - overlooking the fact that Beck is a Zionist and hates 'anti-semites'. The only other purpose of this piece is to smear and demonise Whites (as usual).

The Salon article is made completely worthless by the fact it considers the ADL (anti-White jew supremacists) and Huffington Post (extreme left and anti-White) to be credible authorities.

Glenn Beck's white nationalist fans

Glenn Beck has no White Nationalist fans (notice that the jew supremacist media is now using OUR term 'White Nationalist' but only to associate it with 'racists'.

After an ADL report says Beck may foment violence, I visit racist Web sites to see if their denizens are listening.

The ADL is a racist hate group. The Salon hack calls White websites 'racist'. Decides to spy on White people then smear them in jewish-controlled media.

On Monday, the Anti-Defamation League released a report warning of the paranoia and stridency that increasingly define the conservative grass roots.

Classic jewish projection. The ADL is paranoid and strident, especially as they are now attacking Glenn bloody Beck as a 'White Nationalist'!

"Beck has acted as a 'fearmonger-in-chief,' raising anxiety about and distrust towards the government [which] if it continues to grow in intensity and scope, may result in an increase in anti-government extremists and the potential for a rise of violent anti-government acts," the ADL wrote.

All criticism comes from 'fear'.

The ADL is extreme and anti-government because jews spying, ignoring the Constitution and stealing police records are anti-government.

It echoed an April report issued by the Department of Homeland Security, but unlike the DHS report, the ADL named names, and fingered Beck as the figure most responsible for the unhinging of the right.

ADL reports 'echo' DHS reports? So the agenda of the Federal Government is jewish.

fingered Beck

What? Who cares? Is the ADL now the offical courtroom judge of the USA?

unhinging of the right.

Calling people 'unhinged' = communist =

The economy is collapsing, the tyranny of government is building and bypassing the Constitution, the USA is expending itself and White American lives on ZIONIST wars for Israel, the extreme left-wing Democrats are passing anti-White 'hate laws promoted by the JEWISH ADL but opposition to any of that is 'unhinged'. Nice one kike, how about you fuck off with your unhinged demands that we all submit meekly to anti-White jewish supremacy? Take a remedial journalism course while you're in fuck-off land too.

Earlier this week, Sam Stein of the Huffington Post detailed several instances in which Beck has welcomed onto his shows guests with ties to groups that traffic in white supremacy, neo-Confederate secession, and anti-Semitism.

'Ties' how craftily jewish and leftist.

The Huffington Post surpasses having 'ties' to racists, the Huffington Post IS racist, anti-White media which has been covered by this very forum on more than one occasion. So it's another case of 'epic fail' for jew supremacist, racist, anti-White, far-left Salon.

That's as far as I can get through this embarrasing, hate-filled, juvenile, very jewish sub-journalism excrement.

[Rounder]

Check out Beck and O'Reilly when they go head to head. Those two Aryans can barely stomach each other, knowing with absolute certainty, that both are whores, bought and paid by the GD jews. They make each other sick in reality. And to the trained, jew-wise eye, it shows. Notice the dry grins, the dry laughs, and their phoney jokes while they pretend to like each other.

[vladmir]

Stop paying attention to political media prostitutes like Glen Beck,.... pay attention to his older material during the Bush regime, Beck is a boot licking NEOCON nutcase purposefully placing ADL focus on "domestic terrorist" white males...IGNORE HIM!

The focus needs to be placed the ADL and SPLC, and the need dispose of these zionist organizations from our soil ASAP.

[jimmy smith]

Ever since Obongo's win there's been a big influx of patriotard/conservatards at Stormfront, which explains their stupid opinions on Glen Beck.

[H.B.]

After an ADL report says Beck may foment violence, I visit racist Web sites to see if their denizens are listening

That's funny that the ADL says Beck may forment violence. Against whom? 9-11 truthers and Holocaust revisionists? I seem to recall Beck going off on a tangent that 9-11 truthers and revisionists are "anti-American", support terrorism and supposedly all cheered in unison when the Holocaust museum was shot up. Beck also likened those groups to "al Qaeda."

It's also funny how the ADL isn't falling all over itself to condemn the FBI for employing Hal Turner all those years to incite people into lawbreaking, violence or threatening violence. It's dangerous business when you consider the FBI-HT relationship broke up around the time of the Yankee Jim murder-suicide. When you incite a subject into violence, sometimes the target is not the desired political one but one that is closer to the subject. It makes you wonder if the families of the deceased might sue the FBI.

[Marty Macaluso]

I don't see Glenn Beck being a gateway to WN. He is never critical of the number one problem facing white people today, the Jews. If he did start to criticize the kikes he would lose his job rather quickly. I don't think it would just be the heads of the station calling for his head either, I think the average Israel/Jew loving watcher of his show would be up in arms too. You can never underestimate the amount of Jew loving you got in this country, from the nigger loving liberals in the Northeast to the Jeboo loving holy rollers in the South, most all of them love the Jews/Israel. It is much a part of society as eating turkey on the last Thursday in November. The Jews only tolerate whites when they are working in the interest of the kikes. To succeed in politics or the media in this country you have to kiss some kike ass and work in their interest.

[The Barrenness]

Originally Posted by Rounder

Jew-paid, neocon whores like Glenn Beck, don't give a shit about white people. They are merely saying what their jew bosses tell them to say. Which amounts to throwing Whitey a few racialist bones from time to time in order to gain Whitey's trust, while they carry out their jew bosses' main objective. That main objective is inciting Whitey to hate muslims and to fight and finance more and more jew wars against muslim nations.

It's as simple as that.

To throw whitey a few bones a person like Beck has to tap into and play to the anger in the white man. Even if it seems remote, there is a chance that the anger, which is increasingly, may get a little beyond their control. What happens then? This is what the ADL is concerned with and it makes my day to know they may be sweating a bit over it.

[The Barrenness]

Originally Posted by Marty Macaluso

I don't see Glenn Beck being a gateway to WN. He is never critical of the number one problem facing white people today, the Jews. If he did start to criticize the kikes he would lose his job rather quickly. I don't think it would just be the heads of the station calling for his head either, I think the average Israel/Jew loving watcher of his show would be up in arms too. You can never underestimate the amount of Jew loving you got in this country, from the nigger loving liberals in the Northeast to the Jeboo loving holy rollers in the South, most all of them love the Jews/Israel. It is much a part of society as eating turkey on the last Thursday in November. The Jews only tolerate whites when they are working in the interest of the kikes. To succeed in politics or the media in this country you have to kiss some kike ass and work in their interest.

I think people overstate the level of philosemitism in the average person. I think the average white gentile, even many who may support Israel, still view jews as other and this is a suspicious other in their mind. I also think people reject talk about jews not so much because they like them or feel guilt about the holocaust but more because they have been trained to see talk about jews as being the beliefs of crazy conspiracy theorists. This may be even harder to overcome then if the problem were that people were truly fanatically philosemitic. This is why when we talk about jews we need to stick to things we can prove, their role in the civil rights movement, hate crime laws, their domination of the media, or the 1965 immigration act for instance. On the other hand, it is a bit more difficult to "prove" that they seek our genocide and things of that nature that I hear people saying.

[Marty Macaluso]

Originally Posted by Starr

I think people overstate the level of philosemitism in the average person. I think the average white gentile, even many who may support Israel, still view jews as other and this is a suspicious other in their mind. I also think people reject talk about jews not so much because they like them or feel guilt about the holocaust but more because they have been trained to see talk about jews as being the beliefs of crazy conspiracy theorists. This may be even harder to overcome then if the problem were that people were truly fanatically philosemitic. This is why when we talk about jews we need to stick to things we can prove, their role in the civil rights movement, hate crime laws, their domination of the media, or the 1965 immigration act for instance. On the other hand, it is a bit more difficult to "prove" that they seek our genocide and things of that nature that I hear people saying.

I can't agree with that, you cannot get elected to public office in the United States without being pro Jew/Israel. The average person is bombarded with positive portrayals of Israel/Jews daily. It is still taboo to deny the holocaust, almost every person thinks the Jews are the victim in their war with the Arabs, especially those who only get their news from the mainstream media. Most people think Jews are loyal Americans concerned with the safety of the country. Jews can be foaming out the mouth Zionist and still be considered patriotic Americans by the media. A lot of whites still don't know Jews have been behind almost every negative thing that's happened to the country the last 60 years.

Take the Iraq war for example, people always blame Bush or the neocons for the war, you never hear them blame the Jews, who were the brains behind getting the war started.

[The Barrenness]

The media throws out positive images of everyone who is not white or maybe a muslim these days, but lots of people, at the end of the day still do not accept what they are being told. They may say all of the "right" things but how they feel behind closed doors is a different story. Suspicion of jews, for good reason, has been a part of our cultures for a long time and it cannot be completely removed this quickly. And people only view jews as victims in the Israeli/Palestinian mess because they think in terms of Israel being an ally. That requires no special love or admiration for jews.

[McKinley]

Originally Posted by Tom McReen

the extreme left-wing Democrats are passing anti-White 'hate laws promoted by the JEWISH ADL.

The same could be said about the "right" wing faggot, jew dick sucking republicunts.

Damned Tom, you really need to get this this right wing - left wing jew speak crap out of your head. Both of those BS Frauds are a enemy of White people.

[Marty Macaluso]

Originally Posted by Starr

The media throws out positive images of everyone who is not white or maybe a muslim these days, but lots of people, at the end of the day still do not accept what they are being told. They may say all of the "right" things but how they feel behind closed doors is a different story. Suspicion of jews, for good reason, has been a part of our cultures for a long time and it cannot be completely removed this quickly. And people only view jews as victims in the Israeli/Palestinian mess because they think in terms of Israel being an ally. That requires no special love or admiration for jews.

What suspicion of Jews? Look how many Jews have been elected to congress, state reps, governors, mayors, etc. White goys are voting for Jews in record numbers, they can't distrust them too much. Being a Jew isn't even an issue to most people, but if it was say Hindus or muzzies getting vote in, people would be like what the fuck is going on?

[Julian Lüchow]

Originally Posted by McKinley

The same could be said about the "right" wing faggot, jew dick sucking republicunts.

Damned Tom, you really need to get this this right wing - left wing jew speak crap out of your head. Both of those BS Frauds are a enemy of White people.

I've been trying to get that point across to him since I signed up here. Simply criticizing the "right" does not make you an enemy of white people because they aren't now and never have been looking out for our interests. They kicked Revilo Oliver out of the Conservative movement because he was a racialist and their mouthpiece Bill Buckley sold out to jew Neoconservatism. They've been jew stooges and false friends ever since.