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Old April 14th, 2011 #1
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14 April 2011

Why the "Northwest Republic" Idea belongs to the 1980s


Greg Johnson, who was fired as editor of The Occidental Quarterly last year for giving publicity to Harold Covington, now has his own blog where he has recently resumed giving publicity to Harold Covington. (We thought Greg might have learned something but apparently not.)

Johnson's blog has a discussion going on right now about the "Northwest Imperative" that is advocated in Covington's fantasy novels. A big part of Covington's argument for the Pacific Northwest as a breakaway all-White republic is the fact that it has been, relatively speaking, a hotbed of White racial separatism. The inland Pacific Northwest has had somewhat more than its share of famous White Separatists, most prominently Robert Mathews, whose group of several dozen revolutionaries known as "The Order" made news for a couple of years in the 1980s before being crushed.


I just relistened to Robert Mathews' speech that he gave at a National Alliance function in 1983. Mathews explained that the Pacific Northwest had many distressed farmers that were receptive to radical ideas because of the farm-mortgage crisis that was going on at the time. If you do a Google News search on farm mortgage foreclosure you find a peak of stories containing those terms in the early 1980s. The only other comparable peak is around 1930, and it's twice as high.

So this Northwest Republic idea is in a way a kind of nostalgia for an effect of the early 80s farm crisis, combined with the wish that it had been a lot more significant than it was. There has been an increase in stories about farm foreclosures in the past few years but not on the magnitude of the early 80s. Farmers are actually doing pretty well these days even while the economy in general is very sick. I think if Bob Mathews were alive today and trying to recruit a revolutionary cadre he would be more likely to find them among the unemployed and grossly underemployed men of the deindustrialized regions of the country, than in the Pacific Northwest.

I sent this to Tom Metzger, who was among the original advocates of a Northwest homeland. His response appears below.


Tom Metzger Comments:



Bob Mathews gravitated toward the plight of White family farmers early on, back in the eighties, and this happened to dovetail with right wing conservative lip service of that era. After Mathews was murdered, Lewis Beam continued the fight, and began promoting the 'leaderless resistance' strategy.


Boots on the ground White leaders then were Bob Miles, Richard Butler, Tom Metzger and a few others. They fought for the best interests of ALL White working class folks... including the farmers. Unfortunately, they had little chance of success, primarily because the Racial right fought them tooth & nail! Most Racial right leaders are not populist, socialist or working class oriented people. They cling to failed Republican-type upper middle class fantasies, and they willfully throw White working class folks under the bus, rather than ally with us 'Racists'. There is a history of this going back to at least the early thirties.


AWOL Racial right leaders -- made worse by the northern invasion of non-Whites and vast numbers of California social Marxists, plus their rich degenerate camp followers -- turned the Northwest Republic idea into nothing more than the fading hope of dreamers, or worse. That's when the three of us agreed: "It's too late for the Northwest idea!" -- working class young White people should hunker down in those areas they know best, maintaining their social and economic networks in place.


The entire subject was moot until Harold Covington, on the run, fled northwest to avoid paying a slander case judgment to Will Williams. 'Rabbi' Covington, close enough to beleaguered remnants of Aryan Nations (and anyone else he could suck in), then started his current good ship lolly pop scam. Had he not been on the lam, and apparently safe from the judgment, his Northwest scheme would never have occurred to him. He would have remained back east where the pickings were easier. Now, rather than living in some backwoods log cabin among the folks who fly his Northwest Scam flag high, Covington is comfortably ensconced in urban headquarters, near non-whites who reside around there wall to wall.


If Harold Covington could force march to the city limits from his hideout, without sustaining a heart attack, I would be greatly surprised.


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It has been brought to my attention that a blog run by Covington had posts on it from a Ron or Ron D., Ron from Richmond and one even stated Ron Doggett, attacking Will Williams.

I want to make it clear I'm NOT the author of those posts (most likely Covington is), I consider Will Williams to be a long time friend and one of the best White patriot's I've ever had the pleasure of knowing. His dedication to the cause has been proven time and time again.

If any "movement" Northwest or otherwise has Covington as its main spokesperson it is doomed regardless of any other issues.
 
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The only 'movement' I know of that is worth 2 cents is one that is happening naturally that covers an area from the western shores of the Great Lakes - Wisconsin/Upper Michigan - and extends westward thru such locations as Kalispell, Montana.

Although there is a small mix of undesirables such as Somalis, Hmong, and common street niggers and spics, they are greatly outnumbered by Whites.

Many White Racialists are relocating to these upper States, a sort of gathering of forces. I hope this trend continues and we all start communicating toward the betterment of our 'situation'.
 
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I was recently contacted by someone who informed me that Tubby was posting comments on his blog from a "Fred S."

That is not me. I have never posted anything on Harold Covington's blog, or even read it.
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What are the main differences between Pacific Northwest, Kalispell, Montana and PLE?
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What are the main differences between Pacific Northwest, Kalispell, Montana and PLE?
One of the differences is that a PLE doesn't go out of its way to set off alarm bells of secessionism and give the Feds an excuse to crush them the way Covington's "Northwest Republic" idea does. And obviously a PLE doesn't have to be in the Northwest. Kalispell isn't really in Covington's make-believe republic either, but he stretched the border to include April Gaede because unlike Ron Doggett and Fred Streed she really will talk to him.
 
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Of course the PLE effort doesn't concern ZOG in the least because it is no threat to their dominance in any area. The PLE effort seems to be a variant of the old South African 'Bantustan' concept and is doomed to be no more successful than the pock-marked attempt at a 'two-state' solution being imposed on Palestinians.

I wasn't able to find a map showing established PLE's.. is there one?
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I was recently contacted by someone who informed me that Tubby was posting comments on his blog from a "Fred S."

That is not me. I have never posted anything on Harold Covington's blog, or even read it.
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It has been brought to my attention that a blog run by Covington had posts on it from a Ron or Ron D., Ron from Richmond and one even stated Ron Doggett, attacking Will Williams.

I want to make it clear I'm NOT the author of those posts (most likely Covington is), I consider Will Williams to be a long time friend and one of the best White patriot's I've ever had the pleasure of knowing. His dedication to the cause has been proven time and time again.

If any "movement" Northwest or otherwise has Covington as its main spokesperson it is doomed regardless of any other issues.

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Covington's broadcasts are getting pretty bad - think we are done.

He's got that whining, demoralizing tone in which he talks down to his listeners as if they are the biggest losers on the planet.

The average person has no clue how destructive that kind of talk is to individual achievement, let alone group achievement. Whiners and other malcontents should be run out.

Some people have no clue as to the awesome opportunity we have before us and the great strides we made. Go onto the comments of news stories on mainstream sites and see for yourself. WN-thinking people are EVERYWHERE. This jew PC bullshit is on the way out.
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Some people have no clue as to the awesome opportunity we have before us and the great strides we made. Go onto the comments of news stories on mainstream sites and see for yourself. WN-thinking people are EVERYWHERE. This jew PC bullshit is on the way out.
True. Much more common than a few years ago. This is also why the jews are desperate to try to control White Nationalism. They troll forums such as this and promote a kinder and gentler WNism that doesn't name the jew and they push conservatism as "White Nationalism".
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Sixteen years ago, in 1995, Harold Covington impersonated me on a newsgroup to arouse antagonism toward me among National Alliance posters. His deception was discovered and criticized, and to the criticism he responded with the words "Booga! Booga! Booga!"
 
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True. Much more common than a few years ago. This is also why the jews are desperate to try to control White Nationalism. They troll forums such as this and promote a kinder and gentler WNism that doesn't name the jew and they push conservatism as "White Nationalism".
Well at the risk of seeming somewhat cliche: there appears to be a great deal of intellectual and ideological exhaustion on the leftist, conservative and liberal sides of the fence in the States as well as their simple inability to explain why all their pet schemes in regards to race have a nasty habit of failing.

Also the ongoing economic crisis has exposed the largely European middle class to the fact that they are openly discriminated against because they aren't a spic or a nigger, which is forcing them to face racial and Darwinian reality as you can't run and hide in the suburbs forever when you don't have the means to do so anymore. Also as those doing the discriminating tend to be accredited government agencies they don't have much faith in the traditional conservatives (Republicans) or liberals (Democrats) solutions so they are seeking alternatives in the various spectra of the political 'far right' (as nobody takes the 'far left' seriously apart from themselves).

I think the fact that it has become publicly acceptable for academics and intellectuals; on the left and right, to talk about the Israel lobby and the activities of the jews (by implication) has also helped clear the air from all the holier-than-thou jew bullshit that you saw infecting intellectual circles from the 60s to the early years of this century. We've had an absolute flourishing of mainstream anti-Zionist and Israel Lobby literature ever since Walt and Mearsheimer dropped their intellectual bomb-shell and now as much as the jew tries; witness the latest attempt to counter this by the jew Israel-firster Mitchell Bard 'The Arab Lobby' (spinning of the old leftist petro-dollars canard dressed up like a dog's dinner), he can't force the genie back in the bottle.

It'll be interesting to see what happens in the US radical right in the next two decades, but Covington certainly won't be a major (or minor) part of it: that much is obvious to any thinking person outside of Tubs' North-West Amen Corner.
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It'll be interesting to see what happens in the US radical right in the next two decades, but Covington certainly won't be a major (or minor) part of it: that much is obvious to any thinking person outside of Tubs' North-West Amen Corner.



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There is no area safe from the heeb lawyers, as they are ubiquitous. And, Nafta and lax border security have contributed to an influx of muds into the farming communities of Southern Washington (Tri-cities to Yakima), but north of there and East of the Cascades, it remains relatively White. Parts of Northern Idaho are veritable nigger free zones, where you have to go on a coon hunt to find a black face. The Northwest (excluding the coastal strip area from Seattle south to Portland) is still virtually white all the way to North Dakota, and this still may end up being the safe zone. But, there are numerous other White areas to migrate to also. Don't hunker down in any area that is less than fifty percent White, (leave Socal). Best find a majority White area to settle in ASAP, especially since the kosher economy seems to rapidly be heading south. When TSHTF, Whites might as well wear a target on their backs if they are in mud infested area.
 
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I consider Will Williams to be a long time friend and one of the best White patriot's I've ever had the pleasure of knowing. His dedication to the cause has been proven time and time again..
Ron, does attacking other WNs , like ex girlsfriends who wouldnt marry him, qualify for dedication to the cause?


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If any "movement" Northwest or otherwise has Covington as its main spokesperson it is doomed regardless of any other issues.
Covington is but one person advocating NW migration and you well know that. Dont throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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I think people are looking for some magic leader who is going to fix things
and create some kind of organization to fix our problems.
The point here is that the northwestern part of our nation is overwhelmingly white. Do we need a organization or leader to tell us to move to a place where we are not living in a non-stop chimpout? If things were to get really bad in this country we will all be better off living closer to each other instead of scattered all over the place.
 
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Ron, does attacking other WNs , like ex girlsfriends who wouldnt marry him, qualify for dedication to the cause?
Ha. Will's persuasive exposes of you, combined with your feeble responses and non-responses over the years, have amply justified his "attacks".

Think. . . "horse trailer".

You wouldn't dare even mention his name here, if he was allowed to post a reply.
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http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/0...-in-northwest/

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The Aryan Nations and its late leader Richard Butler once sought to create a “whites only” homeland in the Inland Northwest. The group eventually was crushed by a Southern Poverty Law Center lawsuit. Its compound was obliterated. And its membership was splintered.

Now, an analysis of Census data demonstrates that its dream, too, is dead.

Speaking today to the Kootenai County Democratic Club in Idaho, civil rights activist Tony Stewart offered the proof.

“I stand here 38 years after Richard Butler and the Aryan Nations arrived in northern Idaho to present to you the overwhelming evidence that diversity and a multiculture society are prevailing over the advocates of a whites-only region,’’ Stewart said.

Stewart, a retired professor with a background in statistics, said his analysis of census data shows that minority populations are growing much more rapidly that the white population in the state of Idaho, and in four North Idaho counties and adjoining Spokane County in Washington.

Turning that region into a “whites only” homeland was one of the main goals of Butler when he moved from California to Hayden Lake, Idaho, in the late 1970s and opened the doors of his Christian Identity church, commonly known as the Aryan Nations.

Not long thereafter, Stewart and others founded the Kootenai County Task Force on Human Relations, which has received national awards and recognition for its model work in combating hate groups.

Stewart cited the Southern Poverty Law Center’s successful civil rights lawsuit against the Aryan Nations as a key factor in changing the public’s perception of the region. The suit was brought on behalf of a woman and her son who were chased down and assaulted by gun-toting neo-Nazis from Butler’s 20-acre compound. A jury in 2000 returned a $6.3 million judgment, forcing Butler and the Aryan Nations to file for bankruptcy. His compound of buildings was crushed by bulldozers and burned, and the site is now a “peace park” where cattle and deer graze.

After that legal victory against the Aryans, Stewart said, there was a rapid increase in the non-white population in North Idaho.

Stewart said he believes the minority population “could feel safer after the dismantling” of the neo-Nazi compound, described by many as the world headquarters for the modern-day white supremacy movement.

“The worldwide attention given to the trial and news of the former compound and world headquarters of the Aryan Nations being turned into a peace park may be a contributing factor in the rapid increase of the number of non-white/multi-racial families and individuals moving to the Inland Northwest,’’ Stewart said.

Stewart analyzed census data for the counties of Kootenai, Latah, Bonner and Nez Perce in North Idaho and for Spokane County, across the state line in Washington.

In those counties, the white population grew by 11.7% between 2000 and 2010, compared to 44.2% for the non-white/multi-race population.

The same population trends seen in those five counties apply to the state Idaho, as well. Between 2000 and 2010, the state’s white population grew by 15.5% statewide, compared to 73% for Hispanics, 81.5% for African Americans, 59.2% for Asian Americans, and 46.7% for two or more races.

“The data confirms we are becoming a region that will experience and celebrate diversity,’’ Stewart said, adding that the region “will enjoy a future that embraces many cultures.”

“The good news is the supremacists have failed in their attempt to create an all-Aryan homeland in our beautiful Inland Northwest,’’ he said.

Stewart said he wasn’t suggesting that the region’s racial problems are solved or eradicated. “As we celebrate this progress, let us not turn our eyes away from the injustices that still exist in our communities, the United States and around the world. Each day we observe examples of prejudice and bigotry resulting in many forms of harassment, intimidation and even violent acts.”
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So what will be be the the upside for your kind if the kwa becomes mexishits and nigs?
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The white spic Mexicans (i.e. the problem) will be repatriated with the rest of you. The rest are generally Indians, and are natives of this continent. The euros are the population that came here for the purpose of encroachment; they are the aggressors, and they are therefore the only population that is to be targeted for repatriation.
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