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Old December 20th, 2009 #2
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Jim Giles weirded him out. Hunter is an intellectual-type, and Giles went off on him, calling him a pussy, etc.. because he didn't have that genocidal rage, that stark feeling of "our'n vs. their'n".

Giles is looking for a leader to channel the outrage of whites toward exterminating jews, blacks, etc...

When Hunter revealed he is not that person, and in fact believes genocide is dishonorable and evil, Giles blew up (well, he blew up in a subsequent rant).
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Old December 20th, 2009 #3
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He has no problem with accused child molestors, convicts, and anonymous trolls making all kinds of libelous assertions about me but never putting forward any evidence. The kid needs to grow up and decide whether he's in or out. If he's in, he should start writing under his real name, and raise his posting standards to VNN's level.
 
Old December 20th, 2009 #4
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Old December 20th, 2009 #5
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When Hunter revealed he is not that person, and in fact believes genocide is dishonorable and evil, Giles blew up (well, he blew up in a subsequent rant).
You don't know what he actually believes.
 
Old December 20th, 2009 #6
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You don't know what he actually believes.
well, he's flip flopping, but for right now he's somewhat empathetic with jews and non-whites.

Giles is a loose canon. his rage prevents him from thinking clearly; you can hear it in his latest rant - he literally can't control himself and his speech.

he would be good with a battle ax, but that's about it. he's coherent and fine when he's not angry, but then the rage takes over him and possesses him.
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Old December 20th, 2009 #7
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You don't know what he actually believes.
It's safe to say he doesn't believe in exterminating the jews. Hard to believe everyone isn't jumping on that bandwagon, I know.
 
Old December 20th, 2009 #8
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It's safe to say he doesn't believe in exterminating the jews.
That conclusion cannot be drawn from the evidence.
 
Old December 20th, 2009 #9
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That conclusion cannot be drawn from the evidence.
You have a blind spot about this. Very few people are comfortable with killing anyone. If you're talking about killing women and children they get even less comfortable.

The sense of justice that most Whites are born with makes fighting the jews much more difficult. We're going to have to expel them. Only a few jew criminals will be executed.
 
Old December 20th, 2009 #10
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From OD site:

135Mr. Dithers


"Giles and Linder are independent operators and I’m still baffled that HW feels like an enabler to them so much so that he’s considering dropping the Jewish Question altogether. There’s no reason to shy away from the topic based on the words and actions of a couple of individuals.

I’ve had a little more time to digest the events of the last two days and I believe the whole interview was a set up with bad intentions from the start. I never would have expected that and obviously neither did HW. Given Giles’ “aw shucks” and semi-retarded comportment in previous interviews I would have had my guard down like HW.

But what I find most troubling is HW’s reaction. The mention of Jewish genocide struck a raw nerve with him but Susan Sontag with her “The white race is the cancer of human history” was much ado about nothing. Since cancer is usually cut out or burned the implication, at least to these ears, was that whites are villains who must be removed. Keep in mind Susan Sontag wasn’t some obscure person with a website she was a very prominent author who rubbed elbows with America’s cultural elites. Yet, she was never rebuked or upbraided by her fellow “good” Jews or anyone else that I’m aware of.

Funny how her anti-white invective was downplayed but had a WN said that Jews are the cancer of human history then it would have been time for soul searching, teeth knashing and censorship. Guy Blight, Friedrich Flinstone and other philo-semites would have used this as evidence to assert that anyone critical of Jews wants to see them dead and denies the Holocaust. Jews are held to a much lower standard and that is total hypocrisy.

Then we have Jewish professor Noel Ignatiev whose stated objective is to “abolish the white race”. Of course he cleverly skirts around the idea of physical extermination by stating that whiteness is defined by white identity and white privilege but I think it’s safe to assume he’d like to see white people dead. At a minimum he wants to see us completely dispossessed so I guess he’s not as bad as Linder.

Unfortunately none of this seems to be a smoking gun to HW. I don’t know what else it takes to convince someone that some prominent and successful Jews have very bad intentions towards us.

Go ahead and be indignant over calls for genocide but at least be consistent. Don’t get uppity when Linder says something but then be totally dispassionate, objective and stoic when non-whites or Jews slyly insinuate or suggest the outright genocide of whites. There is a glaring double standard at work here."
 
Old December 20th, 2009 #11
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Exactly, there was a comment on one of his blogs which said something similar. Hunter has never showed such emotion when describing the hatred Jews have for us, but is up in arms over Alex Linder's statements about Jews. I think he's more mad about the way Jim Giles treated him. He's kind of being a pussy about the whole thing.
 
Old December 20th, 2009 #12
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I want nothing to do with Jim Giles or Alex Linder ever again. This will be the last post about either of them on this website. I have delinked their websites, banned their IP addresses, and added both to the comment filter. I want nothing to do with those associated with either of these men. They are free to spew their sick, disgusting, evil ideas on their own websites, but they will never again find a platform on mine.

I’m also taking a small break from blogging. I need a few days to sit down and seriously reflect upon everything else I may have been wrong about. I’ve spent way too much time on the internet lately. I’m exhausted and want to enjoy the Christmas season. I won’t touch the Jewish Question again before examining it with a moral eye. How did I become so morally broken that I was willing to engage these degenerates?

In the future, I won’t waste my talent making life easier for Jim Giles or Alex Linder to spread their hateful message … of that much I am certain. I’ve already advised others to do so as well.

Notice: This will be the last thread in which discussions of Alex Linder, Jim Giles, RFM, or VNN will be allowed. In future threads, references to any of the above will airbrushed out or deleted. We’re going to move on to more productive topics. Those who want to engage either Giles or Linder know which rocks they can be found under. I’m also locking this thread at 100 comments.
What? No thumb screws or waterboarding for the heretic Linder? The man has blasphemed! How dare he voice an opinion contrary to acceptable norms. Silence him by any means necessary! Purge his name from the book of the living and look upon him no more.

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Old December 20th, 2009 #13
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The sense of justice that most Whites are born with makes fighting the jews much more difficult. We're going to have to expel them. Only a few jew criminals will be executed.
That is what happened under Hitler. After the war the Jews were all going to be settled on Madagascar or somewhere in the East.

The Hollywood version of National-Socialism is a Jewish-made caricature that never would have come to power in Germany.

I haven't listened to the Giles interview with "Hunter Wallace" yet but I can imagine from hearing Giles a couple of times that he would find him annoying, because HW's character seems to leave something to be desired. The fact that he has now changed his political views based on how Giles spoke to him is in itself a demonstration that those views were weakly held. He seems to be more committed to his own vanity than to the cause.

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Old December 20th, 2009 #14
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I’m also taking a small break from blogging. I need a few days to sit down and seriously reflect upon everything else I may have been wrong about. I’ve spent way too much time on the internet lately. I’m exhausted and want to enjoy the Christmas season.I won’t touch the Jewish Question again before examining it with a moral eye. How did I become so morally broken that I was willing to engage these degenerates?
Go put your dress on, you fucking sissy!
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Old December 20th, 2009 #15
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Go put your dress on, you fucking sissy!
You've got that right, what a hand-wringing pussy he turned out to be.
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Old December 20th, 2009 #16
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You know, the people who knew him when he ran The Phora said that Fade/Hunter is a fickle nut who changes his mind frequently about many things and who has a history of compulsive lying and explosive, angry meltdowns. I had a hard time until recently buying that because he seemed fairly dispassionate. But now it's like this Giles thing has given him a total mental disruption (which the Phorons like "il ragno" say was a frequent occurance) and he's now referring to anti-loxists as "cancerous" and ruing the day he ever spoke to any of us. Oh well, this sort of thing might actually be in character for him. Well, HW, have a nice life.
 
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I noticed the people at that blog like to smear everyone who isn't a philo semite by calling them a psychopath, lunatic, drunkard, unemployable, etc. These are the same guys who spend 12 hours a day writing up extremly boring essays on subjects that have been beaten to death, so I don't think any of them are setting the world on fire with their careers. The fact that they shy away from the Jew question is puzzling. If the Jews didn't exist there wouldn't be a reason for WN. It isn't the Africans, Arabs or Asian trying to genocide us.
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195Hunter Wallace


Alex Linder and Jim Giles = Matt Hale and Benjamin Smith

Benjamin_Nathaniel_Smith Benjamin_Nathaniel_Smith

Benjamin Nathaniel Smith (1978-July 4, 1999) was a spree killer who targeted members of racial and ethnic minorities in random drive-by shootings in Illinois and Indiana, USA during the weekend of July 4, 1999.

Smith was a follower of the white supremacist organization now known as the Creativity Movement, and was a devoted disciple of the group’s leader Matthew Hale. Two days after Hale was denied a license to practice law in Illinois, Smith loaded his light blue Ford Taurus with guns and ammunition and ventured on a three-day, two-state shooting spree that killed two people and wounded nine others.[2]

Beginning on the evening of Friday, July 2, Smith wounded six Orthodox Jews in drive-by shootings in the West Rogers Park neighborhood of Chicago. Smith then shot and killed former Northwestern University basketball coach Ricky Byrdsong, an African-American, in front of two of his three children while they were walking outside Byrdsong’s Skokie, Illinois home. On Saturday, Smith traveled to Urbana, Springfield and later Decatur, where he shot and wounded an African-American minister. On Sunday, July 4, Smith traveled to Bloomington, Indiana, where he killed Won-Joon Yoon, a 26-year-old Korean doctoral student in computer science at Indiana University, who was on his way to the Korean United Methodist Church.

Smith also shot at but missed another nine people. On Sunday, July 4, while fleeing the police in a high-speed chase on a southern Illinois highway, Smith shot himself twice in the head and crashed his automobile into a metal post. He then shot himself again, in the heart, this time fatally. He was later pronounced dead at the hospital.

It is widely believed that Smith’s crimes were related to his affiliation with the World Church of the Creator, which views him as a martyr. The group argued that Smith believed himself to be a soldier of the Racial Holy War movement.

A chapter of Lone Wolf (a study of spree killers), by Pan Pantziarka, is devoted to Smith and his crimes.
 
Old December 20th, 2009 #19
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I noticed the people at that blog like to smear everyone who isn't a philo semite by calling them a psychopath, lunatic, drunkard, unemployable, etc. These are the same guys who spend 12 hours a day writing up extremly boring essays on subjects that have been beaten to death, so I don't think any of them are setting the world on fire with their careers. The fact that they shy away from the Jew question is puzzling. If the Jews didn't exist there wouldn't be a reason for WN. It isn't the Africans, Arabs or Asian trying to genocide us.
Actually there are a lot of commenters there who agree with us and are not philosemites nor are they boring; WP, trainspotter, captainchaos, mr. dithers, kulaks never learn, the admiral, uh, neo-nietzsche, etc. It's just that HW has chosen to side with Friedrich Braun's point of view.
 
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You know, the people who knew him when he ran The Phora said that Fade/Hunter is a fickle nut who changes his mind frequently about many things and who has a history of compulsive lying and explosive, angry meltdowns. I had a hard time until recently buying that because he seemed fairly dispassionate. But now it's like this Giles thing has given him a total mental disruption (which the Phorons like "il ragno" say was a frequent occurance) and he's now referring to anti-loxists as "cancerous" and ruing the day he ever spoke to any of us. Oh well, this sort of thing might actually be in character for him. Well, HW, have a nice life.
I never knew of him when he went under the name "Fade," but I've seen him attacked by that name on some other forums. I followed him when his site was called "Odessa Syndicate." Sometime during the 2008 election, he flipped out and became pro-Obama and anti-"racist" for about 2 or 3 weeks, writing bizarre and ranting blogs. A little later, he said he had some sort of mental breakdown and was "off his meds," and went back to racialism. That put me off him, but began to read him again in recent months since he's been putting out good material.
 
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