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Facts about homosexuals - queers and lesbians. Physical and mental risks of their practices.

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Child Molestation by Homosexuals and Heterosexuals

by Brian W. Clowes, Ph D, David L. Sonnier

The Church has always had a small number of priests and other religious who have taken advantage of their positions of authority and influence in order to gain sexual favors or to take advantage of the helpless. The problem of clerical child sexual molestation, particularly in the United States, has been widely exposed and publicized over the last several years. The numerous recent revelations have exposed the problem as much deeper and more widespread than most would have previously believed.

During the current crisis, homosexual activists within and outside the Catholic Church have done everything they could to divert attention away from even the possibility that there may be a higher percentage of homosexuals among the priesthood than in the general public, and that this may be the root of the problem of child sexual molestation within the Church. It is particularly the link between homosexuality and child molestation that they seek to deny.

For example, Dignity USA kicked off its "Stop Blaming Gay Priests" campaign during the meeting of the United States Catholic Bishops Conference in Washington, D.C., November 10-13, 2002. The group said, "DigntyUSA [sic] is calling on the U.S. Catholic bishops to stop blaming gay priests for the clergy sexual abuse scandal. All credible evidence discounts any link between the molestation of children and homosexuality."1

The situation has become so charged that anyone who even suggests that there may be a connection between homosexuality and pedophilia is instantly and reflexively labeled a "homophobe" and a "gay basher." The powerful homosexual lobby reacts instinctively to negative publicity and information by, as researcher Laird Wilcox calls it, "ritually defaming" those who dare raise their voices.2 Organized homosexual groups first attempt to completely ignore the evidence, or, if it simply cannot be ignored, they smear and discredit those who produced it.

Such casual dismissal of documented facts, and the accompanying refusal to even discuss the possibility of a link between an active homosexual lifestyle and child sexual abuse, is a grave disservice not only to the victims, but also to society at large. Obviously, a proven link between homosexual orientation and child sexual molestation would badly damage the carefully crafted public relations image of the homosexual rights movement. Therefore, instead of calmly and rationally discussing the issues, homosexual rights leaders subscribe to the axiom "the best defense is a good [and loud] offense," and remain in a permanent attack mode.

The only way to solve the problem of priestly child molestation is to proceed methodically: establish the facts, objectively study all facts relating to the situation, and finally, but most importantly, have the courage and faith to respond by taking appropriate steps. If all of this is not done, any such effort, no matter how well intentioned or vigorously pursued, will be utterly squandered. Certainly we owe it to the victims—and to the Catholic Faith itself—to determine the truth behind this volatile topic.

Studies on the frequency of homosexual child molestation

Dignity USA and other homosexual groups strenuously deny any connection whatever between a homosexual orientation and child sexual molestation. They repeatedly claim, as Dignity USA does, that "All credible evidence discounts any link between the molestation of children and homosexuality."3

Yet these groups never cite any of this "credible evidence," nor do they quote any studies to buttress their claims that there is no such connection.

In fact, a number of studies performed over a period spanning more than half a century — many of which were performed by homosexuals or their sympathizers— have shown that an extremely large percentage of sexually active homosexuals also participate in child sexual molestation.

This is not "homophobia" or "hatred," this is simple scientific fact.

For example;

* Homosexual Alfred Kinsey, the preeminent sexual researcher in the history of sexual research, found in 1948 that 37 percent of all male homosexuals admitted to having sex with children under 17 years old.4
* A very recent (2000) study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that "The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2-4% of men attracted to adults prefer men. In contrast, around 25-40% of men attracted to children prefer boys. Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 620 times higher among pedophiles."5
* Another 2000 study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that". . . all but 9 of the 48 homosexual men preferred the youngest two male age categories" for sexual activity;' These age categories were fifteen and twenty years old.6
* Yet another recent study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that "Pedophilia appears to have a greater than chance association with two other statistically infrequent phenomena. The first of these is homosexuality . . . Recent surveys estimate the prevalence of homosexuality, among men attracted to adults, in the neighborhood of 2%. In contrast, the prevalence of homosexuality among pedophiles may be as high as 30-40%."7
* A 1989 study in the Journal of Sex Research noted that " . . . the proportion of sex offenders against male children among homosexual men is substantially larger than the proportion of sex offenders against female children among heterosexual men . . . the development of pedophilia is more closely linked with homosexuality than with heterosexuality."8
* A 1988 study of 229 convicted child molesters published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that 86% of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.9
* In a 1984 Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy article, sex researchers found that "The proportional prevalence of [male] offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent."10
* Homosexual activists Karla Jay and I Allen Young revealed in their 1979 Gay Report that 73% of all homosexuals I have acted as "chicken hawks" — that is, they have preyed on adolescent or younger boys.11
* In a 1992 study published in the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy, sex researchers K. Freud and R. I. Watson found that homosexual males are three times more likely than straight men to engage in pedophilia, and that the average pedophile victimizes between 20 and 150 boys before being arrested.12
* A study by sex researchers Alan Bell and Martin Weinberg found that 25% of white homosexual men have had sex with boys sixteen years and younger.13

There are occasional scientific attempts to deny or obscure the fact that a disproportionately high percentage of active homosexuals also molest children. These studies are invariably afflicted with one or more fatal flaws.

A typical example, oft-quoted by gay rights activists, is the July 1994 Pediatrics article by Jenny, Roesler and Poyer that finds that "Using the data from our study, the 95% confidence limits of the risk children would identify recognizably homosexual adults as the potential abuser, are from 0% to 3.1%. These limits are within current estimates of the prevalence of homosexuality in the general community."14

The fatal flaw of this study is that it studied sexually abused children with a mean age of just 6.1 years. Children of this young age are usually targets of true pedophiles, those persons with no sexual attraction to adults of either sex. By contrast, homosexual pedophiles are usually classified as "ephebophiles," persons sexually attracted to pubescent or post-pubescent underage children.

The "ten percent" myth

There is much propaganda claiming that homosexuals comprise about ten percent of the population in the United States and in many other nations.

Even the names of many homosexual organizations and initiatives reflect this number: 'The Ten Percent Foundation," "Project Ten," and the "One in Ten Club" are a few examples. Some leading homosexual authors continue to insist that one in ten persons are born "gay."

As Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen claim in their book After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear & Hatred of Gays in the 90's, ". . . it is simply a matter of the odds —one in ten—as to who turns out gay, and who straight. Each heterosexual must be led to realize that he might easily have been born homosexual himself."15 Kirk subsequently boasted about how effective the homosexual propaganda campaign has been when he said that "When straights are asked for a formal estimate, the figure played back most often is the '10% gay' statistic which our propagandists have been drilling into their heads for years."16

The purpose of the "ten percent" figure is to create in the public mind an easily-remembered "everyone knows" idea that homosexuals make up a much larger percentage of the population than they do in reality.

The original source of the "ten percent" statistic is Alfred Kinsey, the world's most famous sex researcher. His best-known "finding" held that ten percent of the male population is "more or less exclusively homosexual for at least three years between the ages of 16 and 55. This is one male in ten in the white male population." Kinsey also claimed that four percent of all males are exclusively homosexual throughout their entire lives.17 This percentage is not only the basis of the homosexual-rights "ten percent" claim, but also serves as a cornerstone of the sex education classes being taught in the United States and much of the rest of the world today.

Researcher Bruce Voeller explains how the mere constant repetition of this statistic made it true in the minds of many,

I campaigned with Gay groups and in the media across the country for the Kinsey-based finding that "We are everywhere." This slogan became a National Gay Task Force leitmotif. And the issues derived from the implications of the Kinsey data became key parts of the national political, educational, and legislative programs during my years at New York's Gay Activist Alliance and the National Gay Task Force.

After years of our educating those who inform the public and make its laws, the concept that 10 percent of the population is gay has become a generally accepted "fact." While some reminding always seems necessary, the 10 percent figure is regularly utilized by scholars, by the press, and in government statistics. As with so many pieces of knowledge and myth, repeated telling made it so.18

In fact, the numbers are much smaller. There have been a number of major studies gauging the percentage of homosexuals in the general population. The aggregated results of these studies surveyed more than 218,000 men in several countries and show that 2.6 percent of the male population has ever had a homosexual experience in their lives.19

So much for the "ten percent" myth.

Definitions and calculations

The John Jay study on the sex abuse crisis in the Catholic Church in the United States defines "pedophiles" as people who "exhibit recurrent, intense, sexually arousing fantasies, urges or behaviors related to sexual contact with a prepubescent child over a period of at least six months duration."20

When people speak of the current crisis being a problem involving "pedophile priests," they are addressing only a small portion of the situation. According to the John Jay study, most of the sexually offending priests are not true pedophiles. They are, instead, "ephebophiles," who "exhibit these same fantasies, urges or behaviors towards post-pubescent youths."21 Generally, the John Jay study recognized that pedophilia can be defined as the molestation of children aged ten and younger. The National Review Board study defines "ephebophilia" as "homosexual attraction to adolescent males," a definition that certainly is validated by quotes by "gay rights" activists elsewhere in this article.22

Table 3.5.4 of the John Jay Study is reproduced below. It clearly shows that, as the age of the victims rises, the percentage of victims decisively shifts from primarily female to overwhelmingly male.

Table 3.5.4

Alleged Victims of Sexual Abuse Incidents, "Grouped by Age and Sex."

Gender

1-7
Years

8-10
Years

11-14
Years

15-17
Years

Totals
11-17 Yrs
Total

487

1,390

5,016

3,394


8,410
Male

203
41.7%

992
71.4%

4,282
85.4%

2,892
85.2%

7,174
85.3%
Female

284
58.3%

398
28.6%

734
14.6%

502
14.8%

1,236
1.4.7%

The results shown in Table 3.5.4 stand in stark contrast to United States Department of Health and Human Services statistics, which show that male-on-male child sexual abuse in the USA comprises only 14.4% of all sexual abuse committed by males. In other words, in the general population of males who sexually abuse minors, only one in seven molest boys. In the population of priests who sexually abuse minors, six in seven molest boys.23 Figure I graphically depicts the numbers of alleged victims of sexual abuse incidents, grouped by gender and age. One can clearly see the percentage of victims is overwhelmingly male.

Many experts have claimed that there is a much higher percentage of homosexuals in the priesthood than there is in the general population. Let us assume for a moment that the concentration of male homosexuals in the priesthood is four times greater than it is in the general population—about ten percent. Using the figures given in Table 3.5.4, we find that a homosexual priest is

(85.3%/10.0%)/(14.7%190.0%) = 52

times more likely to molest a child than a heterosexual priest.

If we use the more reasonable assumption that five percent of all priests are homosexual ' (still about twice the average in the general population), we see that a homosexual priest is

(85.3%/5.0%)1(14.7%/95.0%) = 110

times more likely to molest a child than a heterosexual priest.

It is well known (and logical) that homosexuals with a desire for young children purposefully seek employment that will bring them into proximity with the greatest number of children possible. The most "promising" jobs of this nature include clergymen working in youth ministry, Boy Scout leaders and schoolteachers.

This is primarily why homosexual teachers have been involved in more than eighty percent of all recorded cases of teacher/pupil sex. And it may also explain why homosexuals are trying so hard to force the Boy Scouts of America to accept practicing homosexuals as leaders. Some homosexuals may see such acceptance as one more step toward achieving general social recognition and approval for homosexual activity, and nothing more. For homosexual child molesters, however, such recognition by the Boy Scouts would provide more ready access to children they can abuse.

A nationwide survey of school principals showed that they received 13 times as many complaints about homosexuals sexually molesting students than they did about heterosexuals molesting students.24

Other studies have shown that homosexual teachers are from 90 to 100 times more likely to molest students than heterosexual teachers.25

Supporting quotes by active homosexuals

As further evidence of the strong connection between active homosexuality and child molestation, many homosexual leaders have openly admitted that there is a natural link between a homosexual orientation and child sexual abuse.

Many homosexual organizations and leaders not only admit to, but support, the sexual abuse of children by homosexuals.

An editorial in the San Francisco Sentinel, a member of the National Lesbian & Gay Journalist's Association, claimed that

The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality. For the gay community to imply that boy-love is not homosexual love is ridiculous. We must not be seduced into believing misinformation from the press and the government. Child molesting does occur, but there are also positive sexual relations. And we need to support the men and the boys in those relationships.26

The notorious North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), one of several organized pedophile groups, almost always has a photo of a pre-teen boy on the cover of its NAMBLA Bulletin, as well as many others in its pages.

Pedophile Philip Hutchinson's poem entitled "Choirboy" is entirely typical of the fare found in the Bulletin;

"You look like a cherub, but you're worldly-wise. You'd love to have me think you're newly-born, but I can spot the twinkle in your eyes; you know damned well how much you turn me on. Between us, you're the satyr — I'm the saint, so shed your sacred robe and bare your skin, surrender to my touch without restraint, and later, put your halo on again."27

One of NAMBLA's flyers says that

There is no age at which a person becomes capable of consenting to sex. The age of sexual consent is just one of many ways in which adults impose their system of control on children. . . Amazing as it may seem in this child-hating and homophobic society, boy lovers [pederasts] find boys attractive and like their spontaneity and openness.28

Convicted pedophile and NAMBLA member David Thorstad has said that "I think that pederasty should be given the stamp of approval. I think it's true that boy-lovers [pederasts] are much better for children than the parents are . . ."29

Like the "ten percent" myth, the concept that adults can legitimately have sex with children originated with the A1fred Kinsey team. Sex educator and Alfred Kinsey co-researcher Wardell Pomeroy said that "People seem to think that any [sexual] contact between children and adults has a bad effect on the child. I say that this can be a loving and thoughtful, responsible sexual activity."30

Interestingly, while the mainstream press and liberal groups systematically pillory the Catholic Church, they entirely ignore the well organized efforts by professional associations to decriminalize and normalize child sexual abuse. There exists a determined effort to decriminalize and destigmatize sexual relationships between adults and children in preparation for "normalizing" them.

For example, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) recently sponsored a symposium in which participants discussed the removal of pedophilia from an upcoming edition of the group's psychiatric manual of mental disorders. At about the same time, the Archives of Sexual Behavior published a special edition in December 2002 discussing whether pedophilia should remain a mental disorder.31

As early as 1988, a leading American psychological journal, Behavior Today, claimed, "Pedophilia may be a sexual orientation rather than a sexual deviation. This raises the question as to whether pedophiles may have rights."32

Frequency of molestation by individuals

Among the general class of male sexual deviants (both homosexual and heterosexual), pederasts (boy molesters) are found to be much more prolific in their offenses than pedophiles (girl molesters).

The most extensive study performed on the relative degree of predatory behavior of these two classes of male sexual deviants found that 153 pederasts sexually molested 22,981 boys over an average period of 22 years, while 224 pedophiles molested 4,435 girls over an average period of 18 years.33 This means that each pederast molested an average of 150 boys, and each pedophile molested an average of 20 girls—a ratio of 7.5 to one.

Confession of a Monsignor

It is clear, even without reference to the numerous reports throughout the recent years, that homosexuals have infiltrated the ranks of the clergy to an astonishing degree. In some corners of the Church, such behavior has long been seen as acceptable. To cite just one recent example, Msgr. Richard Sniezyk, appointed to head the Diocese of Springfield-in-Massachusetts after its bishop resigned amid sexual abuse allegations, said in an interview that the

recent scandal in the Catholic Church stems from a belief among some priests during the 1960s, '70s, and '80s that sex with young men was "acceptable":

Monsignor Richard S. Sniezyk, 66, the leader of the Springfield Diocese until the Vatican names a bishop to replace Thomas L. Dupre, said that as a seminarian and then a young priest … he heard of priests who had sex with young men, but "no one thought much about it" because priests didn't recognize how mentally and emotionally damaging their behavior was … "It was that era of the '60s most of it took place from the mid- '60s to the early' 80s— and the whole atmosphere out there was, it was OK, it was OK to do."34

This is not a statement by an anti-Catholic partisan or some homosexual activist, but rather an admission from none other than the duly-appointed shepherd of souls in this Massachusetts diocese.

It is easy to look back on the crisis in the Catholic Church in the United States and place blame on the Vatican, on the bishops, on the seminaries, or even on our society's permissive attitude toward sexuality in general. But much terrible damage has already been done —to the victims, to the Church, and to the souls of many whose faith has been shaken or even destroyed by the scandal.

Our primary responsibilities at this point are not blame and condemnation, but reparation and prevention. We must compensate the victims, and we must reassure them by making certain that there are as few victims as possible in the future.

We often hear from the homosexual-rights movement that "gays" are "born that way." This may or may not be true, depending on which of the hundreds of conflicting studies we choose to believe.

In the most fundamental sense, this point is irrelevant. We are all born with weaknesses, a direct result of our fallen natures. We can deal with these weaknesses in one of two ways. We can accept them as crosses given to us by God, and we can glorify his Name by struggling to overcome them with the aid of his grace. Or we can simply give in and use the "born that way" excuse, the weak and cowardly road that is a vote of no-confidence in God's grace and its ability to save us.

Alcoholism has been proven to be genetic. Yet our spouses do not accept the "born that way" excuse if we arrive home stinking drunk every night. Kleptomania may indeed also be genetic, yet no court in the land has ever accepted the "born that way" excuse as a defense against shoplifting charges.

Alcoholics and 'kleptos' can become good and holy priests — just so long as they recognize their weaknesses, avoid near occasions of sin, and fight to overcome them on a daily basis with the help of God's grace. Men who are sexually attracted to women or other men can also become saintly priests — but only if they do not give in and act out their desires.

A man who is living an active homosexual lifestyle should never be ordained a priest. A man with homosexual tendencies who lives a scrupulously chaste life could be ordained a priest, and he could be a very good one, but only if he clearly recognizes the dangers and heartbreak his desires could cause in the future if he yields to them.

Recommendation

Pope John Paul II himself has set an example for dealing with our current crisis in the recent requirement he imposed upon an archbishop in Scotland. To restore the confidence of the faithful, His Holiness required a Profession of Faith be taken by Cardinal Designate Keith Patrick O'Brien on Tuesday, October 7th, 2003 at Mary's Cathedral, Edinburgh.

This profession of faith included the key words:

I further state that I accept and intend to defend the law on ecclesiastical celibacy as it is proposed by the Magisterium of the Catholic Church; I accept and promise to defend the ecclesiastical teaching about the immorality of the homosexual act; I accept and promise to promulgate always and I everywhere what the Church's Magisterium teaches on contraception. So help me God and these Holy I Scriptures, which I touch with my hand.35

In response to the crisis of confidence in the United States generated by a gradual infiltration of homosexuals into the ranks of the clergy over the years, we propose that all clergy, regardless of rank, status, or position, be required to sign the same Profession of Faith clearly condemning all homosexual acts and precluding the clergy from advocating or approving homosexual acts, contraception, and related sins of grave immorality. We further propose that those who refuse to sign have their faculties suspended, effective immediately upon their statement of intent not to take the oath.

Brian W Clowes, Ph.D., is a graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point. In 1995 he became the director of research and training for Human Life International. He and Mrs. Clowes have seven children and live in Virginia. Dr. Clowes has given many public speeches and is the author of many pamphlets and articles. This is his first article for HPR.

Mr. David L Sonnier is an assistant professor of computer science at Lyon College in Batesville, Arkansas. He is also a doctoral student at the University of Arkansas, Little Rock, in computational science. He and his wife currently live with their seven children in Arkansas. Professor Sonnier is the author of Springtime Decay, a study of the decline in enrollment in seminaries since the close of the Second Vatican Council. This is his first article for HPR.

End Notes

1 Dignity USA Web site at http://www.dignityusa.org/news/021107dc-media.html, February 6, 2004.

2 See the Editorial Research Service Web site at http://www.lairdwilcox.com. Click on “News and Thoughts,” and then on “The Practice of Ritual Defamation.”

3 Dignity USA Web site at http://www.dignityusa.org/news/021107dc-media.html, February 6, 2004.

4 Alfred Kinsey data described in P.H. Gebhard and A.B. Johnson. The Kinsey Data. Saunders Publishing, 1979 Table 443, “Homosexual Sample: Age at First Post pubertal Homosexual Contact,” and Table 444, “Homosexual Sample: Age of Partner in First Postpubertal Homosexual Contact.”

5 Ray Blanchard, et al. “Fraternal Birth Order and Sexual Orientation in Pedophiles.” Archives of Sexual Behavior, Volume 29, Number 5 (2000), pages 463 to 478.

6 A. Zebulon, Z.A. Silverthorne and Vernon L. Quinsey. “Sexual Partner Age Preferences of Homosexual and Heterosexual Men and Women.” Archives of Sexual Behavior, February 2000 [Volume 29, Number 1], pages 67 to 76.

7 Ray Blanchard, et. al. “Pedophiles: Mental Retardation, Maternal Age, and Sexual Orientation.” Archives of Sexual Behavior, Volume 28, Number 2, pages 111 to 127.

8 Kurt Freund, Robin Watson and Douglas Rienzo. “Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, and Erotic Age Preference.” Journal of Sex Research, February 1989 [Volume 26, Number 1], pages 107 to 117.

9 W.D. Erickson, et al. “Behavior Patterns of Child Molesters.” 17 Archives of Sexual Behavior 77, 83 (1988).

10 K. Freund, G. Heasman, I.G. Racansky, and G. Glancy. “Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality.” Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy, Fall 1984 [Volume 10, Number 3], pages 193 to 200.

11 Homosexual activists Karla Jay and Allen Young. The Gay Report: Lesbians and Gay Men Speak Out About Sexual Experiences and Lifestyles [Simon and Schuster, 1979], page 275.

12 K. Freund & R.I. Watson. “The Proportions of Heterosexual and Homosexual Pedophiles Among Sex Offenders Against Children: An Exploratory Study.” 18 34, Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 34-43 (1992).

13 Alan P.Bell, et. al., Institute for Sex Research. Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women [Simon and Schuster, 1980].

14 C. Jenny, T.A. Roesler, and K.L. Poyer, Kempe Children’s Center, Department of Pediatrics, University of Colorado Health Sciences Center, Denver. “Are Children at Risk for Sexual Abuse by Homosexuals?” Pediatrics, July 1994 [Volume 94, Number 1], pages 41 to 44]

15 Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen. After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear & Hatred of Gays in the 90’s. New York: Plume Books, 1989. This book is an expansion of the article by Marshall K. Kirk and Erastes Pill entitled “The Overhauling of Straight America,” published in the October and November 1987 issues of Guide Magazine.

16 Marshall Kirk, quoted in J. Gordon Muir. “Homosexuals and the 10% Fallacy.” The Wall Street Journal, March 31, 1993.

17 Alfred C. Kinsey, Wardell B. Pomeroy and Clyde E. Martin. Sexual Behavior in the Human Male [Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company], 1948, page 651.

18 Bruce Voeller. “Some Uses and Abuses of the Kinsey Scale.” Homosexuality, Heterosexuality: Concepts of Sexual Orientation. The Kinsey Institute Series, June Machover Reinisch (general editor), Oxford University Press, 1990, pages 35 and 36.

19 Article citation [location of study, year of study, and number of men and women reporting a homosexual experience at any time in their lives]. (1) J.M. Sundet, et.al. “Prevalence of Risk-Prone Sexual Behaviour in the General Population of Norway.” Described in Georg Liss, Global Impact of AIDS, 1988, pages 53 to 60 [Norway, 1987, 221 of 3,150 men and 189 of 3,150 women]; (2) K.W. Schmidt, et.al. “Occurrence of Sexual Behaviour Related to the Risk of HIV-Infection.” Danish Medical Bulletin 1989:36, pages 84 to 88 [Denmark, 1987, 46 of 1,155 men]; (3) M. Melbye and R.J. Biggar. American Journal of Epidemiology 1992, 135 pages 593 to 602 [Denmark, 1989, 92 of 1,589 men and 86 of 1,589 women]; (4) G.M. Breakwell and C. Fife-Shaw. “Sexual Activities and Preferences in a United Kingdom Sample of 16 to 20-Year Olds.” Archives of Sexual Behavior, 1992:21, pages 271 to 293. Also see D. Forman and C. Chilvers. “Sexual Behaviour of Young and Middle-Aged Men in England and Wales.” British Medical Journal, 298, 1989, pages 1,137 to 1,142 [Great Britain, 1989, 54 of 1,086 men and 52 of 1,085 women]; (5) G. Ramafedi, et.al. “Demography of Sexual Orientation in Adolescents.” Pediatrics, 1992:89, pages 714 to 721 [United States, 1987, 700 of 18,370 men and 700 of 18,371 women]; (6) S. Roberts and C. Turner. “Male-Male Sexual Contact in the USA: Findings From Five Sample Surveys, 1970-1990.” Journal of Sexual Research 1991:28, 491-519 [United States, 1989, 47 of 904 men]; (7) Deborah Dawson. “AIDS Knowledge and Attitudes for January-March, 1990, Provisional Data From the National Health Interview Survey;” Joseph E. Fitti and Marcie Cynamon, op. cit. for April-June, 1990; Pamela F.Adams and Ann M. Hardy, op. cit. for July-September, 1990. All in Advance Data, numbers 193, 195, and 198, National Center for Health Statistics, Centers for Disease Control, Public Health Service, United States Department of Health and Human Services. Page 11 in all three documents [United States, 1992, 3,070 of 109,654 men]; (8) Study ending in June of 1992, performed by Alfred Spira of the Bicetre Hospital of Paris, described in Peter Aldhous. “Sexual Behavior: French Venture Where U.S. Fears to Tread.” Science Magazine, July 3, 1992, page 25 [France, 1992, 410 of 10,000 men and 260 of 10,000 women]; (9) Results of a November 1992 election exit poll, described in Murray Edelman. “The Gay Issues.” The New York Times, November 5, 1992, pages B8 and B9 [United States, 1992, 205 of 7,745 men and 167 of 7,745 women]; (10) Alan Guttmacher Institute. Family Planning Perspectives. April 15, 1993. Study quoted in Kim Painter. “Only 1% of Men Say They Are Gay.” USA Today, April 15, 1993, pages 1Aand 8D [United States, 1993, 76 of 3,321 men]; (11) Leger Marketing. Canadian Perceptions of Homosexuality, July 16, 2001. Downloaded from http://www.legermarketing.com [Canada, 2001, 39 of 753 men and 39 of 754 women]; (12) “Canadian Community Health Survey.” The Daily, June 15, 2004. Statistics Canada. Downloaded from http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/040615/d040 615b.html. 1.3 percent of men and 0.7 percent of women surveyed described their sexual orientation as homosexual. However, nowhere in the CCHS literature is the breakout between the numbers of men and women surveyed explained. This necessitated a call to Mr. Harold Rennie of Statistics Canada, who said that a total of 60,514 men and 70,366 women were surveyed (telephone communication of July 12, 2004) [Canada, 2004, 787 of 60,514 men and 493 of 70,366 women]. Summing the numbers of the above studies, the totals of men and women reporting a homosexual experience at any time in their lives was 2.6% for men (5,747 of 218,241 men surveyed) and 1.8% for women (1,986 of 113,060 women surveyed). For all cases in which both men and women were studied but no breakout between men and women was given, it is assumed that the studies and surveys concentrated on a population that was split evenly between men and women.

20 John Jay College of Criminal Justice. The Nature and Scope of the Problem of Sexual Abuse of Minors by Catholic Priests and Deacons in the United States. April 2004, Section 3.1, “Introduction to the Problem of Child Sexual Abuse by Adult Men.”

21 Ibid.

22 National Review Board. A Report on the Crisis in the Catholic Church in the United States. February 27, 2004, page 27, footnote 15.

23 United States Department of Health & Human Services, Administration for Children and Families, Administration on Children, Youth and Families, Children’s Bureau. Child Maltreatment [annual reports, 1995 to 2001]. The complete reports are available at http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ cb/publications/cmreports.htm. Note that different numbers of states reported information for different years. For the 1997 Report, Table 7-2, “Type of Maltreatment by Sex of Perpetrator.”

24 J. Dressler. “Gay Teachers: A Disesteemed Minority in an Overly Esteemed Profession.” Rutgers/Camden Law Journal, 1978, 9 (3), pages 399 to 445.

25 Ibid.

26 Point of View. “No Place for Homo-Homophobia.” San Francisco Sentinel, March 26, 1992.

27 Pedophile Philip Hutchinson’s poem entitled “Choirboy.” NAMBLA [North American Man-Boy Love Association] Bulletin, January-February 1984, page 14.

28 North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) flyer, quoted in Shirley J. O’Brien. “The Child Molester: Porn Plays a Major Role in Life.” National Federation for Decency Journal, May/June 1987, pages 9 to 11. Also see a flyer distributed by NAMBLA described in “NAMBLA Cancels Meeting Following NFD Protest.”

29 David Thorstad, quoted in Joseph Sobran. “The Moderate Radical.” Human Life Review, Summer 1983, pages 59 and 60.

30 Sex educator and Alfred Kinsey co-researcher Wardell Pomeroy, quoted in Michael Ebert. “Pedophilia Steps Into the Daylight.” Focus on the Family Citizen, November 16, 1992, pages 6 to 8.

31 Lawrence Morahan. “Psychiatric Association Debates Lifting Pedophilia Taboo.” CNSNews.com, June 11, 2003; ASB article discussed in Linda Ames Nicolosi. International Academy of Sex Research Joins the Debate: Is Pedophilia a Mental Disorder? NARTH, June 26, 2003.

32 Behavior Today, December 5, 1988, page 5.

33 Paul Cameron. “Homosexual Molestation of Children/Sexual Interaction of Teacher and Pupil.” Psychological Reports, 1985, 57, pages 1,227 to 1,236.

34 John M. McElhenny, “Monsignor Says Harm of Abuse Wasn’t Recognized,” Boston Globe, February 23, 2004, as reported at http://www. boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/ Mr. David L. Sonnier is an assistant professor of computer science at Lyon College in Batesville, Arkansas. He is also a doctoral student at the University of Arkansas, Little Rock, in computational science. He and his wife currently live with their seven children in Arkansas. Professor Sonnier is the author of Springtime Decay, a study of the decline in enrollment in seminaries since the close of the Second Vatican Council. This is his first article for HPR.

Dr. Brian W. Clowes, Ph.D., is a graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point. In 1995 he became the director of research and training for Human Life International. He and Mrs. Clowes have seven children and live in Virginia. Dr. Clowes has given many public speeches and is the author of many pamphlets and articles. This is his first article for HPR.

Mr. David L. Sonnier is an assistant professor of computer science at Lyon College in Batesville, Arkansas. He is also a doctoral student at the University of Arkansas, Little Rock, in computational science. He and his wife currently live with their seven children in Arkansas. Professor Sonnier is the author of Springtime Decay, a study of the decline in enrollment in seminaries since the close of the Second Vatican Council. This is his first article for HPR.

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http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/stud...osexuality.htm
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Aren't Homosexuals just like Heterosexuals?

If you are a parent, a mother or a father, counseling
your son on a future career, would you encourage him
to take a job that would:

1) decrease his life expectancy by 30 years

2) give him only a 9% change of living to reach
old age

3) put him in a situation where he is 87 times
more apt to be murdered than a man not in his
occupation

4) make him 35 times more apt to commit suicide

5) increase by 18 times his chance of death by a
traffic accident

6) make it virtually impossible for him to have
children and a long-term, loving and supportive
marriage

7) increase his chance by possibly 100 times of
getting a severe intestinal infection that leads to
colostomy

8) increase his chance by many thousands of times
of getting AIDS

I'm sure you would not recommend any occupation even
half as dangerous for your son as the one I just
described.

But I didn't describe an occupation, I described male
homosexuality.

But you say, homosexuals are born that way. No
they're not. This is an acquired problem and it can
be treated and reversed.

References for numbers 1 through 5:

Cameron, P. et al. Life Span of Homosexuals.
Family Research Report, April-June 1991

This was a study of 5,371 obituaries from sixteen U.S.
homosexual journals compared to a large sample of
obituaries from regular newspapers.

No. 6 is self-explanatory.

For No. 7, there are several references:

New England Journal of Medicine, 1980, 302:463-4

50,000 gay men in San Francisco have some type of
serious intestinal infection. This is approximately
30% to 50% of the gay population in San Francisco.
This intestinal infection rate is at least 100 times
the intestinal infection rate in the heterosexual
population.

The proportion of homosexuals with intestinal
parasites (worms, flukes ameba) ranges from 25% to
nearly 60% depending on the article read.
References include Jaffee, H. et al. National Case
Control Study of Kaposi's Sarcomas, Annals of Internal
Medicine 1983:00:145-51, Quinn, T.C. et al, The
Polymicrobial Origin of Intestinal Infection in
Homosexual Men. New England Journal of Medicine
1983:309:576-82 and Biggar, R.J. Low T-lymphocyte
Ratios in Homosexual Men, Journal of the
American Medical Association 1984:251:1441-46.

No. 8

Greater than 70% of all AIDS cases are in homosexuals.
Homosexuals consist of approximately 5% of the
population. The other 30% of AIDS are in the other
95% of the population (e.g. drug addicts, transfusion
recipients, etc.)

That means we have approximately 175,000 cases of AIDS
in the homosexual population which would be 12.5
million people (5% of 250 million), and we have 75,000
cases among the rest of the population, which would be
95% of 237.5 million. The mathematics show that the
chance of getting AIDS is at least a thousand times
greater and probably many thousands of
times greater in the homosexual community compared to
the heterosexual community.
 
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I can't believe anyone who made it through grade school could still be stupid enough to hate entire groups of people based on what they perceive as facts. FOX airs "facts." That doesn't mean it's even true. You people make me angry.
Hmmm...you people...hmmm. Has a nice ring to it. Douchebags.
 
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I can't believe anyone who made it through grade school could still be stupid enough to hate entire groups of people based on what they perceive as facts. FOX airs "facts." That doesn't mean it's even true. You people make me angry.
Hmmm...you people...hmmm. Has a nice ring to it. Douchebags.
I'm glad we make you angry. Perhaps you'll get angry enough to question the propaganda you've been inundated with, and in particular, begin to wonder why any criticism of homosexuals is increasingly censored.

Do you have any idea about the lengths homos will go to in order to satisfy their depravity? The Homosexinfo website documents their practices in full. Here's an excerpt on Rectal Insertions:

http://www.homosexinfo.org/Sexuality/RectalObjects

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Some homosexuals insert foreign bodies into their rectum for pleasure. Occasionally, while moving an object back and forth, a homosexual or his partner may loose his grip on the object and the foreign body gets sucked into the colorectum. In emergency departments, some such objects recovered from the colorectum of homosexuals include soft-drink and other bottles, jars, light bulbs, candles, fruits like bananas and apples; vegetables like cucumbers, onions, potatoes, carrots and turnips; dildos, vibrators, tumblers, a polythene waste trap from the U-bend of a sink, salami, sponge rubber balls, a steer’s horn, baseballs, tennis balls, hard-boiled eggs, sand-filled bicycle inner tubing, an aluminum tube (used by a prisoner to store money and other valuables), broomsticks, broom handles, various types of brushes, ax handles, whip handles, soldering irons, a wood-handled carborundum sharpening stone, glass tubes, frozen pig’s tail, and kitchen items such as spatula, ice pick, and mortar pestle. The typical patient that presents in the emergency department with colorectal foreign objects is a male homosexual; the other patients are women or patients who have been rectally assaulted with a foreign body.

Morgenstern mentioned the recovery of a plastic fist and forearm from the colon of a homosexual. Miller mentioned a homosexual patient with a 150-watt light bulb in his colorectum. Homosexuals presenting with light bulbs in their colon challenge even experienced emergency personnel in San Francisco because breakage of the glass could easily perforate the colon or rectum. In one case, physicians had to fix a light bulb socket onto the end of a stick, insert the stick into the rectum, screw the socket onto the bulb, and finally pull out the bulb. Needless to add, removing stuck rectal objects often requires ingenuity. For instance, in one case, physicians managed to remove a stuck water tumbler by putting rope and molten plaster into the tumbler and using the rope to pull out the tumbler after the plaster had hardened.

Schaupp described the case of a homosexual physician who presented with a stuck rectal object. He pleaded with the surgical resident to not admit him in the hospital but extract the object in the emergency department instead. Normally, such cases are observed for at least 24 hours to make sure that the rectal object did not perforate the rectum. The doctor went home with an unrecognized perforation and developed peritonitis (inflammation of the peritoneum). He called the chief of surgery and blamed it all on the resident. Most likely, the physician had perforated his bowel while he was anally masturbating.

Buzzard and Waxman reported the removal of a plastic vibrator from the rectum of a 65-year-old man who had had it in his rectum for 6 months and even traveled around the world with it.

In emergency departments, homosexuals commonly offer bizarre explanations for stuck rectal objects. They explain such objects in terms of accidental ingestion, deliberate insertion to disimpact feces, or accidents where they slipped and fell on the object lodged in their rectum. Some patients don’t admit to prior homosexual activity and for obvious reasons. Graves et al. described a patient with a large peanut butter glass jar lodged in his rectum. The patient claimed that he was washing his dog in the shower when he slipped and fell on a glass jar, which then entered his rectum. They also described another patient who came to the emergency department complaining of rectal and lower abdominal pain and claiming that he had been abducted and sexually assaulted by several men. This patient had a large vibrator lodged in his rectum. A police investigation determined that no assault had taken place, and that the vibrator had most likely been self-administered. Lo et al. described a 50-year-old man who was seen at an emergency department for abdominal pain. A physical examination revealed peritonitis and an X-ray revealed a shadow of an eel in the abdomen. After further questioning, the patient reported that he had inserted a live eel into his rectum to relieve constipation. The 50 cm-long eel had perforated his rectum and was quickly removed.

The objects homosexuals insert into their rectum are only limited by the capacity of their rectum, not their imagination. For instance, Cooper described a 33-year-old homosexual patient with a 14 inch-long sand-filled bicycle tube in his rectum. He and his partners regularly inserted the sand-filled tubes into each other’s rectum, till one day they lost a tube beyond recovery into the patient’s rectum. Stephens and Taff described a homosexual who had his partner give him an enema with a concrete mix, followed by the insertion of a ping-pong ball to retain the mix. The concrete hardened and the homosexual ended up in an emergency department. The patient refused a psychiatric consultation recommended by the physician. Eckert and Katchis mentioned the practice of inserting gerbils into the rectum for pleasurable scratching sensations.

Death resulting from rectal insertion of foreign objects is rare, but occasionally, one comes across such a case. Byard et al. described a 56-year-old man that attempted sexual stimulation via the insertion of a shoehorn in his rectum. He tore his rectum, did not seek medical help, and bled to death.

It is difficult to estimate the incidence of foreign body insertion among homosexuals because they appear in emergency departments only when they require professional help in retrieving stuck rectal objects. Reuben noted that the only people who insert their hands/fingers into the rectum more than homosexuals are doctors, often attempting to retrieve foreign bodies that homosexuals accidentally lost into their rectum while anally masturbating.
This is what homosexuals do. It is sick!!!

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I'm glad we make you angry. Perhaps you'll get angry enough to question the propaganda you've been inundated with, and in particular, begin to wonder why any criticism of homosexuals is increasingly censored.

Do you have any idea about the lengths homos will go to in order to satisfy their depravity? The Homosexinfo website documents their practices in full. Here's an excerpt on Rectal Insertions:

http://www.homosexinfo.org/Sexuality/RectalObjects



This is what homosexuals do. It is sick!!!

this is wrong wrong, most homosexuals satisfy their depravity using their god-given equipment. nothing to see here - move along.
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But you say, homosexuals are born that way. No they're not. This is an acquired problem and it can be treated and reversed.
I used to work the adolescent unit of a Christian based psychiatric facility using the "RAPHA" treatment program. There was a guy that was admitted to the adult unit which I also supervised that was a homosexual and was there to receive treatment.

He had that homosexual demeanor that would tell anyone one of us that he was a homo. Resembled that singer from the band queen when he came in but not with the over bite and all of that.

He was also married with children and wanted to save his marriage as I remember it.

Anyway he was there about 30 days and his transformation was nothing short of a miracle. He left a man and his countenance was completely changed. You would never know anything about his past homosexuality if he didn't tell you himself. I had never seen anything like it which is why I still remember it some 18 years later.
 
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I used to work the adolescent unit of a Christian based psychiatric facility using the "RAPHA" treatment program. There was a guy that was admitted to the adult unit which I also supervised that was a homosexual and was there to receive treatment.

He had that homosexual demeanor that would tell anyone one of us that he was a homo. Resembled that singer from the band queen when he came in but not with the over bite and all of that.

He was also married with children and wanted to save his marriage as I remember it.

Anyway he was there about 30 days and his transformation was nothing short of a miracle. He left a man and his countenance was completely changed. You would never know anything about his past homosexuality if he didn't tell you himself. I had never seen anything like it which is why I still remember it some 18 years later.

yeah, he's pbly fucking his wife in the ass right now, with a struggling half-dead hamster half-inserted in his buttcrack for good measure.
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Anyway he was there about 30 days and his transformation was nothing short of a miracle. He left a man and his countenance was completely changed. You would never know anything about his past homosexuality if he didn't tell you himself. I had never seen anything like it which is why I still remember it some 18 years later.
This is strong evidence that it can be reversed. Even if homosexuals are wired bass-ackwards at birth, as some suggest, there is no reason why it cannot be overcome. But what it requires, first and foremost, is commitment from the individual. The individual must want to change.

In contrast, it's obvious that George Witzgall doesn't want to change. We've let him have the run of the forum because he has represented himself as both pro-White and pro-gay. However, his simian responses to our posts show that there is no such thing as being both pro-White and pro-gay. His obsession with sodomy overrides his professed concern for our race. With most gays, sex isn't merely the dessert,; it's the whole meal. The lives of most gays revolve around cruising for sex.
 
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According to the Bible, God likes nuking fags. He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because those cities were loaded with unrepentant buttfuckers.

Today, God gives homos ass cancer via the AIDS virus and makes them listen to lame Barry Manilow CDs.

I must be real tough being hated by God.

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I used to work the adolescent unit of a Christian based psychiatric facility using the "RAPHA" treatment program. There was a guy that was admitted to the adult unit which I also supervised that was a homosexual and was there to receive treatment.

He had that homosexual demeanor that would tell anyone one of us that he was a homo. Resembled that singer from the band queen when he came in but not with the over bite and all of that.

He was also married with children and wanted to save his marriage as I remember it.

Anyway he was there about 30 days and his transformation was nothing short of a miracle. He left a man and his countenance was completely changed. You would never know anything about his past homosexuality if he didn't tell you himself. I had never seen anything like it which is why I still remember it some 18 years later.
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This is strong evidence that it can be reversed. Even if homosexuals are wired bass-ackwards at birth, as some suggest, there is no reason why it cannot be overcome. But what it requires, first and foremost, is commitment from the individual. The individual must want to change.

In contrast, it's obvious that George Witzgall doesn't want to change. We've let him have the run of the forum because he has represented himself as both pro-White and pro-gay. However, his simian responses to our posts show that there is no such thing as being both pro-White and pro-gay. His obsession with sodomy overrides his professed concern for our race. With most gays, sex isn't merely the dessert,; it's the whole meal. The lives of most gays revolve around cruising for sex.
Don't know that I could ever be comfortable around an "ex" fag.I don't care how well the cure took.
 
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When people argue with you about faggots. Just draw the connection to child molesters. Kwans are stupidly evil, and will still side with dirty asshole sucking faggots and child molestors. There is only one cure for many Kwans at this stage in the game.
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[Igor Alexander]

(Wasn't sure where to post this. If there's a better place, maybe one of the mods can let me know.)

Here's a bit of text I quickly wrote up (actually, mostly cut and pasted) the other day in response to someone on a forum going on about the "malicious stereotype" of fag child molesters. Feel free to use it as a template for a response the next time you come across queers or their supporters disseminating propaganda like "most child molesters are heterosexual" or "I would trust a gay man to look after my kids more than I would a straight man."

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On the question of homosexuality and child molestation, a 1988 study (Erickson, Walbek, and Seely) found that 86% of child molesters identified themselves as homosexual or bisexual, and a 1992 study (Freund and Watson) found that homosexual males were three times more likely than straight men to engage in adult-child sexual relations. Psychologist Eugene Abel found that homosexuals sexually molest young boys with an incidence that is occurring from five times greater than the molestation of girls.

If heterosexuals make up the preponderance of child molesters in raw numbers, it's not surprising, since heterosexuals make up more than 97% of the population. When you compensate for that, you find that homosexuals molest children at a rate vastly higher than heterosexuals. Homosexuals also abuse with far greater frequency. In his research, Eugene Abel found that 150.2 boys were abused per male homosexual offender compared to heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls.

David Thorstad, a founding member of NAMBLA and former president of New York's Gay Activists Alliance, says homosexual activists have supressed pedophilia in order "to sanitize the image of homosexuality to facilitate its entrance into the social mainstream."

It's interesting to note that one of the UK's first homosexual couples to become foster parents, Craig Faunch and Ian Wathey, were recently convicted and sentenced to several years in prison for having molested the children in their care.

Hate to break it to you, but there's a lot more to the homosexual "lifestyle" than the candy-coated crap you're shown on TV.
P.S. Let me know what kind of responses you get. If people post counterarguments, let me know what they are so the template can be improved.
 
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[Igor Alexander]

(Wasn't sure where to post this. If there's a better place, maybe one of the mods can let me know.)

Here's a bit of text I quickly wrote up (actually, mostly cut and pasted) the other day in response to someone on a forum going on about the "malicious stereotype" of fag child molesters. Feel free to use it as a template for a response the next time you come across queers or their supporters disseminating propaganda like "most child molesters are heterosexual" or "I would trust a gay man to look after my kids more than I would a straight man."



P.S. Let me know what kind of responses you get. If people post counterarguments, let me know what they are so the template can be improved.
Thanks, Alex. Just posted a bulletin on myspace and started a thread at goldismoney.
 
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According to the Bible, God likes nuking fags. He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because those cities were loaded with unrepentant buttfuckers.

Today, God gives homos ass cancer via the AIDS virus and makes them listen to lame Barry Manilow CDs.

I must be real tough being hated by God.

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If homosexuals & bisexuals want to kill themselves off then let them. The sad thing is that aids and many std's are contracted through sodomy(butt humpin) and many heterosexuals practice this and then spread it to heterosexual non-sodomites.
 
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According to the Bible, God likes nuking fags. He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because those cities were loaded with unrepentant buttfuckers.

Today, God gives homos ass cancer via the AIDS virus and makes them listen to lame Barry Manilow CDs.

I must be real tough being hated by God.

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agreed! he hates fags and obviously hates niggers as well.long may this hatred continue.
 
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All this is beside the point.

If you're going to use a consequentialist approach to argue the claim that homosexuality is immoral (and I don't recommend it since I've never come across one that works on this issue), you need to demonstrate why certain sexual orientations necessitate harm.

In fact, this is impossible. Few sexual orientations (with the possible exception of paedophilia) necessitate harm.

They may be associated with harm, or increase the likelihood of harm on the population level, but that's not enough for the strong claim that a sexual orientation is immoral.
 
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agreed! he hates fags and obviously hates niggers as well.long may this hatred continue.
god hates what he created...lol.......lol.........
 
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Great info, Alex, thanks.

One thing about the Catholic Church is their use of this kind of reasoning copied from the article: "The only way to solve the problem of priestly child molestation is to proceed methodically."

Actually the only way to solve the problem of priestly child molestation is to tie the evil priests to a stake surrounded with cord wood, soak the base of the wood pile with kerosene and set it all on fire.

Unless the Catholic Church starts burning pedophile priests at the stake, then it can't really claim to be any more than a bare remnant of the original Catholic Church. Burning evil priests at the stake solves all of these problems and warns the weak priests against yielding to sin.

And this technique that is used by the faggot lobby is well represented in this article, quote: "The powerful homosexual lobby reacts instinctively to negative publicity and information by, as researcher Laird Wilcox calls it, "ritually defaming" those who dare raise their voices. Organized homosexual groups first attempt to completely ignore the evidence, or, if it simply cannot be ignored, they smear and discredit those who produced it."

You see it all of the time but it's good to see that the Commie-Jew-Queer bastards have a name for the technique, "ritual defaming". The solution to this method is merely to beat the hell out of any mouthy queers who start yelling their BS in your face. Faggotry has to be brought to annihilation. It's time to close their eyes along with those of the queer psychologists who claim they are normal.
 
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