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Old March 8th, 2013 #1
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Seven teenage thugs involved in a riot that forced a shut down at a young offenders institution could be in line for compensation - after a judge ruled the facility violated their human rights by banning them from the gym as punishment.

The seven, all serving sentences for serious crimes, were amongst a baying mob of 24 youths who invaded a football pitch at Ashfield Young Offenders Institution in February last year.

In terrifying scenes at the institution, near Bristol, the teenagers tore up astroturf and used parts of demolished goal posts as weapons to threaten staff.

A command centre had to be set up and the riot continued for about three hours before officers wearing full protective gear finally managed to quell the violence.

The group of seven, two of whom had to be physically restrained and held in a segregation unit after they refused to surrender, were stripped of various privileges for the part they played.


Their association with other prisoners was cut down for a few days, telephones and televisions were removed from their cells - and they were banned from using the gym for two weeks.

Yesterday, after an enormously costly four-day High Court hearing - all paid for by the public purse - Mrs Justice Nicola Davies ruled that correct disciplinary procedures had not been followed and the human rights of all seven had been breached.

Five of the thugs had had their freedom of association wrongly restricted for three days after the riot and all seven had been ‘unlawfully’ banned from using the gym, she ruled.

The seven, whose case was backed by the Howard League for Penal Reform, had also been denied a fair hearing before an independent adjudicator because relevant documents had not been handed to their lawyers in advance, the judge said.

The Director of the institution, which is operated by Serco Ltd under contract with the Ministry of Justice, had argued that restrictions on the seven’s privileges and association rights were entirely reasonable given their role in a 'concerted act of indiscipline'.

The temporary suspension of the seven’s gym privileges was ‘proportionate and reasonable’, particularly as the violence had occurred in the context of physical education.

But the judge ruled the treatment of young people in custody had to be rigorously scrutinised and prison rules laying down strict disciplinary procedures were there to be followed.

The ruling opens the way for the seven, all now adults, to seek compensation for their unlawful treatment.

The sums due to them will be assessed by a judge at a later date, unless settlement terms are agreed before then.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...an-rights.html

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Yet another reason to Bring Back The Borstals
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not sure what "The Borstals" are but it doesn't sound good. yikes!
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not sure what "The Borstals" are but it doesn't sound good. yikes!
Borstals were a complete waste of time, an inaccurate feature film was made of it entitled Scum it was a bourgeois leftists perverted view of what went on in such places.The reality of it was if you were half sensible you could get O levels in weeks and when it got violent they just shipped you out to an adult prisoner.A better reference for it is the book Borstal Boy by IRA bomber Brendan Behan.Behan was surprised to find he had far more in common with the English lads he met in Borstal than differences
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not sure what "The Borstals" are but it doesn't sound good. yikes!
Borstals Were establishments where young miscreants were taught to respect their elders and betters. They were rushed around from 'arsehole to breakfast time' performing tasks which taught them some discipline

I'm sure a few weeks in a Borstal would have done you - and many forum members a lot of good - the short sharp shock
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Borstals Were establishments where young miscreants were taught to respect their elders and betters. They were rushed around from 'arsehole to breakfast time' performing tasks which taught them some discipline

I'm sure a few weeks in a Borstal would have done you - and many forum members a lot of good - the short sharp shock
Back in 1977 when I was 17 I did 6 months at North Sea Camp and I think it did me good.

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At first glance, the pictures seem to show a group of keen young men enthusiastically taking part in a series of innocent, if somewhat old-fashioned, pastimes.

However, these extraordinary photographs actually depict daily life at Lowdham Grange, North Sea Camp and Rochester Borstals for boys in 1937.
The images, released to the Mail by the National Archives, show that life for young offenders nearly 80 years ago was a mixture of very hard work, intensive training, rehabilitation and self-improvement, with a dollop of fun thrown in for good measure.











Borstals were more about training, correction and developing employability, and less about punishment. For many boys, there was more on offer than at home — three square meals a day and physical, mental and religious discipline. Upon their release, they were given help with lodgings, jobs and funding, and reoffending rates were low,

It wasn’t just boys. Girls (housed in separate all-women Borstals) were taught to cook, sew, iron and clean, and learned basic farming skills, flower arranging and nursing. They let off steam with netball matches, group exercise classes, dancing and ping-pong.

Borstal training was not an unqualified success. Bullying among the boys was rife. Housemasters at Rochester Borstal were constantly combing the local Medway valley for absconders — in the early 1940s there were more than 100 escapees a year.

Which is little surprise, because although many of the youths had committed only lesser offences — petty theft, minor assault — and ‘training sentences’ were indeterminate, stretching anything up to five years, until they were deemed ‘corrected’. But most youths did emerge fit, able and, thanks to the skills training, ready and eager to work.

The abolition of borstals in 1983 by Margaret Thatcher’s government left a black hole in the youth justice system.

Many people (including London Mayor Boris Johnson) consider the unique combination of hard work, self-improvement and rigid discipline was far more effective than the young offender institutions that replaced them, and which seem to offer a daily diet of snooker and television shows on wide-screen plasma TVs.

Of the young rioters arrested last year, more than three-quarters were re-offenders whose incarceration apparently had little effect. It would be interesting to know how many of them are able to bake bread, milk a cow, build a wall or, indeed, whistle a tune from the Mikado.

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Young offender institutions or whatever they're called these days are a joke. They spend more time bickering over whose turn it is to play on the PS3 than they spend on any significant behaviour programmes or learning programmes or anything that would benefit them, and, by extension, society as a whole then they are released.
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HMP NORTH SEA CAMP.

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A mid 20th century borstal and later juvenile prison, used as a World War II military camp.

Major William W Llewellin led a group of about twenty young offenders from Stafford prison on a march to the Lincolnshire coast south-east of Boston on 23rd May 1935.

They arrived at the mouth of the river Witham, south of Freiston, on 31st May.

The boys lived in tents while they built new hutted accommodation for the borstal.

The inmates also commenced the reclamation of the Freiston and Butterwick outmarshes.

The site was a military camp during World War II and pill boxes and gun emplacements survive.

North Sea Camp remained a borstal until 1964 when it became an open detention centre for senior boys.

In September 1987 the detention centre closed and the prison reopened in July 1988 as an open prison for adult males.

By 1985 over 28 miles of dykes had been constructed and over 1000 acres of saltmarsh had been reclaimed for farmland.

It is used both as pasture for 3000 sheep and 2000 pigs, and as arable land for vegetables and some grain.

The original buildings were constructed of corrugated concrete and asbestos sheets.

The gymnasium is a brick building of the mid 20th century.

A chapel was built in 1954, constructed of concrete piers and brick panels with concrete trusses bolted to the piers.

The main buildings of the prison are situated to the west side of the Roman Bank, the existing sea bank.

East of the bank are farms and gardens, including green houses, a piggery barns and stores.
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Three lads at my comprehensive were sent to a borstal also in 1977. They broke into the local off licence and nicked a crate of sherry - a police dog tracked them to a field where they were lying asleep after consuming several bottles of the sherry
When they returned they had lost much of their bravado, but it didn't work for one of the lads a couple of years back I read in the newspaper that he had been jailed for dealing ecstasy.
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