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Old August 20th, 2008 #1
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Default SS bolts tattoos mark you for death - urban myth?

I was recently watching a program about the history of tattoos(they date back to early European man shortly after the ice age, btw.) A segment of the program focused on prison tats, and I took notice particularly because they were filming in Maricopa County Jail for this segment.

Anyway, they had a supposed prison tattoo expert on and this guy was trying to explain all the tattoos that skinheads and Nazis get. When he came to the SS bolts though, he said something that made me take notice.
Basically, this guy said that you had to *earn* your SS bolts by doing "something particularly horrendous." What's more, if you showed up in lockup with SS bolts tattooed on you and the skinheads there found out you didn't do that certain something, they are given the ok by their higher-ups to take you out or remove the tattoo.

Now, I've never heard of this before in my life. Anybody could get SS bolts tattooed on them if they wanted, hell Sonny Barger of the Hell's Angels has a pair, and he's not a skin or a Nazi. It strikes me as the old BS about skins having to earn their red laces. Plus, Maricopa County Jail isn't exactly federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison, you go there if you're doing a stretch of less than one year. I'd wager a good percentage of the inmates are just folks doing time for a DUI.

So, has anyone heard of this guy's theory about SS bolts tattoos being credible? I've already got SS bolts tattooed on me and I'd hate to have to get into a fight with another white man over whether or not I "earned" them should I end up in County Jail.
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Old August 20th, 2008 #2
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Sounds like BS to me.

No problems here.


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Old August 20th, 2008 #3
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Sounds like BS to me.

No problems here.


That's a nice tattoo!

You have some boney ass arms though. No offense.
 
Old August 20th, 2008 #4
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SS bolts tattooed on them if they wanted, hell Sonny Barger of the Hell's Angels has a pair, and he's not a skin or a Nazi.
Barger is a HA "Filthy Few" I would assume his are 'genuine'.
 
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Barger is a HA "Filthy Few" I would assume his are 'genuine'.
True. But he's never been associated with the Nazis or skins. The HA guys just got them back in the day to piss people off.
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Old August 21st, 2008 #6
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I also heard that to have that spiderweb thingy on your elbow it meant you had killed someone. But I have seen some pretty wimp ass guys with that tat so I dont think it means that anymore.
 
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I also heard that to have that spiderweb thingy on your elbow it meant you had killed someone. But I have seen some pretty wimp ass guys with that tat so I dont think it means that anymore.
I think the spiderweb thing represents time spent in prison. The small tear drop below the eye signifies that you have killed someone..
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I've never known anybody to get hassled in the joint for having SS bolts, except by non-Whites, but one tat that will get you into trouble is a shamrock. That's "owned" by Aryan Brotherhood, and unless you're one of them, you will either cover it or they will remove it.
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That's a nice tattoo!

You have some bony ass arms though. No offense.
Yeah, That pic makes my arm look like a tooth pick. lol

It was taken when just right after getting done. The elbow swelled up like the size of two softballs. I'm not fat that is for sure, like most truck divers.
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I've never known anybody to get hassled in the joint for having SS bolts, except by non-Whites, but one tat that will get you into trouble is a shamrock. That's "owned" by Aryan Brotherhood, and unless you're one of them, you will either cover it or they will remove it.
Oh that explains a lot. So then maybe Elisha Strom is "owned" by someone in the Aryan Brotherhood??? She has a huge bright green shamrock on her left arm, it covers here entire upper arm!!!
 
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Oh that explains a lot. So then maybe Elisha Strom is "owned" by someone in the Aryan Brotherhood??? She has a huge bright green shamrock on her left arm, it covers here entire upper arm!!!
AB will give you a dot on your ring finger. That means you are a part. If you go in with this..

They will know you right away.
 
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True. But he's never been associated with the Nazis or skins. The HA guys just got them back in the day to piss people off.
The "SS Filthy Few" patch is/was earned.

They did away with it in the mid 90's in deference to their German Brothers not being able to adorn it.

The "SS" tattoo inside one's left arm is earned through violence. It's placement is in respect to the Shultzstaffel blood type indication tattoo inside the left arm.
 
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AB will give you a dot on your ring finger. That means you are a part. If you go in with this..

They will know you right away.

The Fella's sure do things differently outside of California..lol

Whatever you're trying to show, doesn't mean shit in Ca.
 
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I saw a documentary about the AB that showed Tyler Bingham with a 'Star Of David' tattoo on his shoulder. It said that he is part Jew.
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Wow, there's a lot of false assumptions being tossed around in this thread, haha...
 
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I was recently watching a program about the history of tattoos(they date back to early European man shortly after the ice age, btw.)
Western civilization and tattoos do not go together.
 
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The Fella's sure do things differently outside of California..lol

Whatever you're trying to show, doesn't mean shit in Ca.
I think FFF is correct. The meaning of the ink is subjective, and changes from prison to prison and gang to gang.

Charlie brought up the fact that AB leader T.D. Bingham is a mischlinge, and that's correct; he has a Star of David inked on one arm and a Hakenkreuz on the other. From what I understand, the AB is a criminal organisation, devoted to criminal activities, and their "ideology" is simply used as a force of social cohesion in the racially charged enviornment of prison.

The History channel aired a documentary on the AB, and one disgruntled former member, who is now on a hit list, stated that he was talking to the media in order to "warn young National Socialists and other Aryans" to stay away from the AB. The fellow was wearing a Thor's Hammer and covered in racialist ink. I believe his name was Casper Crowley.

Thankfully, I have never been sent to prison, so I cannot comment with any certainty on prison politics; however, I've met a good cross-section of skinheads, and the consensus on this stuff varies from crew to crew. Some believe the web tattoo must be "earned," and they may pick fights with those they believe haven't done so, while others lend no credence whatsoever to that notion. The same is true with the colour of laces.
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Being "in the know" for much of what is being discussed, I'll give an equation:

This whole thread is like a puzzle, all the pieces are there and viable, they just need to be put into their proper perspectives (place) to complete the puzzle and see the pretty picture that mysteriously transformed.
 
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I think FFF is correct. The meaning of the ink is subjective, and changes from prison to prison and gang to gang.

Charlie brought up the fact that AB leader T.D. Bingham is a mischlinge, and that's correct; he has a Star of David inked on one arm and a Hakenkreuz on the other. From what I understand, the AB is a criminal organisation, devoted to criminal activities, and their "ideology" is simply used as a force of social cohesion in the racially charged enviornment of prison.

The History channel aired a documentary on the AB, and one disgruntled former member, who is now on a hit list, stated that he was talking to the media in order to "warn young National Socialists and other Aryans" to stay away from the AB. The fellow was wearing a Thor's Hammer and covered in racialist ink. I believe his name was Casper Crowley.

Thankfully, I have never been sent to prison, so I cannot comment with any certainty on prison politics; however, I've met a good cross-section of skinheads, and the consensus on this stuff varies from crew to crew. Some believe the web tattoo must be "earned," and they may pick fights with those they believe haven't done so, while others lend no credence whatsoever to that notion. The same is true with the colour of laces.
No, his name's Casper Crowell, and I know him and his family via the Odinist community. He was in AB for a long while but decided they no longer represented racialism as their activities moved toward drug trafficking. He got out. He had mentioned the shamrock tattoo prohibition among AB on the tape (which has to do with prison rules, not racialist orgs, in case anyone misunderstood), and confirmed that in a forwarded email. If anyone thinks that's wrong, you're of course free to take it up with him.
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No, his name's Casper Crowell, and I know him and his family via the Odinist community. He was in AB for a long while but decided they no longer represented racialism as their activities moved toward drug trafficking. He got out..
Crowell, that's right, thanks. My guess was close.

If his assessment of the AB is correct, he did the honourable thing.
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