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Old March 30th, 2012 #21
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Has anyone else noticed the obsession that the DM has with WWII? Not a day goes by without at least two Hitler/nazi/holocaust/KZ scraping-the-barrel stories.
zog knows that the sheep have a short attention span and even shorter memory. zog is afraid that the sheep will forget why its supposed to hate Hitler and NS unless they keep putting it in the media. Thats why pay TV keeps showing so called documentaries on WW2 all the time
 
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Wouldn't be a new day without a new story.....
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A huge chunk of the largest holiday camp ever constructed by the Nazis has been sold for £2.2million.

Block One of the Colossus of Prora - built by Hitler in the 1930s along the lines of Butlins in the UK - will be converted into a 400-bed luxury hotel and 400 apartments.

The building, the single-biggest sold in post-war Germany, had a reserve price of £700,000, but telephone bidding at a Berlin auction on Saturday sent the price soaring.



Prora was constructed on the Baltic island of Ruegen by the stormtroopers of the Nazi 'Strength Through Joy' leisure organisation over a six-year period and occupies nearly three miles of beachfront.

It was meant to provide holiday entertainment for 20,000 of Hitler's hordes at any one time. But not a single Nazi ever got to stay there.


The last rooms of the 'Butlins-of-the-dark-side' were finished just as World War Two began in 1939 and Prora was left empty, the greatest white elephant of all time.

It was occupied after 1945 by the Red Army and became a top-secret Soviet base.


White elephant: The Colossus of Prora was built in the same vein as Butlins (above) in the UK, but it didn't even get off the ground as the outbreak of World War Two and subsequent defeat of Hitler left it empty

After German reunification, all the buildings were given listed status and a very few have been transformed into holiday flats.
as yet another aspect of human activity to be governed by the Nazis

After the auction on Saturday, it is hoped that investment in the remaining miles of accommodation will rise until all are given a makeover.

Initial fears that neo-Nazis would buy into the blocks have proved unfounded.

So far, there are a few luxury flats and a youth hostel in the buildings at the site 120 miles from Berlin.

Block One is nearly 1,200ft long and auctioneer Mark Karhausen juggled bids from least ten developers.

Nearly £5million has to date been raised for the government in sales of parts of the Prora complex.

After the war, the Soviets considered blowing it up, but discovered they didn't have enough dynamite for the job.

Instead they turned it into a massive tank-and-artillery base for the Peoples' Army of East Germany and it vanished from all maps.

A museum at the site chronicles the history of Prora which, aside from the building of the Atlantic Wall of coastal fortifications stretching from Norway to the border of Spain - intended to thwart any Allied landings in occupied Europe - was Hitler's biggest building project.

The Nazis viewed leisure as just one more aspect of human activity to be governed by the party.

Prora was destined to be the forerunner of a string of such giant camps whose plans were mothballed due to the war he unleashed on the world.
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On a road near Lake Como, a black Fiat saloon pulled up by the roadside.

A man with a gun jumped out and forced out the other occupants, who included a thickset, bald man of 61, his famous hypnotic eyes now clouded with fear, and his lover, a beautiful young woman who was weeping and clinging to him.

The couple were ordered to stand against a wall. The gunman spoke few words about death and justice for the Italian people, then raised his weapon.


Starlets: Audrey Hepburn (left) and Sophia Loren (right) were both thrust into the limelight after struggling to survive during the Second World War

‘You can’t do that!’ shouted the woman, you can’t shoot Mussolini!’ The gunman, an Italian partisan, ordered her to get away from him, but she refused. He pulled the trigger.

Nothing happened. The gun had jammed. The man hurriedly took another gun. Benito Mussolini was a bully and a coward who had been caught trying to flee Italy in disguise as the Allies advanced through the country. But now he managed to summon a façade of bravery.



Throwing open his coat, he faced the partisan squarely: ‘Shoot me in the chest,’ he ordered.

This time the gun did not jam. The first bullet hit his mistress. Clara Petacci fell to the ground, dead.

Mussolini, meanwhile, slid to the ground. Walking over, the partisan shot him again at close range. Mussolini jerked convulsively. Then he was still.


The news travelled swiftly. In England, Winston Churchill was delighted at the demise of the dictator. In Germany, Hitler made no comment when handed the news on a slip of paper. He had already announced that he had no intention of being taken alive by the Russians who were encircling Germany.

In Italy, in the port of Pozzuoli, near Naples, a ten-year-old girl named Sophia Villani heard the news, but she was more preoccupied with finding food than the death of the dictator.

For the last five years, Sophia had known only war. Together with her sister Maria and her mother Romilda — the girls’ father had deserted the family — they had watched from the balcony of their squalid little apartment as German soldiers beat and shot people in the streets below, rounding up Jews and throwing them into their trucks.

‘My young eyes saw one appalling, gruesome spectacle after another,’ she would later recall.

She was injured in an air raid, a piece of shrapnel hitting her on the chin, leaving a vivid scar and became so thin from food shortages that she was known as ‘the toothpick’.

When the Allies arrived in Italy, the American GIs and some Scots soldiers took pity on the little street urchin — and her beautiful mother — and shared their rations with them.

None of them could have suspected that years later she would become a movie star after catching the eye of film producer Carlo Ponti when she entered a beauty contest in Naples at the age of 14. He became her mentor and, eventually, her husband.

But at the end of the war, she was just a hungry child, another innocent victim of the war that had starved, dehumanised and killed millions across Europe.

As Mussolini’s battered body swung in Milan, the Allies and Soviets raced to liberate Europe as the German Reich crumbled. But while generals and politicians were deciding Europe’s future, most people were concerned merely with survival.

Now a riveting new book tells the story of those tumultuous five days at the end of the war, including the experiences of ordinary people, some of whom would later lead extraordinary and famous lives.

While Sophia Loren and her family were anxiously wondering what would happen to them after Mussolini’s death, in Arnhem in Holland, another young girl was on the point of starvation.

The Allies had tried to take the town in September 1944. But Operation Market Garden had failed, and by April 1945, the Dutch were so starving that they were reduced to frying tulip bulbs, their ragged clothing hanging loose on their gaunt frames. That spring so many died of starvation that they ran out of coffins to bury them.

Fifteen-year-old Audrey Hepburn-Ruston had been hovering close to death for months, sick with jaundice, her legs and feet swollen from oedema caused by malnutrition, so weak with hunger that she could barely climb the stairs in her grandfather’s home, just outside Arnhem.


Audrey’s mother was a Dutch aristocrat, but her father was English and they had been living in Britain before the war.

Following her parents’ divorce, when war began Audrey’s mother took her back to Holland, believing they would be safer as it was neutral. But the Germans invaded in 1940 and the young Audrey watched her Jewish neighbours being herded into trucks, men into one truck, women into another, babies into another.

‘We did not yet know that they were going to their death,’ she would remember years later.

She lived in fear of being kidnapped and taken to a military brothel as so many other girls had been. She was once picked up by the Germans to work on their kitchens but managed to escape.
She began working for the Resistance, carrying messages in her shoes.

But in April 1945 as the fighting came closer, she and her family took refuge in the cellar as the Germans and Allies fought from house to house. ‘Once in a while, you’d go up and see how much of your house was left, and then you’d go back under again,’ she recalled.


Then on the morning of April 29, the shelling and shooting stopped. Audrey heard voices and singing, and smelt English cigarettes. They crept upstairs and opened the front door to find the house surrounded by English soldiers all aiming their guns at them.

‘I screamed with happiness, seeing all these cocky figures with dirty bright faces and shouted something in English … a cheer went up that they’d liberated an English girl.’

At the war’s end, she returned to London and began training as a ballet dancer, but her slight physique meant that she would never reach the top.

She became a chorus girl then had a series of small parts in British films before being picked for the lead role in the play Gigi on Broadway aged 22, which in turn launched her Hollywood career.

In the week she was liberated by British troops in Holland, far away to the east, BBC journalist Richard Dimbleby — father of David and Jonathan — was reporting from the liberated concentration camp Belsen on the living skeletons he encountered there.

He saw corpses with their liver and kidneys cut out by their Nazi captors, evidence of cannibalism, and men and women thrown still alive into the crematorium. His editors didn’t believe him and refused to broadcast it.


Not until a furious Dimbleby threatened to resign did they agree to transmit a toned down version. As the British began to organise the burial of the stinking corpses — among them that of 15-year-old diarist Anne Frank — soldiers hurried to bring rations to the starving survivors.

One of them was a young Scots Guard, Lieutenant Robert Runcie. The future Archbishop of Canterbury was known as ‘Killer’ because of the lack of hesitation with which he despatched the enemy: he was later awarded the Military Cross for bravery. He was wondering how much longer Hitler would hold out. Not much longer was the answer.


Ruthless: Young Scots Guard, Lieutenant Robert Runcie, the future Archbishop of Canterbury, was known as 'Killer'

On April 30, as Russian artillery pounded the Reich Chancellery, in his underground bunker 30ft below the Fuhrer realised that the end had come. He ate a gloomy last lunch with his staff then retired to his room with Eva.

But while Hitler and Eva prepared to die, upstairs in the Chancellery canteen a party was in full swing. For the last few days, as it became clear that there would be no escape from the Chancellery, the soldiers and secretaries trapped there had sought distraction in drink and sex.

An SS doctor in the Chancellery was astonished to see generals chasing half-naked female office staff around and group sex going on in dark corners.

‘The more discreet retired to Dr Kunz’s dentist chair upstairs. The chair seemed to have a special erotic attraction. The wilder women enjoyed being strapped in and made love to in a variety of novel positions.’

Some time after lunch, a shot rang out. Hitler was dead.

Elsewhere in Germany, a teenage conscript, Joseph Ratzinger, managed to desert without being caught. As he fled from his comrades and contemplated the ruin of his nation, it must surely not have entered his wildest dreams that 60 years later he would be anointed as Pope.

It was on May 2 that the battle for Berlin ended. The Berlin garrison commander ordered his troops to stop fighting, and formally surrendered to the Russians.

Later that day, the German army in Italy surrendered, too.

Far to the south of Berlin, Kurt Vonnegut, an American soldier who had been taken prisoner during the Battle of the Bulge in 1944, was in a prisoner of war camp in Dresden.

When the Allies had bombed the city in 1945, killing an estimated 25,000 people, he’d taken shelter during the raid in an abattoir named Slaughterhouse Five. In the aftermath, as he helped the Germans clear the dead, he felt only shame for humanity.

In the days after Hitler died, Vonnegut was still a prisoner in the camp, from which he was eventually released. But his harrowing experiences at Dresden would later inspire his most famous novel, Slaughterhouse-Five.

Some of Vonnegut’s fellow countrymen, who had risked their lives in combat, found safety back across the Atlantic.

In the last week of April 1945, future American president Lieutenant Jack Kennedy — who’d won a medal for valour in the Pacific as a torpedo boat commander and been honourably discharged from the Navy — was sent by his father Joe to a United Nations conference in San Francisco.



Meanwhile, Joseph Heller, later the celebrated author of Catch 22, had made it home to Texas. Heller, who’d flown 60 missions as a bombadier in Italy with the U.S. Airforce’s 488th squadron, later admitted: ‘The enemy was trying to kill me, and I wanted to go home.’

Back in Europe, it was on May 7, 1945, that Germany’s new leader Admiral Doenitz finally agreed to unconditional surrender, which came into effect at midnight on May 8.

All over Europe people were making their way home, hoping to be reunited with loved ones who had been wrenched from them by war. In Krakow, Poland, 11-year-old Roman Polanski was one of the lucky few who had escaped when the Germans rounded up the Jews from the ghetto.

His parents were less fortunate: first his mother then his father were taken, leaving Polanski to live almost feral, roaming the streets with other boys.

In the days after the end of the war, he made his way to the train station, where he hoped to find his parents among those returning from the camps. Though he watched bitterly as other reunions took place, his parents never came. After the war he was reunited with his father, but Polanski never saw his mother again.

Jewish businessman Otto Frank, meanwhile, was making the long journey back from Auschwitz to Amsterdam.

Though he knew that his wife was dead, he prayed that his daughters Anne and Margot had survived. But when he got to Amsterdam, he learned that they had died, too. All that remained of them was Anne’s diary of their time in hiding.

Like millions of others all over Europe, Runcie, Ratzinger, Sophia Loren, Audrey Hepburn and all the others began picking up the pieces of their lives. They had survived, but like everyone else who had endured those horrifying years, they would be forever marked by trauma of war.
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Audrey Hepburns dad had an Irish accent lived in south London and was a life long unrepentant nazi and Mosleyite.She was in regular contact with him and visited him when in London.Mussolini was of course slotted by alan whicker the British Army Intelligence Officer when Mussolini was bought to him by Partisans.
This sort of book is ballocks we have all seen the films of the moaty like thugs shaving the hair of women - the Danes murdering German Babies and of course Marlene collecting her sister from Belsen where she had run the guards canteen.
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Audrey Hepburns dad had an Irish accent lived in south London and was a life long unrepentant nazi and Mosleyite.She was in regular contact with him and visited him when in London.Mussolini was of course slotted by alan whicker the British Army Intelligence Officer when Mussolini was bought to him by Partisans.
This sort of book is ballocks we have all seen the films of the moaty like thugs shaving the hair of women - the Danes murdering German Babies and of course Marlene collecting her sister from Belsen where she had run the guards canteen.
Someone has commented on the DM that both of Audrey's parents were Nazi sympathisers. I knew her dad was but didn't know her mum was as well (if the commenter was correct - I haven't checked.)
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Churchill and Hitler - double whammy.

The two Churchills who defeated Hitler: TV historian David Starkey reveals how an ancestor inspired Winston to win the war



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Back in September 1932, a distinguished British visitor was spending a few days in the German city of Munich.

His name was Winston Churchill MP: one-time cabinet minister, now just a backbencher. So this was not an official trip, but nor was Winston simply a tourist.

He was in the city to carry out field research for the book he was writing: a biography of his ancestor, John Churchill, Duke of Marlborough, Britain’s greatest general, whose famous victory over the French at the Battle of Blenheim in 1704 had taken place about 40 miles away, and whose influence on his famous descendant is the subject of my new three-part TV series.


In 1932 Germany was in turmoil, destabilised by the Great Depression. There were four million unemployed, and a new political party, the National Socialist Workers Party, was making rapid electoral strides. Its ‘Führer’, Adolf Hitler, was clearly the coming man of German politics. At his hotel, Winston was introduced to one of Hitler’s financial backers, a German-American art dealer with the memorable name of ‘Putzi’ Hanfstaengl. Putzi turned out to be good company.



‘He went to the piano and played and sang in such a remarkable style that we all enjoyed ourselves immensely,’ Winston later wrote. ‘He said that Herr Hitler came every day to the hotel at five o’clock, and would be very glad indeed to see me. I had no national prejudices against Hitler at this time. He had a perfect right to be a patriotic German if he chose.’ And so Putzi arranged a meeting between the two.

That meeting is one of the great ‘what ifs’ of history. For Hitler failed to turn up, apparently feeling it was not worth the effort. ‘After all, what part does Churchill play?’ Hitler told Putzi. ‘He is in opposition and nobody pays any attention to what he says.’ That, of course, was a misjudgement. Churchill would return to power, to be the Führer’s nemesis. And, curiously, his biography of Marlborough helped to pave Winston’s way to Number 10.
I am sure it was his absorption in the world of the late 17th century that enabled Churchill to understand the Nazis better than his contemporaries, and faster

We tend to think of Winston Churchill as a politician and an orator. We sometimes forget he was also an aristocrat, a soldier, a writer and a historian. His greatest work of history, apart perhaps from his insider’s account of World War II, is undoubtedly Marlborough: His Life And Times. It’s a massive work, over a million words published in four volumes between 1933 and 1938.

One hesitates to use a word like magic when talking about something as sober as history, but with this book there is repeatedly a sense that you’re not quite sure which century and which tense anything is referring to. It’s a book about a man who led a coalition of Allies in a war to prevent the domination of Europe by an aggressive hegemonic power, written by another man who would, after he set down his pen, take up the same role in another global conflict. Studying his ancestor’s struggles against Louis XIV turned out to be the best possible preparation for Winston’s duel with Hitler.

Like Hitler, Louis XIV was territorially aggressive, constantly striving to extend the borders of France through conquest. And also like Hitler, Louis waged a brutal internal war against a religious minority: not Jews, but French Protestants, the Huguenots. Winston’s description of Louis as ‘the curse and pest of Europe, petty and mediocre in all except his lusts and power’ could apply to the preening Nazi dictator, except it was written before Hitler came to power.


When Hitler became Chancellor of Germany in January 1933 – through completely constitutional means – many people in England thought he was a man they could do business with. But Churchill was astonishingly quick to recognise the true nature of the regime, warning Parliament in April about the ‘grim dictatorship’ forming in Germany.

I am sure it was his absorption in the world of the late 17th century that enabled Churchill to understand the Nazis better than his contemporaries, and faster. But at first the publication of the Marlborough volumes, which were serialised in the Sunday Times, reinforced the view that Winston was an old-fashioned warmonger.

In 1930s Britain, scarred by the slaughter of the Great War, pacifism was pretty much universal. Everybody, from the Royal Family to the wildest fringes of the left, agreed that Britain must never fight another European war. We must disarm. There must be peace. Yet here was this man writing about the wicked old Europe and apparently glorifying war.

As the decade wore on, and the threat from Germany became ever more obvious, people began to read each new volume about Marlborough differently. It became clear that Churchill was the only serious politician of the front rank who had thought about war; who had contemplated what has to be done in war; who really understood it.

Marlborough is part of the reason the nation turned to Winston when war came. Among those who were impressed by the book was the American President, Franklin Roosevelt. When we were filming in the US for my new series, we found three different inscribed copies in his study at his estate in New York. Roosevelt, like Churchill, was a man steeped in history, and the book became a kind of currency in their relationship, the subject of private jokes.

That was just one way in which Marlborough helped Winston win the war. But to me the real lesson is the value of history itself. Today our politicians are schooled in the social sciences, with their pseudo-scientific generalisations about human behaviour. They would do better to be guided by history, which deals with people as they really are, not as we would like them to be. I fear that until we have politicians who are formed in the same way as Churchill, we will continue in our wilderness.

The Churchills is coming soon to Channel 4.
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Rudolph Hess believed the Jews had hypnotised Churchill, according to the deputy Nazi leader's psychiatric records

Rudolph Hess believed the Jews had hypnotised Winston Curchill into taking a negative stance towards Nazi Germany, according to the Deputy Nazi leader's recently discovered psychiatric records.

Notes written by Dr Henry Dicks, one of the Army psychiatrists who monitored Hess while he was a prisoner in Britain, detail his bizarre convictions.

Hess believed Churchill had been 'mesmerised' by evil forces who were trying to kill him because he was the 'only person who knew of their secret psychic powers'.

Delusional: Hitler's deputy Rudolph Hess believed Winston Churchill had been hypnotised into taking a negative attitude towards Nazi Germany

Professor Daniel Pick, a historian and psychoanalyst from Birkbeck College, University of London, studied Dr Dicks' notes for a new book The pursuit of the Nazi mind - Hitler, Hess and the analysts which will be release in June.

He told the Daily Telegraph: 'When people told him about the concentration camps, for example, Hess was reported to have argued that if atrocities existed it must be because the Jews had hypnotised the Germans to make them behave so cruelly.'

Hess is said to have worshipped Hitler and was made his deputy in 1933.


'I regret nothing.'

Like Goebbels, he was privately distressed by the war with the United Kingdom and secretly hoped that Britain would accept Germany as an ally.
The claims are detailed in a new book by Professor Daniel Pick, The Pursuit of the Nazi Mind



In 1941 he flew to Scotland, his plane crashed but he parachuted into the country, landing near Glasgow, on an apparent

He was captured and spoke to Churchill at Ditchley Park.

Churchill initially sent him to the Tower of London, making him the last prisoner to be held in the 900-year-old fortress. Hess was detained by the British for the remainder of the war.

After the end of the war, He was tried at Nuremberg alongside other Nazi leaders and sentenced to life in prison for crimes against peace.

He famously told the tribunal, 'I regret nothing.'

Hitler viewed Hess's flight to England as an act of treachery and privately ordered he should be shot on sight should he ever return to Germany.

In his book The Second World War Winston Churchill highlighted Hess's frail mental state.

He wrote:'Whatever may be the moral guilt of a German who stood near to Hitler, Hess had, in my view, atoned for this by his completely devoted and frantic deed of lunatic benevolence.

'He came to us of his own free will, and, though without authority, had something of the quality of an envoy. He was a medical and not a criminal case, and should be so regarded.'

Following the release in 1966 of Baldur von Schirach and Albert Speer, Hess was the sole remaining inmate of Spandau Prison, partly at the insistence of the Soviets.

On 17 August 1987, Hess died at the age of 93. He was found in a summer house in a garden located in a secure area of the prison with an electrical cord wrapped around his neck.

His death was controversially ruled a suicide by asphyxiation. Spandau Prison was subsequently demolished to prevent it from becoming a shrine. He was the last surviving member of Hitler's cabinet.

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Rutgers University are investigating an article called ‘What About the Good Things that Hitler Did?’ that was published in the school’s satirical newspaper and falsely attributed to a Jewish student.

The piece, which included lines such as ‘give Hitler a little thanks’ , was written under Aaron Marcus’s name and his photograph appears beside the article.

Marcus, who lost family in the Holocaust, only found out about the piece when a friend at the New Jersey university called to ask him if he had actually written it.

'To say anything praiseworthy of someone like Hitler, and to have people actually believe it was coming from me even in a satirical manner is just really painful for me and my family,' Marcus told MyFoxNY.

The article, which was run in the April 4th edition of the student-funded Daily Medium newspaper, suggested that the Nazi dictator deserved credit for accomplishments such as the creation of the Volkswagen, arguing, 'History is subjective, people.'

It placed the word ‘atrocities’ in quotation marks and said that the Holocaust had motivated Jews to establish Israel, 'an event which . . . would not have happened without the help of ol’ Adolf.'



The student, who has previously spoken out about an anti-Semitic environment on Rutger’s campus, has filed a bias report with the university.

Rutgers' President, Richard McCormick issued a statement slamming the article as 'vicious' and 'hurtful.'


Controversial: The article made outrageous claims about the Nazi leader

The statement read: 'Federal courts extend broad protection to student media. However, a recent article in the Medium, purporting to be written by student Aaron Marcus and using Mr. Marcus’ photograph, is extremely offensive and repugnant.

'No individual student should be subject to such a vicious, provocative and hurtful piece, regardless of whether First Amendment protections apply to such expression. The Medium’s article was particularly despicable in light of Mr. Marcus’ Jewish faith.'

Marcus told a blogger that he is also seeking legal advice over the article.

'I am currently seeking legal counsel in dealing with the matter, The Medium has a right to freedom of speech, but they do not have a right to attribute an anti-Semitic Diatribe that praises Adolf Hitler under my name and image. This was a deliberate attempt to spew anti-Semitic hatred and tarnish my image and reputation,’ he told The Right Views.


Professor Ronald Miskoff, who is one of the editors of The Daily Medium newspaper, defended the decision to run the piece arguing that you don’t need permission for parody.

He told The Right Views that the piece had been written under Aaron Marcus’ name because he was a writer for the University’s rival paper – The Daily Targum.

The piece is still available on the online version of the newspaper.
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'I believe I am Hitler's grandson': French plumber tells his astonishing family story... and produces a chilling photo of his father

Philippe Loret, 56, was told he is a descendent of Adolf Hitler 40 years ago
His late father, Jean-Marie Loret, is said to have been Hitler’s secret lovechild after he was conceived in France during the First World War






Philippe Loret and his six siblings were sitting around the dining room table chatting about everyday things when their father, Jean-Marie, broke the news.

‘Suddenly my father said, “Kids, I’ve got something to tell you. Your grandfather is Adolf Hitler,” ’ explains Philippe. ‘There was stunned silence as no one knew what to say. We didn’t know how to react.’

That was 40 years ago, yet there is a sense that Philippe, 56, still doesn’t know how to react. He has never spoken out about that conversation or the fact he may be the grandson of the most infamous dictator in history. A former plumber for the French air force, he has kept it a secret from all but his closest friends, never telling his colleagues or even his partner’s family.

This is the first time Philippe has talked publicly about his ancestry and he has agreed to do so only in the light of new evidence backing up his father’s story.

Hitler's grandson? Philippe Loret, 56, has two portraits of the Fuhrer hanging on the wall of his home in Saint Quentin in Picardy, northern France

Last month Alan Wilkes, the son of Royal Engineer Leonard Wilkes, one of the first soldiers to land on the Normandy beaches on D-Day, released an entry from his father’s diary that appeared to corroborate Jean-Marie’s assertion that he was Hitler’s illegitimate son.

On September 30, 1944, Leonard wrote: ‘An interesting day today. Visited the house where Hitler stayed as a corporal in the last war, saw the woman who had a baby by him and she told us that the baby, a son, was now fighting in the French army against the Germans.’

Mr Wilkes came forward after reading new information that adds weight to Jean-Marie’s belief he was conceived during a brief relationship between his French mother, Charlotte Lobjoie, and Hitler, a young German corporal fighting in northern France in the summer of 1917.



The story of Hitler’s secret lovechild has divided historians for decades. Jean-Marie died in 1985, aged 67, but two months ago, in Paris’s Le Point magazine, his lawyer, Francois Gibault, revealed compelling evidence to support his claims.

Tests prove Jean-Marie had the same blood type as Hitler and similar handwriting. Hitler had no official children and never acknowledged or met Jean-Marie. But German army papers show that officers took envelopes of cash to Charlotte during the Second World War. When she died, Jean-Marie found paintings in her attic signed by Hitler, while in Germany a picture of a woman painted by Hitler looked exactly like Charlotte.

Most striking of all, however, was the astonishing resemblance... a resemblance that Philippe undoubtedly shares. It is there in the familiar dimpled chin, the square jaw and piercing eyes. Philippe insists he is not proud of his apparent link to Hitler, but admits he is not unhappy about it either.

Hitler's son? The similarities between Jean-Marie Loret (pictured) and Hitler are striking


Dictator: Did Hitler conceive a love child in France during the First World War?

There is something vaguely unsettling about the way he sweeps his hair into the same side parting and has a moustache, something most people would avoid were they said to be related to Hitler.

And on entering his spacious one-bedroom flat in the sleepy town of Saint-Quentin in Picardy, northern France, one’s eyes are inevitably drawn to two portraits of the Fuhrer on the wall, incongruously placed either side of an oil painting of a vase of flowers.

In all other respects, the flat is cosy, with warm yellow walls and antique furniture. Philippe’s partner, Veronique, 46, a school caretaker, bustles around, chatting and making pots of tea. They met shortly after Philippe’s wife, Rosalyn, died in 1991; they had three children.

Veronique clearly adores Philippe, who is currently off work with a heart condition, and says the fact he may be Hitler’s grandson makes no difference at all. She, like Philippe, believes the claims are true.

For his part, Philippe remains strangely unperturbed by the fact he could be a direct descendant of the man responsible for the death camps and the Holocaust.

Speaking calmly and quietly, while chain-smoking Belgian cigars, Philippe says: ‘I believe I am Hitler’s grandson. Of course I am. The evidence is there. If people don’t believe it, that’s their problem.

‘My father told me. My mother is still alive and also believes it. He is part of my family, that’s why I have him on the wall. Hitler is my family. It’s not my fault that I ended up as his grandson or that all the things happened during the war. What he did has nothing to do with me. He will always be family for me.

‘When I was first told, all I was interested in was girls, and so I didn’t think about it too much. I knew who Hitler was – I studied him at school – but I did not tell any of my school friends. My private life had nothing to do with them.

‘I married Rosalyn in 1977 when she was 19 and I was 21. She did not want to accept it at first, but then she became used to it. Veronique first found it difficult to accept too, but she does not mind it because she loves me.’

In contrast to Philippe’s sanguine approach – he has read more than 40 books on Hitler, met the daughter of Himmler and claims to have spoken to one of the dictator’s mistresses – Jean-Marie struggled with the knowledge left to him by his mother.

Philippe says: ‘By the time my father told us about Hitler being his father, he was proud of being Hitler’s son. He had trouble accepting it at first. He didn’t like this fact, but gradually he came to terms with it.’

In 1981 Jean-Marie wrote a book, Your Father’s Name Was Hitler, in which he recounted the story his mother had told him when he was in his 20s. Charlotte said he had been conceived during a ‘tipsy’ evening with Hitler in June 1917.

She said she had enjoyed a brief relationship with the Fuhrer when he was on leave in the town of Fournes-in-Weppe near Lille. It was an unlikely match. She was 16, Hitler was 28; he couldn’t speak French, she couldn’t speak German.

The couple would go walking but Charlotte told Jean-Marie: ‘These walks usually ended badly. In fact, your father, inspired by nature, launched into speeches which I did not really understand. He did not speak French, but ranted in German, talking to an imaginary audience.’


Love mystery: Charlotte Lobjoie (left) and a painting said to be of her by a young Hitler (right)

Philippe says: ‘My father told me the relationship lasted for only a few months. Hitler came under gas attack and went back to Germany to recover. He came back again for a few months and left again for Germany, and she never saw him again.

‘My father said Hitler was a good lover and was gentle with my grandmother. But apparently he was a jealous person and did not like other men giving her the eye. As far as I know he never had any sexual perversions – I don’t want to make him more than the monster he is.’

According to Philippe, Hitler painted Charlotte and he has a copy of a picture believed to be her. Published here for the first time, it shows her in the hayfields with a scarf over her head to protect her from the sun and a pitchfork in her hand. The painting has a signature, said to be that of Hitler, with the date 1916 below it. It was once owned by an art collector in the Belgian city of Ypres but has now been sold to another private collector.

Jean-Marie was born on March 25, 1918, in Seboncourt, 12 miles north of St Quentin. The shame of having an illegitimate son drove Charlotte away and she left for Paris, abandoning her newborn son to her parents. A birth certificate for Jean-Marie Loret records him as the ‘natural son’ of Miss Lobjoie.
'I don't think evil passes on. What he did has nothing to do with me'

According to Philippe, his father had an unhappy childhood; his grandfather often beat him, partly for being illegitimate. But he claims Hitler became aware of his son and made plans to look after him. At the age of eight, after his grandmother died, Jean-Marie was adopted by a local wealthy family called the Frizons, who were devout Catholics.

Philippe says: ‘This adoption was arranged by a local nun called Sister Theodosie, who knew Hitler. Apparently, she did this at Hitler’s request.’ According to Jean-Marie’s autobiography, Sister Marie Theodosie was a German nun who ran a clinic in St Quentin where Charlotte gave birth.

It is not known how Sister Theodosie knew Hitler but shortly after the Frizons took Jean-Marie in, the head of the family, Fernand Frizon, visited Frankfurt where he somehow managed to become the owner of a large building without paying any money for it. A year later, Mr Frizon sold the building and used the money to pay for Jean-Marie’s education.

Although Charlotte gave up her son for adoption, Philippe says they were reunited in Paris during the occupation of France, which began in May 1940. He also says German officers tracked her down to her address in Paris and used to hand her money.

Philippe says: ‘My father was re-acquainted with his mother by German officers during the Occupation. He even spent a week living with her at her apartment. That’s when she told him his father was Hitler, not on her death-bed as some have reported.

‘My father told me he heard from his mother how German soldiers used to bring her money on a regular basis. It didn’t help her to become rich, but she lived on it.’


The birth certificate of Jean-Marie , the alleged love child. He was born in 1918 in Seboncourt near St Quentin

Charlotte died in 1951 and Jean-Marie spent the next 20 years denying the secret she had left him with. In 1954 he divorced his wife Jacqueline, whom he had met in 1940. The couple had three children. Within months he married 19-year-old Muguette Dubecq, Philippe’s mother. The couple moved to Provins, a town west of Paris, where Jean-Marie worked in a glass manufacturing company. They would go on to have five daughters and two sons.

Philippe says: ‘Growing up I knew that my grandparents had died but I always thought they were French. I always thought that I was French. Every now and then at home, I would hear my father say how the Germans were far more disciplined than the French, but that was it.’

Philippe trained as a plumber and worked at a French air base, Cazaux, near Bordeaux, for 34 years. He and his wife Rosalyn had two sons and a daughter and he now has six grandchildren. Although he claims his children do not mind the connection to Hitler, they have not told their own children.

Philippe says: ‘They have not been told that their great-great-grandfather was Hitler. We don’t want them picked on at school. Some people find it difficult. My partner Veronique kept it a secret from her father for as long as he was alive, because he was born in 1938, and he grew up malnourished and was ill all his life as a result of the Second World War.

‘He would not have accepted her daughter’s partner being related to Hitler. Veronique’s mother now knows about me being Hitler’s grandson but does not accept it. She does not talk about it.’

Philippe does not believe in the concept of an evil gene and is not worried about the future of his children or his grandchildren. He says: ‘No, it has not had an effect on me. I don’t think evil passes on. Of course qualities from your parents pass on to you, but you build your own life and you make it what it is.

‘I’ve been a law-abiding French citizen all my life. I learned that from my family. I am not a bad person, and what he did had nothing to do with me. It was another time. We weren’t there when all this happened. Maybe the people around him manipulated him to do all the nasty things. Maybe he was not even aware that such nasty things were happening.
'I started to read Mein Kampf but gave up. It was too complicated'

‘What Hitler did to the Jews was wrong. But some of the things Hitler did were admirable – he brought Germany back from collapse after the Treaty of Versailles. He built the country up with roads and highways.’

Philippe says he is apolitical yet he clearly retains a fascination with Hitler and the Nazis. He says: ‘I read Mein Kampf but gave up after a few pages. It was too complicated. But on its philosophy, I don’t agree.

‘When we were growing up, we never discussed politics in our house. I’ve always voted but I won’t say who I vote for. I would now say that my politics is slightly right of centre, but not extreme right.’

After his father died in 1985, Philippe travelled to Munich and met the daughter of Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS who co-ordinated the extermination of the Jews. He will not name the daughter but it is believed to be Gudrun Burwitz, now 81.

He says: ‘She believed I was Hitler’s grandson, because she had heard of him having a French son living in France from her own circle. This means that his inner circle knew about him having a secret son.’

Philippe also claims he met one of Hitler’s mistresses on the same trip. Historians have always believed the Fuhrer had only two mistresses, Eva Braun and Geli Raubal. Raubal died in 1931 and Braun died with Hitler in his bunker at the end of the war.

If Philippe is correct it means there was a third mistress whom no one knew about and who lived at least until the mid Eighties. Philippe says they met in Berchtesgaden, 100 miles south-east of Munich, and were introduced through Himmler’s daughter.

He says: ‘Historians are wrong, they don’t know everything. Hitler had more than two mistresses. The woman I met was Hitler’s mistress. I won’t name her as she has left behind a son, not Hitler’s, but for his sake I won’t identify her. But she told me that Hitler was a gentle lover and a good lover, just like my grandmother said.’

It is a strange way to talk about the man who perpetrated such evil, but Philippe says: ‘My father did not need to defend him. He was proud of being Hitler’s son.’

A pride, it would seem, shared by Philippe, despite his claims to the contrary.
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A photo on mega-billionaire Bill Gates' scientific quest to molecularly recycle toilet water for Africans which the Daily Mail published two days ago, a gookess--which I guess they think is 'attractive'--on the pot. The Daily Mail is an odd newspaper.
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Well, after a ceasefire over the Easter weekend, it's back on.
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They DIDN'T escape to victory: New film tells story of notorious 1942 'Death Match' when Nazis slaughtered Ukrainian football team who beat them

Fears movie could spark trouble between German and Ukrainian fans at Euro 2012

Ukraine is to host several games played by German's national team

Football players reportedly executed after beating German team in 1942






Ukrainian officials fear that a film called The Match, in which courageous Ukrainian players oppose German-speaking Nazi athletes against a backdrop of giant swastikas, may stoke anti-German feeling ahead of the Euro 2012 football tournament.

Regulators say the film could incite aggressive fans just weeks before Ukraine hosts several games played by Germany's national team during the 2012 European Championship from June 8-July 1.

'There always are people - hooligans - who use football to spill out their aggression and some of those people may be influenced by (the film),' said political analyst Volodymyr Fesenko.
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I have serious doubts that Dolf would of poked the first one...


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Apocalypse now? German drops Mayan magical skull owned by Himmler... and it could mark the end of the world on 21-12-12



Heinrich Himmler, seen with his daughter Gudrun, once owned the Mayan rock skull


If the world ends on December 21, blame a German butterfingers who dropped a volcanic rock skull once owned by SS overlord Heinrich Himmler in his laboratory this week.

According to legend, the Mayan skull, which was stolen from Tibet by the Nazis and imbued for believers with magical powers to enable mankind to survive an apocalypse, fell and chipped during a photo shoot.

For some, this is a catastrophe that foretells the end of the world, but others advise us to keep calm and carry on.

'It was probably put down somewhere a bit wobbly,' an eyewitness told a German newspaper.

MANY CONVINCED THE END IS NIGH

Some interpretations of the ancient Mayan calendar point to December 21, 2012 as the end of the world.

Mexico's tourism agency expects to draw 52 million visitors this year to the five states richest in Mayan heritage to see sights such as the Pyramid of Kukulcan in Chichen Itza (pictured above).

Other theorists have found evidence of a 2012 apocalypse in the Bible or the prophesies of Nostradamus.

The hamlet of Bugarach, in the south of France, has attracted the attention of a government watchdog monitoring cults and suspicious spiritual activities.

Bugarach - and the rocky outcrop of Pic de Bugarach - have had an influx of New Age visitors who believe it is the only place in the world which will survive an apocalypse.

'Suddenly it crashed to the floor. A big piece broke off the chin. It's really tragic.'

Thomas Ritter, an historian who owns the skull, said it was given to him by the family of a former British soldier present at the 1945 arrest of Himmler, who ran the Gestapo, the SS and the extermination programme which murdered six million Jews.

He added that he believed its accident wouldn't 'anger the Gods' and that the world will still be turning on December 22.

The skull is 1,000 years old and one of the legendary Mayan skulls that belonged to the lost, ancient race of Mexico, which were said to be infused with magical powers.

The 3lb skull is made of volcanic rock and, according to Ritter, was seized by SS men sent on an expedition to Tibet between 1937 and 1939 to look for the lost city of Shangri-La.

Ritter said: 'The Nazis were convinced that 13 such skulls existed and that whoever owned them would have control of the world.'

Himmler died on May 23, 1945 using a poison capsule hidden in his mouth to take his life.

The Mayans shaped 13 skulls, of which nine were coloured and represented the races of men and four were as clear as glass to represent 'the beasts that walk, crawl, slide and fly'.

They were sent to their places of 'birth' until such time when all were needed to avert the catastrophe man would wreak on the planet.

The Mayans, gifted astronomers and mathematicians, calculated a date for this 'end of days' - the winter solstice, December 21, 2012.

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The BBC does BS stories like these all the time too. Never ends does it lads?
 
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Hebrew graffiti thanking Adolf Hitler and denouncing Zionism have been sprayed inside Israel's own Holocaust museum in Jerusalem.

One giant slogan at the Yad Vashem museum in Jerusalem read: 'Thank you Hitler for your wonderful Holocaust that you arranged for us, it's only because of you that we got a state at the UN.'

It was sprayed across walls in Warsaw Ghetto Square near to a sculpture depicting the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, in which 13,000 were killed in the first uprising in Nazi occupied Europe.


Desecrated: Matityahu Drobles, a Holocaust survivor and former Israeli MP, looks at graffiti sprayed on the Yad Vashem memorial. It reads, 'an alternative holocaust memorial to the selective Yad Vashem should be built'



Slogans sprayed on the red-brick Wall of Remembrance in Warsaw Ghetto Square: One reads: 'The Zionist leadership wanted the Holocaust'. The other says: 'If Hitler hadn't existed, the Zionists would have invented him'

More graffiti was sprayed next to the cattle car memorial, which remembers how millions of Jews were transported from all over Europe to the Nazi death camps.





Another said: 'The war of the Zionist regime is not the war of the Jewish people.'

That slogan fuelled suspicion that a small fringe of ultra-Orthodox Jews, who are virulently opposed to the state of Israel, were to blame.

The red, white and black graffiti was written in both formal Hebrew characters as well as in hand-written script and signed: 'The global cynical mafia.'



Investigation: Israeli policemen inspect the anti-Zionist Hebrew graffiti. A police spokesman said it was not clear who was responsible, whether it was 'youngsters, vandals or people acting from other motives'


Workers clean off graffiti: Hebrew (partially shown) reads 'The wars of the Zionist regime are not the wars of the Jewish people'



Clean up job: A worker begins scrubbing off graffiti which reads: 'The Zionist leadership wanted the Holocaust'

Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld confirmed basic details of the incident, and said an investigation had been opened.

He said it was not clear who was responsible, whether it was 'youngsters, vandals or people acting from other motives.'

Yad Vashem is the main museum in Israel commemorating the six million Jews who were killed by the Nazi regime during the Second World War.
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An increasing number of Holocaust survivors are only now suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder decades after the horrors of the Nazi death camps.

Most patients with PTSD, such soldiers returning from conflict, develop symptoms within six months of a traumatic event.

But in the cases of those incarcerated or fleeing Hitler during World War Two, the incubation period is proving to be many years longer.


Holocaust researchers say the problem is coming to the fore partly because few survivors sought psychiatric help soon after the event.

What is less clear, however, is why they may be showing signs of the illness only now in old age.


While some did suffer early on, experts believe others appeared highly resilient as they set their minds on work, family and a new life, and it is not yet fully understood whether the symptoms are completely new or aggravated forms of a long-suppressed condition.

Sonia Reich was first hunted by the Nazis as an 11-year-old orphan seeking shelter in the Polish countryside.

Like many in her position, she was not offered therapy, but went on to spend 50 years as a suburban mother and wife in Chicago, Illinois, apparently without any symptoms.

Until one day, in her 60s, when her son Howard received a phone call.



'I received a call at midnight saying that my mother had run out of her house and been picked up by the Skokie police,' the Chicago arts critic told the Boston Globe.

Mrs Reich had been screaming that someone was trying to kill her.

After her husband died, her children began to notice some odd traits, such as sleeping with an axe under her pillow.

'We did not connect those behaviors with what she went through as a child in the Holocaust,' said Mr Reich, who consulted a geriatric mental health specialist and was told his mother had late-onset PTSD.

Mr Reich said: 'People say to me, "If only she'd talked about it, it would be much better." Well, that is not necessarily true.

'Some people's way of dealing with memory is to put it aside. And that enabled people like my mother to have a beautiful life in America.'




Prominent scholars have written about re-emerging trauma in elderly Holocaust survivors over the last few decades and one support group in Israel estimates that as many as 40 to 65 per cent fall into that category.

But many carers and nursing homes appear ill-equipped to deal with or are unaware of the condition.

And it is not just Holocaust survivors, but servicemen and women who witnessed the horrors of war that have been found to suffer delayed onset PTSD a long time after the event.
WHAT CAUSES PTSD?

PTSD is a reaction to a traumatic event where we can see that we are in danger, our life is threatened, or where we see other people dying or being injured in circumstances out of our control.

Many victims of serious accidents, military combat, terrorist attacks, disasters and life-threatening illnesses have been diagnosed with suffering from PTSD.

The symptoms of PTSD can start immediately or after a delay of weeks or months following the event. But in some cases it can even be years or decades before symptoms emerge.

People with PTSD suffer from depression, anxiety, feelings of guilt, flashbacks and nightmares, feeling numb and withdrawn, hyper alertness, and physical symptoms caused by stress.

There are many different forms of treatment and people suffering with the symptoms of PTSD are advised to see their GP.

Professor at Anglia Ruskin University Jamie Hacker Hughes, who specialises in traumatology and veteran mental health, said it is not that unusual for patients who suffered trauma during World War II to suffer PTSD many years afterwards.

He said: 'A lot of research has been carried out into the delayed onset of PTSD and it has become quite well known for symptoms to occur many, many years after the event for Holocaust survivors and other survivors of World War II.

'When we talk about trauma that occurred during war time Britain, there are huge cultural differences between then and now in how people express their emotions.

'In war time Britain people spoke of 'keeping a stiff upper lip' and were encouraged not to express their feelings ot talk about their emotions whereas now it's the opposite.

'People are now encouraged to talk about it and to ask for help if they need it.

'I have treated several military veterans for delayed onset PTSD. One patient was in the a Royal Air force during the Blitz but wasn't referred to see me for another 50 years until the mid-1990s.

'The symptoms of PTSD can sometimes be hard for the patients to recognise because the trauma causing it happened so long ago.

'It may be bad dreams, nightmares, increased response or hyper vigilance that they just shrug off or put down to something else.

'But it's very treatable and I would urge anyone suffering with the symptoms of PTSD to go to see their GP and get a referral.'

Psychiatrists recommend anti-anxiety or anti-depressant medications as well as cognitive behavior therapy for severe forms, while others help elderly survivors record their Holocaust narrative in an attempt to gain control over their memory fragments.
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He caused a furore when he flashed a Nazi salute at a photocall to promote his hit show Law & Order.

But Richard Belzer has dismissed criticism of his actions, saying he is entitled to make the gesture as he is Jewish.

The 67-year-old stand-up comic and actor had been indulging in a discussion of Charlie Chaplin classic The Great Dictator, which inspired him to act out a scene at a TV festival in Monte Carlo today.


Causing a fuhrer: Richard Belzer could not believe it when he got criticised for giving a mock fascist salute in Monte Carlo today

He told TMZ: 'My grandfather represented Israel in the UN before it was made a nation.



'I'm a Jewish comedian, and there's this new thing out, it's called satire, irony and historical reference.

'To say that a Jew can't do that gesture as homage to Chaplin's masterpiece The Great Dictator is like Muslim extremists killing a cartoonist for disparaging Mohammed in his art.'
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There's been speculation that sometime in the 1940s, Holocaust survivor Riven Flamenbaum may have swapped a pack of smokes for a gold tablet no bigger than a Post-it note, which he kept until his death.

But however Flamenbaum got the priceless treasure, a New York court has ruled it belongs to a German museum and must be given back.

The Flamenbaum family intends to appeal the decision by the state appellate court in Brooklyn, a lawyer for the family said Friday.

'We're extremely disappointed,' said attorney Seth Presser. 'We believe it a terribly inequitable decision.'

The appeals court ruling issued earlier this week reversed a 2010 decision by a Nassau County Surrogate Court judge who found that the Vorderasiatisches Museum in Berlin had taken too long to claim an ancient artifact so rare that lawyers say it defies valuation.

The reversal was 'based on a simple proposition: Stolen stuff goes back,' Raymond Dowd, the museum's attorney, said Friday. 'This is a victory for all museums around the world.'



According to museum records and other documents, a team of German archaeologists discovered the tablet in 1913 in an area of Iraq that was part of Ottoman Empire. They say the piece — described as 'the equivalent of a modern-day construction document' — dates to the 13th Century.

The tablet was on display from 1934 until the start of World War II, when it was placed in storage. At the end of the war, it was discovered missing.

The museum director has testified that Russian troops looted the museum. And family folklore suggests that once Flamenbaum was liberated from Auschwitz, he ran into a Russian general who made the artifact-for-cigarettes trade, Presser said.

'But the point is, we don't know,' the lawyer said. 'The only man who knows what happened here is dead.'



What's certain is that Flamenbaum arrived in the United States in 1949 with the tablet among his few possessions. When he died on Long Island in 2003 at age 92, he left it to his three children.

With Flamenbaum's estate still in flux in 2006, the museum sued for return of the artifact, claiming theft. But the surrogate court rejected the claim, citing the museum's 'inexplicable failure' for decades to report the tablet as stolen or missing, even after it learned in 1954 that it was briefly in the hands of a New York dealer.

The appeals court disagreed, saying the museum 'established that it had legal title and superior right of the possession to the tablet.'

The tablet will remain in a safe-deposit box until the legal battle is resolved.
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Adolf Hitler's Olympic Village of 1936: Can this decaying relic ever escape the ghosts of its past?

(my edit: not as long as the Daily Mail can manage to keep dragging it up every weekend....)


It was home to Jesse Owens when he faced the Nazis at Berlin 1936, before it became a torture base for the KGB



Athletes from all over the world headed 76 years ago to take part in the most infamous Olympic Games in history - the so-called 'Nazi Games' (pictured Adolf Hitler greeting them)

A bas-relief of marching Nazi troops, a Red Army mural – and a cellar where the anguished cries of condemned torture victims once rang out in the night.

If walls could speak, those within the Olympic Village of 1936 would have a host of dark tales to tell.

This is where athletes from all over the world headed 76 years ago to take part in the most infamous Olympic Games in history – the so-called ‘Nazi Games’.

The 1936 Olympic Village, on the western edge of Berlin, lies forlorn and forgotten.

‘It is a shame,’ says Sven Voege, who’s currently in negotiations to rent out some of the village sites as exhibition rooms.



The gym, with the Olympic rings and a vaulting horse used by German triple gold medallist Alfred Schwarzmann. Located on the western edge of Berlin, it lies forlorn and forgotten

‘But because it is inextricably bound up with Nazism, most Germans avoid it. It is a place that lives and breathes sportsmanship and history, side by side.

'But German history is something we shun because of our past.’

Around 4,000 athletes – including Great Britain’s 208-strong squad – took part in the Games in the summer of 1936.

Adolf Hitler looked on with delight as his German ‘supermen’ lived up to his dreams of glory, winning the Games with a medal count of nearly 90; Great Britain came tenth with just 14.

The only real slap in the face for the Führer was the success of America’s black track-and-field athlete Jesse Owens.

He won four gold medals and was the star of the Games in the world’s eyes – even if Hitler regarded him as inferior because of his colour.



The swimming pool, viewed from the diving board. Hopes of refurbishing the building, which served in WWII as a hospital for wounded German troops, have fallen through

Ironically, Owens’s tiny room – No 5, in block 39 – is the only athlete’s room that has been renovated.

It’s a simple space that reflects the modesty of the humble man who stayed there – a man who, paradoxically, enjoyed more freedom in Nazi Germany at that time that he did in his segregated U.S. homeland.

A short walk from Owens’s quarters lies the ‘Restaurant of the Nations’, the eating hall for the athletes.

The record books tell how in three weeks the participants consumed 100 cows, 91 pigs, over 650 lambs, 8,000lb of coffee, 150,000lb of vegetables and 160,000 pints of milk.


A bas-relief of marching German soldiers, which still stands near the theatre where athletes went to watch variety shows, hinted at Hitler's future military ambitions

‘The Führer was teetotal and the order for the athletes was no drinking,’ says Voege.

‘But the French and the Italians railed against the idea of no wine, while the Belgians and Dutch thought the prospect of no beer was too much to contemplate.

'All four nations were the exception and were served alcohol at every meal.’

Only the salon where the Italians dined alongside the Soviets is preserved. The room where the British ate is a shell filled with fallen masonry.

Hopes of refurbishing the building, which served in WWII as a hospital for wounded German troops, have fallen through.

In 1936 a huge steel-and-wood sign depicting the five Olympic rings stood on top of the Restaurant of the Nations.


The fencers practise in the Olympic Village. During their stay, there were constant reminders of the Nazi regime's less savoury side. Athletes were surrounded by officials in Nazi uniforms

That’s now propped up against a back wall, forgotten, in the off-limits gymnasium.

Outside the hall is the 400m loop, which is just as it was when Godfrey Brown, Godfrey Rampling, Freddie Wolff and Bill Roberts pounded it in practice before going on to win gold for the UK in the 4x400m relay race.

‘Children were allowed into the village, and the English runners were firm favourites with them because of their impeccable manners,’ says Voege.



Jesse Owens won four gold medals and was the star of the Games in the world's eye

‘They always stopped to say hello to the children and sign autographs.’

During their stay, there were constant reminders of the Nazi regime’s less savoury side.

Athletes were surrounded by officials in Nazi uniforms.

And a bas-relief of marching German soldiers, which still stands near the theatre where athletes went to watch variety shows, hinted at Hitler’s future military ambitions.

After the war ended in 1945, the Olympic Village was occupied for nearly 50 years by the Soviet Army.

Among the new tenants were the torturers of SMERSH and the KGB, interrogators who turned the subterranean rooms housing the swimming pool’s heating system into a theatre of pain and death.

The cremated remains of victims lie strewn over the site.

Meanwhile, mocking Hitler’s dreams of a ‘thousand-year Reich’, a painting was added of heroic Red Army soldiers doing battle with the Nazis in the ‘Great Patriotic War’, which claimed the lives of over 25 million Soviets.

Since the fall of communism, the Olympic Village has lain largely undisturbed, any hopes of restoring it scuppered by its Nazi past.

Hopefully a far happier future awaits the site of the London 2012 Olympics after the athletes have returned home.
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