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Old September 8th, 2006 #1
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Default Sons of Confederate Veterans denounce the KKK's use of the Confederate Battle Flag

The Sons of Confederate Veterans have issued two resolutions denouncing the Klan's use of the Confederate Flag. One of these stems from the fact that the KKK has exercised their First Amendment Right to demonstrate on battlefields like Antietam and Gettysburg. I do not know how to attach the files of these resolutions, but rest assured they are deplorable, vile documents. I did fire off E-mails to several of those cowards, most notably to the Commander-in-Chief of the national office, as well as the Adjutant-in-Chief and Historian-in-Chief. I also E-mailed the new commander of the Army of Northern Virginia, as I could not find former ANV commander Henry Kidd's E-mail (the perpetrator of one of the resolutions). I do not expect a reply.

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I have read two resolutions that were issued by the SCV condemning the Ku Klux Klan's use of the Confederate Battle Flag. The resolutions also condemn any other "hate group" using the Confederate Battle Flag. I will deal specifically with the Klan's use of the flag.

These resolutions that condemn the Klan's use of the Confederate Battle Flag as inappropriate are loaded with ignorance and lies. The first and biggest lie is that the Klan has no claim to the Confederate Flag. WRONG. The Ku Klux Klan was formed by SIX FORMER CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS ON DECEMBER 24, 1865. If anyone has a claim and a right to the Confederate Battle Flag and indeed any Confederate Flag, it is the Ku Klux Klan. It is the Sons of Confederate Veterans who are misappropriating, misusing and degrading these noble flags by smearing the good name of those White Southern descendants of Confederate soldiers that fought to protect the White South during and after the War of the Rebellion. If it were not for the Ku Klux Klan, the White South would have been destroyed by yankee carpetbaggers hell-bent on forcing newly freed negro slaves on White Southern men, women and children, the same way the federal government forces nonwhites of every shade down the throats of Southern Whites today.

The second lie is that the Ku Klux Klan is un-American. The Ku Klux Klan's only official flag is the United States Flag. The Klan has and always will be pro-America and pro-American. Perhaps the most famous picture of any Klan march is one in Washington, DC, where every one of the thousands of Klansmen are carrying a United States flag. Many Klans do use the Confederate Battle Flag, especially in the South. However, the use of the Confederate Battle Flag by the Klan was not widespread until the late 50's and early 60's, when the federal government began their destructive program of forced integration, allowing negroes and other nonwhites to prey upon the White South.

The third lie is that the Klan desecrates the Confederate Battle Flag when they publicly display it at their rallies and demonstrations. On the contrary, it is the SCV that desecrates the flag when they spew their lies about the Confederacy and the South. While it is true that the Confederacy contained nonwhites of many races within its borders, no one questioned who ran the Confederacy, both politically and economically: White people. The Confederacy, like the Union, was built by and for White people. Even after the War of the Rebellion, after slavery was abolished, Whites, north and South, were still in control and ran the government and the economy. Negroes and other nonwhites knew their place. They were free, but they still worked for the White man. If anyone is seeking to clothe themselves in respectability, it is the SCV, whose ancestors are undoubtedly turning over in their graves every time you open your mouth. Who do you self-appointed do-gooders think you are and who do you think you are fooling? How dare you idiots profess to know any history when you do not even know your own!!! I, as a United States citizen and a proud White Southerner, denounce any and all resolutions that denounce the KKK's use of the Confederate Battle Flag. I also denounce the SCV's use of any Confederate Flag, whether it be a National, Battle or Naval flag. The SCV has shown its ignorance so many times that it is way past time for all true sons and daughters of the Confederate States of America to take our symbols from you ignorant morons and raise it high in the name of the White South and White Southern Solidarity!!!

Walter Ring
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Old September 8th, 2006 #2
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Good letter Walter! I'm ashamed of the day I joined the SCV, my 6 years of service to that group was a total waste. The Ku Klux Klan is the only true heir to the Confederate flag, not the race mixing scum of the SCV.

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Old September 8th, 2006 #3
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Good letter Walter! I'm ashamed of the day I joined the SCV, my 5 years of service to that group was a total waste. The Ku Klux Klan is the only true heir to the Confederate flag, not the race mixing scum of the SCV.
More attacks on our history, by folks that ought to know better. It is very sad to witness.
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Old September 8th, 2006 #4
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More attacks on our history, by folks that ought to know better. It is very sad to witness.
I had a friend who was a member of the SCV. He is quite a lemming but I paid close attention to what he said goes on inside the SCV. They actively seek out negro members, and once those negroes join the organization they are literally treated like royalty. The SCV has totally sold out to the Jews.
 
Old September 9th, 2006 #5
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As I sit here at my computer, I am looking up at the photograph of my Confederate grandfather. Next to him is a photograph of my wife's Confederate grandfather. As I look into the eyes of each, I am reminded that both of them were members of the first of the Klan Klaverns during Reconstruction in their respective areas. If anyone deserved to carry the Confederate Battle Flag after The War, for any reason, it was them. They both fought the yankee invaders. They both fought the Freedman's Bureau. My Confederate grandfather fought in 38 battles, large and small during The War. His unit, the 12th Ga. Inf., Co. C, The Davis Rifles, formed in June 1861, and stood with the Confederacy throughout. He, and his unit, only furled their flags when Lee did.

I have been an SCV member since I can remember. I have been a Camp Adjutant, a Camp Lt. Commander, and a Camp Commander, and that for over four years. My father is an SCV member, as is several of my cousins.

In spite of all that, from the bottom of my heart, I here declare that the Sons Of Confederate Veterans can go to hell.

The SCV seems to have an absolute mania for drafting nigger members and when they get the, yes, they suck their ass. Here in Florida, they have a campaign for a Southern heritage license plate. To aid them in their efforts, the Florida SCV is having a nigger, H.K. Edgerton carry my goddamn flag across the state.

I don't need a fucking nigger to carry my goddamn flag for me.

I am done with the SCV.
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Old September 9th, 2006 #6
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Great letter. Those limp-dick "Heritage - Not Hate!" sacks of shit are enough to make any real Southerner puke. The only "heritage" the Confederates wanted their descendants to honor was that of White control of America: they'd horsewhip these flag-wavin' fags and spit on their pointless efforts to protect symbols the true meaning of which they've already gutted.
 
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N.B. Forrest and other poster's have hit the nail on the head about the SCV.

N.B.Forrest is so right about the SVC, what are they perserving? It is not courage for sure.


Some White men, you just can't waste you time trying to get through to, it won't ever happen, and they trully think they are awake.

Still the good news is that more White men are waking up every day!
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I agree with and appauld Walter's letter. As a former SCV member it sickens me to see what that group has become. First, they paraded around their black trophy members (along with non-SCV member, lifetime NAACP member H. K. Edgerton aka America's funniest negro). Then they crowed about their spic and wagonburner members. Next we'll be hearing about "gay Confederates" no doubt. There actually was a LTE about that subject printed in the SCV's magazine.

I've got a message for the SCV, we will not seek nor ask your permission to fly the sacred banner of our ancestors. Furthermore, they can go to straight to Hell.

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The Sons of Confederate Veterans have issued two resolutions denouncing the Klan's use of the Confederate Flag.
Would anyone here mind if I politely told The Sons of Confederate Veterans to go fuck themselves?
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Would anyone here mind if I politely told The Sons of Confederate Veterans to go fuck themselves?
Not at all. Feel free to be impolite to those pompous asses.
 
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That's one hell of a letter. As a Southern girl myself, I offer my congrats for a job superbly done!!!
 
Old September 9th, 2006 #12
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The "Sons of Confederate Veterans" are a damn shame for their forefathers
 
Old September 9th, 2006 #13
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Default Thanks for your words of support

I am glad and grateful for the positive support. Thank you. There is an irony here that I will give SA Mann credit for pointing out: The SCV moans about the KKK using the Confederate Battle Flag, yet most of the members of the SCV shy away from displaying the Battle Flag themselves. These cowards use some lesser known Confederate Flag like the First National Confederate or the Bonnie Blue Flag so they can say they are flying the flag without upsetting the niggers. Not that there is anything wrong with the First National Confederate Flag (Stars and Bars) or the Bonnie Blue Flag, because there is not. These flags are White Southern symbols and should be flown. However, they should not be used as a 'less controversial' substitute for the Battle Flag. Eventually though, the SCV will probably find an excuse not to fly any Confederate Flag due to them being 'insensitive' to their pet nonwhite members. Then I guess they will fly the UN or OAS flag.
 
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Two things occur:

Firstly, why did anyone believe that the SCV would push or promote a racially-aware agenda? Why join it or was this a so-called "entryist" effort? (Gosh us behaving like Trotskyists, what next?!! Tactical aware within the US movement. Wow.) Subsequent to that I suppose is that if you're happy with the Klan then why aren't you in it?!

Secondly, I have seen but don't entirely "get", these arguments suggesting that because on much literature and in other places the Klan groups (I know there are numerous factions) didn't use the Confederate flag and that they used the US "stars and stripes" flag instead. The argument put forward would be that the Klan was more successful outside the South, for example in the North East and Midwest.

I'm not saying I agree with this, just pointing it out. I do remember getting to hear about Rounder's efforts in the mid 1980s and he used the Confederate flag instead of the swastika and this worked for a time. Then of course you had the whites in Forsyth using the Confederate flag as a symbol of resistance to nigger trouble makers in the mid 1980s too. Seems obvious what it meant to them.

The one time I visited the South the Confederate flag was always to me a symbol of a proud white society and the evidence of a long-time resistance to forced integration. Certainly the left hate the Confederate flag.

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Two things occur:

Firstly, why did anyone believe that the SCV would push or promote a racially-aware agenda? Why join it or was this a so-called "entryist" effort? (Gosh us behaving like Trotskyists, what next?!! Tactical aware within the US movement. Wow.) Subsequent to that I suppose is that if you're happy with the Klan then why aren't you in it?!

Secondly, I have seen but don't entirely "get", these arguments suggesting that because on much literature and in other places the Klan groups (I know there are numerous factions) didn't use the Confederate flag and that they used the US "stars and stripes" flag instead. The argument put forward would be that the Klan was more successful outside the South, for example in the North East and Midwest.

I'm not saying I agree with this, just pointing it out. I do remember getting to hear about Rounder's efforts in the mid 1980s and he used the Confederate flag instead of the swastika and this worked for a time. Then of course you had the whites in Forsyth using the Confederate flag as a symbol of resistance to nigger trouble makers in the mid 1980s too. Seems obvious what it meant to them.

The one time I visited the South the Confederate flag was always to me a symbol of a proud white society and the evidence of a long-time resistance to forced integration. Certainly the left hate the Confederate flag.

Any comments?
The SCV acts like the ADL and enjoys suing courageous Whites. They employ an entire legal team that sues any White organization which displays the Confederate flag in public. This policy only began in the mid-90's.

They send SCV members to protest and scream at Klansmen or any other White Nationalist groups using the flag "unjustly" as they say. When I lived in Georgia I saw a video of one of these rallies on the local news and there were about a dozen SCV "loyalists" out there shouting at Klansmen with the words, "IT'S ABOUT HERITAGE!!! NOT HATE!!!! DAMNIT!!!!!!" It was so embarrassing because one of them was a White teenager who was maybe 19 and he had a thick southern accent, and I couldn't believe how odd this was that a White teenager claiming to have "heritage" would stand out there and scream at Klansmen for actually having the balls to defend the south against the real enemies.

For the record, my friend was/and probably still is/ a member of the Georgia SCV branch. I cut ties with that jerk because I told him that the SCV was employing Stalinist mind control tactics in the effort to defeat the Jewish media and that such efforts would ultimately fail miserably (which they have)

You wouldn't believe how far these SCV types will go to disprove the label of "racism" in the Confederacy. They like to share a story which sounds fake to me of General Lee praying with a bunch of negroes during the war and the other Confederate soldiers saw this and said, "If that is good enough for General Lee then it is good enough for me"

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Old September 10th, 2006 #16
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The SCV likes to tell these emotional stories like the one about Lee praying with a bunch of niggers, but fail to tell facts like Lee testifying before congressional committees about what negative effects niggers have on the standard of living of White people. These scalawags always maximize the exception out of proportion and minimize the rule as much as possible, quite similar to how the jewsmedia minimizes any White achievement (and we have a lot of that) and blows any miniscule nigger achievements to high heaven. Anyone being a member of the SCV desecrates the memory of their ancestors. Ron Doggett decided that his reputation suffered by being an SCV member and wisely dropped his membership, and I urge all racially conscious Whites that are members to do the same.
 
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You learn something new every day and I must confess I didn't realise quite how sick these SCV idiots actually are but it reminds me of a comment made on a recent Metzger hour where he said, "you'll have to fight about half the white race too in the coming conflict." Assuming whites have the brains to realise they're actually in a conflict already then it looks like Terrible Tom is right.

That 19-year-old teenager needs a serious talking too.

What a sad situation. And typically sick of today's white people....................
 
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The SCV. Just another in a long line of formerly White organizations, now infiltrated and co-opted by the jew.

The only way to stop jews from infiltrating an organization is to have a zero tolerance policy against them. Any serious pro-White organization should clearly state that jews will be killed if they attempt to take control and then summarily killed if they try.


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Here's something to mull over. Back in 1956 the state of Georgia changed their flag and incorporated the Confederate flag into it. At the time the Georgia legislature stated that it was to show their support of states righta and opposition to integration. In the eyes of the SCV wouldn't the state of Georgia be guilty of misusing the Confederate flag? Fast forward 50 years, the state of Georgia votes to remove the Confederate flag. Guess who has done some of the loudest protesting and carrying on about it? You guessed it the Sons of Confederate Veterans. Does anyone honestly think South Carolina or Alabama were celebrating just the Civil War centennial when they left Confederate flags flying for 40 plus years? If I'm not mistaken George Wallace ordered the flag flown upon becoming Governor in 1963.

Mind you I don't have a problem with how GA, AL & SC came to hoisted their Rebel flags. It gripes me that these "heritage not hate" morons try to gloss over history and make it up as they go.
 
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Hell of a letter IronGuard. I lived in South Carolina from 1995 through 2000 and spent many a weekend roaming through Alabama, Georgia, Florida, and North Carolina. This was right at the time of all the naacp attempts to have the Confederate Battle Flag lowered from of the S.C. state house and they began their boycott. There were alot of SCV members around that I knew, the majority of which were in their early 20's. It never ceased to amaze me that these guys could decorate their cars with symbols of Southern heritage but when they hopped in and started 'em up you'd here mostly rap music a-cranking. Just really depressing.

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