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Old May 8th, 2007 #1
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Eco-Extremist Wants World Population to Drop below 1 Billion
Sea Shepherd founder says mankind is a 'virus' and we need to 're-wild the planet.'

By Dan Gainor
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5/6/2007 7:41:33 PM




Apparently, saving the whales is more important than saving 5.5 billion people. Paul Watson, founder and president of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and famous for militant intervention to stop whalers, now warns mankind is “acting like a virus” and is harming Mother Earth.



Watson’s May 4 editorial asked the question “The Beginning of the End for Life as We Know it on Planet Earth?” Then he left no doubt about the answer. “We are killing our host the planet Earth,” he claimed and called for a population drop to less than 1 billion.



The commentary reminded readers that Watson had called humans a disease before and he wasn’t sorry. “I was once severely criticized for describing human beings as being the ‘AIDS of the Earth.’ I make no apologies for that statement,” the column continued.



Watson was invoking the worst of Robert Malthus, an English political economist who claimed that mankind was overpopulating the earth. That claimed first appeared in the late 1700s. Watson urged some solutions for mankind as part of a process to “need to re-wild the planet”:



· “No human community should be larger than 20,000 people and separated from other communities by wilderness areas.” New York, London, Paris, Moscow are all too big. Then again, so are Moose Jaw, Timbuktu and even Annapolis, Md.

· “We need vast areas of the planet where humans do not live at all and where other species are free to evolve without human interference.”

· “We need to radically and intelligently reduce human populations to fewer than one billion.”

· “Sea transportation should be by sail. The big clippers were the finest ships ever built and sufficient to our needs. Air transportation should be by solar powered blimps when air transportation is necessary.”

· At least Watson was generous and said people could still talk with one another across great distances. “Communication systems can link the communities,” he proclaimed from on high.



The Watson rant kept on going calling for everything from cutting down on the population of domesticated dogs and cats to cutting down on everything else in what he called “simplify, simplify, simplify.”



Watson essentially called for humans to return to primitive lifestyles. “We need to stop flying, stop driving cars, and jetting around on marine recreational vehicles. The Mennonites survive without cars and so can the rest of us.”

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Old May 8th, 2007 #2
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He's funny. But when you look at who's overpopulating the planet, you have to admit he has a point.
 
Old May 8th, 2007 #3
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He looks like a middle-aged faggot with saggy tits.

But seriously, what he means to say is he wants less than a billion shitskins. Whites, if you recall, "produce too much Carbon Dioxoide".
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He does have a point, although I wouldn't say that I completely agree with him.
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I find when I mention we need to dramatically reduce 'third world' population growth by whatever means neccessary left wing environmental one race types agree with me.

For them imo motives matter more then actions. For example if you were reducing third world population to stop non-whites from overwhelming white people demographically they would be fully against it. But support the same radical plans, instead to save the environment of the earth and they are for it.

I live in a very liberal city so most people I know are hardcore left wingers. But its surprising what they will support if you simply phrase things the right way. Another example is eugenics.. largely they support it if you phrase it the right way. I say there are people who really need our help, and its not fair life dealt them a bad hand. But in exchange for our help we should demand they have their tubes tied, or a vasectomy if male.. so that we don't 'overpopulate' our cities with kids they can't take care of.

See what I'm saying if you highlight the goal of preventing suffering in our plans they like it, even very radical ideas. In their heart they like those radical interventionist ideas btw. However if you phrase it in an aggressive way, and talking about how we will have a master race, superiority over other peoples things like that.. they are offended.
 
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I find when I mention we need to dramatically reduce 'third world' population growth by whatever means neccessary left wing environmental one race types agree with me.

For them imo motives matter more then actions. For example if you were reducing third world population to stop non-whites from overwhelming white people demographically they would be fully against it. But support the same radical plans, instead to save the environment of the earth and they are for it.

I live in a very liberal city so most people I know are hardcore left wingers. But its surprising what they will support if you simply phrase things the right way. Another example is eugenics.. largely they support it if you phrase it the right way. I say there are people who really need our help, and its not fair life dealt them a bad hand. But in exchange for our help we should demand they have their tubes tied, or a vasectomy if male.. so that we don't 'overpopulate' our cities with kids they can't take care of.

See what I'm saying if you highlight the goal of preventing suffering in our plans they like it, even very radical ideas. In their heart they like those radical interventionist ideas btw. However if you phrase it in an aggressive way, and talking about how we will have a master race, superiority over other peoples things like that.. they are offended.
It's funny you mention that. Some leftists who are more deeply burrowed into Establishment Multiculturalism will catch that you are talking in code, and probably get real aggressive because they think you don't know you are talking in "racist codespeak," and try to break you of it. When they do this, it's kind oif funny, because then you just pretend to be another ignorant citizen, but you say, "But these third worlders don't contribute much to civilization," and then you talk about average IQ of races, etc., and watch 'em go more and more nuts until they figure out you're a hard core WN and you were playing them. I've done this, it's hilarious.

But if it's a leftist who actually works for a living and is not inducted into the higher arcana of leftism, he or she might not recognize codespeak.
 
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If western nations just stopped sending aid to the third world, the overpopulation problem would go away overnight as they kill each other off over the last pair of air jordans. Without fuzzy headed missionaries providing western medicine, Africa would be a safari park.
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It's funny you mention that. Some leftists who are more deeply burrowed into Establishment Multiculturalism will catch that you are talking in code, and probably get real aggressive because they think you don't know you are talking in "racist codespeak," and try to break you of it. When they do this, it's kind oif funny, because then you just pretend to be another ignorant citizen, but you say, "But these third worlders don't contribute much to civilization," and then you talk about average IQ of races, etc., and watch 'em go more and more nuts until they figure out you're a hard core WN and you were playing them. I've done this, it's hilarious.
Kievsky, you and I were just talking about this (sort of) -- and I know just what you mean. A real IP member, like, say, a clever tenured mischling political science professor, will shut down a conversation at the first sign of trouble, or head it in another direction.
 
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These people are the most arrogant pieces of shit on the planet! Always calling for someone "else" to cut the population, etc. like they are the goddam saviors and "guides" to everyone else. Why don't these self-proclaimed eco and population watchdogs start the "re-wilding" by filling up a bathtub with hot water, picking up a nice sharp razor blade and get to work....on themselves first. PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS!
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Nature has a fail-safe method that whites have tampered with. A white family can produce enough food to feed hundreds or even thousands of white families in the way of livestock, grain, fruit and vegetables. Non-white families can barely produce enough to feed themselves scrounging off the land and never planting grain or producing livestock. So the death rate for babies is 9 out of 10, therefore they can produce many children. Enter white medicine meant for white people who produce 3 children or less (for the most part), now the non-white death rate for babies is 1 out of 10, and there is a population explosion.

In Africa they kill several million at a time then drag the dead bodies to white people begging for help. All the while there are plans (as we speak) for a massive race war killing the white population of Africa.

In Los Angeles they burn all the advantages western living has brought them then get on CNN and look for white people to rebuild what they have destroyed.

In New Orleans they sit around while their town is flooded doing nothing to prevent this, then refuse white money. After they have exhausted and looted the white population the leader gets on CNN and begs white people for 50 billion dollars to rebuild a black city with no whites.

Muds get obliterated by tsunamis, instead of moving they allow this to happen again. White celebrities beg for money to rebuild, white people send billions of dollars in aid so this can happen again.

When unavoidable tornados ravage white towns all the money has been spent no aid is available and the white people get nothing.

The North West is ravaged by blizzards with no electricity and roads closed to prevent further supplies from coming in what do the white people do? They were prepared and rebuild on their own.



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The people calling for population reduction are not entirely wrong - the modern human is consuming resources far faster than we can replace them and wreaking havoc on the natural environment.

Now, I do think that goals of humanism and environmentalism are contradictory. I'm only for environmentalism, and for it in the context of a sustainable and healthy White society. Most of the muds cannot exist without us, so as others have suggested, just free ourselves of any obligations to them. War, famine, and poverty will reduce Africa and other places to self-sustainability at much saner levels of population.

However - I do think that modern whites are quite degenerate and judafied. Are the people of VNN Forum ready to accept a policy of race & environment first over individual luxury and consumerism much like Adolf Hitler was? I see a lot of misguided opposition to this idea here - opposition that seems to come from the erroneous idea that such things are "Jewish" when they are quite the opposite.

Quite frankly, the modern white society needs almost as much purging as the mud societies do.
 
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I could see 1b WHITE people doing quite well on this planet. Even less would be fine with me provided all the people were White.
 
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It's funny you mention that. Some leftists who are more deeply burrowed into Establishment Multiculturalism will catch that you are talking in code, and probably get real aggressive because they think you don't know you are talking in "racist codespeak," and try to break you of it. When they do this, it's kind oif funny, because then you just pretend to be another ignorant citizen, but you say, "But these third worlders don't contribute much to civilization," and then you talk about average IQ of races, etc., and watch 'em go more and more nuts until they figure out you're a hard core WN and you were playing them. I've done this, it's hilarious.

But if it's a leftist who actually works for a living and is not inducted into the higher arcana of leftism, he or she might not recognize codespeak.
Kievsky, good post. I don't go too quickly into the hardline talk. First get them agreeing with the general goal.. the third world population explosion needs to be stopped for mother earth and for those people. Then get them to agree its wrong for a person to have so many children when they can't even feed themselves.

You are right about the higher arcana leftists. Like the professors at university who have done many years of reading and thinking and organizing that cygnet mentioned. They know the codespeak, because they speak it too. They might try to force you into a trap of looking racist, as a way to discredit you in front of the others.. or attempt to change the subject.
 
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Low birthrate in western countries,the Jews n capitalist are tapping third world surplus population to off-set the decline. Incidently, in Asia, africa , lands are overgrazed,therefore, clear more plants here to to accommodate them.

This is a loonie bin Jew world.
 
Old May 8th, 2007 #15
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"I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I've realized that you are not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment. But you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus.

Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague. And we are... the cure."

Maybe this guy is an Agent Smith fan?
 
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How many white people are on this planet? I would think slightly less than a billion. If you wanna just have that, that is more than fine with me!

Except of course I would still want great cities like Paris, and other European cities that our great Ancestors built.
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