White Man Kills 2 Mexican Burglars Despite Pleas From Lispy Law Enforcement Operator

[Jett Rink]

The 911 call came from a Pasadena, Tex., resident, who alerted police to two burglary suspects on a neighbor's property. Before he hung up, two men were dead by his hand.

Joe Horn, 61, told the dispatcher what he intended to do: Walk out his front door with a shotgun.

"I've got a shotgun," Horn said, according to a tape of the 911 call. "Do you want me to stop them?"

"Nope, don't do that - ain't no property worth shooting somebody over, OK?" the dispatcher responded.

"Hurry up man, catch these guys, will you? 'Cause I'm ain't gonna let 'em go, I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm not gonna let 'em go. I'm not gonna let 'em get away with this ----."

Shortly after, Horn said he sees one suspect was standing in front of his house, looking at it from the street.

"I don’t know if they’re armed or not. I know they got a crowbar 'cause that's what they broke the windows with. ... Man, this is scary, I can't believe this is happening in this neighborhood."

He gets more agitated. The dispatcher asks if he can see the suspects but they had retreated into the target's house, out of view: "I can go out the front [to look], but if I go out the front I'm bringing my shotgun with me, I swear to God. I am not gonna let 'em get away with this, I can't take a chance on getting killed over this, OK? I'm gonna shoot, I'm gonna shoot."

"Stay inside the house and don’t go out there, OK?" the dispatcher said. "I know you're pissed off, I know what you're feeling, but it's not worth shooting somebody over this, OK?"

"I don’t want to," Horn said, "but I mean if I go out there, you know, to see what the hell is going on, what choice am I gonna have?

"No, I don’t want you to go out there, I just asked if you could see anything out there."

The dispatcher asks if a vehicle could be seen; Horn said no. The dispatcher again says Horn should stay inside the house.

Almost five minutes into the call, police had not arrived.

"I can’t see if [the suspects are] getting away or not," Horn said.

Horn told the dispatcher that he doesn’t know the neighbors well, unlike those living on the other side of his home. "I can assure you if it had been their house, I would have already done something, because I know them very well," he said.
Dispatcher: "I want you to listen to me carefully, OK?"

Horn: "Yes?"

Dispatcher: "I got ultras coming out there. I don't want you to go outside that house. And I don't want you to have that gun in your hand when those officers are poking around out there."

Horn: "I understand that, OK, but I have a right to protect myself too, sir, and you understand that. And the laws have been changed in this country since September the First and you know it and I know it."

Dispatcher: "I understand."

Horn: "I have a right to protect myself ..."

Dispatcher: "I'm ..."

Horn: "And a shotgun is a legal weapon, it's not an illegal weapon."

Dispatcher: "No, it's not, I'm not saying that, I'm just not wanting you to ..."

Horn: "OK, he's coming out the window right now, I gotta go, buddy. I'm sorry, but he's coming out the window. "

Dispatcher: "No, don't, don't go out the door, Mister Horn. Mister Horn..."

Horn: "They just stole something, I'm going out to look for 'em, I'm sorry, I ain't letting them get away with this ----. They stole something, they got a bag of stuff. I'm doing it!"

Dispatcher: "Mister, do not go outside the house."

Horn: "I'm sorry, this ain't right, buddy."

Dispatcher: "You gonna get yourself shot if you go outside that house with a gun, I don't care what you think."

Horn: "You wanna make a bet?"

Dispatcher: "Stay in the house."

Horn: "There, one of them's getting away!

Dispatcher: "That's alright, property's not something worth killing someone over. OK? Don't go out the house, don't be shooting nobody. I know you're pissed and you're frustrated but don't do it."

Horn: "They got a bag of loot."

Dispatcher: "OK. How big is the bag?" He then talks off, relaying the information.

Dispatcher: "Which way are they going?"

Horn: "I can't ... I'm going outside. I'll find out."

Dispatcher: "I don't want you going outside, Mister..."

Horn: "Well, here it goes buddy, you hear the shotgun clicking and I'm going."

Dispatcher: "Don't go outside."
On the tape of the 911 call, the shotgun can be heard being cocked and Horn can be heard going outside and confronting someone.

"Boom! You're dead!" he shouts. A loud bang is heard, then a shotgun being cocked and fired again, and then again.

Then Horn is back on the phone:
"Get the law over here quick. I've now, get, one of them's in the front yard over there, he's down, he almost run down the street. I had no choice. They came in the front yard with me, man, I had no choice! ... Get somebody over here quick, man."

Dispatcher: "Mister Horn, are you out there right now?"

Horn: "No, I am inside the house, I went back in the house. Man, they come right in my yard, I didn't know what the --- they was gonna do, I shot 'em, OK?"

Dispatcher: "Did you shoot somebody?

Horn: "Yes, I did, the cops are here right now."

Dispatcher: "Where are you right now?"

Horn: "I'm inside the house. ..."

Dispatcher: "Mister Horn, put that gun down before you shoot an officer of mine. I've got several officers out there without uniforms on."

Horn: "I am in the front yard right now. I am ..."

Dispatcher: "Put that gun down! There's officers out there without uniforms on. Do not shoot anybody else, do you understand me? I've got police out there..."

Horn: "I understand, I understand. I am out in the front yard waving my hand right now."

Dispatcher: "You don't have a gun with you, do you?

Horn: "No, no, no."

Dispatcher: "You see a uniformed officer? Now lay down on the ground and don't do nothing else."

Yelling is heard.

Dispatcher: "Lay down on the ground, Mister Horn. Do what the officers tell you to do right now."
Two days later, Horn released a statement through an attorney.

“The events of that day will weigh heavily on me for the rest of my life," it said. "My thoughts go out to the loved ones of the deceased.”

The identities of the men killed were released Friday.

They are Miguel Antonio Dejesus, 38, and Diego Ortiz, 30. Official records show that each of them had a prior arrest in Harris County for drug offenses.

The men were reportedly shot at a distance of less than 15 feet.

A woman who lives nearby who asked not to be identified told CBS News affiliate KHOU correspondent Rucks Russell that she always saw Horn as a grandfather figure. "He is the guardian of the neighborhood," she said. "He takes care of all our kids. If we ever need anything, we call him.”

But according to Tom Lambright, Horn’s attorney and a friend for more than four decades, he’s the one in need now. “He just needs everyone to know he’s not a villain, he’s not a bad guy,” Lambright said.

He went on to say that Horn voluntarily gave an extensive video statement to police immediately following the shooting.

Horn was not taken into custody after the shooting. A Harris County grand jury will decide if charges are to be filed.

Lambright says Horn acted in complete and total self defense and has nothing to hide.

Local opinion has been passionate on both sides of the shooting.

One letter to the Houston Chronicle said, "He didn't shoot them in the legs, to make sure they did not run away, or hold them at gunpoint until police arrived. No, he was judge, jury and executioner."

Another letter writer praised Horn, saying, "Where does the line form to pin a medal on Joe Horn? I want to get in line." Another wrote, "Let's get rid of the police force and just hire Joe Horn!"

Support for Horn was also running about 2-1 in an online survey of readers on the KHOU Web site.

The incident may prove a test for a new law recently passed in Texas which expands the right of citizens to use deadly force.

Under Texas law, people may use deadly force to protect their own property or to stop arson, burglary, robbery, theft or criminal mischief at night.

But the legislator who authored the "castle doctrine" bill told the Chronicle it was never intended to apply to a neighbor's property, to prompt a "'Law West of the Pecos' mentality or action," said Republican Sen. Jeff Wentworth. "You're supposed to be able to defend your own home, your own family, in your house, your place of business or your motor vehicle."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n3517564.shtml

911 Call Audio Here: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=5538780

[TwistedCross]

If he were to move to Ca, or us to act like him, we would be in jail for murder 1 with hate crime.

[8Man]

One letter to the Houston Chronicle said, "He didn't shoot them in the legs, to make sure they did not run away, or hold them at gunpoint until police arrived.

Of course not, the cops don't do that either. They prefer headshots where possible. Ask Vicki Weaver.

Even though public sentiment is 2-1 in his favor, the local DA is going to put him on trial. Instead of raising money for bullets, he'll need funds for a good lawyer.

[Karl Lueger]

All thats necessary for bad-guys to triumph is for White men to do nothing. Good thing this was not such a case.

"..she always saw Horn as a grandfather figure. "He is the guardian of the neighborhood," she said. "He takes care of all our kids. If we ever need anything, we call him.”

Its called Love thy White neighbor.

[Stan Sikorski]

I wouldn't have wasted time on the phone with that 911 homo. The result would have been 2 dead beaners, much as his result, but with less whining and stress. Mexcrement is worth killing over property. They are no better than cockroaches. At least cockroaches are smart enough to stay out of the light.

[Jett Rink]

Did you guys listen to the audio, where he cocks the shotgun for the dispatcher?

These fucking LEO's are some pieces of work these days. From rugged Americans to European Socialists in less than 2 generations. Hard to believe.

[MikeTodd]

Originally Posted by Stan Sikorski

I wouldn't have wasted time on the phone with that 911 homo. The result would have been 2 dead beaners, much as his result, but with less whining and stress. Mexcrement is worth killing over property. They are no better than cockroaches. At least cockroaches are smart enough to stay out of the light.

I'd kill a messishit for stooping to steal a blade of grass out of my yard!

[Rex E. Cuto]

Good for him. Period.

Reminds me of a joke I heard once.

Grampa got ready to go to bed one night and notice the light in his shop was on. He looked out the window and saw two niggers moving around in there. He called 911 and reported it, but was told it would take at least 30 minutes for a car to get out there since all units were busy at the moment. He hung up, waited 5 minutes, then called back and said "never mind, I just shot both of them dead."

Within 5 minutes, several squad cars pulled into the driveway, and the niggers were caught. A police lieutenant came up to Grampa and said "I thought you reported that you killed them."

Grampa replied "I thought all you guys were busy."

[Jett Rink]

Dispatcher: "No, don't, don't go out the door, Mister Horn. Mister Horn..."

Horn: "They just stole something, I'm going out to look for 'em, I'm sorry, I ain't letting them get away with this ----. They stole something, they got a bag of stuff. I'm doing it!"

Dispatcher: "Mister, do not go outside the house."

Horn: "I'm sorry, this ain't right, buddy."

Dispatcher: "You gonna get yourself shot if you go outside that house with a gun, I don't care what you think."

Horn: "You wanna make a bet?"

Dispatcher: "Stay in the house."

Horn: "There, one of them's getting away!

Dispatcher: "That's alright, property's not something worth killing someone over. OK? Don't go out the house, don't be shooting nobody. I know you're pissed and you're frustrated but don't do it."

Horn: "They got a bag of loot."

Dispatcher: "OK. How big is the bag?" He then talks off, relaying the information.

Dispatcher: "Which way are they going?"

Horn: "I can't ... I'm going outside. I'll find out."

Dispatcher: "I don't want you going outside, Mister..."

Horn: "Well, here it goes buddy, you hear the shotgun clicking and I'm going."

Dispatcher: "Don't go outside."
On the tape of the 911 call, the shotgun can be heard being cocked and Horn can be heard going outside and confronting someone.

"Boom! You're dead!" he shouts. A loud bang is heard, then a shotgun being cocked and fired again, and then again.

Boom! You're Dead!!! :krofl

It's really just that easy, folks.

[Oy Ze Hate]

Originally Posted by Rex E. Cuto

Good for him. Period.

Reminds me of a joke I heard once.

Grampa got ready to go to bed one night and notice the light in his shop was on. He looked out the window and saw two niggers moving around in there. He called 911 and reported it, but was told it would take at least 30 minutes for a car to get out there since all units were busy at the moment. He hung up, waited 5 minutes, then called back and said "never mind, I just shot both of them dead."

Within 5 minutes, several squad cars pulled into the driveway, and the niggers were caught. A police lieutenant came up to Grampa and said "I thought you reported that you killed them."

Grampa replied "I thought all you guys were busy."

Heh, good one.

Kwaps will drop their donuts and hurry up to bust a white man taking the law into his own hands.

Killing criminal niggers spells big trouble in Kwapland.

[William Burcker]

I just want to know the answer to this question:
"Where does the line form to pin a medal on Joe Horn? I want to get in line."


YES!
The incident may prove a test for a new law recently passed in Texas which expands the right of citizens to use deadly force.

Republican Sen. Jeff Wentworth...
FUCK YOU!

[Sándor Petőfi]

No property is worth shooting someone? Hell, I'd give my stuff away to a Mexican just so I could blast him in the head with a shotgun.

[Cernunnos]

I'd plant a knife just to be sure









All you need is a pair of latex gloves and a decent knife still in the holder. Make sure not to get your prints on there and be sure to dispose of the knife-packaging in a location the cops will not look if they get a warrant.

[TwistedCross]

Originally Posted by Alexei Losonov

I'd plant a knife just to be sure


All you need is a pair of latex gloves and a decent knife still in the holder. Make sure not to get your prints on there and be sure to dispose of the knife-packaging in a location the cops will not look if they get a warrant.

A hair dryer works as well, especially late at night when you can claim you just woke up.

[Jett Rink]

There's a nigger host on KFI talking about this guy right now, he's about to take callers for the next 40 minutes. He seems a little scared about a White man taking a shotgun and shooting mexicans.

Go to their website and look on the top left of the screen for the "Listen Live" button.
http://kfi640.com/main.html

[Jett Rink]

Call in number is 800 520-1KFI

[Richard H.]

Good; shoot them all; let GOD sort them out........

Originally Posted by Jett Rink

There's a nigger host on KFI talking about this guy right now, he's about to take callers for the next 40 minutes. He seems a little scared about a White man taking a shotgun and shooting mexicans.

Go to their website and look on the top left of the screen for the "Listen Live" button.
http://kfi640.com/main.html

[A.S.]

Good job there Mr. Horn. If only we had more White men out there with balls.

And I agree with planting the weapons, esp. if you live in a state like California. You'll be fucked if you shoot an unarmed intruder, so at that point there is nothing to lose by planting a weapon.