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Old November 18th, 2007 #1
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Open Letter to Members of the Party:

NSM Party Comrades, I am addressing this publicly, but it is directed at active Party members. When I first joined the NSM I knew it would be something I would stick with the rest of my life. It was not a club, a gang, or some fleeting thrill for the moment: it was a commitment to a way of life, and a direct link to many of our Forefathers who fought for Blood and Soil.

It has recently come to my attention that certain former and current National Socialists are actively working for the enemy. We have compiled a list of former NSM members: this list is to be kept absolutely confidential! All Current National Socialist Movement members are under direct orders to have no association with the oath breakers and race-traitors on the following list:

FORMER NSM MEMBERS:

NAME LOCATION STATUS

Jim Ramm Portland Oregon Resigned
Ned Sisters Oregon Resigned - inactive
Mike Blevins Florida Resigned
Nick Chappell South Carolina Resigned
Leign Peterson South Dakota Resigned
Richard Brunson Englewood, Colorado Resigned
Chris Bedell Colorado Springs colorado Resigned
Chris Drake Atlanta Georgia Resigned
Alyson Lansing Mi. Resigned
Charlene Dejabet South dakota Resigned
Andrew Gordon South dakota Resigned
Frank Dunmire Rapid City South Dakota Resigned
Taylor Bowl Laurens South Carolina Resigned
Eric Adams Greenville Tennessee Resigned
Abbey Adams Greenville Tennessee Resigned
Greg Mcbrinnen Seattle Resigned
Al Leiberfarb Chicago, IL Resigned
Dillan March Oregon Resigned
Kenneth Hart Portland Oregon Resigned
Gary Nemeth Tacoma Washington Resigned
Virgil Griffin Cleveland, Ohio Resigned
"Cartman" Seattle Washington Resigned
Ryan Seattle Washington Resigned
Claya Huot Portland Oregon Resigned
Ryan Portland Oregon Resigned
Dave Gletty Orlando Florida Nark: Kicked Out
James Getchell Richland, Washington Resigned
John Everett Portland Oregon Resigned
Johnthon Simmons Portland Oregon Resigned
Richard Knoll Fresno California Resigned
Mike Miller Vancouver Wa. Resigned
Nigel Fouvauge Glendale California Resigned
Rick Mon Baron Athol Idaho Resigned
Mike Mcqueeney Wisconsin Kicked out
Ryan Draper Utah Resigned
Mark Martin Covington Ohio Resigned or inactive
Gary Showalter Walla Walla Washington Resigned
Erin Sessions Portland Oregon Resigned
John Brandt Everett Washigton Resigned
Shawn Stewart Butte Montana Resigned
Michael Vanduren Portland Oregon Resigned
Eric Stone Portland Oregon Resigned
Brittney Ohio Resigned
Bradly Hirschorn Spokane Washington Resigned
Professor Jaques Pluss New York Resigned
April Braun-patterson Indiana Resigned
John Snyder Indiana Resigned
Shaun Cour D' Alene Idaho Resigned
Wallis Jones Greensboro N.C. Resigned
Sessa Carlson Cadillac Michigan Resigned
Kimberly Jones Greensboro N. C. Resigned
Dan Carlson Cadillac Michigan Resigned or inactive
Jill Loach Englewood, Colorado Resigned
Josh Henry Georgia Resigned or inactive
Edward Schultz Texas Resigned
Rich Sacremento Calif. Resigned
Dan Benson Libby Montana Resigned
Brad Cadillac Michigan Resigned
Adam Manchester California Resigned
Randoph Tennessee Resigned
James Sutherland Portland Oregon Resigned
Robert M. Bend Oregon Resigned
Josh Rogers Sacremento Califonia Resigned or inactive
Will Moffitt Seattle Washington Resigned
Michael Kenneth Franksville, Wisconsin Kicked Out
Mary Sanders Spokane Washington Resigned
Adam Ganuy Wilmington, NC Resigned
Bill White Roanoke Virginia Kicked Out
Mike "Doc" Synder Florida Resigned
Dean Roberts Minnesota Kicked Out
Peter Rugg Kansas Reporter: Resigned
Gordon Young Sharpsburg, Md Kicked out
Brian Georgia Resigned
Matt Ryan South Carolina Resigned
Justin Boyer Ohio Kicked out
Mike Downs Norfolk, Virginia Resigned
Nate Georgia Resigned
Travis Tulsa Oklahoma Resigned
Lisa Tacoma, Wa Resigned
Reece Terril Conneticut Resigned
Laura Terril Conneticut Resigned
Brian Philips New Jersey Resigned
Joe Nunen South Carolina Resigned
James Kennedy South Carolina Resigned

Those reported communicating with with the above
traitors face stern displinary measures and/or
complete expulsion from America's Nazi party.

-NSM Commander Jeff Schoep



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Old November 18th, 2007 #2
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That list looks identical to the list Ramm published over at: http://zogsnightmare.com/nsmbodycount.html

Isn't Schoep's email address something like nsmcommander@hotmail.com ?
 
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That list looks identical to the list Ramm published over at: http://zogsnightmare.com/nsmbodycount.html

Isn't Schoep's email address something like nsmcommander@hotmail.com ?
I think the header is from an infiltrator on their list. Its not the original To: list on the thing.

I haven't seen anything Ramm has published.

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Old November 18th, 2007 #4
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So.... no longer wishing to be a part of/pay money to the NSM means one is working for the enemy?
 
Old November 18th, 2007 #5
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That list looks identical to the list Ramm published over at: http://zogsnightmare.com/nsmbodycount.html

Isn't Schoep's email address something like nsmcommander@hotmail.com ?
Sure, it looks like that list...Jeff probably cut and paste it...why work any harder than you have to?
 
Old November 18th, 2007 #6
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"It has recently come to my attention that certain former and current National Socialists are actively working for the enemy."

Which enemy? There are a lot of "enemies". Don't let your paranoia run too wild. Something I wouldn't lose sleep over.
 
Old November 18th, 2007 #7
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The only one on the list that is a known race-traitor (as far as I know) is Dave Gletty.

Is Schoep saying that ALL of those people are known race-traitors just because of resigning from NSM? This guy is delusionall, paranoid and a detriment to the Cause.

If he thinks he is really a benefit to the Cause let's hear his side of the story. I'm a NS and can understand the need to purge members sometimes but to label all who leave an oath-breaker makes him look like a schizo.
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Its typical for the NSM, if you even leave on good terms they will slander you,. pretty much if you leave them they will try to discredit you the best they can. Problem is only ppl that will even remotely follow or listen to him is the few members he has left.

And yes that list is exactly the same list jimm ramm put up on his www.zogsnightmare.com website. almost to the tee.

Too Funny

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I wonder how all the recipients like their Email addresses splashed all over the internet?
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Old November 18th, 2007 #11
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By what authority does this guy "command"?
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By what authority does this guy "command"?
He is a self-proclaimed commander. At least Rockwell was an ACTUAL naval commander, the same cannot be said of Jeff Schoep.
 
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There are some others:

Michael Faust from Wisconsin is a murderer / child molestor.

Rick Monbaren is a known informer.

That list is a huge mix of people who have departed over the past four years for various reasons, and it is far from complete.

Plus, several names are misspelled and several names are incomplete or obvious aliases.

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The only one on the list that is a known race-traitor (as far as I know) is Dave Gletty.

Is Schoep saying that ALL of those people are known race-traitors just because of resigning from NSM? This guy is delusionall, paranoid and a detriment to the Cause.

If he thinks he is really a benefit to the Cause let's hear his side of the story. I'm a NS and can understand the need to purge members sometimes but to label all who leave an oath-breaker makes him look like a schizo.
 
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I agree theres many that i know of and many that were "removed" by Jeff for various reasons and many that left cause of the bullshit and just dropped off the face of the earth.

You can take that list and multiply it by 3 and thats about how many have come and gone in a matter of a year to 18 months

and many that were allowed to stay even though they had serious charges against them. goes to show you something about them.
 
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Hah, that would be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Seriously, you gotta try harder if you wanna make your fakes believable.
 
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Over the past few years I've heard a lot of "don't talk to them" orders. I've seen comrades call each other communists, Strasserites, narcs (just on a retard hunch, zero proof), jews and the list goes on. I've sat through scandle after smear campaign after blacklisting of close friends. Its made me feel really beat and downright discouraged at times.

Now would be the part where I very dramatically declare how sick I am of the movement and how everyone should beg and plead with me to stick around, though I'd assure you all that it would be futile. Nah, thats not me and though I am far from being a superman, I at least don't get discouraged easily.

I'll tell you what I am sick of though. I'm sick of being told who my friends are and who my friends won't be and who I will no longer be friends with. NOTHING in this whole struggle irks me more than being told that I don't have the judgement enough to pick out who my comrades are. It needs to be said.

While I'm out 5 miles deap in the swamps of Georgia, exhausted, hungry, soaked to the bone, cold/hot as hell, dragging my 220 pound self plus 50 pounds of gear over yet another fallen tree just to drop my mossberg in the mud...being pushed on by the thundering truth that what makes me better makes the race better...I can always rest assured that when I finally emerge, a would-be leader who has been to far more BBQ's than battles is waiting just a phone call away to tell me who my pals are and aren't. That run-on sentence was completely worth that point. I'm nothing special. While I'm out trying to be the best of the best in our movement, I need to look just a meter or two to the left or right and see plenty of comrades doing the exact same thing.

Maybe to some's surprise (and anger), I'm not talking about Jeff Scheop here. Jeff has earned my respect in the street and if he wanted to call me a race-traitor, I feel he would be man enough to do it to my face. After resigning the SS and publically stating that I was only a side-lines supporter of the NSM, Jeff was still friend enough to welcome me at their nationals. Taylor, a high ranking NSM officer at the time, invited me to be the main speaker at Wild Bill's funeral, a life honor that I not only thank him for, but the entire NSM membership at the time. Jeff also came down the SC capital steps and with his SS detail in toe, attempted to force his way through the police line to back me up when he saw me pushing my way towards a group of antis who were tearing apart a party flag. The cops broke it up before the fight got off the ground but nothing did my heart more good than to see Jeff and his boys about to spring into action over me just trying to pick a fight. Most people would have said, "he shouldn't have been in the protest section, he got what he had coming," should things not gone my way. The press watching, the cops waiting and none of it mattered, it all boiled down to his friend needing support. Say what you will, thats been the story over and over again of my entire time of knowing Jeff Scheop. People have different stories because people have different lives.

All that being said, I likely will never march in the ranks of the NSM again. Its got nothing to do with the scandle of the day or the drama of the hour. I guess to sum it all up, I'm afraid the satanism runs pretty deap in the party and I want no part of it in the least. I'm not making some sort of accusation here, this is pretty much common knowledge. If it works for some, great, just stay the hell away from this Odinist. Anything dreamed up in the desert can stay there for all I'm concerned.

While we're having honestly hour here, I'll say this: Bill White has done nothing to be me except make great efforts to be my friend. You hate him? Fine. No one has any right from here on out to ask me to. He's taken up for me even while I was standing firm with his bitter enemies. I've shot straight with him even though it led to the beggining of the end for me in the NSM. He has seemed to always remember that. He's made a lot of enemies publically and done one hell of a lot of good for people privately and without fanfair. Why Bill has kept some of the good deeds he's done private while brutally attacking his enemies in public is a social and political mystery.

I could go on forever about the different and sharply opposing personalities of people I have befriended in the movement. I could speak highly of many pairs of men would have the other dead should fate deliever it. I've been sitting here for years as a crow perched in a tree, overlooking the battle between my comrades and thinking, "wow, there sure are a lot of good people going after a lot of good people." I'll leave out the scores of others I admire yet bitterly hate someone else I also admire. I'll leave them out simply to not drag their names into this.

But by far, outside of blood relation, Blevins scores at the top of my friend list. Of everyone I've known, he's stuck by me, never attempted to insult me by choosing my friends and shot straight with me each time. He's put his name down beside mine whenever he could. Few men have known as loyal a friend as he. Among my boys, I can say from Woodpile across the line to Rowingschool, I've had almost nothing but the pleasure of fighting alongside the best. I can proudly say that there is not a single dishonorable man in my team.

Now I've stood on the soap box long enough. I will close with this: we have to stick together. I'm not saying put our differences aside or some other pro-disversity catch phrase. Work with our differences, not around them. Anything forgotten isn't settled. Just settle it---words, combat---whatever it takes but remember that honor is contagous. Treat your people with honor and respect and it comes back to you. Leaders, don't choose your men's comrades for them. They are good enough to make their own decisions and if they aren't you should have never let them march behind you to start with. If you think mindless retards are good troops, then you are no leader to start with. If you have to define honor for your men, then you've got even bigger problems. Followers, your freedom to associate freely is half the reason you are in this struggle, if not all. I've got relatively few who look to me for direction but rest assured, without me, they'd still do the right thing. The jew is your enemy as is any non-white threatening your land, reasources and blood. This isn't another pitiful cry for unity. This is a warning: settle it all soon or lose it all. Ask any native tribal cheif what his people gained by his ancestors siding with the enemy to get one over on the tribe in the next valley!! Listen to me or don't.

And to all my friends, thank you again for your loyalty. I have been blessed by the Gods with far more loyalty than I will ever be able to put to positive use. And if any want to attempt to choose my associations, attacking me when I don't accept their ultimatums, by all means do so. I'll show these boys how to properly deal with a real enemy. In my life, I've had few. Seig Heil!
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Just a final thought. This isn't a huge "accept no leader who attempts to set up social boundaries for you" thread. The core of this is simple: leaders, don't tell your people who they can and cannot read and who they can and cannot talk to. This slaps loudly of poor leadership. Its like having a donation jar for your business on the front counter of your business. If your followers hang around race-traitors, feds and the like, then likely they are something similiar themselves. Get rid of them if thats the case. If you feel like you have to tell them to disassociate, then you've filled your ranks with dullards.

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Why Bill has kept some of the good deeds he's done private while brutally attacking his enemies in public is a social and political mystery.
Good deeds are performed for the good, not for the reputation or fame they provide.

To perform a "good deed" and make it public is to take away from it the "good" and replace it with vanity or pride.

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Good deeds are performed for the good, not for the reputation or fame they provide.

To perform a "good deed" and make it public is to take away from it the "good" and replace it with vanity or pride.

The judge of things is not public applause, but that which knows all without being told.
Maybe I've gotten to used to people who advertise the fact they committed no major wrong doing and imortalize the small favors they might happen to grant to their fellow man. You know the types--the movement is full of them--if you have a job, no serious record and pay your bills, you are a good person and a cut above the rest. I can honestly say that I've grown completely used to people who feel they deserve congradulations for doing the right thing 80% of the time.

Well, Bill, not kissing up here...you've done a great deal of good deads for a lot of people I know personally. I can say this much---where there is a lot of backroom treachery hidden but surrounding a lot of White Nationalists leaders, there is a lot of backyard kindness equally hidden and surrounding Bill White. I know I'll get a few angry emails but thats fine. Everyone is free to tell me when good is not good and evil is evil, since I need programming daily. I'm calling it like I see it. Anyone want to see me angry for one of the few times in my White Nationalist life? Tell me what I see isn't what I see and what I hear isn't what I heard.
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Thank you Chris.

I do what I can where I can.

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Maybe I've gotten to used to people who advertise the fact they committed no major wrong doing and imortalize the small favors they might happen to grant to their fellow man. You know the types--the movement is full of them--if you have a job, no serious record and pay your bills, you are a good person and a cut above the rest. I can honestly say that I've grown completely used to people who feel they deserve congradulations for doing the right thing 80% of the time.

Well, Bill, not kissing up here...you've done a great deal of good deads for a lot of people I know personally. I can say this much---where there is a lot of backroom treachery hidden but surrounding a lot of White Nationalists leaders, there is a lot of backyard kindness equally hidden and surrounding Bill White. I know I'll get a few angry emails but thats fine. Everyone is free to tell me when good is not good and evil is evil, since I need programming daily. I'm calling it like I see it. Anyone want to see me angry for one of the few times in my White Nationalist life? Tell me what I see isn't what I see and what I hear isn't what I heard.
 
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